If it was a tactical shooter we wouldn't be fighting bullet sponges and I still wonder why an enemy control point is right across the street from a settlement.

@Thund3rstone

2 ай бұрын

MarcoStyle made a detailed video about the tactical shooter thing (The Division - The game we never got) and how The Divsion did NOT became a tactical shooter and why this was the beginning of the end for many supporters.

@FrostyMountain-wo3kl

2 ай бұрын

Yes, that video said what I couldn’t put into words about the game.

These S.A.S. stories are gold 😂 need more of them. Can't believe that Nairobi isn't a film.

Dod tells spec ops stories from around the world would be a great series.

"Sheriff" is a higher rank and capacity than all of them :) Edit: Or maybe our agent is Chuck Norris.

Called the Season Vanguard...hmmm. Had to see that coming. The real tragedy is that cold coffee, outrageous. It's entirely possible that our agents background is retail and public school survivor we should be kept in a cage inside a volcano for the sake of humanity.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

We are second wave, which lore wise, the vast majority have civil service occupations: Government engineer, Police, Nurse. Doctor ect.

@ChancySanah

2 ай бұрын

​@@DodRegnbue, yeah the second wave was probably intended for reconstruction of society, but probably also contained a lot of former military as well.

@devintariel3769

2 ай бұрын

​@@DodRegnbuedo you know if we're from Brooklyn in our division 1 incarnation? The intro makes it seem like we just walked out of our house.

Good rant! So true.

Perhaps we're in the matrix. It seems like everything could be a training simulation, considering how much they talk about simulations.

@KarlDelaney99

2 ай бұрын

Target manhunt: Andrew Tate

@xaptor8685

2 ай бұрын

@@KarlDelaney99 I don’t mind if that’s the case, guy just ruined a generation of people. I’ll just foam and fire sticky him for a change.

@thanhhungvo2649

2 ай бұрын

@@KarlDelaney99he sports a weaponized Bugatti

To be fair while our agents don’t have a set backstory so can kind of make it up it makes sense that we aren’t a nobody. We are for sure former tier 1 like delta or devgru for sure. I’m pretty sure it’s canon that are in fact one of if not the most dangerous agent recruited by the division. It’s the only way to explain why we succeed where others fail. Also I’m pretty sure all division agents receive combat training when they are recruited. But not everyone is at the same level which is why so many from the first wave died.

I ranted about this already on reddit, needed to vent. Here the short version: It is lazy and cheap writing on the level of a soap opera. Which was in seasons not that important as long this game was on life support. For a game supposedly to be revived and wanting to sell a DLC, I expect better story telling.

If Tom Clancy were alive, he would have fired the writers of this game.

What a lovely rant!

We are like bee keeper in the movie the beekeeper lol

I didn't know keener was coming back because I got WONY expansion in the beginning or middle of I think season 6 (whichever season was the repeat of faye lau manhunt). I didn't care about the story (even though I watched story recaps/what's currently go on videos) until this final because it essentially means it's picking up from the end of the WONY story.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

The huge hints was keeners "Code Name" was Vanguard. . . This season was also called Vanguard.

@alphaelite1861

2 ай бұрын

@@DodRegnbue I heard that what it was but I just didn't really care about the lore. I watched those recap/current event videos because I wanted to see if anything related to the WONY story end comes up. So I can pay attention from that put on to the story.

we are a super soldier

ONE SAS dude did that! Geezzz legend

All of these various specialists are but puny flies before the awesome might of my revive hive. Whaever is left after that will surely flee in terror the moment i equip a ninja bike messengers bag. Those are just the facts.

the only point that makes sense is that fairview power plant is still running unchecked cause the entire plot from s1 - now has been like 2 weeks ingame even then it doesnt make sense since seemingly no cares about the advantage of having a nuclear power plant of power at your disposal especially since in countdown when you get true sons kelso says "whoever controls the power controls the region"

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

It is not so much about when Pentco was introduced but more since the team that looked after the powerplat inevitably died from Green Poison.

Kelso would be like Lex Luther.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, but most likely win.

he was called "OBI WAN NAIROBI"

British SAS, tough as nails. Have you seen the movie Bravo Two Zero, I read the story, then watched the movie, didn't get hung up on visual but what they had to go trough, amazing! Another, Iranian embassy 1980, crazy stuff, tough as nails.

I understand what you’re saying, and I don’t disagree, but from what I remember, Viper’s role in the S.A.S. was “only” logistical, she wasn’t really an operative But, to contrast my own point, we learned this season that Viper was supposedly a hunter. I remember taking her down all the way back, the waves of ads keeping her safe posed a much bigger threat than she did, and that’s exactly NOT what a hunter is

I thank god that I have an imagination and ignore most of what happens around me in this game.

Division 3 -Kelso. we play as Kelso to have a chance against all the greater threats.

@devintariel3769

2 ай бұрын

Ever played watch dogs

@soyasaucer

2 ай бұрын

@@devintariel3769 I have not.

@devintariel3769

2 ай бұрын

@@soyasaucer so the single player gets integrated with multiplayer so you don't lose the RPG feeling. You always look like a random hacker to other players, but you are always the main character from your perspective. Watch dogs 2 had seamless open world coop and they all have hacking invasions too. But seamless open world is what I want for division. So my idea would be any enemy agents "invading" your session would be dressed as rouges but from you're perspective and the other players perspective they could still be non rogue. Play into the whole ISAC lying to you thing for the sequel.

"...look how innovative we are...we give you warlords NY to hunt and kill keener..." 3 years later "...hey...we give you a Dlc in Brooklyn...OK. way smaller than warloards but hey....your mission is to hunt and kill keener again..." Hilarious 😂 Best regards from Germany 🇩🇪

Our player use to work in apple bee's

Also, Viper is a Hunter

I don't even get Keener coming back tbh. We literally watched the guy flatline at the end of the new york dlc. He was dead. You don't magically come back from being dead. Theo too. I shot him in the head multiple times. He's dead. Tbh I have not been paying very much (if any) attention to the story since then. I only started paying attention when Kelso stupidly touched the magic box and got herself kidnapped. I then started paying even more attention when my dumbarse character went and touched the same magic box at the end of the manhunt after seeing what it did to Kelso a few weeks earlier. If stuff happened that would explain zombie Keener in the seasons between then and now, I would love someone to fill me in because I frankly didn't care enough to watch the cut scenes or listen to the audio logs between then and now. If nothing else I might get a good laugh out of it.

Honestly it all felt like something they're trying to drum up some hype for the upcoming dlc/expansion. The writing has been "meh" through div 2 with a few golden nuggets here and there, but... the 2nd half of the descent comms and the story since natashya has been worse... that's including utter disappointment being faye lau where the second to last comm was actually honestly good (but ofc in game of thrones spirit "they kinda forgot about it". But then it took them a freaking year to give us a "meh" end movie, a non-existant debfrief. This year has been bordered on season 8 game of thrones bad. New story, badly written, no conclusion, hype next story tidbit, repeat. It is clear that the writers are as incompetent as the people designing the new gear & talents.

They might be smart, but we have Strikers.

I started thinking that DoD was trolling. Then I realized he was right. Damn.

I suppose I'm just a god.

I've based so many of my builds off of the refreshingly accurate data you provide through your Division content and appreciate and respect that very much. I know the time, effort and diligence required to be accurate so hats off to you good sir. That being said, I gave this game the "old college try" I really did. It was fun for a little while but then I discovered Ghost Recon Breakpoint a REAL 3rd person tactical shooter with a stealth element and an actual melee system unlike The Division 2's nudges and slaps. As for the lore? Well let's just say they should remove Tom Clancy's name off the title. I was also told that Division is a power fantasy game. Power? If I had so much power. howcome I died so many times because I couldn't step over a twig or a frikkin' grocery bag or had to empty 3 whole clips into a shield which was clearly a trash can lid. Don't even get me started with the horrendous drop chances for gear with stats that you want (countdown is a joke). I realize RNG exists but this game has horrible percentages also I play Warframe which IS AN ACTUAL power fantasy game with fluid combat movement and an amazing parkour system. So I woke up and stopped playing this game entirely. It was a waste of time. Safe to say, I do not recommend playing this. Full stop.

You do know when your selected for the division your given the upmost training and your hole job is to blend in with society and train until you are called so in actually if our character was maintaining their training then it’s possible to beat these people because you have most of the training they have

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

Sleeper agent vs Premier Tier 1 Career special Forces From across the globe? Some things are only learned in combat. Career SAS soldier vs Division Agent that only kept up with training . . . . .Come on. A pilot with 200 hours real flight time is going to be better than a pilot with 1000 hours simmulated. . .

@ironlordoni8465

2 ай бұрын

Yes I agree there is a difference between people with field experience and not agreed but how many of them train 24/7 the answer is none sure they may work out in between rotations but they only train ever so often and we know division agents train in sims that mimic real word scenarios like decent given a realistic enough sim the mind cannot tell the difference that’s why when you see a roller coaster go over the hill in a video your stomach drops as well and once again division agents train twenty four seven so does it put them on the same level I would say it gets them close and given the right conditions can be beneficial

New to the channel but I see a common misinterpretation of what a “Rogue” agent is that a lot of people and KZreadrs are making. Rogue doesn’t automatically equate to evil or bad. It just means “off mission” according to ISAC’s programming and we know how flawed that is. There is a lot more nuance and it’s not that black and white. That’s what the story is trying to get it. NGN lore channel picked up on this pretty well.

This game has a lore?

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Yellow Box = Shoot it. Yelloy Wall, Tarp, Ledge = Climb it.

Doesn't Johnson say we are Elite 😂

i almost Rage Quit the entirety of the whole game. i said like "WHY THE HELL IS HE ALIVE?" ok kelso going rogue is BS at it's worst. but Keener? HOW the hell did he survive our own assault on liberty island?

@slavmagician2898

2 ай бұрын

Our characters literally stood there for a while waiting for extract, he would have bled out, and why didn’t we take his body to examine any other tech he could have had?

@EqualizerC

2 ай бұрын

@@slavmagician2898 well in this case he pulled out Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising Revengence. Nanomachines son!

If you take into account that the enemies in this game can kill you far faster than you can kill them then how in the world do we really take out a SAS person???? They would’ve just pushed us and instakiller us

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

Would not have even seen them coming.

@wyattmaniscalco3090

2 ай бұрын

@@DodRegnbuefor real. I wonder why no factions have sent teams of hitmen to try and ambush us in the open world 😂

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

@@wyattmaniscalco3090 I belive that is meant to be the "hunters" role in the long run, but to be honest, they are clowns.

@wyattmaniscalco3090

2 ай бұрын

@@DodRegnbue tbh we hunt the hunters more than they hunt us 🤷🏻‍♂️

@thanhhungvo2649

2 ай бұрын

duh use scorpio cheese

If anything. It's a looter shooter that takes a fuck ton of inspiration from dungeon crawler and Diablo 3 systems.

vanilla us wouldn't have been able to beat all of them, but us with 10k shd levels and 20 expertise sure could.

SAS solo legendary lol

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

You mean Normal . . .

Wasn’t the game called a open world looter shooter until recently when they labeled the game as a tactical shooter?? Or am I wrong, all these years of the game clearly not being a tactical shooter made then title it that🤣🤣

And dont let this all distract us from the fact that there is still no rifle set and the new exotic shotgun is arguably the most useless item in the game. LOL

At this point, if I can get my man AK back, I don't care. Plus the ending of WONY wasn't satisfying in the first place imo.

Maybe you were able to do all this because of the Ai. This is the thing that you excluded.

first!!! 🎉🎉

I feel your pain but your overthinking a "video game" with bullet sponges.

Not sure what the complaint is. Nobody knows what your character’s background is in either Division 1 or 2. It could be whatever you want it to be. You could be a fucking Navy Seal for all we know. And no, this game is far from a tactical Shooter. We haven’t seen a real tactical shooter since the original Rainbow Six.

@ianmcdonald3053

Ай бұрын

I miss the days of the original rainbow six games, back on my celeron 800mhz with a voodoo card lol

Division is not tactical shooter, it is an RPG. That is because tactical shooters don't mix well with looter-shooters. And the game Has to be looter shooter to be the addictive thing that it is. Also, the writing is soap opera. Do NOT apply logic to it.

Division 2 is a Rom Com now, just shame 🛎️

I agree that this is awful badly written and I don't care for the story anymore. The lore for me is dead. As for our agent, it's a blank slate. You can think they are a nobody incapable of fighting anyone or one of the best that have ever existed

You're giving Kelso too much credit. The difference between completing Ranger School and being a actual Ranger are miles apart. Not to mention the standards for women going through Ranger School have been questioned by Congress to see how far standards were lowered for women, and they refused to show just how much they lowered them, saying "We don't report to you (congress) we report to the President" (because the success rate of women that completed Ranger School was astronomically high compared to their male counterparts) Plus, generally Para Military operators for the CIA are recruited former Special Forces Officers. Kelso couldn't have been a Ranger (other than wishful thinking by DEI based writers) to be recruited as a Operator because there has only been 1 female actual Ranger, and last I knew she was assigned to a garrison position. So at best Kelso would be a Analyst with the Operator title. Still highly involved, but not near the badass you're making her out to be. Also you may be confusing Rangers with Green Berets. Green Berets (and what they are capable of doing, regularly) is how you keep referring to Kelsos potential lethality. Rangers are a elite unit, but they're quite a few steps down from Green Berets. Green Berets are the ones called on, to go in and destabilize countries (when/if needed) not Rangers.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

I am aware there is a differance, training for and being are indeed two entirely seperate things, and Ranger school only teaches the bare minum and is mostly comprised of physical fitness tests as well as working underpressure and with some hectic sleep deprivation. And although you are correc that many governemts have looked at the requirments for women. No unit, USA, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Singapore, non of the Tier 1 Special Forces have drop the requirements for gender. So that completion rate for women you have there is complete bogus. You can literally google it. They have a break down of the course and rates online. www.moore.army.mil/infantry/artb/Student-Information/content/PDF/ARTB%20Ranger%20Course%20Information.pdf No, generally Para Military Officers are not recruited from Special Forces. In fact you will actually find that most special forces, especially in the US, hate working with their respective "inteligence" agencies and this is also why many countries develope their own Special Force Intelligence. Also, I never said she was a Ranger, I actually explicitely said I doubt she was as I believe women cannot be, but this does not stop them from doing the Ranger School. Though again, after reading up on this after the fact, there has been two Female US Rangers. Though this does not mean that they must work within the rangers. Many do these courses as a show of faith,/good will to their respective units and simply do the course, then return to their original unit (RTU). As you previously stated, completing Ranger School and being a Ranger are two very different things. Actually no, I worked and trained with Rangers as well as Delta for a period of 18 months. I know full well what they are capable of. Though to suggest that they are a step down from any other Tier 1 SF unit is a bit of an insult. This is not how US SF works. Each has their own tips, tricks and skills. Infact, if we REALLY want to dig into this, Green Berrets are not even listed as an SMU (Special Missions Unit). 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta or Commonly known as Delta Force. Naval Special Warfare Development Group - Or Navy SEAL, most notably SEAL Team SIX. 24th Special Tactics Squadron - Or JSOC (these are the guys that rescue SF units.) Intelligence Support Activity - Originalyl classified under INSCOM and these are one of those Military Intelligence Agencies I mentioned earlier. So, you know, SF do not have to deal with CIA. And finally Army Ranger's Regimental Reconnaissance Company - Or US Rangers. Go ahead, ask me how I know this . . . .

@daansw3r935

2 ай бұрын

@@DodRegnbueAs far as the 2nd so called female Ranger goes, anyone who's served can see the bs from miles away. A 38yr old mother of 2??? Bwahahaha, nice try. Anyone can see that's pure bs. Yes, although I was probably at my strongest when I was in my late 30s/early 40s (outlifting college athletes half my age, and more energy than my own Jr high and HS children athletes) there's still a big difference of strength and fitness levels (especially military needs) And yes I know, as a former DI I don't fall into the standard military personel fitness/ability pool. But there's no way I was able to do what would've been necessary, at a SF level, at that time. So NO, I obviously don't think she met the requirements to earn her SF Tab. Pure political PR stunt. As far as former SF recruited to CIA goes, I recommend checking out a guy named Shawn Ryan (former SF Oper and CIA Oper) who will have former operators (from both, and who were both) on his show constantly. He talks about his transition to working for the CIA. Time as a Oper in both, etc.. As far as Green Berets go, I'm thinking theirvSF classification falls under Rangers. I have a couple friends who are former Rangers and they've referred to the Green Berets as the Next Step. It might also come down to a similar situation we had as Marines (yes I'm a former Marine) with SOCOM and MARSOC (Recon and Raiders) classifications because of how SF is funded, and our funding originally came indirectly out the Marine Corps budget, until we split into SOCOM as well.

Using non-fiction logic in a fictional world created by devs and writers with limited knowledge of the subject 🤔🤔🤔 Easy to rant about for hours on end Yep never works out

I don't know why folks are being so precious about the realism. We're running around with several hundred pounds of ammunition on our backs all the time and we can get our health back after crouching in over for a few seconds.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

Because teh Devs called it a Tactical Shooter. In order to be a Tactical Shooter it needs to be grounded in reality.

@ratherbedealingarms

2 ай бұрын

Bruh, that is just marketing speak for “military themed.” Div1 and 2 looked nothing like the 2013 Div1 trailer.

@DodRegnbue

2 ай бұрын

@@ratherbedealingarms No Tactical Shoot vs RPG, Open Worl Looter Shoot is not "Marketing Speak" for military themed. As, to over simpilifiy, Div 2 is no where near military themed. These are ACTUAL game terminology for an antire game classification that can either bring in or loos se players. Division 2 has more in common with a MOBA than Military Themed games.

@thanhhungvo2649

2 ай бұрын

@@ratherbedealingarmsyou say market speech but they used that exact excuse to not buff things in project Resolve so