I just get mine and same problem...2023 KLR650. Dangerous. Thanks for take your time and upload the video, it was very helpful. I'm sure you save life with this. Thanks one more time.

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

Glad it helped and just make you sure to take it into your dealer. I do have a few follow-up videos on this, and Kawasaki will fix the problem. My only suggestion is make sure that they just don’t change just the torque, but they also change out the bearings. As soon as they did that with mine, it was back to normal, it’s still a great bike.

@scottgoddard3497

3 ай бұрын

@bodeanaventures I will ring the owner of the bike shop I bought it from tomorrow and see if they will do it under warranty. I'm assuming my model will have this issue potentially not recognized. It had done 1800km when I bought it

I’ve had my 2023 Adventure for 2 months and like you, I thought it was a “me” issue. My bike exhibited the same exact symptoms whenever the front suspension would load. Had my dad take the bike for a quick ride and within 45 seconds he noticed an issue with the steering. I brought it in to the dealer I purchased the bike from and they disassembled everything to ensure the bearings and racers were not scored (read about it on a KLR forum post). Luckily, there were no hardware issues. They put it back together and re-torqued the steering nut and it’s as if the bike is completely different, in a good way.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

That’s great to hear

@DSplatter

5 ай бұрын

Pretty similar thing happened to me. Thought I was crazy for a while.

Glad you put this out. I have a 2022 with no problems. I want everyone to enjoy this bike as much as I do.

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

We have great bikes and I understand this only impact of the 2023 models. Hope you have some more great adventures like I plan on. Thanks for watching, appreciate it

I agree totally ! I had that issue , called the dealer about the steering and they said they had no idea of this issue . Because it's a 2 hr drive I fixed it myself . Your video was spot on.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Did you just back to bolt out and tighten back up or were you able to check some grease?

@David-qn9rj

8 ай бұрын

Which bolt? I have that problem to I have only 20 miles on it and noticed on the first red light I get.

I’d be filing a compliant with the NTSB. If it is a known issue from the factory they are liable. The reason they dont want to tell the dealers is they have to pay the dealers to fix the problem, labor costs. Glad you got it sorted.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

please file on my behalf and thanks in advance

@seanoleary1979

8 ай бұрын

Take it easy... I've been riding and racing for 46 years on 37 different bikes - with most having been Kawasakis. Most all of them have been phenomenal and close to bulletproof. Let the dealership right a mild wrong and move on for Christ's sake.

@thelawrence71

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome. That’s a long time racing. Would love to see some vids. Never got to race except just screwing around racing across the corn field and what not to out Mx.

I wonder why the factory didn't call all the dealers and say to adjust these bearings. And you are right, is there is a crash, I think the lawsuit will be crazy higher than fixing the bikes. Glad you found it and that you are now happy with the KLR. Ride Safe

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Even if they didn’t tell me, Jack, at least let the dealers know so they can check the bikes before they go out and again it’s just certain serial numbers

@etienneyomegnedjeugotassa614

Ай бұрын

They don’t have any warranty on them??

Yep. 3,000 miles on my 2023. Got in April. Still fighting the steering. When I reached out to the dealer they gave me the run around. Even said I would probably have to pay for the repair if I want the bearings checked. Kissed me off so I just been riding it. Slow speeds suck. Now that I am armed with this information I am definitely getting it fixed.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

It is not you for sure, steering is totally freed up after

Hi from Australia. I bought my 23 in Febuary. It's an ML and had the steering problem. Dealer eventually backed off the top nut a little bit but they did not test ride it. Even told me that maybe the issue was not the bike.😅 Ended up pulling it apart myself and fixing it. The top bearing was not greased only a smear on the race. I don't think you can say you have fixed it properly if you are only backing off the nut it needs to be inspected. Once fixed it will put a smile on your face to ride it without the problem. We just want the bike to steer normally and that's not too much to ask. Dealer said as far as a warranty issue is concerned unless something breaks or the bike won't go then it is not a problem that would be covered. Shame on Kawasaki for not doing the right thing. It takes the shine off buying a new bike. You are good mates with the dealers when buying the bike but they are not so helpful when you bring it back.

@glenkeleher458

9 ай бұрын

Hi, from Oz also, I have the 2023 Adventure model, ML5 start of serial number, nearly 1500 km no problems yet, what model is yours??

@alanbateman605

9 ай бұрын

Its the adventure model. If you haven't noticed strange steering your bike should be ok.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

You make a good point, and I did not ask about the grease on the top bearing. I may have to do that myself or check it.

Great info for KLR owners and since it's hot news at the moment; I wonder what your CTR would look like if you had *"DOES YOUR KLR SERIAL # BEGIN WITH ML?"* prominently on the thumbnail? Either way. Thanks for sharing, I'll lock away this little bit of knowledge and surprise my KLR friends with it! I'm your 500th subscriber as well!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Appreciate that!

Brand Noob here . Bought a KLR650 and it’s in the shop being looked at thanks to you . Also, I bought a Z650cc and right after the first service. 600 miles it broke down as I was leaving Destination Powersports in Punta Gorda Florida. Dealing with Adam and Zack in Service there . The stator went bad on the Z650cc. Really disappointed with Kawasaki. Zack jumped on my KLR650S and said something wrong with the steering as well. You saved my life. Kawasaki really seems to be declining in quality. 2 bikes 2 different models. Nothing but problems.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Glad the video helped and is why I did this video. Once the steering is fixed, you will love it!

I haven’t had any trouble with my 2023 KLR S. In fact, I was surprised how good it handles. I was expecting it to feel top heavy. Surprised it doesn’t, at least to me. But hey, everyone rides little different. I’m 75yrs old and have owned 28 motorcycles. Have ridden just about every type of riding a person can do, including track days on sport bikes. This 2023 is my third KLR. Besides this bike, I currently have a 2022 KLX300 and a 2023 GSX1300R, Hayabusa. I really like this KLR.

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

What I learned after this video was the model # I gave for issues is in fact the same for all 2023's. That said, there was a group of bikes made where they did over tighten the head nut causiong the issues. Mine actually caused damages to the bearings that they replaced under warranty. All good now and I like you love the bike. You can see follow up videos on my channel if you like. Enjoy the KLR

@LeroyJenkins-ul1kb

3 ай бұрын

Sir, that is an impressive resume! Safe travels.

Great catch and great post. Sadly, many similar problems seem to be emerging in the Mid Level ADV segment - several '22 T7's were shipped with the lower front fork nuts loose. I think the demand is so high that QC is suffering.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

good point on the why.....needs to improve somehow

Thank you bud, thinking this was my imagination. Multiple 2023 KLR 650 owners have posted this exact same problem. I’ll be bringing my bike to the dealership ASAP. Thanks again, stay up 👍🏾

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Glad it helped and let me know how it goes!

@danielw.9090

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures Well my dealership has not heard of this problem they said...I've emailed the situation to Kawasaki Customer Service and am waiting on response, not getting a good feeling about this at all. More as it develops...

@danielw.9090

9 ай бұрын

My friend, issue is resolved! I forwarded Kawasaki’s response to my query of this steering issue to my dealership and they also had not heard of this. They did correct the problem after test riding my bike. They stated that although there has not been incidence of this issue nor has Kawasaki stated there is a problem they experienced the same issue and loosened that steering nut and torque to proper specs and now my bike is KLR PERFECT! Thank you bud and may other ‘23 KLR650 owners get this addressed☀️Stay up sir👍🏾

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

@@danielw.9090 Great news and I have an update video coming soon worth you watching. Mine was fine like yours when I got it back and after two rides, the problem came up again. Hope to have it out this weekend.

@Choos3Lov3

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventureskeep us updated. Best of luck !

That’s just crazy brother. I can’t believe they kept that hidden from their dealers. Kind of an important detail. Kudos to your dealer.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

agree and hoping I am good now

Thanks for the information brother. The klr650 is one of the bikes I'm interested in buying . I talked to my dealership about the steering issue and they didn't hear about it. Sounds like Kawasaki is a company that can't be trusted. Thank you so much for the great video. 👍

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Scott, it’s actually a great bike and it’s just the 2023 in certain serial numbers other than that you can’t go wrong getting one of these

@scottdavis9318

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures I agree that the klr650 is a great bike. I had a 2009 and really liked it. I'm glad you are happy with your bike. Thanks for your reply. 👍

Hi, from Oz, I have the 2023 ML serial plate, mine is and Adventure model, 1500 km (932 Miles) with abs, no problems on or off road yet... is it model specific?

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

All I know is supposedly only the 2023s with the ML serial number. But after making this video there does seem to be a lot of people that are not having a problem but hundreds that are. I’m glad you were not one of those.

I wonder if 2024 models will have this issue. I really like the new color schemes and hope it's been resolved. Definitely bringing it up to our local dealership. Thanks for making this public.

@bodeanaventures

6 ай бұрын

You bet and check out the updated videos since. Explains what is needed and all fixed up now. I hear it is only some 2023’s.

Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed. Let me ask you if if there’s an issue with the 2022 models. I’m considering buying a used 2022 KLR650. The serial # starts with ML… I’m kinda concerned. Thank you.

@bodeanaventures

2 ай бұрын

So there’s some follow-up videos to this and they actually did fix my bike and ended up changing out the bearings. The bike is perfect now and it only impacted 2023 so you were gonna be good to go. You will love the bite.

Thanks for the heads up. I've had my orange 22 ABS Traveler for a little over 2 months and haven't noticed any steering issues. (Id starts with ML) I'm actually pretty impressed with the handling and overall ride quality. I can turn quick slow speed uturns on narrow country roads no problem. I will however keep an eye on it. (Put 900 back country miles so far on it with weekend and occasional afterwork pleasure rides)

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I think it is just on the 23 models, ride safe

@Reaper-fy1dj

6 ай бұрын

My 22 is also doing great

great to see this video ! Im thinking to buy one but i heard about this issue and I was about to change my mind.... def. gonna look at the serial when i do buy it thank you for making the video !

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

I made a follow up video that is in my playlists that will happen. They just finished my bearings today a nd should be good to go. Unfortunate deal but I still love the bike!

So what is the correct torque?

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Sorry about that I did ask the service manager and he did not know. Not sure what the right torque spec is

@ruckuswithani4451

9 ай бұрын

If anyone knows please let me know too!

@stefanpuffer

8 ай бұрын

How could you not ask?

I just bought one (sept 2023), same color as yours. I had a concern that it seems to have a wobble/shimmy starting at around 50mph. It really spooked me. I went on some forums and they mentioned this issue. I wonder if this could be a part of it? Checking my SN when I get home.

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

so I have made a follow up video and have the final video on this topic coming Saturday. All of the 23 are actually ML and some of the 23 were fine and many others not. Mine was impacted and they ended up not only retorguing the nut but that had to replace bearings. Bike is great now

Good info! Thank you for making this video!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure Vic. Hope it helped.

Not surprised at all Sir. When you said what the bike was doing the first thing that came to my mind was an over tight steam head nut. I’ve had this problem on other brands and know of others who have had the same problem. Glad they got you sorted out.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Thanks and in retrospect makes a ton of sense

I have a 2022 adventure model and haven't had any problems with it. In fact, I think the steering and handling at slow speeds is fantastic.

@MichaelWhite-cx4ho

6 ай бұрын

Think you missed the point Ben... This post is in regards to 2023 KLRs whose serial numbers start with the letters "ml." Did you catch that part, or was something exciting happening on Power Rangers that made you lose focus for 10 minutes or so?

@Ben86511

6 ай бұрын

Sure man, just giving my two cents, you don't have to be a dick about it, but I suppose that makes you feel better @@MichaelWhite-cx4ho

@MichaelWhite-cx4ho

6 ай бұрын

@@Ben86511 "Dick?!" Maybe that explains what was on your mind that made you miss THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE ORIGINAL POST.

@dirkdiggler6230

4 ай бұрын

you are adickhead Micheal , just admit it , your parents know it too , juts dont comment its easy@@MichaelWhite-cx4ho

I have a question. After how many miles did this issue arise or was it straight away when you purchased it. My 2023 Is ML but seems fine (211) miles. Still new. Great State you are riding in as the scenery is awesome

@bodeanaventures

8 күн бұрын

I noticed it right away and for what it’s worse since I did this video I realize that all 23s are called ML. It was only a set of them where the calibration tool was out of calibration believe it or not. If you’re not feeling that at low speeds or kind of hard to turn at times and not totally free. You are going to be good.

I noticed a similar problem on my 2023 adventure! Thank you for posting this!

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

You bet and hey I did a follow up video which is good to watch. I ended up needing the bearings replaced because if the over torque. Some do and some don’t. Kawasaki is authorizing the repairs

Good to see bikers looking out for one another. I just sent your video to a friend of a friend I know who owns a new klr. Hopefully Kawasaki will send out a recall on these bikes and if not at least a service bulletin to its dealers so they’re aware of this issue so if they get a call they’re not in the dark about it…

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

We have too right...if it helps one person. I did some follow up videos on it and they ended up replacing my bearings, steers great now

Just checked mine & it starts with the ML. I’ve put 4100 on in 4 months & haven’t had any problems with the steering. I installed aftermarket pro taper Atv high bends handle bars on her right out the gate. Will have them look into it when I take it in to get a new ignition. Good info tho buddy

@robertcavallaro2404

9 ай бұрын

i too have a 2023 with ML serial number and have over 1300 miles on it so far. zero issues with steering.........

@krashgamingandoutdoors1125

9 ай бұрын

I've put over 1000 on mine. Been golden since I rode it off the lot.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Thanks I’m glad to hear that yours is OK. Ride safe.

Oh my lord!! Thank you for making this video. I happened upon your video through sheer synchronicity and am so thankful. I am a lifetime street bike rider and this is my first ADV bike, so I thought it was just me. I kept adjusting the psi and was about to buy all new different tires because the steering has been such a problem. I am going to my dealership right away with this information. And yes my serial # starts with an ML. Thank you, thank you!!!! And SHAME on Kawasaki!! As a female rider who rides alone I do not appreciate their negligence!

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking in and I did make a follow up video on this but let me clarify a few things. Since I made the video I have learned that not all 2023 models are impacted and they all start with ML. That said, mine was one for sure and they backed off the steering stem nut and it made a huge difference. That was only for two weeks though and it came back but not as bad. I took it back and they called Kawasaki again and they immediately told them to change the bearings too. Seems like some get fixed with just a retorque but some of those tightened to much caused a bearing issue. Not sure if they will change your bearings right away but if you get it back and then have problems again, that is it. Still a great bike and Kawasaki is authorizing dealers to fix them but you have to press. Good luck and let me know how it goes!

Just looked at my SN and it has the ML, I gotta wonder if the dealership loosened and retorqued the headstock nut?? the dealership I got mine from kind of sucks, they sent me home with the wrong paperwork first time, and then I got the right paperwork and inside the manual is a blank “presale inspection” sheet. My steering seems so smooth and has since I got it, no jerkyness, no wobble.. I wonder what the bearings and races look like in there, but not about to wrench on it until the warranty is up. But I don’t want the dealership doing it either. Kind of a bind (no pun intended) anyone know the correct torque specs?

I have replaced the bearings in a bike (not KLR) and just because I replaced every single bearing in my bike, and it does seem like it might be easy to over torque.

Thank you! You may have saved a life or a dozen lives or more. Crazy that Kawasaki didn't contact 2023 KLR owners and dealers whose serial numbers started with "ml" IMMEDIATELY. Iron sharpens iron. Thanks again.

@bodeanaventures

6 ай бұрын

My pleasure and I will say for what it’s worth that they did fix the problem without hesitation. Like you said, just think they should’ve told people upfront.

Me too! ML... vin number on my 2023. Noticed it right after driving it off the lot and quite frankly wanted my 2017 KLR back. Thought it was me not knowing as much as I should. No more sore shoulders as it was a chore to hold this bike straight at slow speeds, especially when coming to a stop. Thanks for the heads up. Ride on brothers and sisters.

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

My pleasure and something that I have learned is all of the 23s I guess start with ML vin. It looks like it was just a batch of the 2023s that had the problem and I’m waiting on new bearings right now that Kawasaki did approve. Good luck and once it’s fixed it’ll be great.

Well this is a bummer, got a '23 about a month ago and have been putting around with it on the property since I dont have my license until another 2 weeks.....feels fine but now I'm nervous about getting it on the road, what about the fuel pump issue? Is it just on the '22s or are '23s affected too?

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I’m not sure about any fuel pump issue. This is my first KLR and it’s a 2023. Don’t get too worried about it because if it’s a little stiff you’re gonna be able to adjust it easy and the bike will be perfect for you.

The further issue is when one of these bikes does a considerable mileage before rectification. The bearings will suffer from micro-indentation of the bearing tracks. Or 'brinelling' which is the engineering term for this defect. I recently repaired a Suzuki jeep with this issue with the wheel bearings. The garage overtightened the retaining hub nut when they fit new wheel bearings. The noise when driving the car was remarkably loud. As though failure was imminent. But to look at the bearings, they appeared perfect and as new. Google the term and see what I'm on about: Brinelling. The bearings on Every affected bike need to be replaced. Otherwise the fault will persist, but in a different way, but still faulty!

Got mine in May with ml but no issues thankfully. nice work.

@bodeanaventures

5 ай бұрын

great, all fixed up now

I took mine apart to grease the steering bearings right after I bought it . Same for the swingarm linkages. Not enough grease in either.

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

smart move and interesting info from dealer. They say almost every manufacturer of bikes that get lack grease.

According to the factory manual you use a spring balance on the handlebars to measure turning resistance not torque on the stem nut !!

Just seen your Video. Have the same issue, took it to the dealer and they said no recall and nothing wrong. I have been riding since I have been 8 years old, I am now 60. This issue was causing me to think I was losing my ability and second guessing myself. You have now given me the ammunition I need to get this issue resolved and restore my confidence. Thank You! My serial number also starts with an ML.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure and your thoughts are right on. Let me know how it goes!

I’m sure I missed the torque setting but what was it supposed to be torqued to?

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

you did not miss it and they did not tell me. They did end up having to change the bearings and all good now.

I am a former Harley tech. Recalls are issued usually if a large number of their product is affected and a high chance of injury, accident, or death is involved with said issue. Years ago now there was a fuel pump recall that Haley had it affected the large cruisers, the amount of bikes that sold with later known probable defected part was quite large nation wide. Therefor a recall was issued. Now there was a issue with the Trikes at time, kind of major issue but it didn't affect the whole line. Once we as a dealer became aware if it officially we called our customers that had purchased one form us (I think like 6 that year), and told them to come by on Saturday get a hot dog we want to check their bikes. This became a tech tip, meaning "this needs attention if the unit comes in our possession weather service or sales". It may take a while for it to be as common as the dang doohickey but in time it will be resolved. It takes people questioning and posting to make things happen. Good on you for putting some light on this. I would add something to the title about steering so when another owner goes to KZread to find a help or options it comes up for them. Oh and thank you for noting your not a mechanic or tech......I had more "I tried to install this part and" ......tickets then anything else..If you are the least bit unsure see your tech... its cheaper than having fix it afterwards. Good viedo, great information, Love the KLR committee, keep up the good work.

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

same and thanks for your thoughts. I think they should have told the dealer at least.

I have a 2023 klx300sm I got on last friday and I’m having the same issue I’ve been to the dealer 3 times and even bought a new 120 front tire for more grip. But it’s only between 15-25 mph it’s an issue. My serial number starts with ML

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Get it and I know the problem and how to get them to fix it. I have a video at 4 pm today that I think will help you

Thanks! I have one with ML …serial number , and I feel de the problem ! The problem is by over tigrh?

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

That is it and glad it helped

@jushirocepeda3031

9 ай бұрын

Gracias y saludos desde Mexico

wow..kawa admitted it was a problem and didn't contact all dealers and owners...the liability on this issue is thru the roof

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Pretty big surprise to me too

That explains why I’m seeing new Gen 3 KLR650’s selling in high numbers and for the prices of Gen 1 & 2 KLR’s. Sorry to hear of the problems with steering, I’ve heard of the fuel pump issues on them and now this.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

thanks and hoping I am good to go now. Ride safe

what about the 2024? and how do you know? My steering feels fine, actually really smooth, but I am going from a cr250r so these heavy bikes are kind of new to me.

@bodeanaventures

2 ай бұрын

no issues with 2024 I am told

Great info! Thanks

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Thanks for the disclaimer, I'll be asking my dealer about this before I leave the lot. The bike that I'm looking at does start with ML in the VIN number, is that what you're talking about?

@bodeanaventures

4 ай бұрын

Check out the two follow up videos. I have since this video learned they are all ML and the is just impacted many 2023. They ended up pulling the front off and changing the bearings which is the fix. Rides great now and if you are just getting one, I bet you will be okay. You will notice it the first time you ride it on a turn and it at low speeds. Good luck and let me know how it works out

@Dr0ctagonapus5

4 ай бұрын

@bodeanaventures I shall test it in the parking lot first, then. I'll go watch those other videos, thanks again. 👍

Thank you for this video. I bought a 2023 KLR 650S three weeks ago and about 100 miles in, I noticed the steering issue. I contacted the dealer, they said they haven't heard anything about it. Like you, I checked the forums and there it was. My VIN starts with ML. I have to get this bike fixed before it kills me. I am taking it back to the dealer. I will not ride it anymore until the issue is resolved. I may use this video for reference. Kawi needs to step up before there is class-action litigation.

@n721sw

9 ай бұрын

On commenters advise here, I have submitted a report to the NTSB -------- "The vehicle has a dangerous steering issue. While in a slower speed turn, the vehicle's steering becomes restricted, and then unexpectedly free's up, which almost causes a crash. Some are referring to this as the "steering notch issue". There are multiple references to this issue in online forums. The Kawasaki dealer says that they have not been informed of any steering issues. This bike will kill me unless this issue is resolved. I will be taking it back to the dealer for service."

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Good luck in getting that resolved and I’m glad the video helped in any small way. Don’t get too discouraged about the bike because I will say since I’ve had it fixed it has been great. Let me know how it ends up.

I've got a "ML" but only a 100 miles on it so far.. Haven't noticed anything yet. Does anyone know the correct torque setting? Thanks for the video :)

@krashgamingandoutdoors1125

9 ай бұрын

Mine is also ML. 1000 miles perfect from dealer.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I do not, but I know that there’s a lot of people that saying they do not have that problem but 100 saying they are. Maybe they fixed it halfway through I don’t know but glad your bike is good.

I have heard that once tightened too much it damages the bearings. You might want to check into that and make them change the bearings

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

you are right too and they ended up doing that

I just bought a KLX300 , in the back of my owners manual there is a page that states "If you believe that your vehicle has a defect which could cause a crash or could cause injury or death you should immediately inform the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration" it goes on to describe how , this page is in every new owners manual by law , please everyone do this !

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

It’s just a shame because everybody’s has problems. It’s just how you correct those to me that’s the most important.

Kawasaki should be sued!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Not sure but wish they just let us know. All companies make mistakes but it’s how you corrected that matters to me. The bikes been great since it’s been fixed though.

I had them replace my bearings and races outright and repack the grease/retorque.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Smart move!

Is this on the 22 models as well?

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

My understanding is it is just a certain group of 23 models

We bought 2 23 KLRs. Mine was perfect, my dad's suffers from this issue. Disgusting that they're just letting this happen. I'm too scared to ride my dad's bike, it's straight up dangerous.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Definitely is not right

Can’t wait to see you out there doing jumps and tricks now!!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I really didn’t realize how tight it was Patrick until they loosened it up

@Motoramblings

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures that’s crazy, I probably would have been thinking about getting rid of it as well

Thanks for sharing!

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

All fixed now and they changed out the bearings

I have a 23, and it had the tight steering as well. My issue was two fold. Firstly the tops steering head nut was far over torqued. Secondly, the top steering bearing had next to no grease. Once I removed the top tree, packed the bearing with grease, and reinstalled and torqued the top nut to spec. All better. If you fix the top nut torque and it still feels tight or like the front wheel is falling into a divot in the road at 12:00, you need to check the lubrication.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Great info and thanks

Recalls are almost exclusively safety related, like life and death, not “my bike feels funny”. When they find a trend they will often issue a service bulletin. So when you bring your bike in for service they would address that. It’s one of the reasons we pay so much for a dealer service. People who do their own services don’t have access to the factory information. It is unfortunate that manufacturers don’t follow the forums. There’s a lot of great information out there. Also, those surveys don’t come from Kawasaki, they are from a marketing firm.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Agree on the manufacturers and forums for sure. My company also (as almost all do) have firms that own the survey process but you can make darn sure I see every bad one. Big company life I guess

UPDATE : MY KLR HAD 1.9 FOOT POUNDS OF TORQUE TOO MUCH.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

You all set now?

@crruzzzer1

8 ай бұрын

What is the correct torque value?

Mine was so over tight that it damaged the races and bearings. The dealership had to replace everything.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

And I assume your serial number starts with MK. Things like this happen and I get it but for them not to tell the dealers so when people complain about it, they know how to fix it just baffles me.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

doing a follow up video tomorrow, I had to take it back and now factory is saying re torque AND replace bearings

@CecilMurderfist

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures it's crazy that these things are allowed to roll into dealerships in this condition. Once you get the steering fixed, it's an incredibly fun bike to explore on.

mine starts with MLi I bought it last September its a 2022 I think that all Gen 3 must be ML . I am having no steering issues so it should be I guess just limited to the newer models.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I hear just 23 at least what Kawasaki said. Glad yours is good!

My new 2023... I just looked at my serial ml has been hard to steer. Dangerous! I have been riding for 45 years and never experienced this. I thought it was hot asphalt but no. I'm not crazy, neither r u! Awesome video! Right on

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Thanks and hope it helps to get your fixed. Your gut on the steering was right!

Thanks, I have the steering issue and have brought it up to the the dealer. They blamed tire pressure. After watching this video I checked mine and there it was, ML, I was a non believer turned believer brother!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Hope it helped and let me know how it goes

I have a 2022 adventure klr 650 and my problem is the opposite problem my steering has no resistance at all. Thanks for info. I'm gonna tighten mine up a little until it's how I'm comfortable. Thanks for info mate.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure and hope you find that right sweet spot

That's funny, new owner of gen 2 2016 model. I've heard people have complained about the front head is torqued to loose and with the 705s the bike wobbles, especially with the factory air setting. I increased the pressure and intend to tighten the head up after a regrease of the bearings.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

That is very interesting. They did say that the tolerances are super tight but you sure would think they would get that right before they sent them out.

I have a 22 basic model and the wife has a 24 basic model and luckily we never had any steering issues, my 22 had a starter issue and after having a new starter fitted is an A1 bike.

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

Glad you’re good and as I understand it, just a certain group of 2023 models. Enjoy the bikes

Thanks for the Info.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

You bet!

Very helpful. A terrible problem. Potentially understeer into the opposition.

@bodeanaventures

2 ай бұрын

Glad it helped and ultimately they fix the problem by also retorquing and changing out the bearings

I purchased a '23 KLR this past March and I'm having a significant steering problem also. At lower speeds, I have to fight with the handle bars to keep it straight as the front tire will wonder from side to side. At higher speeds on twist roads, the problem intensifies. I did some research on this last night and found that there other people having this same issue. I am going to call my dealer today to discuss the issue. My dealer is 191 miles away which is a real bummer. The good thing is that the service advisor is a Gen 3 KLR owner and may be aware of the issue and may get me in for service without any sort of hassle. Now, if it's overtightened bearings, I could adjust the steering myself, but, since there is 2300 miles on the bike, I am concerned that there may be damage. My VIN starts with ML.

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

I did do a follow up video which would be a good watch for you. To clarify, I have learned that all the 23 are ML Vin number and some have the issues and others not. I had my steering stem nut adjusted and it worked great. Thats for three rides and then the problem came back not as bad but still wrong. I took it back and Kawasaki immediately authorized them to change the bearings. Waiting on them backordered now. They may do the nut first and send you away but if it goes back to stiff I would take it back. Good luck and I am sure they will fix it, just a pain getting there and wish they told everyone.

@SigmaSheepdog

8 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures Thank you for the information, I'll check out the video in the morning. I did call my dealer today and spoke to the service manager. I explained the situation and he knew exactly what I was talking about and he told me that they have had KLR's recently for that same issue. He said that Kawasaki did issue a service bulletin concerning the problem. I set up an appointment for next Thursday and they are going to replace the bearings on my bike. Earier today, just after watching this video, I did place my KLR on a lift to check the front end, and I found that the bearings are definitely too tight. The steering would not move to either side by itself and I had to physically move it.

Sounds like a potential lawsuit there!!!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Even that aside, you would think they would tell the dealer so they could fix these things before they go out or know what the problem is when a customer calls

@Motoramblings

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures that just makes sense!!

Good bike or not, I'd be real soured toward the machine and Kawasaki.... Glad you stayed on the problem until it was resolved and didn't get messed up from it.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

agree....fixed but still bothers the hell out of me

What was the Torque Specs for the neck bolt supposed to be??? 😮

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

I do not because dealer did it. After getting the bike back, problem reoccurred and they ended up needing to change the bearings. Seems good now. I have a follow up video worth a watch

Thanks for the info.

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

You bet!

Mines in the shop for the same issue. My steering almost locked up in a slow turn thursday.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I am so glad you are getting it fixed! Will be a like a different bike when you get it back

@thekikendallsautoandrandom1271

9 ай бұрын

Im advising everyone with this issue to file a complaint with the NHTSA. They will investigate and force kawa to do a recall.

Amazing that dealerships are that incompetent. Tight steering? Don’t need to ride it, jack the front end off the ground and it’s probably pretty obvious. There aren’t that many components in there. Bearing cups, bearings, a cap and a nut to load the bearings. Exactly why I stay clear of dealerships. Owners in the forums know more than the mechanics.

@bodeanaventures

3 ай бұрын

Don’t disagree but since it was new under warranty and it needed new bearings, I let them do it.

@martymcfly6098

3 ай бұрын

Just a bunch of BS that is going on with new bikes. Good luck with it.

You're right, Kawasaki doesn't care about some tight steering on a few $6500 motorcycles. sucks you got one of them. my 23 has been perfect. if it wasnt id fix it myself

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

Even after a month or so has gone by I still agree that they should have told dealerships that there is a problem and some of the 2023 models. For their credit, they are authorizing to not only make the adjustment on the steering stem, but also replace the bearings

That’s shocking, Kawasaki should have come clean about this dangerous problem

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

Agree they are fixing the problem under warranty now though

My serial number starts with ML and no steering issues. Maybe my dealer knew about this and addressed it before selling?

@bodeanaventures

Ай бұрын

You probably didn’t get a chance to see the follow up videos to this, but after I made this video, I found out that it was just certain ML’s because apparently they all have that serial number. They end up having to change the bearings on mine but all good. if you haven’t had the problem, you’re gonna be good to go

I bought my 23 KLR650 abs 5/31, I now have 1900 miles on it. I've noticed a tightness at low speeds. I assumed it was the 21 front wheel. I also changed my factory tires to Metzler Tourance to get more control. I'll try and retorque it. I'm ML.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Hope that helps and let me know how it goes

@str11pes

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures Thank You so much! You probably saved my life.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

@@str11pes so glad it helped and I have another update important to hear. Video will be out tomorrow night. I know more from the factory now that I hope helps people get them fixed

@user-ze7wc7nz1j

7 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventures 11:35 11:35

This should go viral, that is messed up.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Finally getting fixed but did not feel right for sure

Shame on Kawasaki.....koodos to your dealer for stepping up!...great video...thanks for sharing....stay safe...ride safe!!!😎👍🤙👍🤙🇨🇦

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Thanks brother and I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt by not telling me. But when they didn’t even put a bulletin out to the dealers, that’s what kind of frosted me about it.

Yep. People didn't believe me. Said it was the air pressure or the knobbies. Just checked and mine is an ML 2023. The dealer is going to rebuild mine. I did make the adjustment myself but I think there was some damage done already.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I’m so glad you’re getting yours fixed as well and I just wish they would’ve told us. Apparently that ML start on the serial number are the ones impacted. Let me know how it feels when you get it back. It’s like a new bike to me.

Wow, and no recall on this model. Shame on Kawasaki. I'm so glad you have it fixed. Cheers Saddlebags ;-)

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Amen saddlebags, amen

I feel a lot of things are overtightened on these bikes. I have a very expensive torque wrench(480 bucks). When I went to change the rear tire after the factory wore out I had to use a cheater bar to break it loose. After putting it all together and torquing to specs I can now easily take my wrench and spin it off with one hand. When I changed out the front a month later I twisted the hex adapter I got from 3d. So I bought a steel large one and had to hook a large box wrench on it to get it loose. And since retorque to spec I can break it loose easily with one hand.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Shame we have to do that isn't it Dave

I just bought a used 2018 and I think first gear is a little too fast But 5th gear seems perfect for cruising down the highway so I don't want to mess with the chain sprocket

@bodeanaventures

4 ай бұрын

Hope you are liking it!

Thanks for doing this video mate. I’m now off to check my serial number….

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure and let me know how it goes

That is some shady crap. Props to the dealership..

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I’m just glad it’s over with so I can enjoy the bike

I have a 23 adventure with ml in number and have not had a problem, picked up may 3rd

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

That’s good to hear!

My 2023 had same issues with steering from factory My serial no. Starts with ML… the dealership fixed it at 1st service 600km I’m in Australia it was dangerous

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Glad you are set!

Getting mine fixed now!

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

That’s excellent, mine was so much better once it was fixed. Let me know how it goes.

Japanese Manufacturers build each countries allotments in one bunch… So once you see one problem you are likely to see it repeat… the problem is they see it as less than 3% lets say reports it, so no problem… we saw it at Suzuki cars all the time… problem would show up in Chicago but not Arizona… this issue would be more across the board but maybe just being identified and dealer memo just has not gone out yet as they verify which production runs are effected… Glad they at least admitted to it once questioned…. Bet the memo is soon released…

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I get that and this video has gotten a lot of feedback. Many people that have not had a problem but tons and tons of people that have. Maybe they caught it halfway in?

I’m oz 2022 model non adventure model 1800km - I haven’t noticed any binding at slow speed - I’m an ML start of vin.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

I believe it is just 2023 models

Really hope Kawasaki sees this

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Me too!

What I don't get these dealerships are suppose to check these bikes before they sale them. This is what you pay for when you purchase the bike dealership prep fee's. there is a check list they are supposed to follow before you take it home. I just bought a 2023 cf Moto ibex800 s and they did a check list before I took it home and they found out the right hand foot peg had a crack in it and replaced also the seat had a small razor blade cut on it which they replaced it with a new one. This is why they should let you test drive the motorcycle before you purchase it. I bought my 2016 klr 650 without a test drive didn't know what the power was like might of changed my mind but still enjoyed it very much just under powered for me I had it for 6 years I kinda miss it. Glad you you got it taken care of and the dealership is aware it. I am a big Kawasaki fan it's too bad they let this go on someone is going to get hurt or killed for this issue. Shame on you Kawasaki! You need to send a recall out for your mistake.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

You are right on as the dealership should have tested it too

As a result of the over torque problem, you also need to have the bearings replaced as they have been smashed and will soon become a steering problem as well. This has also a topic you will find in the forums.

@bodeanaventures

7 ай бұрын

You are right on and after two good rides, it reverted some. They ended up replacing the bearings and actually did a video on it. While pissed how they handled it, they did ultimately fix if under warranty kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnyEuZuThbbfZLw.html

I have a 2022 bought new in March 22 and after 14000 kms it has recently begun to have the binding steering syndrome. As all the others, only at slow speeds and coming to a stop. My Serial number begins with "ML". Taking it in to the shop asap.

@bodeanaventures

9 ай бұрын

Good and I thought it was only the 2023 models but who really knows as we just talked to one guy at the factory. Let me know how yours ends up please

@My17A

9 ай бұрын

@@bodeanaventuresRodger that!

Good information. I kinda doubt that the dealer talked to the factory, probably Kawasaki USA headquarters. Language and time zone differences would be a barrier to talking to the factory.

@bodeanaventures

8 ай бұрын

You may be right, I was actually on a second call when they authorized my bearings replacement.