Fans when idols are overworked: 🤬 Fans when idols get time off work like they’re supposed to: 🤬
@heliaa11
10 ай бұрын
SO TRUE
@randomuaena2859
10 ай бұрын
Fr
@sarahyeates
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like it
@jx86xj
10 ай бұрын
They are bad fans
@mikaela000
10 ай бұрын
It's almost as if they're romanticizing them so much if their lifestyle doesn't fit their imaginary (mostly miserable) picture they get upset. A very interesting thing really. Couldn't imagine being idolized.
@laryssazortea713510 ай бұрын
SM was literally sued many times for overworking their idols and now we are complaining that aespa has a healthy work schedule? For real?
@snowminL485
10 ай бұрын
Only problem is here SM overworked their boy groups,but ggs gets minimal... That's all.
@blurryface5744
10 ай бұрын
kpop "fans" none of these care about the idols. They're looking for something to hate about.
@audrayliar7480
10 ай бұрын
I don't think the complaining was about them having a healthy work schedule. The complaining was more directed towards Karina specifially for saying other idols would lie when saying they don't have time bc others probably often don't have healthy work schedules and/or have other shit going on too. Saying something like she said just seems really privileged. I don't know her really but she probably just said it without really thinking about the implications, maybe she even said it light heartedly as a joke (I don't know the original clip so I don't know) But yeah, tldr I think the complaining is not about her work schedule but about her assuming others have it "as easy as her"
@fabi4183
10 ай бұрын
@@audrayliar7480 i mean, it definitely wasn't as deep as people are making it out to be. context matters a lot, she said it after showing she finished the last level of a little mobile game, that's where her free time goes, every idol can potentially get SOME free time to do a silly little relaxing activity like playing a mobile game once in a while, even if they're overworked because let's be fr they're not gonna pull them off from music shows right away just to keep going with other stuff, i believe for the most part they stay through the whole broadcast and they should have free time backstage
@hanjesse31
10 ай бұрын
When you are not a gamer you wouldn't understand the time and dedicatio to finish a game
@mina732010 ай бұрын
nayeon says it too, she said that they have a lot of time between comebacks even if it seems short, and that they are very bored
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
They're pros in time management now so they have free time even with their busy schedules.✨ Probably got so used to being busy that they get bored when there's no work.😂
@Vor567tez
18 күн бұрын
I mean it's job just like any other. I don't see what's unusual about her saying that. Many people after finishing their job play games. Beside gaming is addictive. You can play whole night even if tired.
@StressJudoCoaching10 ай бұрын
"Netizens" don't exist. It's 2 twitter accounts with 3 followers between them, posting crap for attention
@wearmeout1
9 ай бұрын
they’re talking about korean netizens and there are entire websites dedicated to translating their comments
@faceofvision
4 ай бұрын
Just because someone is jobless enough to translate those comments doesn't make them any more valid or relevant, I can say any shit I want to, but kpop stans somehow decided that shit talkers get some relevance just because they are Korean @@wearmeout1
@jypabandondchild697711 ай бұрын
Y’all wanna know a fun fact…..idols don’t work 24/7 even if their group has a lot of comebacks and they write their own songs! 😀
@AriaShouldHaveBeenA
10 ай бұрын
Except they work for Jyp
@fearstayland
10 ай бұрын
not skz and gidle tho yall stay safe 😵💫
@asxtro7145
10 ай бұрын
@@fearstaylandgirl include Twice in your list. Twice is THE busiest girl group.
@eleventwelve2650
10 ай бұрын
It depends how popular an idol is. If you're a "side character" then you have time while the comeback is still being made.
@mordecaiissad8529
10 ай бұрын
@@eleventwelve2650lso most idols are really busy only in short periods during promotions. A lot of work around the comeback is done a lot earlier even if they self produce and even when they are busy most of their schedules are a lot of waiting. Regularly even if they had 8h workdays (a lot can be done in K-pop in 8h cause idols schedules aren't really involved in staging or editing) that still leaves a lot of time to do whatever with your day.
@SaurSlayy11 ай бұрын
karina really FINISHED my most hated game *gardenscapes*
@YosemiOveri136
10 ай бұрын
LMAO honestly I don’t play it but is the game good?
@__chatnwaaaaar
10 ай бұрын
This game is my favorite 🥲
@__chatnwaaaaar
10 ай бұрын
@@YosemiOveri136yes it is good !!!
@YosemiOveri136
10 ай бұрын
@@__chatnwaaaaar Ok!!
@wuraolababalola6301
10 ай бұрын
It's good but I prefer homescapes
@rafar831110 ай бұрын
*idol gets a busy schedule* "stop overworking them, they are humans too, give them a break" *idols do human things* "you're just lazy, you don't work as hard as others"
@crispiio
10 ай бұрын
lmao
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
This is so correct like I don't know what's wrong with netizens
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
True. Lmao. I'm happy when idols have their hobbies that let them relax from work.
@rubi15510 ай бұрын
netizens get so mad when they know that their faves are just people in the end 😭
@matjb10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: almost everyone that works also has a lot of free time in between shifts. Everyone has some amount of free time.
@spotlightpalette2352
10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@udiana2887
10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Idols usually have breaks while waiting for their turn to perform during promotions so they can have enough energy to perform well on stage. I remember this one ep where a show about The Manager. That show shows managers' of celebs showed a life of how managers manage their celebs. Seventeen literally had breaks and even napped in their waiting room as they started their day in the wee hours. They're not FULLY busy, they just had small breaks here and there to keep them fresh and have enough rest for them.
@hyukleberry5567
10 ай бұрын
!!! Groups only get hella busy when they're doing comeback promotions or touring.
@hycklver1967
10 ай бұрын
Nah man not mark and haechan lol
@aleleliah
10 ай бұрын
@hycklver1967 this is the only idols I can full on agree on them being way too busy, if u think abt it they kind of have 2 full time jobs for being in 2 active groups
@sosashii621410 ай бұрын
Karina seems to be so real which is triggering some cause they want to believe their faves are too busy being idols instead of you know being humans
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@reeses_unicorn
10 ай бұрын
I'll never get that logic. My favorite idols tend to be the ones who seem the most real to me.
@lulu_Lm
10 ай бұрын
real? she's 80% plastic.
@saltyriz7734
10 ай бұрын
@@lulu_Lmstay mad bc shes pretty and rich still
@tyraofosu2940
9 ай бұрын
@@lulu_Lmwhy are you even here? 💀 find something better to do
@bbkyuu10 ай бұрын
The only idols I truly believe don't have any free time are NCT Mark and Haechan... they are so busy Haechan didn't even have time to go to the doctor
@ashketchup4149
7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah I remember that ,it's just so sad .And speaking of Haechan case he haven't even been able to release solo music bcoz of his tough schedule .
@KhadaJhin0410 ай бұрын
Karina stays goated. She was being playful, hope she speaks her mind more often and cause these twirps to lose their mind even more.
@wonyoungdefender10 ай бұрын
i love karina tbh she’s so real, ppl need to leave her alone
@aiko-dk2is
10 ай бұрын
fr😭
@wonyoungdefender
10 ай бұрын
@@SlinkyStinky453 i dont see how that’s a problem? many idols get ps,, im sure your favs have too.
@haerincore.4572
10 ай бұрын
@@SlinkyStinky453said that for what 💀 you sound jealous, nothing wrong with plastic surgery. Don't hate because of your insecurities
@unitydestiny
10 ай бұрын
@@haerincore.4572 facts! i don't even know why this person even said that out of nowhere 😭 they sound so jealous of karina's beauty ..
@-thecooloreo-6510
10 ай бұрын
I love her sm for that
@hairscrunchieltd11 ай бұрын
Karina: Idols are people too y'know The same deranged ppl that like to complain about everything: how dare you?! You just don't work hard enough. By that logic blackpink is having the vacation of their lives. Even Felix from SKZ has said he spends hours on tiktok. Y'all just like complaining about everything
@CharlotteMayJane
10 ай бұрын
But Blackpink members have been on a world tour for 9 months..
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
@@CharlotteMayJaneyeah, but they had like 2 years of hiatus, even tho they became a brand model, they had more time to relax
@CharlotteMayJane
10 ай бұрын
@@orizadhiazwanti9344 oh yes!
@saniqueburke1742
10 ай бұрын
Blackpink is on no vacation they are still on tour the sad thing is yg has the nerve to just to put on stage for the first time in 2022 if you think blackpink doesnt get mistreated your wrong
@ONLYS3LMA
10 ай бұрын
@@orizadhiazwanti9344blackpink we’re working on projects
@AndrewSearaCanada9 ай бұрын
What happens is that idols tend to have both: -When there's comeback they literally have no time between practice, promotions and everything and thy sleep very little. -But in between comebacks they have months of complete inactivity where they have all day free.
@yue108410 ай бұрын
she's so real for this, idols say they don't have free time because they don't want fans to know what they do with it (which is perfectly reasonable)
@whaz405611 ай бұрын
Fans know more about idol's life than Karina herself 🙃
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
what do you mean by that
@cbcimutebi5564
10 ай бұрын
@@lexie485The fans are saying that what Karina is saying about kpop idols is wrong even tho Karina is literally one and the fans are not
@chungee
10 ай бұрын
@@lexie485the comment is sarcastic, saying that the fans believe they know more about being and idol other than an actual idol. The comment is basically saying that “fans” are delusional
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
ohhh, thanks, I get it now
@orion5445
10 ай бұрын
Imagine people who never did your job telling you what it's like to do your job.
@MoaDiarys10 ай бұрын
Karina: idols have free time to do fun stuff Some people on Twitter: HOW DARE YOU, DON’T GENERALIZE
@stefanustanudjaja5029
9 ай бұрын
Perhaps it may overrides the attention on idols who was not as lucky
@viclusiv
9 ай бұрын
LMAO
@Maria-he1db
9 ай бұрын
Karina: They're lying when they say they don't have time to do certain things Some people on twitter: Don't generalize
@ristocrats247
9 ай бұрын
Literally theyre many idol whose life doesn't job and they are quite unlucky in industry so why the sensitivity? Its not entirely wrong tho
@kyokugo646010 ай бұрын
Everytime an idol spills tea people criticize them cuz they cannot handle truth😂😂
@_april578010 ай бұрын
I've realized that fans doesn't actually care about idols health and safety. This shows it all right here.
@roagrr10 ай бұрын
gotta stan a top 1% gardenscapes queen
@sagisdoodleverse9696
10 ай бұрын
I used to play gardenscapes religiously
@user-rq8pe7vw8t
9 ай бұрын
I may not be a fan of hers but I'm amaze how she got to that level. My mom likes to play that game
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
Casually being top 1% in her free time ✨
@vrushalishirsath730910 ай бұрын
fans :- idols are humans too idols start interacting with people like humans fans :- 😠😠😡😡🤬🤬
@M-imi...
10 ай бұрын
OmG tHeY sLePt ToGeThEr😱😱
@jisungiee810
10 ай бұрын
Lmao😂
@Ionlyeatchipzeveryday
10 ай бұрын
FR its really annoying
@okay_time2go
10 ай бұрын
fr like at this point what do they want
@randomuaena2859
10 ай бұрын
Fr
@elijahpham804810 ай бұрын
lol you just cut her saying short. she said idols spend so much time on moving between venue and waiting. that is when she has her freetime
@cloudsn
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! The comments in here are wild. Every idol works hard, but of course they have downtime.
@L.l.I.ia_N10 ай бұрын
her words makes total sense. we barely see idols progress over time which would be different if they were constantly working.
@karin667010 ай бұрын
Even svt who has so many scheduled and making their own music and dance have time to have fun, meeting friends, playing Lego or watch anime. It just depends on how you manage your time. And company isn't deranged enough to really work a person 24/7. They're busy, yes. But human adapt. And circumstances aren't always the same. Sometimes the schedule will be super tight, sometimes it's not. so many things are prerecorded too. You'd think it's everyday things but it's 3-4 days of crazy schedule, then rest time. Idols also have treatment day, imagine if they're so busy they can't even go to dermatologist or hospitals for their frequent check up, etc etc. Their smooth glass skin isn't freely given since birth. What I'm trying to say is, it's silly to condemn karina just to spit some fact. Even if the fact isn't currently applied to your faves, but who knows. You're not in the business.
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
yeah tbh, imo idol had kinda period time of busy, so during the cb promotion and tour they'll be super busy, but after that they'll had a time off bcz they dont had any schedule
@jiaverse
10 ай бұрын
But even you said it it might not apply to everyone’s favs so why is Karina making a blanket statement? It’s okay if she says oh i have time to do whatever or aespa has time to do whatever but why is she saying all idols have time and if not they’re lying??? some are doing stuff like full on tours and comebacks at the same time, even if you have free time then you’d be too exhausted to do anything…
@sultoni9719
10 ай бұрын
@@jiaversewell it's up to their choice whether their free time be used for sleeping, resting, gaming, etc, people heals differently, so karina is still right, that idols have freetime too like us, they dont work 24/7. During busy (comebacks and tours) schedule, there's wait time in between sets, being on a bus, etc, it's their free time during busy schedule, it depends on how they use it, and karina for example knows how to utilize it. Dont forget after a comeback they can rest for a while until the next comeback
@anizeer
10 ай бұрын
Wonwoo too plays game in Weverse Live.
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
@@jiaverse if u really heard their story from live or at least in show, they do reveal they often hang out with their friend, and even their concert era a lot of fans sometimes meet the idol in shopping area/other public place just walk around and enjoyed their day, and its clear its their time off, and its even came from busiest idol nowdays like straykids, seventeen, TXT even blackpink, they do had time off, the company isnt that cruel to not let them enjoyed live, tbh trainee is the one who didnt had break time but after becoming an idol, they usually only got holiday during weekend and somtimes they still went to company to train bcz they feel they arent that good yet, its definitely more relaxing than become trainee
@morkmeinyourheartt10 ай бұрын
kpop idols spend most of their time waiting in green room for music shows, waiting time before concerts, and in plane when traveling like yes they do have free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies. Also no one said they didn’t have free time but she’s acting like Kpop idols get months off of work
@taeilsays
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 except she never said that lmaoooo gtfo
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@taeilsays what? She said that it’s a lie that celebrities don’t have time to do things
@frfars
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417she don’t even say ‘how much’ free time kpop idols have. But you make it too serious with your thought 😭 MOA better spread positive vibe and don’t throw hates, thank you ❤❤
@justme-qd6qb
10 ай бұрын
I don't feel like waiting time counts as quality free time, I certainly don't regard waiting in for the Docters waiting room or bus or in line at a grocery store etc as leisure time for myself
@somi-199210 ай бұрын
I’m loving her more and more because I first thought she was a just a pretty but now as she talks and shows her personality she is very interesting and more genuine that other template idols
@8luvbug
2 ай бұрын
Oh please even the so called real idols are fake
@Hyxnjxn10 ай бұрын
I love how people really think idols don’t have time. If that’s the case they wouldn’t be catching flights to appear at different brand parties and events. Making music or not they have time. Even seohyun of SNSD even admitted to writing a song while she was out on a hike. She said the lyrics came to her once she got to the top of the mountain. No one in this world works 24/7
@0-0_kyh1610 ай бұрын
She’s real for that 😂
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
How
@makanyamnyam
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417for being ordinary people and opened up about herself, that's how
@8luvbug
2 ай бұрын
Generalizing others doesn't make her real. Haechan said he's so busy that he doesn't have time to go to the doctor. Do you really think he's lying about that?
@sicatsz
Ай бұрын
@@8luvbugshe’s obviously not talking about everybody and if you’re apart of the dumbass group of people slow enough to believe that that’s YOUR problem.
@0-0_kyh16
18 күн бұрын
@@8luvbug???? From my perspective, I’m getting swamped by assignments and can’t leave my house but I have time to reach level 5000 on my mobile game. She’s real cause I relate to her.
@xxxtttxxx726010 ай бұрын
One of the most realistic idol. My god i love her
@Dark0n3_Plays
10 ай бұрын
she dose get backlash for visuals but see is def real for exposing idols of there free time i mean shhh some dont say they have free time just to do nothing and its not generlizing idols if they all have time things to do when its most of the time them walking or do nothing really and hang out
@nightowleditz_official
10 ай бұрын
Aespa didn't even cry on first ever award lol there so realistic
@katgreer6113
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_officialexactly.
@saltyriz7734
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_officialso kpop idols who do cry during wins arent?
@Dark0n3_Plays
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_official i didn't for my first championship so we all have different way to express gratitude for something crying is what people do most of the times because they don't expect it aespa expected it there really popular because of the company and the promotions
@griseldiaz350910 ай бұрын
Dongpyo said the same thing lmao the amount of time they stay in their changing rooms waiting for their turn in music shows and filming mvs or variety shows makes a great percentage of their entire work schedule
@episode4010 ай бұрын
it’s actually true y’all… so many idols are very jobless most of the time 😭 i am related to one (not gonna name them for obvious reasons) but they’re constantly chatting with their friends on instagram and they are friends with many international celebrities
@user-dy1cz4tf4f10 ай бұрын
Why are they so mad? Karina, an Idol for 3 years knows what its truly like. She went through training and even knows what to do in the music videos. But after that, she also knows that all idols do get a few breaks. She knows what an idol experiences. Why are some no-life fans with no responsibilities focusing on her words instead of focusing on theirself?
@Arcessitor
10 ай бұрын
They're mad because she says "Idols (general) have free time," when people know this isn't true for a lot of idols.
@davidlick1
10 ай бұрын
@@Arcessitoru dumb, it is true for all the idols Or are they robots that dont need free time? Like a real human? No one is saying their schedule is easy, but for sure they have those moments of free time, they are HUMANS u know?
@ishathakor
10 ай бұрын
@@Arcessitor idols (general) DO have free time lmao. no matter how overworked they are they still have the "off" season (when they aren't preparing for a comeback) and even preparing for/doing a comeback has a lot of free or "free" time baked into it. idols spend the entire day waiting in green rooms to go out and spend like 30 minutes recording a performance. that's still free time, even if you can't do everything you want - it's a break at work. they can watch stuff on their phones, scroll on tiktok, play games, read books, call their friends and family, whatever they want (as long as they dont mess up their hair and makeup, presumably). definitely i don't think a lot of idol schedules are healthy or sustainable. but this is also something you can say about the extremely intense work culture in korea where people go out of their way to do overtime. hell, you can say this about like... every high school. every university. when i was in 11th & 12th grade, i used to only sleep for like 10-15 hours a week. i had to leave for school at 6:30 and only got home around 5-7 pm depending on the day because i had tutors for a couple of subjects i was struggling with. and then i spent like 6-7 hours doing homework and assignments and studying. and then i would choose to stay up later than i strictly had to anyway because i was a teenager so my body could handle it and if i didn't do anything fun i would've lost it. having an insane schedule isn't unique to idols lmao
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
However she can only speak for herself, idols all have different schedules with different intensity levels she has a lot of down time not just waiting time foe shows but also between comesbacks/tours. Ateez (who aren't even overworked just an example to show different schedules) we're on tour, produced music, recorded their mv, did promotions then went right back on tour again. They clearly had less time than Aespa who have months between their schedules most of the time. There are other idols rhat were going years before really getting re off, because every idols schedule is different fans are mad that she generalised and called idols liars even if that's not what she meant that is how it comes across.
@juulyeve4335
9 ай бұрын
But it isn't true for most idol's
@ani.xr2610 ай бұрын
Fans: Idols are so overworked😢 Idols: Actually, we're okay🙂👍 Fans: LIAR 🤬
@sarahyeates
10 ай бұрын
Fans just can't accept that they're wrong even when idols do prove them wrong, they still deny it
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
Wow exactly they act like they know more than the idols themselves lol so annoying
@Sam_824
10 ай бұрын
Bro how would “fans” understand that. She’s a K-pop member herself
@crimsonflower759
10 ай бұрын
True for her
@justme-qd6qb
10 ай бұрын
The thing is, she can say she's okay. She can speak for herself and probably her group, but she can't make that blanked statement for the whole industry. That's why people are mad, because she's indirectly calling idols who say they're not okay liars
@alwaysaroundproud10 ай бұрын
If your fave idol doesn't seemingly do anything but be an idol, they probably don't have hobbies or interests or even friend and that's sad
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
😭
@YoGirl-zj9lf10 ай бұрын
Of all the games out there, she really went for gardenscapes 😭
@jessicameggan388510 ай бұрын
This is proof that fans are insatiable and extreme to the point that no matter what the idols do they will be blamed and at fault. Karina stays honest and unbothered and im here for it queen
@ludwigneigl891
10 ай бұрын
But she lied in the first place. Now we dont know if she likes the game or if she have ever played the game. This is all mediaplay. An unbothered idol would just play the games she likes, together with their fans, without telling or braging to the public. Since she now clearified her lie i give her an better than the average idol but im not impressed. I dont know why utube recomended me this vid. 😅
@bnnyjay
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 are u fr?? part of an idols job is getting “close” to the fans or at least making them feel closer to u, why would she not mention the game shes been playing w her fans..😐 it’s not “bRaGgiNg” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 LMAO
@ludwigneigl891
10 ай бұрын
@@bnnyjay of course thats their job. but they dont need to try that hard and lie about things. she never played with her fans. she only lied about being one of the best players in the country while now she admitted in reality she basicly never played the game. and yes, saying your one of the best is braging, and if its not true its even lying. there are other idols we genuine like playing games without claming how good they are but instead they played whole night together with their fans. as i said. i think this is a much better and more honest way to communicate with your fans. i dont really think bad about her. i just dont think she should get praised for being honest since she wasnt.
@patchi6384
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 I thought what she meant as "lying" is the "free time idols have" not that she's playing the game. I don't even know if you understood the whole clip. She's just sharing something that a normal person ALSO share to people you want to feel close to, like, "Oh! I'm also one of the top players of tetris (or whatever game) in our area". It's not even bad. How do you even know she's lying with regards to playing the game?? It's not even mentioned in the video
@patchi6384
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 "try hard" and "lie"? What if she's one of the people who WANTS to be close to the people who appreciate and support her? And you're invalidating her efforts for it by saying that she's "trying hard" in a negative way? It's not even bad to try hard to get close to their fans. The lying part was not even about her playing the game, what she said is that idols lie that they don't have spare time. I don't know where you even got that she's not playing the game. Nooone would even know except her, her friends, her family, her sasaengs.
@PrincessBella2710 ай бұрын
Actually the aespa members are credited for some of their songs as lyricists. Karina’s recent solo song 'Menagerie' from their concert, she was credited as lyricist. So yes they do write their own songs too. 👍🏻
@AndroidDevil
10 ай бұрын
That's just one from all their discog, it's good to acknowledge contribution but don't call them songwriters or artists.
@ENGRtube
9 ай бұрын
nah, the only girl group that can be called actual song writers right now is (G)I-dle. Every single song by them after their debut album is written by Soyeon, Minnie and Yuqi as well as produced and arranged. Unless your group is doing that, they arent song writers lol sorry to tell you.
@ristocrats247
9 ай бұрын
@@ENGRtubethey are still writer.doing less doesn't take them aways from being writer lmao.maybe one day they will full song and you dont even know
@jannatsairakhan47299 ай бұрын
That's why I like Karina. She is so honest and genuine
@justlovely932210 ай бұрын
Why are people telling the actual KPOP IDOL that she’s wrong 💀
@reawi10 ай бұрын
But there are also other idols who have mentioned how idols do have free time like how waiting time is very long...netizens like hating on female idols
@tachiharakinnie10 ай бұрын
well she's not wrong tho, people think idols work everyday and that's literally illegal lol I'm sure it could be a very busy work but they do have free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
No one thinks idols work everyday but people think it’s like you get two/three days off and the rest of the days you work and that is probably how it is for most companies, she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@katgreer6113
10 ай бұрын
Nurses and surgeons work harder than idols yet they have personal life.
@xyzno1cancer10 ай бұрын
Idol work includes a lot of standing by, waiting, travel, and being somewhere for the sake of being there, so it makes sense they have a lot of time with nothing to do except being ready at a moment's notice, which is perfect for binge watching movies and grinding single-player games.
@Alya.20018 ай бұрын
THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANS AND HATERS FOR THE LAST HECKING TIME 😭😭
@MeiButterfly10 ай бұрын
I really hate it when people assume idols are way too free just because they don't release music. Aespa has been flying around the world for red carpet, Coachella, concerts and other events as well. Is this not part of their schedule? Jesus, knetz need to cut these idols some slack and leave them alone. They don't belong to us!
@michellel8516
10 ай бұрын
she just said she has a lot of free time tho .. thats the whole point of the video. she may not release music but she does have hella free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@michellel8516
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 exactly!! no one seems to be talking about this. idc that she has free time to do her things, its the way she claimed every other idol is lying. shes kind of downplaying idols who are actually busier than usual and dont have free time as much as her.
@thetruthuntold924
10 ай бұрын
@michellel8516 pls don't tell me you believe when idols say they are too busy to date. We all know idols' free time depends on their schedule and popularity and some idols do work like hell, but deny that being "busy" became a convenient excuse for idols is just stupid. It's funny that you got offended by the assumption of idols being liars when that is the only real truth. Idols be lying 70% of the time and that's okay, it's part of their job to deceive fans.
@alexandrahuang
10 ай бұрын
@@michellel8516you’re forgetting they spend hours getting hair and makeup done, so they can’t do much besides nap, talk, and be on their phone lol
@AriaShouldHaveBeenA10 ай бұрын
Idols say those things so they can have some privacy, she is kinda right
@areummae1343
10 ай бұрын
They don’t say that to have privacy they say that to gain sympathy in some companies even encourage it. I know this because my aunt works in the industry as a manager.
@AriaShouldHaveBeenA
10 ай бұрын
@@areummae1343 cool, I guess you know better
@mev9752
10 ай бұрын
Bts rapline chapter one would like to talk with you lol
@dolkarrrrr9 ай бұрын
shes so genuine love her
@microARGInism10 ай бұрын
I think the reason why she received backlash for what she said was because she made it seem like all the idols who said they're busy/don't have extra time were lying. Like the next time we hear an idol reveal they don't have time to play or watch a movie, we'll automatically assume they're lying.
@calvinyip36410 ай бұрын
She just being honest . Dont understand why the hate. I guess fans cant handle the truth even from other idols. I like how she tell truth and not lie.
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
???? What does this have to do with idols being humans, she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY theirs literal evidence I don’t have to work somewhere or be there to know things that’s why places like google exist
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY it’s literally a fact also I said she might get freedom but she shouldn’t be speaking for everyone
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY I didn’t say it means they get more freedom but in SM it does
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@mysseulgi I’m not speaking for anyone😬 in sm they get more freedom but get payed less it’s a literal fact
@jellafromthemoon10 ай бұрын
I think another idol said something like this too along the lines of companies/idols lying when they say idols are too busy for dating when in fact majority of idols have so much spare time for example when waiting for music show performances and they use that time for texting their boyfriends/girlfriends or secretly meeting with them
@ranikundu7529
10 ай бұрын
Too busy for dating usually implies that the company urged them to break up.
@kereenawithill181610 ай бұрын
Karina is honest deal with it 😂
@sunnysunoo16710 ай бұрын
idols can get hated for anything at this point 🤦♀️
@dibidibidis336710 ай бұрын
Karina is literally an idol, she sees first hand what an idols life looks like, but of course entitled fans thinks they know everything and what the actual idol says isn’t true because it leaves a slightly negative impression on there favs 🤷♀️
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
No she sees her experience and her experience isn't everyone's, that's why people are upset. Her comments were a generalisation at least that's how it comes off and just because she's experienced enough time to complete a game which takes hours upon hours doesn't mean every idol has had that same privilege. People are just saying she shouldn't talk for all idols based on her experience which is the truth in any situation.
@dibidibidis3367
9 ай бұрын
@@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs Ok but how would you know what other idols experiences are like?
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
@@dibidibidis3367 I never said I did, however there have ben idols that have stated they haven't had a break/are overworked and nobody can say they are lying unless thy know the idol personally.
@temp_408
9 ай бұрын
@@dibidibidis3367because other idols have spoken up about THEIR experiences and a lot of them have schedules that help to support and prove their claims. she has a bunch of free time, good for her, but her experience is NOT universal.
@moyiyyh10 ай бұрын
the logic is nonexistent because why the netizens start flamin her for bein real? and then get on mfs like wonyoung for being "fake". Istg it's jus never enough 🤦🏽♀️
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
How would she know what other idols go through ???? she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@moyiyyh
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 girl use common sense. obviously she didn't mean EVERYBODY, but it probably goes for quite a few idols and you act she said that for no reason? she's quite literally an idol and works with other idols I'm sure she isn't talking straight out her ass
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@moyiyyh no she said idols which means all idols
@euflair
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417kindly work on your reading comprehension
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@euflair what? She literally said most idols y’all are obviously dumb😭🙏
@nataliebarretto10 ай бұрын
Mark lee is typing…
@AA-wm2ty10 ай бұрын
A real woman. I love her for that
@wolfchannie837710 ай бұрын
Nah that's so messed up how everyone hated on her for saying such a simple thing. This is exactly why idols can't speak freely like normal people would.
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
Right?? Like do you want idols to practice 24/365 and only stop to eat, sleep, and use the restroom? Why are people fighting the truth so hard? I’m sure karina made this broad statement because she knows other idols who do the same thing as her. And they act like she said vacation or breaks. She said free time. Everyone has free time. 🤦🏽♀️
@heliaa1110 ай бұрын
Yall are saying that idols shouldnt overwork and when they dont overwork you hate them for 'not working enough'
@Maria-he1db
9 ай бұрын
They're not mad that she's not working enough, just that others may have busier schedules and not everyone may have the time to do things like she has.
@Ashley_Mo10 ай бұрын
I 100% thought this was an ad at the beginning 💀
@Wonhee_Lit26 күн бұрын
They’re literally releasing a new album in a month and a world tour 💀
@riannextdoor10 ай бұрын
it’s pretty known that idols get a day off at least once a week unless they’re on tour or something, & i’m sure as busy as they are they have a bit of free time out of their days. idols still go out & have fun like normal people when they’re not working. so she’s right in the sense that not all of them work 24/7
@lislac10 ай бұрын
Idols no matter their schedule will always have free time. What varries is how much free time they have and how they spend that free time. Although, during busier schedules they'll use that time to rest which make others say they don't have free time because they want that time for themselves.
@samanthakim503510 ай бұрын
Time management guys, *time management exists.*
@f4rensabri10 ай бұрын
idols from big companies usually do tours when they are not releasing new music or appear on music programs
@cynosure210 ай бұрын
While they are in hair and makeup or waiting for their turn to film or perform, they have time to play games like this.
@lailiecarrillo10 ай бұрын
she’s so real i love her
@chloesa448710 ай бұрын
Well...even during their comebacks, all the waiting in their waiting room...idols have hobbies too yknow.
@Missuuu85110 ай бұрын
Them saying idols don't have time, idols literally seen in public going to stores to party etc
@shinyminy9410 ай бұрын
and yall favs most definitely have time to date 🤣
@orizadhiazwanti934410 ай бұрын
yeah, tbh idol work is kinda periodical, when its time to cb promotion and tour, they'll be super busy, but after that finish they'll got a good rest, we even could see many idol usually get more time to visit several place when they're on tour, so if they had tour for 2 days, they'll stay in there for 3-4 days, except if they had other schedule/when their tour is near korea/in korea
@_Stay_with_me_10 ай бұрын
Every moms fav game😂😂
@TheRoseThorn10 ай бұрын
I thought this was an ad until the end lmao
@coogie.cookie10 ай бұрын
idk why but this was the cherry on top for making karina my bias😭 i just love her
@chimchimbiasedwreckedbyjin405610 ай бұрын
Why are they attacking this girl, she is the the industry and knows the behind the scenes and while I forget who it was maybe suga or rm of bts I remember another idol saying they do a lot of work in bulk and then they have a lot of free time idols do a large majority of their work or have the most packed schedules when they make a comeback because they have a lot of shoots and performances packed in but after that they are back on the slow grind because they record and learn choreography for months and have the occasional variety show shoot and vlive in and while in the beginning stages they may practice 8 hrs a day once they gain more experience those hours are halved and when the record they sing snippets at a time all the super hectic stuff like stage production,mv planning and more behind the scenes stuff is handled by staff and then they record the mv couple weeks before the comeback that edited and released and photo shoots are done around that time. So idols are busy but as karina has said they aren’t so busy they don’t have free time even idols who produce their own music enjoy doing it and have a in house team to help as well.
@Lewito10 ай бұрын
Fans finding out idols do standard working hours too is crazy
@Pray4Cilley10 ай бұрын
People in general lie when they tell you "im busy"
@random_cousins584510 ай бұрын
Why are people so mad that idols have lives that aren’t about their music and groups
@who-mo8qk11 ай бұрын
damn people really ate her up 😭
@rinkitty_core
10 ай бұрын
Ikr as if they know more about idol's life than Karina 💀
@cocogoat1238
10 ай бұрын
Let them cook for a moment 😂
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
they never have anything to do
@noturjiminjams._.9005
10 ай бұрын
it’s so dumb too cause the context to her whole statement was that idols have a lot of time while waiting to go on stage n backstage stuff
@thatwierdkid.10 ай бұрын
Pov: fans just realised Idols are humans and can have a normal life like everyone else.
@boomingbob157910 ай бұрын
She’s having fun being a pro gamer
@Nikita-xl5vr10 ай бұрын
Some people don't understand that idols do get time in between shots, and working on music isn't like school where you can't be on your phone. It's just that they don't spend as much time at home as they do outside. Dance practices are also like this. It might not be the case for rookies.
@user-m__10 ай бұрын
They really out there acting like she's not an actual kpop idol who lives the behind scenes life and actually knows what's happening. But no, they know better
@StrayKidttv10 ай бұрын
Even though they are hella busy during comebacks, idols really do have a lot of down time because there’s a lot of waiting.
@okwhatever4952 ай бұрын
Fans when idols lie: 🔪🔪🔪🔪 Fans when idols tell the truth: 🤮🤮🔪🔪🔪
@ieatchildrenkneecaps10 ай бұрын
Idols get exhausted and get tired even groups like skz who promotes continuous and has to work on every song gets free time here and there. They travel alot maybe during a break after a comeback promotions stops they may not get physical rest but mental rest I mean where do you think they make memes and get their creativity or react to fans work or other idols work
@Emxtional_10 ай бұрын
ah karina is so far along I’m only level 1598 :((
@la536927 күн бұрын
Her and mina can hang out and be gamer buddies 😂 so cute.
@haerincore.457210 ай бұрын
crazy how they say "don't generalize idols" like they are the ones who know how idol's live. Karina would know more than them and they are still denying it for what?
@skz_stay._.10 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY LOVE GARDENSCAPES.
@milftea10 ай бұрын
we have reached to a point where netizens are fansplaining idol life to an idol oh god we're in hell.
@ratcuisine9 ай бұрын
okay but that lie is so funny lol
@user-gt4pp6ld1p10 ай бұрын
DUDE HAVE YOU SEEN CHANS dark circles
@shafiandpritha770110 ай бұрын
People like sweet talks like lie but when it comes of truth everyone turn their back on.......Karina slay
@anniewinsor368410 ай бұрын
yall realize that as soon as promotions for one album is done they immediately start working on another one right? they have breaks and that's why comebacks are like 6 months apart and not 3 weeks
@BoraBox78 ай бұрын
i mean she still shouldn't have said and generalised that all idols have that ability because they dont, but netizens obviously are wrong in anything they say 90% of the time
@user-zz3ie8uu3o10 ай бұрын
This may be the case for the big 4 or successful idols but for nugu groups from smaller companies it’s not the case. They’re overworked to the bone and don’t have time to eat and sleep let alone to play games. Nugu idols do promotions for months straight with no break and then u have these big idols that do 3 stages or even 1 and that’s it for their promotions.
@sexypancake110 ай бұрын
I think the reality is probably that idols don’t have a ton of free time, but they do have a lot of dead time, ie time while riding around in vehicles, sitting in waiting rooms and make up chairs, and on airplanes. Pretty much the only option they have is to read a book, watch a video on their phone, or play a video game. Makes sense.
@SBBunny93
10 ай бұрын
Then what do you call that time in between comebacks/albums/appearances/performances?
@vipwirelesscominthru10 ай бұрын
And then there’s my mom over there just chilling while being past lvl 13000(it’s technically supposed to be more since she had lost all her progress many times). I tell you, she’s a literal GOD when it comes to that game. Karina’s 9000 lvls shows that she has some good skills and/or dedication 😆👍
@RayMak10 ай бұрын
It really depends on individual…
@zee16610 ай бұрын
she's so true bout that, some idols said the same thing
Пікірлер: 2 000
Fans when idols are overworked: 🤬 Fans when idols get time off work like they’re supposed to: 🤬
@heliaa11
10 ай бұрын
SO TRUE
@randomuaena2859
10 ай бұрын
Fr
@sarahyeates
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like it
@jx86xj
10 ай бұрын
They are bad fans
@mikaela000
10 ай бұрын
It's almost as if they're romanticizing them so much if their lifestyle doesn't fit their imaginary (mostly miserable) picture they get upset. A very interesting thing really. Couldn't imagine being idolized.
SM was literally sued many times for overworking their idols and now we are complaining that aespa has a healthy work schedule? For real?
@snowminL485
10 ай бұрын
Only problem is here SM overworked their boy groups,but ggs gets minimal... That's all.
@blurryface5744
10 ай бұрын
kpop "fans" none of these care about the idols. They're looking for something to hate about.
@audrayliar7480
10 ай бұрын
I don't think the complaining was about them having a healthy work schedule. The complaining was more directed towards Karina specifially for saying other idols would lie when saying they don't have time bc others probably often don't have healthy work schedules and/or have other shit going on too. Saying something like she said just seems really privileged. I don't know her really but she probably just said it without really thinking about the implications, maybe she even said it light heartedly as a joke (I don't know the original clip so I don't know) But yeah, tldr I think the complaining is not about her work schedule but about her assuming others have it "as easy as her"
@fabi4183
10 ай бұрын
@@audrayliar7480 i mean, it definitely wasn't as deep as people are making it out to be. context matters a lot, she said it after showing she finished the last level of a little mobile game, that's where her free time goes, every idol can potentially get SOME free time to do a silly little relaxing activity like playing a mobile game once in a while, even if they're overworked because let's be fr they're not gonna pull them off from music shows right away just to keep going with other stuff, i believe for the most part they stay through the whole broadcast and they should have free time backstage
@hanjesse31
10 ай бұрын
When you are not a gamer you wouldn't understand the time and dedicatio to finish a game
nayeon says it too, she said that they have a lot of time between comebacks even if it seems short, and that they are very bored
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
They're pros in time management now so they have free time even with their busy schedules.✨ Probably got so used to being busy that they get bored when there's no work.😂
@Vor567tez
18 күн бұрын
I mean it's job just like any other. I don't see what's unusual about her saying that. Many people after finishing their job play games. Beside gaming is addictive. You can play whole night even if tired.
"Netizens" don't exist. It's 2 twitter accounts with 3 followers between them, posting crap for attention
@wearmeout1
9 ай бұрын
they’re talking about korean netizens and there are entire websites dedicated to translating their comments
@faceofvision
4 ай бұрын
Just because someone is jobless enough to translate those comments doesn't make them any more valid or relevant, I can say any shit I want to, but kpop stans somehow decided that shit talkers get some relevance just because they are Korean @@wearmeout1
Y’all wanna know a fun fact…..idols don’t work 24/7 even if their group has a lot of comebacks and they write their own songs! 😀
@AriaShouldHaveBeenA
10 ай бұрын
Except they work for Jyp
@fearstayland
10 ай бұрын
not skz and gidle tho yall stay safe 😵💫
@asxtro7145
10 ай бұрын
@@fearstaylandgirl include Twice in your list. Twice is THE busiest girl group.
@eleventwelve2650
10 ай бұрын
It depends how popular an idol is. If you're a "side character" then you have time while the comeback is still being made.
@mordecaiissad8529
10 ай бұрын
@@eleventwelve2650lso most idols are really busy only in short periods during promotions. A lot of work around the comeback is done a lot earlier even if they self produce and even when they are busy most of their schedules are a lot of waiting. Regularly even if they had 8h workdays (a lot can be done in K-pop in 8h cause idols schedules aren't really involved in staging or editing) that still leaves a lot of time to do whatever with your day.
karina really FINISHED my most hated game *gardenscapes*
@YosemiOveri136
10 ай бұрын
LMAO honestly I don’t play it but is the game good?
@__chatnwaaaaar
10 ай бұрын
This game is my favorite 🥲
@__chatnwaaaaar
10 ай бұрын
@@YosemiOveri136yes it is good !!!
@YosemiOveri136
10 ай бұрын
@@__chatnwaaaaar Ok!!
@wuraolababalola6301
10 ай бұрын
It's good but I prefer homescapes
*idol gets a busy schedule* "stop overworking them, they are humans too, give them a break" *idols do human things* "you're just lazy, you don't work as hard as others"
@crispiio
10 ай бұрын
lmao
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
This is so correct like I don't know what's wrong with netizens
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
True. Lmao. I'm happy when idols have their hobbies that let them relax from work.
netizens get so mad when they know that their faves are just people in the end 😭
Fun fact: almost everyone that works also has a lot of free time in between shifts. Everyone has some amount of free time.
@spotlightpalette2352
10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@udiana2887
10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Idols usually have breaks while waiting for their turn to perform during promotions so they can have enough energy to perform well on stage. I remember this one ep where a show about The Manager. That show shows managers' of celebs showed a life of how managers manage their celebs. Seventeen literally had breaks and even napped in their waiting room as they started their day in the wee hours. They're not FULLY busy, they just had small breaks here and there to keep them fresh and have enough rest for them.
@hyukleberry5567
10 ай бұрын
!!! Groups only get hella busy when they're doing comeback promotions or touring.
@hycklver1967
10 ай бұрын
Nah man not mark and haechan lol
@aleleliah
10 ай бұрын
@hycklver1967 this is the only idols I can full on agree on them being way too busy, if u think abt it they kind of have 2 full time jobs for being in 2 active groups
Karina seems to be so real which is triggering some cause they want to believe their faves are too busy being idols instead of you know being humans
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@reeses_unicorn
10 ай бұрын
I'll never get that logic. My favorite idols tend to be the ones who seem the most real to me.
@lulu_Lm
10 ай бұрын
real? she's 80% plastic.
@saltyriz7734
10 ай бұрын
@@lulu_Lmstay mad bc shes pretty and rich still
@tyraofosu2940
9 ай бұрын
@@lulu_Lmwhy are you even here? 💀 find something better to do
The only idols I truly believe don't have any free time are NCT Mark and Haechan... they are so busy Haechan didn't even have time to go to the doctor
@ashketchup4149
7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah I remember that ,it's just so sad .And speaking of Haechan case he haven't even been able to release solo music bcoz of his tough schedule .
Karina stays goated. She was being playful, hope she speaks her mind more often and cause these twirps to lose their mind even more.
i love karina tbh she’s so real, ppl need to leave her alone
@aiko-dk2is
10 ай бұрын
fr😭
@wonyoungdefender
10 ай бұрын
@@SlinkyStinky453 i dont see how that’s a problem? many idols get ps,, im sure your favs have too.
@haerincore.4572
10 ай бұрын
@@SlinkyStinky453said that for what 💀 you sound jealous, nothing wrong with plastic surgery. Don't hate because of your insecurities
@unitydestiny
10 ай бұрын
@@haerincore.4572 facts! i don't even know why this person even said that out of nowhere 😭 they sound so jealous of karina's beauty ..
@-thecooloreo-6510
10 ай бұрын
I love her sm for that
Karina: Idols are people too y'know The same deranged ppl that like to complain about everything: how dare you?! You just don't work hard enough. By that logic blackpink is having the vacation of their lives. Even Felix from SKZ has said he spends hours on tiktok. Y'all just like complaining about everything
@CharlotteMayJane
10 ай бұрын
But Blackpink members have been on a world tour for 9 months..
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
@@CharlotteMayJaneyeah, but they had like 2 years of hiatus, even tho they became a brand model, they had more time to relax
@CharlotteMayJane
10 ай бұрын
@@orizadhiazwanti9344 oh yes!
@saniqueburke1742
10 ай бұрын
Blackpink is on no vacation they are still on tour the sad thing is yg has the nerve to just to put on stage for the first time in 2022 if you think blackpink doesnt get mistreated your wrong
@ONLYS3LMA
10 ай бұрын
@@orizadhiazwanti9344blackpink we’re working on projects
What happens is that idols tend to have both: -When there's comeback they literally have no time between practice, promotions and everything and thy sleep very little. -But in between comebacks they have months of complete inactivity where they have all day free.
she's so real for this, idols say they don't have free time because they don't want fans to know what they do with it (which is perfectly reasonable)
Fans know more about idol's life than Karina herself 🙃
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
what do you mean by that
@cbcimutebi5564
10 ай бұрын
@@lexie485The fans are saying that what Karina is saying about kpop idols is wrong even tho Karina is literally one and the fans are not
@chungee
10 ай бұрын
@@lexie485the comment is sarcastic, saying that the fans believe they know more about being and idol other than an actual idol. The comment is basically saying that “fans” are delusional
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
ohhh, thanks, I get it now
@orion5445
10 ай бұрын
Imagine people who never did your job telling you what it's like to do your job.
Karina: idols have free time to do fun stuff Some people on Twitter: HOW DARE YOU, DON’T GENERALIZE
@stefanustanudjaja5029
9 ай бұрын
Perhaps it may overrides the attention on idols who was not as lucky
@viclusiv
9 ай бұрын
LMAO
@Maria-he1db
9 ай бұрын
Karina: They're lying when they say they don't have time to do certain things Some people on twitter: Don't generalize
@ristocrats247
9 ай бұрын
Literally theyre many idol whose life doesn't job and they are quite unlucky in industry so why the sensitivity? Its not entirely wrong tho
Everytime an idol spills tea people criticize them cuz they cannot handle truth😂😂
I've realized that fans doesn't actually care about idols health and safety. This shows it all right here.
gotta stan a top 1% gardenscapes queen
@sagisdoodleverse9696
10 ай бұрын
I used to play gardenscapes religiously
@user-rq8pe7vw8t
9 ай бұрын
I may not be a fan of hers but I'm amaze how she got to that level. My mom likes to play that game
@la5369
27 күн бұрын
Casually being top 1% in her free time ✨
fans :- idols are humans too idols start interacting with people like humans fans :- 😠😠😡😡🤬🤬
@M-imi...
10 ай бұрын
OmG tHeY sLePt ToGeThEr😱😱
@jisungiee810
10 ай бұрын
Lmao😂
@Ionlyeatchipzeveryday
10 ай бұрын
FR its really annoying
@okay_time2go
10 ай бұрын
fr like at this point what do they want
@randomuaena2859
10 ай бұрын
Fr
lol you just cut her saying short. she said idols spend so much time on moving between venue and waiting. that is when she has her freetime
@cloudsn
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! The comments in here are wild. Every idol works hard, but of course they have downtime.
her words makes total sense. we barely see idols progress over time which would be different if they were constantly working.
Even svt who has so many scheduled and making their own music and dance have time to have fun, meeting friends, playing Lego or watch anime. It just depends on how you manage your time. And company isn't deranged enough to really work a person 24/7. They're busy, yes. But human adapt. And circumstances aren't always the same. Sometimes the schedule will be super tight, sometimes it's not. so many things are prerecorded too. You'd think it's everyday things but it's 3-4 days of crazy schedule, then rest time. Idols also have treatment day, imagine if they're so busy they can't even go to dermatologist or hospitals for their frequent check up, etc etc. Their smooth glass skin isn't freely given since birth. What I'm trying to say is, it's silly to condemn karina just to spit some fact. Even if the fact isn't currently applied to your faves, but who knows. You're not in the business.
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
yeah tbh, imo idol had kinda period time of busy, so during the cb promotion and tour they'll be super busy, but after that they'll had a time off bcz they dont had any schedule
@jiaverse
10 ай бұрын
But even you said it it might not apply to everyone’s favs so why is Karina making a blanket statement? It’s okay if she says oh i have time to do whatever or aespa has time to do whatever but why is she saying all idols have time and if not they’re lying??? some are doing stuff like full on tours and comebacks at the same time, even if you have free time then you’d be too exhausted to do anything…
@sultoni9719
10 ай бұрын
@@jiaversewell it's up to their choice whether their free time be used for sleeping, resting, gaming, etc, people heals differently, so karina is still right, that idols have freetime too like us, they dont work 24/7. During busy (comebacks and tours) schedule, there's wait time in between sets, being on a bus, etc, it's their free time during busy schedule, it depends on how they use it, and karina for example knows how to utilize it. Dont forget after a comeback they can rest for a while until the next comeback
@anizeer
10 ай бұрын
Wonwoo too plays game in Weverse Live.
@orizadhiazwanti9344
10 ай бұрын
@@jiaverse if u really heard their story from live or at least in show, they do reveal they often hang out with their friend, and even their concert era a lot of fans sometimes meet the idol in shopping area/other public place just walk around and enjoyed their day, and its clear its their time off, and its even came from busiest idol nowdays like straykids, seventeen, TXT even blackpink, they do had time off, the company isnt that cruel to not let them enjoyed live, tbh trainee is the one who didnt had break time but after becoming an idol, they usually only got holiday during weekend and somtimes they still went to company to train bcz they feel they arent that good yet, its definitely more relaxing than become trainee
kpop idols spend most of their time waiting in green room for music shows, waiting time before concerts, and in plane when traveling like yes they do have free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies. Also no one said they didn’t have free time but she’s acting like Kpop idols get months off of work
@taeilsays
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 except she never said that lmaoooo gtfo
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@taeilsays what? She said that it’s a lie that celebrities don’t have time to do things
@frfars
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417she don’t even say ‘how much’ free time kpop idols have. But you make it too serious with your thought 😭 MOA better spread positive vibe and don’t throw hates, thank you ❤❤
@justme-qd6qb
10 ай бұрын
I don't feel like waiting time counts as quality free time, I certainly don't regard waiting in for the Docters waiting room or bus or in line at a grocery store etc as leisure time for myself
I’m loving her more and more because I first thought she was a just a pretty but now as she talks and shows her personality she is very interesting and more genuine that other template idols
@8luvbug
2 ай бұрын
Oh please even the so called real idols are fake
I love how people really think idols don’t have time. If that’s the case they wouldn’t be catching flights to appear at different brand parties and events. Making music or not they have time. Even seohyun of SNSD even admitted to writing a song while she was out on a hike. She said the lyrics came to her once she got to the top of the mountain. No one in this world works 24/7
She’s real for that 😂
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
How
@makanyamnyam
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417for being ordinary people and opened up about herself, that's how
@8luvbug
2 ай бұрын
Generalizing others doesn't make her real. Haechan said he's so busy that he doesn't have time to go to the doctor. Do you really think he's lying about that?
@sicatsz
Ай бұрын
@@8luvbugshe’s obviously not talking about everybody and if you’re apart of the dumbass group of people slow enough to believe that that’s YOUR problem.
@0-0_kyh16
18 күн бұрын
@@8luvbug???? From my perspective, I’m getting swamped by assignments and can’t leave my house but I have time to reach level 5000 on my mobile game. She’s real cause I relate to her.
One of the most realistic idol. My god i love her
@Dark0n3_Plays
10 ай бұрын
she dose get backlash for visuals but see is def real for exposing idols of there free time i mean shhh some dont say they have free time just to do nothing and its not generlizing idols if they all have time things to do when its most of the time them walking or do nothing really and hang out
@nightowleditz_official
10 ай бұрын
Aespa didn't even cry on first ever award lol there so realistic
@katgreer6113
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_officialexactly.
@saltyriz7734
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_officialso kpop idols who do cry during wins arent?
@Dark0n3_Plays
10 ай бұрын
@@nightowleditz_official i didn't for my first championship so we all have different way to express gratitude for something crying is what people do most of the times because they don't expect it aespa expected it there really popular because of the company and the promotions
Dongpyo said the same thing lmao the amount of time they stay in their changing rooms waiting for their turn in music shows and filming mvs or variety shows makes a great percentage of their entire work schedule
it’s actually true y’all… so many idols are very jobless most of the time 😭 i am related to one (not gonna name them for obvious reasons) but they’re constantly chatting with their friends on instagram and they are friends with many international celebrities
Why are they so mad? Karina, an Idol for 3 years knows what its truly like. She went through training and even knows what to do in the music videos. But after that, she also knows that all idols do get a few breaks. She knows what an idol experiences. Why are some no-life fans with no responsibilities focusing on her words instead of focusing on theirself?
@Arcessitor
10 ай бұрын
They're mad because she says "Idols (general) have free time," when people know this isn't true for a lot of idols.
@davidlick1
10 ай бұрын
@@Arcessitoru dumb, it is true for all the idols Or are they robots that dont need free time? Like a real human? No one is saying their schedule is easy, but for sure they have those moments of free time, they are HUMANS u know?
@ishathakor
10 ай бұрын
@@Arcessitor idols (general) DO have free time lmao. no matter how overworked they are they still have the "off" season (when they aren't preparing for a comeback) and even preparing for/doing a comeback has a lot of free or "free" time baked into it. idols spend the entire day waiting in green rooms to go out and spend like 30 minutes recording a performance. that's still free time, even if you can't do everything you want - it's a break at work. they can watch stuff on their phones, scroll on tiktok, play games, read books, call their friends and family, whatever they want (as long as they dont mess up their hair and makeup, presumably). definitely i don't think a lot of idol schedules are healthy or sustainable. but this is also something you can say about the extremely intense work culture in korea where people go out of their way to do overtime. hell, you can say this about like... every high school. every university. when i was in 11th & 12th grade, i used to only sleep for like 10-15 hours a week. i had to leave for school at 6:30 and only got home around 5-7 pm depending on the day because i had tutors for a couple of subjects i was struggling with. and then i spent like 6-7 hours doing homework and assignments and studying. and then i would choose to stay up later than i strictly had to anyway because i was a teenager so my body could handle it and if i didn't do anything fun i would've lost it. having an insane schedule isn't unique to idols lmao
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
However she can only speak for herself, idols all have different schedules with different intensity levels she has a lot of down time not just waiting time foe shows but also between comesbacks/tours. Ateez (who aren't even overworked just an example to show different schedules) we're on tour, produced music, recorded their mv, did promotions then went right back on tour again. They clearly had less time than Aespa who have months between their schedules most of the time. There are other idols rhat were going years before really getting re off, because every idols schedule is different fans are mad that she generalised and called idols liars even if that's not what she meant that is how it comes across.
@juulyeve4335
9 ай бұрын
But it isn't true for most idol's
Fans: Idols are so overworked😢 Idols: Actually, we're okay🙂👍 Fans: LIAR 🤬
@sarahyeates
10 ай бұрын
Fans just can't accept that they're wrong even when idols do prove them wrong, they still deny it
@AminataJallow-vh6es
10 ай бұрын
Wow exactly they act like they know more than the idols themselves lol so annoying
@Sam_824
10 ай бұрын
Bro how would “fans” understand that. She’s a K-pop member herself
@crimsonflower759
10 ай бұрын
True for her
@justme-qd6qb
10 ай бұрын
The thing is, she can say she's okay. She can speak for herself and probably her group, but she can't make that blanked statement for the whole industry. That's why people are mad, because she's indirectly calling idols who say they're not okay liars
If your fave idol doesn't seemingly do anything but be an idol, they probably don't have hobbies or interests or even friend and that's sad
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
😭
Of all the games out there, she really went for gardenscapes 😭
This is proof that fans are insatiable and extreme to the point that no matter what the idols do they will be blamed and at fault. Karina stays honest and unbothered and im here for it queen
@ludwigneigl891
10 ай бұрын
But she lied in the first place. Now we dont know if she likes the game or if she have ever played the game. This is all mediaplay. An unbothered idol would just play the games she likes, together with their fans, without telling or braging to the public. Since she now clearified her lie i give her an better than the average idol but im not impressed. I dont know why utube recomended me this vid. 😅
@bnnyjay
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 are u fr?? part of an idols job is getting “close” to the fans or at least making them feel closer to u, why would she not mention the game shes been playing w her fans..😐 it’s not “bRaGgiNg” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 LMAO
@ludwigneigl891
10 ай бұрын
@@bnnyjay of course thats their job. but they dont need to try that hard and lie about things. she never played with her fans. she only lied about being one of the best players in the country while now she admitted in reality she basicly never played the game. and yes, saying your one of the best is braging, and if its not true its even lying. there are other idols we genuine like playing games without claming how good they are but instead they played whole night together with their fans. as i said. i think this is a much better and more honest way to communicate with your fans. i dont really think bad about her. i just dont think she should get praised for being honest since she wasnt.
@patchi6384
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 I thought what she meant as "lying" is the "free time idols have" not that she's playing the game. I don't even know if you understood the whole clip. She's just sharing something that a normal person ALSO share to people you want to feel close to, like, "Oh! I'm also one of the top players of tetris (or whatever game) in our area". It's not even bad. How do you even know she's lying with regards to playing the game?? It's not even mentioned in the video
@patchi6384
10 ай бұрын
@@ludwigneigl891 "try hard" and "lie"? What if she's one of the people who WANTS to be close to the people who appreciate and support her? And you're invalidating her efforts for it by saying that she's "trying hard" in a negative way? It's not even bad to try hard to get close to their fans. The lying part was not even about her playing the game, what she said is that idols lie that they don't have spare time. I don't know where you even got that she's not playing the game. Nooone would even know except her, her friends, her family, her sasaengs.
Actually the aespa members are credited for some of their songs as lyricists. Karina’s recent solo song 'Menagerie' from their concert, she was credited as lyricist. So yes they do write their own songs too. 👍🏻
@AndroidDevil
10 ай бұрын
That's just one from all their discog, it's good to acknowledge contribution but don't call them songwriters or artists.
@ENGRtube
9 ай бұрын
nah, the only girl group that can be called actual song writers right now is (G)I-dle. Every single song by them after their debut album is written by Soyeon, Minnie and Yuqi as well as produced and arranged. Unless your group is doing that, they arent song writers lol sorry to tell you.
@ristocrats247
9 ай бұрын
@@ENGRtubethey are still writer.doing less doesn't take them aways from being writer lmao.maybe one day they will full song and you dont even know
That's why I like Karina. She is so honest and genuine
Why are people telling the actual KPOP IDOL that she’s wrong 💀
But there are also other idols who have mentioned how idols do have free time like how waiting time is very long...netizens like hating on female idols
well she's not wrong tho, people think idols work everyday and that's literally illegal lol I'm sure it could be a very busy work but they do have free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
No one thinks idols work everyday but people think it’s like you get two/three days off and the rest of the days you work and that is probably how it is for most companies, she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@katgreer6113
10 ай бұрын
Nurses and surgeons work harder than idols yet they have personal life.
Idol work includes a lot of standing by, waiting, travel, and being somewhere for the sake of being there, so it makes sense they have a lot of time with nothing to do except being ready at a moment's notice, which is perfect for binge watching movies and grinding single-player games.
THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANS AND HATERS FOR THE LAST HECKING TIME 😭😭
I really hate it when people assume idols are way too free just because they don't release music. Aespa has been flying around the world for red carpet, Coachella, concerts and other events as well. Is this not part of their schedule? Jesus, knetz need to cut these idols some slack and leave them alone. They don't belong to us!
@michellel8516
10 ай бұрын
she just said she has a lot of free time tho .. thats the whole point of the video. she may not release music but she does have hella free time
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@michellel8516
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 exactly!! no one seems to be talking about this. idc that she has free time to do her things, its the way she claimed every other idol is lying. shes kind of downplaying idols who are actually busier than usual and dont have free time as much as her.
@thetruthuntold924
10 ай бұрын
@michellel8516 pls don't tell me you believe when idols say they are too busy to date. We all know idols' free time depends on their schedule and popularity and some idols do work like hell, but deny that being "busy" became a convenient excuse for idols is just stupid. It's funny that you got offended by the assumption of idols being liars when that is the only real truth. Idols be lying 70% of the time and that's okay, it's part of their job to deceive fans.
@alexandrahuang
10 ай бұрын
@@michellel8516you’re forgetting they spend hours getting hair and makeup done, so they can’t do much besides nap, talk, and be on their phone lol
Idols say those things so they can have some privacy, she is kinda right
@areummae1343
10 ай бұрын
They don’t say that to have privacy they say that to gain sympathy in some companies even encourage it. I know this because my aunt works in the industry as a manager.
@AriaShouldHaveBeenA
10 ай бұрын
@@areummae1343 cool, I guess you know better
@mev9752
10 ай бұрын
Bts rapline chapter one would like to talk with you lol
shes so genuine love her
I think the reason why she received backlash for what she said was because she made it seem like all the idols who said they're busy/don't have extra time were lying. Like the next time we hear an idol reveal they don't have time to play or watch a movie, we'll automatically assume they're lying.
She just being honest . Dont understand why the hate. I guess fans cant handle the truth even from other idols. I like how she tell truth and not lie.
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
???? What does this have to do with idols being humans, she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY theirs literal evidence I don’t have to work somewhere or be there to know things that’s why places like google exist
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY it’s literally a fact also I said she might get freedom but she shouldn’t be speaking for everyone
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@LOVER1CKY I didn’t say it means they get more freedom but in SM it does
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@mysseulgi I’m not speaking for anyone😬 in sm they get more freedom but get payed less it’s a literal fact
I think another idol said something like this too along the lines of companies/idols lying when they say idols are too busy for dating when in fact majority of idols have so much spare time for example when waiting for music show performances and they use that time for texting their boyfriends/girlfriends or secretly meeting with them
@ranikundu7529
10 ай бұрын
Too busy for dating usually implies that the company urged them to break up.
Karina is honest deal with it 😂
idols can get hated for anything at this point 🤦♀️
Karina is literally an idol, she sees first hand what an idols life looks like, but of course entitled fans thinks they know everything and what the actual idol says isn’t true because it leaves a slightly negative impression on there favs 🤷♀️
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
No she sees her experience and her experience isn't everyone's, that's why people are upset. Her comments were a generalisation at least that's how it comes off and just because she's experienced enough time to complete a game which takes hours upon hours doesn't mean every idol has had that same privilege. People are just saying she shouldn't talk for all idols based on her experience which is the truth in any situation.
@dibidibidis3367
9 ай бұрын
@@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs Ok but how would you know what other idols experiences are like?
@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs
9 ай бұрын
@@dibidibidis3367 I never said I did, however there have ben idols that have stated they haven't had a break/are overworked and nobody can say they are lying unless thy know the idol personally.
@temp_408
9 ай бұрын
@@dibidibidis3367because other idols have spoken up about THEIR experiences and a lot of them have schedules that help to support and prove their claims. she has a bunch of free time, good for her, but her experience is NOT universal.
the logic is nonexistent because why the netizens start flamin her for bein real? and then get on mfs like wonyoung for being "fake". Istg it's jus never enough 🤦🏽♀️
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
How would she know what other idols go through ???? she shouldn’t be speaking for all idols SM groups barely get paid but get A LOT more freedom unlike other companies.
@moyiyyh
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417 girl use common sense. obviously she didn't mean EVERYBODY, but it probably goes for quite a few idols and you act she said that for no reason? she's quite literally an idol and works with other idols I'm sure she isn't talking straight out her ass
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@moyiyyh no she said idols which means all idols
@euflair
10 ай бұрын
@@soobinlove4417kindly work on your reading comprehension
@soobinlove4417
10 ай бұрын
@@euflair what? She literally said most idols y’all are obviously dumb😭🙏
Mark lee is typing…
A real woman. I love her for that
Nah that's so messed up how everyone hated on her for saying such a simple thing. This is exactly why idols can't speak freely like normal people would.
@luckygirl0303
9 ай бұрын
Right?? Like do you want idols to practice 24/365 and only stop to eat, sleep, and use the restroom? Why are people fighting the truth so hard? I’m sure karina made this broad statement because she knows other idols who do the same thing as her. And they act like she said vacation or breaks. She said free time. Everyone has free time. 🤦🏽♀️
Yall are saying that idols shouldnt overwork and when they dont overwork you hate them for 'not working enough'
@Maria-he1db
9 ай бұрын
They're not mad that she's not working enough, just that others may have busier schedules and not everyone may have the time to do things like she has.
I 100% thought this was an ad at the beginning 💀
They’re literally releasing a new album in a month and a world tour 💀
it’s pretty known that idols get a day off at least once a week unless they’re on tour or something, & i’m sure as busy as they are they have a bit of free time out of their days. idols still go out & have fun like normal people when they’re not working. so she’s right in the sense that not all of them work 24/7
Idols no matter their schedule will always have free time. What varries is how much free time they have and how they spend that free time. Although, during busier schedules they'll use that time to rest which make others say they don't have free time because they want that time for themselves.
Time management guys, *time management exists.*
idols from big companies usually do tours when they are not releasing new music or appear on music programs
While they are in hair and makeup or waiting for their turn to film or perform, they have time to play games like this.
she’s so real i love her
Well...even during their comebacks, all the waiting in their waiting room...idols have hobbies too yknow.
Them saying idols don't have time, idols literally seen in public going to stores to party etc
and yall favs most definitely have time to date 🤣
yeah, tbh idol work is kinda periodical, when its time to cb promotion and tour, they'll be super busy, but after that finish they'll got a good rest, we even could see many idol usually get more time to visit several place when they're on tour, so if they had tour for 2 days, they'll stay in there for 3-4 days, except if they had other schedule/when their tour is near korea/in korea
Every moms fav game😂😂
I thought this was an ad until the end lmao
idk why but this was the cherry on top for making karina my bias😭 i just love her
Why are they attacking this girl, she is the the industry and knows the behind the scenes and while I forget who it was maybe suga or rm of bts I remember another idol saying they do a lot of work in bulk and then they have a lot of free time idols do a large majority of their work or have the most packed schedules when they make a comeback because they have a lot of shoots and performances packed in but after that they are back on the slow grind because they record and learn choreography for months and have the occasional variety show shoot and vlive in and while in the beginning stages they may practice 8 hrs a day once they gain more experience those hours are halved and when the record they sing snippets at a time all the super hectic stuff like stage production,mv planning and more behind the scenes stuff is handled by staff and then they record the mv couple weeks before the comeback that edited and released and photo shoots are done around that time. So idols are busy but as karina has said they aren’t so busy they don’t have free time even idols who produce their own music enjoy doing it and have a in house team to help as well.
Fans finding out idols do standard working hours too is crazy
People in general lie when they tell you "im busy"
Why are people so mad that idols have lives that aren’t about their music and groups
damn people really ate her up 😭
@rinkitty_core
10 ай бұрын
Ikr as if they know more about idol's life than Karina 💀
@cocogoat1238
10 ай бұрын
Let them cook for a moment 😂
@lexie485
10 ай бұрын
they never have anything to do
@noturjiminjams._.9005
10 ай бұрын
it’s so dumb too cause the context to her whole statement was that idols have a lot of time while waiting to go on stage n backstage stuff
Pov: fans just realised Idols are humans and can have a normal life like everyone else.
She’s having fun being a pro gamer
Some people don't understand that idols do get time in between shots, and working on music isn't like school where you can't be on your phone. It's just that they don't spend as much time at home as they do outside. Dance practices are also like this. It might not be the case for rookies.
They really out there acting like she's not an actual kpop idol who lives the behind scenes life and actually knows what's happening. But no, they know better
Even though they are hella busy during comebacks, idols really do have a lot of down time because there’s a lot of waiting.
Fans when idols lie: 🔪🔪🔪🔪 Fans when idols tell the truth: 🤮🤮🔪🔪🔪
Idols get exhausted and get tired even groups like skz who promotes continuous and has to work on every song gets free time here and there. They travel alot maybe during a break after a comeback promotions stops they may not get physical rest but mental rest I mean where do you think they make memes and get their creativity or react to fans work or other idols work
ah karina is so far along I’m only level 1598 :((
Her and mina can hang out and be gamer buddies 😂 so cute.
crazy how they say "don't generalize idols" like they are the ones who know how idol's live. Karina would know more than them and they are still denying it for what?
I LITERALLY LOVE GARDENSCAPES.
we have reached to a point where netizens are fansplaining idol life to an idol oh god we're in hell.
okay but that lie is so funny lol
DUDE HAVE YOU SEEN CHANS dark circles
People like sweet talks like lie but when it comes of truth everyone turn their back on.......Karina slay
yall realize that as soon as promotions for one album is done they immediately start working on another one right? they have breaks and that's why comebacks are like 6 months apart and not 3 weeks
i mean she still shouldn't have said and generalised that all idols have that ability because they dont, but netizens obviously are wrong in anything they say 90% of the time
This may be the case for the big 4 or successful idols but for nugu groups from smaller companies it’s not the case. They’re overworked to the bone and don’t have time to eat and sleep let alone to play games. Nugu idols do promotions for months straight with no break and then u have these big idols that do 3 stages or even 1 and that’s it for their promotions.
I think the reality is probably that idols don’t have a ton of free time, but they do have a lot of dead time, ie time while riding around in vehicles, sitting in waiting rooms and make up chairs, and on airplanes. Pretty much the only option they have is to read a book, watch a video on their phone, or play a video game. Makes sense.
@SBBunny93
10 ай бұрын
Then what do you call that time in between comebacks/albums/appearances/performances?
And then there’s my mom over there just chilling while being past lvl 13000(it’s technically supposed to be more since she had lost all her progress many times). I tell you, she’s a literal GOD when it comes to that game. Karina’s 9000 lvls shows that she has some good skills and/or dedication 😆👍
It really depends on individual…
she's so true bout that, some idols said the same thing