Brilliant, so the dealers who generally seem unable to diagnose, are the only ones with the security access to fix the issues!

Unbelievable, only access for the brand garages. That's sickening. What else are they going to invent to squeeze the citizen out?

Lorry parking in your workshop 😂😂

Wow! This is war! Great info Jimmy.

@ORileysAutos

6 ай бұрын

It sure is

I thought with block exemption regulations it was unlawful for manufacturers and dealerships to dictate who can carry out your repairs?

Our job is getting crazier every day , i had a 21 plate boxer van in today , that asked for security access in my Autel after doing a dpf clean , so i took it for a ride n filled the streets with smoke 😂😂, then cleared the codes, it wouldnt let me into resetting dpf settings , so much crap out there now Jimmy , Late Boxer van engines are garbage, these i do have over 160k on then , 21 plate , courier vans and fridge vans delivering nhs prescription products nationwide , regularly serviced , but still Poo, 3 have had complete new engines in , 2 under warranty , 1 of the road for 14 months in the dealers while being passed from pillar to post , warranty , then not warranty, then warranty, after suppying service receipts showing Peugeot part numbers🥊🎈

That is against EU law, ie you are entitled to bring your car to any garage for repair or maintenance. Dealers cannot “lock” access to the car’s EMU. But as the UK is now outside the EU, I guess that rule no longer applies to your country.

@davidnorton5887

6 ай бұрын

Independents can probably pay to access the Kia system, just as they can for Mercedes and BMW. The problem is the cost, especially for one garages that don't often work on them. While the law says independents must be allowed access, the manufacturers are allowed to charge.

@davidmehlhorn726

6 ай бұрын

@@davidnorton5887 No they aren’t, at least in the EU. “Free movement of goods and services” precludes practices like manufacturers forcing people to only deal with them. I’ve my own obd scanner and I can use it to diagnose and fix issues on my car, without going to a dealership. Looks like the UK dealers are enjoying not having to comply with EU law. And the benefits of Brexit are again??????????

Jimmy would it do any damage to put a tin of dpf cleaner in my c class when im servicing it just to help it to keep cleaner

Very interesting...

My Peugeot 405’s with XUD engines and no exhaust filtration at all just jumped in price.

Are these the ones that suffer the catastrophic tensioner failures?

Jimmy I have the same car, and now have this issue (P20C900) are you familar with this?

Slowly pushing owners out of control of their own cars. Locking access to DPF features is borderline criminal. Maybe they are experiencing drops in the gold mine of DPF sales...

Jimmy, do you think the aftermarket will get past the lockouts?

@ORileysAutos

6 ай бұрын

Fiat now charge me to access vehicles. I have had to make an account with them and login via the Launch Tab 3

@hadiamrane

6 ай бұрын

@@ORileysAutos Is that even legal? The reason why the OBD system was implemented is so that any body would know what is going on, but now they are charging for it? Guess the "you will own nothing and be happy" is getting more and more reality. What about Autel, maybe you can acces it with that?

Pleased I recently purchase a 2008 diesel that does not have a dpf. They are nothing but an expensive problem.

Is it not illegal to lock the ecu like that, I thought they had to give access to aftermarket and independents?

@davidnorton5887

6 ай бұрын

Aftermarket can have access, but they have to pay.

Its a joke ive got a kia sportage 2 litre diesel on a 16 plate as that got same issue Jimmy do you know

These modern Diesel cars, they go into limp mode when your screen washer fluid is low also. A dirty windsceen is a danger while driving

Surely dealerships are out of order doing that without the owners knowledge? There is such a thing as a right to repair. Could you not have called the dealer and requested the pin?

@ORileysAutos

6 ай бұрын

They would not give it. Fiat group will let you in if you pay a subscription fee

Jimmy, Is this the ‘secure gateway’ that they called?

@ORileysAutos

6 ай бұрын

Yes

@Diederik240

6 ай бұрын

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@Diederik240

6 ай бұрын

Sinds 5 oktober heeft het Hof van Justitie van de Europese Unie besloten dat het niet wettelijk is toegestaan voor voertuigfabrikanten om de toegang tot diagnose te beperken met systemen zoals de SGW. Fabrikanten die dergelijke beperkingen hebben geïmplementeerd moeten hiermee stoppen en op de reeds bestaande voertuigen een terugroepactie doen.

@Diederik240

6 ай бұрын

We received this message from our diagnostic tool supplier..

If we all stopped buying cars with the security access applied then they would stop adding it

@samsonacc8081

6 ай бұрын

And you think folks know or care about that? 😂

@isaacplaysbass8568

6 ай бұрын

@@samsonacc8081They wont know and wont care until it becomes a problem and they have to go to the dealership repeatedly for a fault that they can't resolve.

Why isn’t this being done under warranty?

@ORileysAutos

5 ай бұрын

Taxis aren't covered under warranty. Also as far as I'm aware DPF isn't covered under warranty either

I thought those had a VW engine not that that would help any ,ridiculous how they can put a security lock on diagnostics but cant fix it themselves👍

No warranty as its a taxi & thats why the dealer wont touch it, a new dpf for car to keep its taxi plate

@samsonacc8081

6 ай бұрын

He has a right to taxi with it if that is what he wants, what was the mileage on it, 60 something ?

@Jon-pm8ie

6 ай бұрын

I thought Kia's had a 7 year or 100k mile warranty. I have never had any issues with Ford honouring their warranty on my taxis.

That's the reason I still don't own an IPhone locking the system even though I'm the owner now car manufacturers want to go down that route... Then they can be the owner of their own cars -At the risk of sounding like Scotty Kilmer - Do Not Buy

security access denied and most of the main dealerships can't even diagnose the problems correctly never mind repair them .

wtf!!! thats piss poor for KIA to do that ...

Wow,,,3k for a dpf ....buy a decent car for that....and locked out as a slap in the face Take it back to the dealer and drive it through their front window....ying tong rubbish

I've gone right off Kias after watching this.

Buy a nice reliable old car now before they have noose round our necks and hands in our pockets

Security access! What the hell. Tell all your friends to avoid kia at all costs!