There are a few mistakes in the editing, for some reason, a few images pop up in random places and there is some blackscreen at the end. Sorry about that.

@rabbyssi4392

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Pageau I am a (self-proclaimed) occultist and I love your channel and videos! I think occultists are hostile to Christianity because the way Western Christians view the world is perceived as depraved and lacking of the intuitive symbolic understanding. On the other hand, many occultists fail to see the significance of Christian symbolism and remain complacent in whatever customized-symbolic-architecture they devise. Carl Jung was the dude who propelled me into this subtle way of seeing that the orthodox tradition does - though the christian perspective is more limited (imo, no offense). The sooner society sees that magic is necessarily embodied and projected from every soul, manipulated in our every action, and contained in every thing, the better. And I think you’re helping with that :) if you call it ‘God’ I’m okay with that... for the most part.

@JonathanPageau

5 жыл бұрын

@Cole Panacci I have never banned anyone from my comment section. It must be youtube.

@michaelparsons3007

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Pageau you may want to edit out the random baphomet @ 16:22-23 and re-upload. The conspiracists will definitely have a field day seeing as it pops up right when you say “divine sparks of god”. I can hear them now, “He’s not even trying to hide it!” Etc etc.

@michaelparsons3007

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Pageau also I had to scroll way down the thread to see this comment so you may want to pin it to he top or some may miss it.

@kirkjohnson9353

5 жыл бұрын

Those mistakes did not detract from this good video.

I went to the psychologist to treat my big ego I think it worked, I'm feeling much better than all of you today

@dischronic

3 жыл бұрын

Your soul knows the shortest, safest route to your true destiny. Why is your ego behind the wheel? Anthon St. Maarten

@AdrianA-mo5qd

3 жыл бұрын

@@dischronic This quote although it seems brilliant, also seems to disqualify the ego, unless there is more to this quote.

@dischronic

3 жыл бұрын

A tornado starts with a breeze. Congratulations.

@shiva_upasaka

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly hope you don't think that whatever you are trying to express was clever or applicable in any way to this video. Do you people even get through secondary school before you learn how to type this dumb shit?

@romanengelbrecht6717

3 жыл бұрын

Roman Hunt cool name, it actually has everything to do with this videos if your brain cells worked

He's basically saying just cause you think it means something doesn't mean it does. But the same can be said to him. Just cause you think it doesn't have any meaning doesn't mean it doesn't.

@kasrkin3521

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, nice thinking btw.

@satuurn5245

3 жыл бұрын

I kept thinking that very thing throughout the video. A great example is the image from the end of "The Shining". Steven King is definitely a member of the club.

@OmegaF77

3 жыл бұрын

No, I think he is saying that you can't just simply assume meanings on symbols that have an intended meaning that you don't know of.

@HeavenUpsideDown

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on!

@Veldtian1

3 жыл бұрын

@@OmegaF77 Well that's the definition of occulted knowledge, the question is why.

Satan “recycles” Holy symbols and perverts them into a different meaning. The rainbow that Noah saw as a sign of God’s covenant (Holy) vs the rainbow now, etc. Satan cannot create anything new, he can only turn what is God’s creation towards evil ends.

@heliopolitan444

2 жыл бұрын

ΙΑΛΔΑΒΑΟΘ

@MetteMeers

2 жыл бұрын

what about rainbow now?

@thinkingofHim.

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetteMeers it was a covenant between God and all living flesh on earth never to repeat the great flood.

@MetteMeers

2 жыл бұрын

@@thinkingofHim. I mean y'all know that rainbows existed before Christianity? Right?

@krissierea4169

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetteMeers @thinking of Him. Yes we all know that, and so did God and Noah. Did you know that??

Watching a video on symbols while analyzing all of his symbols in the background.

@ExposingBethel

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo. All the Worlds a Stage and all the actors Masons.

@CAT-2323

2 жыл бұрын

The graphite one has such craftsmanship

@runnerfromjupiter

4 ай бұрын

God’s Dog

@helenjenkins6305

3 ай бұрын

)))

Very Canadian.. “I’m going to get angry and rant, if that’s cool with you” 😆

@downeybill

5 жыл бұрын

Well he's Quebecois so he's allowed to be rude, It's a bit like being half French half Canadian. But yeah, its is pretty outrageously polite to give an apologetic preamble before you rant.

@selihter

5 жыл бұрын

He🤣✌

@rickrudd

5 жыл бұрын

***eh, buddy?***

@ironmantis25

4 жыл бұрын

@Mandatory Late Term Abortions for All DemoKKKrats Manners are important

@LanguageExpert-hg8do

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously Canadians are the best

"If the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness." Be conscious you may be in intellectual light while walking in spiritual darkness.

@94TheGr3mlin

3 жыл бұрын

The All is Mind; the Universe is Mental. All is one and one is All. Become the light in the darkness. Love it. 🙏

@luciuschrist6929

3 жыл бұрын

The only light is darkness

@dewy330

3 жыл бұрын

They that sit in darkness saw a great light.

@koreshdabar-yhwh3588

3 жыл бұрын

The intellectual intelligence of man is pure foolishness and nowhere close to true enlightenment that begins in the heart. The mind cannot have true enlightenment without the heart first being made new and brought into humility.

@koreshdabar-yhwh3588

3 жыл бұрын

@@94TheGr3mlin Yeshua is the only pathway to that. Anything else is deception and lies. The fruit is the evidence of such.

I remember a Christian video series called, "Hell's Bells"; which picked apart popular rock songs to find commonalities with Crowley's quote "do as thou wilt...".

@MarkCox21125150

Ай бұрын

Hells Bells: The Dangers of Rock & Roll. Eric Holmberg. Brought me to Christ actually. :)

@Vibeagain

27 күн бұрын

Special

The misunderstanding of symbolism has been a source of much frustration for myself as well. I highly resonate with this video lol. Another point of frustration is the fact that literally all symbolism has been stripped away from modern Protestant Christianity so I can't even point to examples within my own sect and, as you know, in Christian circles anyone who isn't within your own tiny little sect might as well be straight-up worshipping the devil. 🤦‍♂ So this may or may not be helpful in changing any of their minds, but it was nice to see another Christian telling people to stop being silly and ignorant and think critically about the judgements they make.

@kaisertreu6276

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, so you're another Protestant watching videos on Christian symbolism. Nice :D Yeah sometimes it's hard to widen peoples perspective.

@sondrax

Жыл бұрын

Very funny…. ‘’might as well be worshiping Satan….” Ha! Much Truth is spoken in jest….

@acaydia2982

11 ай бұрын

I completely agree. Jesus was very big on symbolism. I don’t see how people don’t see that.

@mbardfast6658

11 ай бұрын

Prof Vitch lays all of this down Brilliantly.

@jimcricket1

10 ай бұрын

If it was silly satan would not be mentioned more times than Jesus in the new testament. The queen of heaven or astarte in the old testament is called easter in the new testament aka diana or Artemis of the Ephesians, semiramis or ishtar of Babylon, mother of tamuz. Do not be deceived. Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11

Jordan Peterson turned my son into a cultist: First he cleaned his room, then he sacrificed a goat...

@radaroreilly9502

4 жыл бұрын

Mike B the goat was delicious too...

@chuckhuckle

4 жыл бұрын

curried goat is delicious.

@blank9354

4 жыл бұрын

I farted

@ryancasey4038

4 жыл бұрын

Love the profile pic, M*A*S*H* is so underrated.

@James_Bee

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryancasey4038 In what world is M*A*S*H underrated? That show lasted longer than the war it was based in. Critically acclaimed.

Did it ever cross your mind that your bishops are part of the occult? thank you

I grew up in the same culture, there is much I love about the heritage I received such as hymns and theology, but a lot of subjects were labeled as demonic and perhaps it is because my parents were first generation Christians who were reacting, like a pendulum, to the French Canadian Catholic overreaching religion of the day. Anyways, in my classical education journey I have been digging and discovering Ancient Art, Medieval Fine Arts and Music, even stories of the Saints (which were a no no when I grew up) and as we remove the layers of misunderstanding we come to see beauty, depth, and symbols we did not understand before. Thanks for the rant, I relate!

@justusbagwaijohn

7 ай бұрын

Today while headed to my place of work, I was praying. In the thoughtful expression, I began to realize the gift of so many things that have happened to me, like the gifts of pain and suffering, the gift of the dry season in Nigerian and raining season, the gift of my confusions that have brought me the hunger for wisdom. All of these, i have just watched and read from you also brings me to the appreciation of so much symbols mean if we are careful enough to ask for clarity. thanks for your work and thoughts Pageau and this very comment.

Video on the Occult: " Styxhexenhammer wants to know your location"

@terryl7855

5 жыл бұрын

The clanking draws inexorably closer :)

@mostlydead3261

5 жыл бұрын

They should do a friendly chat one of these days.

@s.topper9918

5 жыл бұрын

Christians watch Styx because he is a gifted and excellent political analyst.

@Ratty2480

4 жыл бұрын

@@s.topper9918 Jonathan and Styxs channels are me fav favs.

@HolyWisdom93

4 жыл бұрын

@@s.topper9918 If you're a so called Christian and you're afraid of the occult you would actually be a victim of the occult right there! Because Satan owns the fucking church, they have Psi powers that they get from Satan. The occult signifies the hidden laws of nature and the psyche and them getting you to fear that would be the point. It's like an alchemical coincedentia oppositorum.

“If you see it one time, it means nothing, if you see it twice, it’s a coincidence, if you see it three times, it’s the culture”.

@omiorahman6283

4 жыл бұрын

when does it become a meme

@factoryman28

3 жыл бұрын

@@omiorahman6283 69 times.

@DavidD-yp6dh

3 жыл бұрын

33 times lool

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

Cult-ure means, Your Worship. Cult is a Branch of War Ship and ure, refers to the effect of practice. Y is sometimes a vowel. Your / Ure and its backwards. So ure cult. is cultyour lol sea? Agri is field so Agri-cult-ure is Your field War ship. All re-ligion is Sa-tanic.

@SonofJesus14

2 жыл бұрын

No such thing as coincidence.

I think the best way to get your point across (which is a crucial point) is to consider symbols as words (which they are) and that words require context (the tone, the circumstances, a few more words stringed together) to get their meaning across. what's interesting is that by provoking fear, you can make people associate these primordial symbols with enough repulsion so that they will reject them altogether - unless you dress up these symbols in a fashion they are more accustomed to.

"As an orthodox Christian you're not allowed to be a freemason, you're not allowed to give your loyalty to "another secret" organisation." 😉

@grecopologist

4 ай бұрын

One of the most important principals of the Masonic Fraternity is that each member is encouraged to put their religious tradition ahead of the fraternity. I teach classes to new Masons and we start by telling them that the answers they seek are found in their home religion. There should be no conflict of loyalty when our organization is specifically designed as support to the church. The roll of "secrets" is to teach the value of thinking before you speak and respecting the power of the word. Again a support to Christian thought and not a religion

@juliannkretonn4623

4 ай бұрын

It certainly doesnt seem to be very effective ​@grecopologist

@TheMimiorange

4 ай бұрын

​@@grecopologist​@grecopologist I had to watch it again to remember what I meant - you know, I didn't mean you have to be loyal - I guess I was referring to the "another secret organisation" as you said in the video. This means you call the church a "secret organisation". I'm not for or against anything. And I am with you regarding "drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Christ" is a magical practice. Actually I think the entire old Testament is occult magic. Just look at Deuteronomic. So in my opinion it's not that Christians should avoid masons - it's rather anyone should be aware that the church might not be what it seems to be. 🤗

@ao-111

4 ай бұрын

@@grecopologist That is entirely irrelevant to the Orthodox position on Masonry, which at a very basic level includes a strong position against ecumenism and common prayer with the heterodox and heretics, to say nothing of deeper problems.

@GodmadeTrends

3 ай бұрын

@@grecopologistthat’s the trick

Remember: The evil one likes to mimic a/o mock God the saints and Christianity. So any symbolic similarities are to be expected...

@TonyChev

4 жыл бұрын

The enemy has to use truth and then twist it. The enemy is a creature, not a creator. His only power is in corrupting. Unlike the Lord, he cannot create. He perverts holy things. These things used properly are not evil in themselves!

@carpenoctem9519

4 жыл бұрын

@winford evad you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink... if these guys dont know that for themselves by 2020 its their fault. Religion is a fuckin disease

@Ykpaina988

4 жыл бұрын

@winford evad Christianity was not created it was Revealed in fullfillment of the scriptures

@Ykpaina988

4 жыл бұрын

The ancient scriptures of Jewish Torah

@Ykpaina988

4 жыл бұрын

BEING ITSELF Reveals that Christianity is true biologically and symbolically Occultism is not evil when it is incorporated into christianity like mathematics build on previous knowledge

"I believe I could write a better book criticizing Jordan Peterson" Do it! Please, I would buy that book.

@battleowl3517

5 жыл бұрын

Second that

@yassinemotaouakkil3530

5 жыл бұрын

I third that?

@ScottAT

5 жыл бұрын

Not happy with him either. U.N. Globalist who says “you don’t want to wake conservatives up”....

@ScottAT

5 жыл бұрын

jay Yes, I have seen parts of these various videos. I didn’t know people broke it down though-that’s tantamount to hatespeech to his followers. If you are conservative, he wants you drinking canned beer and watching sitcoms.

@Hitlerbaddaringood

5 жыл бұрын

@@ScottAT You think we WANT to worry about freaking gender pronouns???? As a conservative - please, PLEASE just let us go back to delicious American canned beer and our canned sitcoms.

This really helped me, thank you. May your content flourish.

Superb video. I know a lot of people who are dangerously interested in Freemasonry, thinking they are opposed to it, but seem to be doing outreach for them unbeknownst themselves. Did everyone else get the 'Context' warning from KZread? What are the worried about on this one?

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:11‬ ‭KJV

@johng6417

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@alynmichelle1132

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@christenbettis1273

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this sweet scripture reference

@justanotherladevotee4014

3 жыл бұрын

Go out then if it's Lucifer's work I can't stand with these believes of them It's not right for me, but I won't push down to anyone's throat my Own concepts of religion

@neilmihelich2034

3 жыл бұрын

Amen! Praise the Lord!!!!

Im just here to read the comments accusinfg tou of being illuminati.

@RunninUpThatHillh

5 жыл бұрын

That accusation is so..2011.😂

@lightninginmyhands4878

5 жыл бұрын

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

@zevyzevness3800

5 жыл бұрын

Why do so many people like this comment!! You people are sooo fucking boring!!!! Yeah the Illuminati doesn’t exist..... drrrrr

@raygartargaryen5927

5 жыл бұрын

zevyzev ness well, to be honest they did exist long ago. The problem is, they are long dead now. And had nowhere near the power that is implied by conspiracy buffs.

@marcspade_pipes

5 жыл бұрын

@@raygartargaryen5927 preach.

This info is useful to me. Recently I was counting the exercise reps of one of my clients. His first set he did 6 reps. His second set he did 6 reps again. On his third set, I initially thought I wanted him to do any amount of reps other than 6 to avoid three sets of 6 (666). Then I reminded myself that that number is not inherently evil. I have to look at the context in which it is being used. In this case, just an simple workout with no spiritual message.

@r.c4914

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihailhidler5400 The problem is many people dont believe that the devil exist and you by using this number the way you do is goin to make the ignorant or unstable fall . Just like the occult actually when they help the community 😄 they are trying to justify they aren't harmful . Talking about being deceived or either taking advantage of ignorace . I dont think is a number we should be using if we are so called belivers unless by random not of your fault.

@ratchow6338

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, the Waldenses, some of the first christians, didn't have any mystical private rituals or symbolism. They didn't even want Jesus on a cross hung in their home. The children would spend all their time learning the Bible from front to back to go and teach others. Catholicism added the symbolism. Symbolism is created by man to divide themselves from other men. I'd say that would be kinda evil.

@varvarvarvarvarvar

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ratchow6338 History gets really murky the further you go from our own lifetimes. The existence of cagots is shrouded in mystery. They wore a "goose foot" badge which clearly looks like a red cross yet they were untouchables. How did it come to be? Only speculations. It isn't clear how the fighting word "cretin" could get so much use considering it's a shorthand for "christian". Spain was apparently Muslim, but then once it became Christian, they started expelling "new Christians." And we get the important word "admiral" from them, which is an Arabic loan word. The numbers we use are not Roman numerals. A lot of odd stuff on the edges of the official history. If you want to gain clarity by going through the academic canon and its timeline, chances are you won't find it. I think real history looked a lot more like the modern world, similar to how the real world looks different from the romantic soap operas they used to show on TV. Never belittle the truths about the world that you have personally experienced. The modern Muslims are the most iconoclastic people on the planet btw.

@zolod.uchiha5102

Жыл бұрын

Interesting enough 6 is not so much a Satanic number but more of “Mans” number or human kind. We were born on the 6th day for example and I believe the by product for melanin ( specifically black, and sometimes Hispanics, Natives, and Indians) is 666. The Devil honestly just used are on egos and pride against us to essentially praise ourselves over God (Logos) which is the real reason why the number became a problem. 666 is literally self worship.

@joshvarges9230

Жыл бұрын

@@ratchow6338 when?

I am catholic (currently also exploring other chistian religions) and I have always been interesting in the symbolisms in general... at this point I think symbols have true power, and I think symbols are a tool and a language, therefore they are not good nor bad on themselves, but they can be used by many different people with many different intentions, and they can be use for noble and sacred purpouses but also for eveil ones (even for foolish ones)... It's not much different, oversimplificating, as the alphabet: you can use the letters to write a prayer and to write a blasphemy... Saying "hey! that prayer has two letter A, just like this blashphemy!" it does not mean the prayer is actually evil and it does not mean the blasphemy is actually good, it just mean you are looking at two different individuals, using a powerful tool to exhalt different mindsets...

Molech has just been installed in the highest and most well-traveled place on Earth, the Roman Colosseum. That is some strange symbolism right there for the church to 'show off'.

@conspiracycornerpodcast4302

4 жыл бұрын

I made a video of that last year. Crazy stuff.

@conspiracycornerpodcast4302

4 жыл бұрын

@Mike Morbuk they're not hiding stuff anymore

@HabitualConsolation

4 жыл бұрын

It was a statue from a famous Italian movie and the Vatican didn't have much to do with it, stop being paranoid

@joseph1964

4 жыл бұрын

@@HabitualConsolation Tell it to Mother Miriiam - Pope’s proposal, ‘new humanism’, would ‘wipe out Christianity’. Pope Francis and the Vatican - hoodwinking the masses! “The evil has entered into the Church, and it has been bought by the very pope himself and the hierarchy.” www.lifesitenews.com/news/popes-proposal-for-new-humanism-would-wipe-out-christianity

@stephenwillis5699

4 жыл бұрын

@@joseph1964 the Roman Catholic church is Esau's Jacobs brother Esau was a indecriminate killer also perverted read the TORAH

Would you be prepared to have some kind of podcast or video conversation with Jordan Peterson and discuss the points that you disagree on? I sincerely believe it would be beneficial to both your audience, you and Dr. Peterson.

@arono9304

5 жыл бұрын

Yes please! Constructive instead of obstructive feedback :)

@yassinemotaouakkil3530

5 жыл бұрын

@one two amen, or at least some submission grappling, can we make it a standard?

@cryptaker

5 жыл бұрын

They've already had a conversation its on one of their channels

@lightninginmyhands4878

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan will not discuss this. He’s too busy “running circles” around Sam Harris. That was tiresome and was a big reason I lept off the lobster train. I even bought 12 Rules too. Read Vox Day.

@selihter

5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to watch!

An unfortunate possible consequence of this great argument might be the further alienation of the West from Eastern Christianity. Your case, Jonathan, was typically that these images are found not merely in occult circles, but within Orthodox and Catholic symbolism as well. Many Evangelicals, no doubt, will take that to mean that the traditional churches are part of the occult as well.

@leondbleondb

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@richlisola1

6 ай бұрын

The Church is split and with good reason. Dissimilar strains of interpretation of the Bible and the Gospel have forwarded to such a degree, that in some cases even the core beliefs are interpreted differently-For example, Catholics believe that transubstantiation of Christ’s body and blood is core doctrine. Whereas most Protestants see the body and the blood as a purely symbolic affirming of Jesus Christ’s life sacrifice-Between a Catholic and a Protestant these may be insurmountable unlikeness in belief.

I’m surprised that Numbers chapter 21 wasn’t mentioned in which Moses was instructed by God to make a bronze snake on a pole for the Israelites to gaze upon to be healed from the snake venom. Huge amount of symbolism here.

"supporting the occult" by demystifying it... Who was that genius?

"A thin line separates enlightened ideation from paranoid ideation, the crucial difference being that synchronicity is correctly understood in the first case and consistently misinterpreted in the second."-Art Kleps

@MrMadalien

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I have paranoid tendencies when it comes to symbolism (particularly modern uses of symbolism in the corporate environment) and this quote is helpful

@RSanchez111

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson once said something along similar lines to differentiate himself from new age types, paraphrasing: New age types are very open to new ideas but lack critical thinking; I have critical thinking.

@RSanchez111

5 жыл бұрын

@Jared Emry if Peterson has any Vivekananda, it's more likely through Jung's study of eastern mysticism than through Joseph Campbell. Peterson puts Campbell more in the new age camp, criticizing his "follow your bliss" philosophy.

@lyt_w8t

5 жыл бұрын

omg lhasa7 I think that constitutes at least 50% of the people who believe they are "targeted individuals".

@lyt_w8t

5 жыл бұрын

@Big Brained Fedora Tippa I only said 50%! I didn't say the whole thing wasn't true! much respect

The problem with interpreting any symbols is that they can mean different things to different people. And we rarely have access to the original intent of the person writing or placing the symbol. So perhaps it is more useful to use our inner guidance, inner tuition, to gain a truer sense of the original intention. To do this, we need to be aware of any particular meanings we have become accustomed to associating with a particular symbol, put ourself into a neutral space, then tune in to the energy of the originator. It works for me. In addition, I am very wary about swallowing someone else's interpretation either way ('this is an evil symbol' or 'this is not intended to be used for evil'). Because usually, their interpretation is based on a particular agenda of intent, and NOT on a direct energetic connection with the original intended use of the symbol in a specific instance. We all need to do our own tuning in and not blindly rely on someone else's agenda-fuelled dictates ;o)

@EasternOrthodox101

8 ай бұрын

🤺☦🇷🇺No, we don't. You are just as bad as they are. No, we don't get to interpret anything ourselves in scripture - we got the Church’s oral Tradition for an objective truth! Both Jonathan and Peterson are Gnostics in sheep's clothing. And fyi anyone who says that 1 ayotte in the scripture's narrative/stories/history is "allegory" or "symbolic" is a Protestant heretic, not an Orthodox!

@Allyourheroswenttohell

8 ай бұрын

No. They mean what they mean and freemasons lie to people about it and then people believe dumb BS ​@3rddimensionalphysical44 the son of man refers to natural man. Look up the bible verse about the queen of the south. It's talking about ishtar and you'll find that she comes from the most utter parts of the Earth. In this verse jesus refers to himself as the son of man who will sit in the center of the Earth for three days. This is describing becoming spiritual man. Aka a vessel for God. Jesus had to die because it represents destroying this fake idea of self. In revalation 13 the first and second beast are mary and jesus.. rev 12 is about a star alignment with virgo leo and jupiter. Leo sits on the crown. She wears the sun. Aka shining one, stands on the moon. Balanced masculine and feminine energy. This is displaying the virgin birth with jupiter being born. Leo aka God jupiter jesus. Satan is hydra. One third of stars represents the spine. The dragon is the serpent gaurding eden. It id one with the first and second beast. Three pillars of the tree of life inverted. The first came from the sea. The second the Earth. Sin in all living things. The d evil within. A gift to help us survive. The same darkness in you is within all living things.. you should examine the logo he used for him taking part in a conspiracy. Do you know what it means? The glove is making the 666 hand gesture from freemasonry. The seven pillars he is using represents the seven seals of revalation. The seven chakras that align the spine. You have to face the destroyer to recieve the morning star. The all seeing eye. You do this biblically by destroying ishtar on the seven hills she sits allowing them to flow openly causing the biblical flood. The river of God is actually your cerebral spinal fluid. I have very little doubt there's a conspiracy to create christians. I also have little doubt that's a huge part of what freemasons have done for the last 2000 years. Esp after they created America. I also have little doubt he's part of an organized conspiracy in freemasonry and he is lying about it. He did a show with Jordan Peterson where they discussed the legitamacy of the devil. Which btw is literally just evil... d evil. It was a survival mechanism and gift from the divine feminine that created the universe. Anyways in this they set up a table in the center of the room. That table was the tree of life. The bible says there's two tree's on ether side of the river of God. It's about your brain stem, csf, and the ether. Seven people sat around the table. Seventh heaven. This is why the numbers three and seven are paired in the bible. It's a code revolving around the tree. Jordan sat in the middle. The left half of his suit red. The right blue. God said he would put the sheep on the right and goats on the left. Osiris flail and crook became adonai... yet this con job wants you to think bible characters were real. God is the center pillar, masculine and feminine energy on ether side. The three mirrors behind them are about this. Sexual alchemy is in all myths and religions. It is science. This science is actually showing that all the God's are one and every biblical character is God. Hence Jordan displaying as God. The ego it takes is insane on it's own. Then in another video this guy says people say the catholic church is evil because of the symbolism they use linking it to egypt. Even their hats came from egypt... know why it's evil? The ancients elongated their skulls to represent a virgin birth within. It came from the cosmic egg. Birthing God within. In the beginning greeks called the divine feminine chaos. It birthed the divine masculine. As above so below. It's about becoming one with the universe balancing this masculine and feminine within. The scales of justice. If the hesrt weighs ,ore than a feather it will be devoired by a crockadile. Aka your ego. Satan. If it's lighter you'll enter heaven internally. So what's wrong with that? All perversions came from the royals and the vatican. It's evil because they used it to manipulate people and brainwash the entire planet. Now I'll extend this farther... social media is rigged for their initates. Hence him downplaying what actually happened. Europeans were brought into the mystery schools and then used initation rights based off black mail to over throw them from within. At this point they've turned them into aliens. Mork and mindy. Blue shining one in a cave in merlin. Metal robot in dragonball. Alien. Promotheus... promotheus stole fire from the God's. This is actually about knowing and seeing evil. Man has become like one of us. Nobody gets to the father except through me. Six six six breaks down into 9. The omega. Jesus is both masculine and feminine energy. God and satan. The man never existed just like the rest of fictional characters based off God's. He was crucified in the skull. Thrity three bones in the spine to the holy grail. Jesus is the morning star. Sirius. The blazing star of freemasonry. Your penial gland. These people sold their souls. Mad obvious is you crack their code in all our tv shows, movies, and games. Corporation logos. Stone carvings and heiroglyphs. This channel is basically about creating a barrier so you can't see what's right in front of your face. Freemasons manipulating humanity. The truth movement is a third arm for the media. It is all striaght up BS. So how about explaining this away... other people might not see this for what it is... but I do. Jesus is both God and satan because the man, the myth, the legend is indeed just that. A fantasy invention by a global cult like all their non sense religoons they used to hide this. Lucifer so badly wanted to be like the most high every night it sirius rizes to the highest point in the sky to be sent back to the underworld by the sun. Satna claustrum. It's why God's decend into hell before rizing back up again. Jesus is lucifer. No one gets the father except through me. Without knowing evil you can not come to know God. Only his graven image jesus gave you to worship instead of God.

I regret that I'm just now finding this video so many years afterwards. Excellent!

anyone who wants a good idea of what these groups are really like, watch the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz... it’s all a show to instill fear in order to maintain control and their level of power

@shunter4826

3 жыл бұрын

The United States government is behind the green curtain.

@skyjack8541

3 жыл бұрын

Please tell us something we don't know. Heard it a billion times. Besides, who cares.

@panosa7789

3 жыл бұрын

@@skyjack8541 😅who cares? I love that one. “Stop thinking about this stuff and just enjoy your life”.... I hear that a fair bit. I have such a difficult time understanding people that can recognize the issue but aren’t willing to talk about it.

@AshJae

3 жыл бұрын

Except it's not really a show, they actually do extremely wicked disgusting things behind closed doors, that's why people are legit afraid, they have demonic spirits running through them

@AshJae

3 жыл бұрын

Thank God we have ultimate power and authority through Christ Jesus alone. They do everything they can to distract us from that fact and to keep us bogged down in our own sin. We still rise and win at the end of the age. All glory to Him! Who saves

Jordan Peterson always tries to reel in his discussion witb "As I see it" or my opinion is...yes he has a message but you dont have to agree with him. He doesnt want laws forcing you to agree with him.

@NikolaAvramov

5 жыл бұрын

No, he just wants money and political power based on the illusion that he's a postmodern dissident.

@ThomasDoubting5

5 жыл бұрын

This is true... He openly wants people to debate him and question him because it's how he improves himself and other people improve themselves... I like that about him although at the same time he boil me sometimes but in a way I get to understand something about myself

@NikolaAvramov

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasDoubting5 When has Peterson ever debated someone with expert knowledge, ready to call him out for selling watered-down info that he labels as "academic"?

@thefiremanscomin

5 жыл бұрын

@@NikolaAvramov everyone wants money...

@NikolaAvramov

5 жыл бұрын

@@thefiremanscomin And not everyone is willing to con people to get it.

I liked what you said. Its how ive always seen it. From that first acknowledgement that symbols were widely used by different peoples , we can then see that they all spoke the same language of symbols, and then maybe branched off in different directions and different opinions and philosophies , while althiugh opposing each other in their final conclusions, all spoke and speak the same symbolic language.

hey, I just started down this part these last few years so I am excited to find just about three years ago you uploaded this and that apparently I saw this before cause I have two other comments I see here

Newsflash buddy they’re not using the symbols in a good way

@merikijiya13

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Alexander Well the satanic temple using the baphomet statue as a symbol for justice and equality. That’s good.

@merikijiya13

4 жыл бұрын

glockster I just explained that the use the statue as a symbol of justice and equality. How is justice and equality a bad thing? You perspective of Satan is not the only perspective that exist remember that. I for one am a member of the satanic temple and I assure you Satan does not equal bad to us.

@merikijiya13

4 жыл бұрын

glockster because that’s what the symbol of Satan means. Besides it’s more than that but all of it is in line with satanism because of the view of Satan. The character who represents going against arbitrary authority, much like the way Satan oppose Yahweh. The character who does not shy away from inquirie, much like when Satan question Yahweh when everyone else said don’t question him. The character who attempts to show equality and justice which opposes Yahweh’s vision of women being under man and the unjust decision he makes in the book. If you want more information about this perspective you can visit the satanic temple website.

@merikijiya13

4 жыл бұрын

glockster explain?

@merikijiya13

4 жыл бұрын

glockster yes we do not believe in a literal Satan or anything superstitious. We take the character and what he represents and set a philosophy around it. It is no gimmick or joke we as an organization have already put our ideas into practice showing it isn’t a joke. America says we should all have religious liberty correct? So if a public place wants to promote Christianity than it should be aloud to promote satanism as well. And if it doesn’t then leave religion out of public places period. This is clearly a course equality and if not that then justice. And no I do not get paid I genuinely believe in the cause of educating others about scientific advancements and eliminating superstitious thinking without evidence. Nothing there is a lie. We most definitely wish to protect children as I see it forcing children to join Christianity at a young as is wrong.

Very good. I like how you explain yourself and identify obvious counterpoints and address those- then jump right back on track with your thought. This technique can be hard to do without spinning off into a tangent.

I can’t find your spiderverse on your list of videos. Can you post a link please?

Thank you for this video. It helped me with clarification of perceiving those

I summarize it like this: Context creates meaning. Also, yes, please do another one of these. Even a whole series would be cool.

@covermaiden

3 жыл бұрын

I will go further: memory creates meaning.

@coehfelipe

2 жыл бұрын

Up

@9hawk16

Жыл бұрын

@@covermaiden pattern recognition creates meaning which leads to truth.

@Blissblizzard

Жыл бұрын

@@9hawk16 or a false positive

@jayoven3670

Жыл бұрын

You clearly haven't read Jung. There's objective meaning mechanisms to the human psyche. Called "archetypes" of the unconscious.

Why would anyone hide one of their eyes, or do the pyramide sign when singing or dancing?Or hide one of their hands on the front side of their jacket? Is it something normal to do? If not then why? Symbolism does represent something, it is merely not coincidental. It conveys a message to your followers/camarades about your allegiance to something/someone or deities.

@flowerpower6147

3 жыл бұрын

It’s so creepy!!! And it’s everywhere you look. Growing up as a child me and my siblings would always notice it. I can name countless cartoons with this symbolism... what do you think it means?

@justinsaunders3932

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this guys either completely deceived or he’s damage control for the Freemasons. It’s not a coincidence and these symbols are all charged up with occult black magick

@letsallgetalong5499

3 жыл бұрын

All secret societies worship satan it's a fact no matter anyone's excuses, that's all anyone needs to know enough said!

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

So, what is Baptism? Closing the 3rd eye with water at birth? Good one. Christianity is Satanic, like all other religion.

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

There is normally a Canon to a language right? is there a difference between b and d? Are they the same? no. So same with symbols and there is a canon. Like language, only metaphysical. We do however speak languages and those all have meaning. Its not up to you. SOrry.

Been a while since I've heard a healthy counter point. Thank you for applying your time in a respectful manner. Please keep up the good work as an intellectual.

"as above so below" years ago i remember my girlfriend at the time she kept telling me " NO THATS BAD ITS BAPHAMENT EVIL SYMBOLISM" , and its just wrong such a low-resolution perception of something with such a deep symbolism you will see it EVERYWHERE the reason is because it literally is one of the most fundamental perceptions in nature. Just because Alistair Crowley said it one time doesn't make it evil. I think the same thing happens with the Gnostics, people are too quick to assume they know everything about the gnostics and the gnostics that existed thousands of years ago must have thought just like Karl Marx and Hegel... Just because you have the symbolism of the Demiurge "false god" (which also appears multitude of places) doesn't mean you believe in luciferianism. Glad to hear you talk about this Jonathan, as someone who is interested in symbolism it has always been annoying to me to have a lot of these things generally overlooked by people with a very shallow understanding of what the symbol is..

Symbolism in itself is just a visual representation of a belief system that in itself is neither good nor evil. I believe it's the intent of the person/people behind the symbol or action that makes the difference & gives it, it's meaning.

@timdevolldable

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@dominicksebastien2254

3 жыл бұрын

Those are "signs" like road signs, they are visual representation of something they are not, they are coded meaning. But symbols are something that creates new reality. So, what you are saying is true but in the context of signs.

@nigelmushonga3772

3 жыл бұрын

No, a symbol is a microcosm of reality, a visual representation of something that is real, condensed in a way that is easily understood by the mind

There are some idiots out there, but you know the main points of critique towards JBP is not his use of symbols relevant to certain ideologies, but his actual ideas reflecting that of those ideologies. For instance his emphasis on chaos mirroring that of the Ein Sof or his obsession with individualism resembling enlightenment capitalist atomization.

@hugehairyfetus

5 жыл бұрын

Can you please go into more detail on these points? I find these avenues of criticism more interesting than usual.

@user-kw9hg9o

5 жыл бұрын

"his obsession with individualism resembling enlightenment capitalist atomization" He explicitly said he doesn't believe there's such a thing as atomic individualism,or that there's anything wrong with belonging to a group,or that he doesn't support collective effort,etc.

@theLittle726

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-kw9hg9o Why does he say organizing by race is marxist identity politics then?

@user-kw9hg9o

5 жыл бұрын

@@theLittle726 Because attempts at ethnocentrism are usually made by people who dupe themselves into avoiding responsibility for their own lives and feeding their self worth by endlessly pointificating about the negatives of this or that group of people, instead of focusing in their individual growth and then creating meaningful change from that.Identitarianism. He sees racial politics as the same "us vs them" mentality that destroyed the soviets inside out and that's destroying the West presently,or at the very least he feels like further segregation can only do more damage.That's why he's desperately trying to establish some kind of equilibrium between the right and the left for example,or the pendulum will just keep swinging between the two extremes forever. There's more nuance to the (counter) argument,obviously,I'm just describing his ideas.

@villiestephanov984

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-kw9hg9o : you do not and cannot understand Peterson' ideas nor the lack thereof in his case.

This videos concept is very important because people tend to mesh symbolism and we try to objectively categorize different ideologies through historical comparisons. The symbol is directional stimulus to a certain degree but it’s important to remain open to nuance. Myself included.

Jonathan, I've been a lurking fan for a little while now and I genuinely enjoy your content. Found you through Glink, believe it or not. You've helped me rethink some views I've held about my faith. It's been a pleasure learning from you. I'm very curious about your interpretation about Freemasonry. Most of the information I've found about the fraternity seems to either be misidentifications like you've defined here, or information that honestly appears rather positive. Albert Pike and Aleister Crowley are very obviously evil and subversive people, intending to entirely destroy Christianity. But I can't honestly say I believe that for the rest of the Masonic bodies, especially that of the York Rite which is literally pulling from the story of the Knights Templar. To give a quote from a Knights Templar magazine, "Freemasonry can certainly not take the place of the Church. It must, in fact, support the Church." That article does mention some sketchy apocryphal sources too, so it's not as if their word is gospel. However, it largely appears that Masonry is actually on the side of the Church, not against it-at least on the side of the York Rite. Where can I learn more about the subversive or sinister side of Freemasonry that you were talking about? I'm trying to give an honest study on both sides of the opinion. Thank you so much for all of the work you do!

@markjohnson4217

10 ай бұрын

I think this 'evil' label is very problematic here. When refering to these issues regarding secret societies and austere brotherhoods, it is clearer to place them in the context of knowledge vs ignorance, and applies to the Christian Church as well. Many of these groups claim to be in possession of the 'greater key of Solomon' or the 'True Emerald Tablet' the 'Prima Materia' the 'magic elixer', etc..This kind of rhetoric smacks of tragic ignorance right away and guaranteed to be chock-full of dogma and fanciful nonsense. These groups are evil in tbe sense that they are populated with people who are seeking some to quench some base desire for riches or covert power. Any talk about alchemy and gold, eternal youth, blah blah blah...seeking one's fortune via fortune teller is NOT very wise

@AuraysTimelessChannel

8 ай бұрын

I'm calling bs

@michaelkerr8296

5 ай бұрын

Scottish rite is subversive, for sure. I don’t know as much about the York rite. But I steer clear of masonry as a whole. We must be on guard, for I believe that the the enemy works from top down, influencing the ignorant by means of the consent of the knowledgeable.

That's comforting to know that snakes aren't always evil. When I joined the US Army and realized our crest has a talking snake saying "this we'll defend" on it and I learned that a lot of the symbolism came from Washington who was supposedly a free mason I had some suspicions (only thing that kept me thinking the opposite of what seemed to be true was true was that special operations, ie Special Forces being referred to as "snake eaters" or SEALs being referred to as "frog men" reminds me of Jordan Peterson's lectures about Marduk fighting Tiamat (snake eater) and your convo with JBP about the metaphysics of Pepe and how frogs are similar to jesters in representing a thing surviving in chaos, in the upside down world, and a harbinger of the correction.)

@grantrogers1858

Жыл бұрын

To add to it, not with any bias, in Exodus, God judges Egypt by sending frogs "But if you refuse to let them go, behold, I will plague all your country with frogs." Also revelation frogs are associated with evil spirits "And I saw, coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs." (Revelation 16:13)

@ImNotJoshPotter

11 ай бұрын

There's something in scripture, (sorry I'm probably not going to get this exactly right) that says, "be as innocent as doves and as wise as sepernts." I think it could also help to read the story of St. Paisios and his snake friend.

@TheSopheom

10 ай бұрын

If you ever visit D.C the whole place is ripe with Freemasonic symbols. Our founding fathers had a plan for this country and it is written about extensively. That being said, wrestling with the snake often symbolizes taming the animal nature within. Well written about in older texts, described as Kundalini.

@edwardblanc657

10 ай бұрын

Who told you that snakes are evil? Why is it that the goal of the snake in the Garden of Eden, is the same result that we see in the Book of Revelation? These people do exactly what is said in 2 Corinthians 3:14. Their eyes are blinded when reading the Old Testament. They fail to see that the motivation of Jesus is the same as the motivation of the snake in Eden. The intention was to understand morality, but when we began to understand morality and gain knowledge, we were murdered by the Self Proclaimed Imposter God who stole immortality from us. He is the one who fell from Heaven to Earth. The same one spoken of by the angel in Revelation 12:12. What did Jesus say about "the murderer from the beginning? Read John 8:44. Better yet, read the whole chapter for context. Jesus tells the Pharisees what is written in "their laws". He talks about the difference between "their father" and "my father". The Father in Heaven is not the God of the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament is obsessed with sacrifice and bloodshed. Whereas the Father in Heaven sent his own Son to be a Sacrifice here on Earth. We have been lied to, and it becomes really obvious when you see all the murder and bloodshed in the old testament and compare it to what Jesus actually said. Intention. Motivation. Purpose. Faith. Hope. Love. Serpents are not evil. Our founding fathers even talked about this when we chose the Eagle over the Snake. "Don't tread on me." But now we have a Eagle clutching a Snake as our nation's mascot. The war between the Eagle and the Serpent is real. Just look throughout all of history and you will see the Eagles Wings as a Herald for Death and Destruction. Snakes are venerated as being wise and healers. Even in the Bible the Jews are healed by looking at a bronze serpent. The Biblical text is full of contradictions because it was monopolized and tainted by the Roman Catholics for 1500 years. Thank God for Luther. We would be screwed without him... Yet even now, so many are still blind to the truth.

@amandajones4549

8 ай бұрын

@@ImNotJoshPotterbecause Enki is the Serpent in Edin. He is the one to help Eve and Adam gain wisdom!😊

Great topic! But did you have to post it 5 minutes before I go into work? 😥

Wondering your thoughts on Sola scriptura, cessationism vs. Continuationism, bethel church and the radical charismatic movement, and sort of an elaboration on your thoughts concerning eschatology

Hey Jonathon. Please forgive me if this is something you have talked on previously. I dont mean for you to rehash. What would you say is the motivations and goals of people like Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky, Albert Pike, and Aleister Crowley? If there is no need for concern about symbolism conspiracies? Or are we just missing the mark?

"All these squares make a circle" Did...Did Popo in DBZ Abridged transcend esoteric understanding on that acid trip?

@stevefoxrox

5 жыл бұрын

To think there was another DBZ abridged fan that enjoy's the Pageau

@MrFaberJack

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevefoxrox make it two

@ficklebar

5 жыл бұрын

Three

@ShoRyuBarbie

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevefoxrox They're basically the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

@majinbahamut3985

5 жыл бұрын

Make it 4...

This is very interesting. Could you go deeper into how to actually analyze patterns in occult ideas. I find it really interesting when people point out the relationship between Gnosticism hermeticism and communism, but I always ask myself if it might just be confirmation bias and pattern recognition where you filter out the differences or simplify the similarities in the same way in which you described the over-simplistic analysis of "Symbol here, symbol also there"

The essence of authentic Jewish Kabbalah is “Treat your brother as you would treat yourself” …because on the other side of the veil… you and your neighbor are one organism.

You clarified something I've been wondering about. Thy will be done vs My will be done. I'd like to hear more about this. Thanks.

NO WAY! I LITERALLY JUST GOT GOOSEBUMPS! THANKKKK YOOOU!!! You seriously just answered a question that I have been asking myself for a couple of years now. Let me explain- as an artist, I have been EXTREMELY puzzled by this trend that has been going on with shapes. More specifically, the arch, "heaven and earth", circle on a square/rectangle. They are EVERYWHERE and I absolutely love them but thought that it was awfully odd that everyone was using them and since artists reflect the state of society, I was curious why there would always be these arched windows. Now what I would really be curious to know is if I sent you a collection of ones that I have seen and that stick out to me, would you think you could interpret?? I have some hints to what it is reflecting or "telling" us about societies undercurrents (which I believe it is because it is a subconscious phenomenon - the majority of these artists know little but the popular astrological figures that have been glamorized lately- there was no intention), but I'm sure you know more than I do.

@timetobenotdo

3 жыл бұрын

Did you end up digging deeper?

@SrSilly

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew Not really. All I know is that in some ways, it’s sort of unsettling. I had this awaking last year that started with a massive panic attack and ever since I see the arts as something similar to witchcraft. Not in a necessarily bad way, but for instance, pop music or modern illustrations can kinda speak some really catchy dark stuff into the world and as our “virginity” to these dark concepts continues to be shocked- they keep pushing the envelope because we have been grown desensitized as a society. “Logos” now being made to represent the image of a business/money/material ... and exploitation of Logos. It’s all super interesting but I suppose these hunches of mine are all theories.

I would like to hear more on the topic for sure. And if possible maybe even some speculation on how to recover the meaning of symbols that have been co-opted by other groups like you were speaking of. One example being the swastika, which as many know was used by Nazi Germany and various white supremacist groups and was inspired by the occult, but it was stolen from more ancient religions, the easiest example being Buddhism. Yet when many people see it they don’t think Buddhism or what have you. They think Nazi. So how could one recover the original intent and rescue it from the other more horrible attributions?

Joseph Campbell explained this in not so many terms. You are correct, the symbols in themselves are not evil. As a matter of fact many of the same symbols are seen in many cultures in many religions which actually reinforces the perennial nature of these symbols across cultures and time. I think this should invite conversation about human existence

I feel like this went no where

@INNR-G

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas warhurst I was going to say if you want real occult symbolism, check out Bro Sanchez! but then I looked at your channel and I saw that you liked some of his videos already. Lol 👏👏💯☺️

@richardwendling4030

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo, that is why they call it spin!

@BGdroopy

4 жыл бұрын

There is always something to learn. U weren’t paying attention if you walked away with nothing.

@NikolaAvramov

4 жыл бұрын

He's just slandering this man: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aY6ktq2DdMrFm6g.html

@propheticpig868

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Any thoughts on Valentin Tomberg? Kinda relevant. I saw him mentioned in the comments below your videos every now and then, but I never saw your address any of writings.

May I ask about that awesome print "God's Dog" behind you. What is that?

“These aren’t the droids you are looking for” Yeah right Jedi. I see you.

@shanefelkel9966

3 ай бұрын

These aren't the druids you are looking for. Of course. Ave Caesar. Carry on.

This is great but you coul've gone more into the fact that most of this symbolism refers to kundalini energy, including the baphomet.

@trailtripper8183

4 жыл бұрын

DMT

@DawnHub666

4 жыл бұрын

Nutters

@trailtripper8183

4 жыл бұрын

@@DawnHub666 Nutters are poeple consuming rubbish like sugar and junk food. People consuming DMT and Entheogens are just curious and wondering what life is all about.

@DawnHub666

4 жыл бұрын

@@trailtripper8183 i was referring to the scared people freaking out about kundalini energy and baphomet symbols

@conspiracycornerpodcast4302

4 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Lorenzo a little window in a ship,I think. I could be wrong lol. I think they meant portals. Lol.

By their fruits you shall know them.

@Chadthefatherbear

11 ай бұрын

It’s that simple.

@tylervoit9447

8 ай бұрын

That is the truth.

What happened to the picture of JP in the robe during his initiation that used to be in this video?

@jimcricket1

10 ай бұрын

Freemason initiate?

History gives ground and firm foundation, but cannot explain nor limit Mystery. Mystery does not deny nor can it erase History.

Matthieu Pageau really needs to join in on these great talks! I feel he would've contributed greatly to this wonderful rant :)

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

Its unfortunate to see people like this man still protecting our oppressors with false beliefs. All religion is Satanic. Its not a question sorry. Its the Truth.

I am new to your channel, so forgive a dumb question. Have you done anything on the imagery and symbolism in Albrecht Durer's art? Thanks in advance for your reply!

If you believe in transubstanciation you've misinterpreted the message that Christ was trying to convey. Just as you eat food physically, you must eat food spiritually and if you do not internalize the character and the nature of who the Christ is you're not eating him... your physical body needs food, and so does your spirit. The teaching has nothing to do with cannibalism, nor would Christ teach something contradictory to the word of the Father.

@M8017.

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew 4:4 "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

@alecmadrid615

3 жыл бұрын

He came so that we could murder Him. By murdering him, we leaned that murder was wrong. By eating him we learn that cannibalism is wrong. By making us perform our own evil over and over it sticks in our heads that we are evil and God is good.

@alecmadrid615

3 жыл бұрын

If you want your rituals to celebrate the goodness of humanity than attend a Satanist Service where they worship sex or attend a Protestant “Lords Supper”. If you attend a Catholic Mass, expect be reminded of the Evil of humanity.

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

The F-Ather in religion is who? Did you have a real father?

@gymvulner1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@je-freenorman7787 Are you confused about the trinity or something? Not sure what you're trying to say.

I've noticed in the last few years, on this very platform, a curious form of symbolism: the light-blue "context" disclaimer box which never fails to apply itself directly underneath a video in attempt to discredit the content herein. There are quite a few 'topics' that receive the honorable blue badge. The unsettling thing is trying to put it all together--- figuring out why all those topics are all related and for whom . . .

Peterson is too good & they want to discredit him. Thanks for bringing this up.

I’ve been catholic for over 50 yrs. I went to all girls catholic schools for 12 yrs. THEY NEVER EVER TALKED DOWN OR HANDED OUT derogatory misinformation on another Christian religion. If you knew how beautiful the Catholic Faith is you would be so mad they did that.

@miladydewinter8551

5 жыл бұрын

Crazy life Catholic and Protestant are different denominations of Christianity not different religions.

@NikolaAvramov

5 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard of Roman Catholics.... that's very hard to imagine to be true. I've been on the receiving end of some of this misinformation myself.

@polkanietzsche5016

5 жыл бұрын

@@miladydewinter8551 protestantism, anglicanism and any other manmade religion originated in the reform is an heresy.

@miladydewinter8551

5 жыл бұрын

Matouzzka In your opinion. Reforms came about because of the unbiblical corruptions within Catholicism (like the selling of indulgences for example) which after the Protestant Reformation also reformed within. Heresy was the name applied by the Catholic Church and the Inquisition to justify the murders of over 500 million people including Jewish people and others. Regardless Catholicism and Protestantism ARE both denominations of the same religion Christianity. Denominational differences aside they both believe in Jesus Christ, Son of God Saviour which is the fundamental precept of Christianity and all Christians. Another religion means another founder, faith and doctrine like Buddha or Mohammed for example.

@polkanietzsche5016

5 жыл бұрын

@@miladydewinter8551 "Church and the Inquisition to justify the murders of over 500 million people including Jewish people and others. " I stopped reading after this, you cant get more wrong lmao. Buddism is not a religion, is a philosophy, and Mohammed was a pedophile, hence a false prophet. But is ok, you can keep believing in your false man made cults. Greetings.

Good video. Just curious what is your religious background if any?

There's always an exoteric and an esoteric meaning. But the evil forces delight in your acceptance of it as "silly and innocent" as a way to clear themselves of any guilt because they view silence as consent. Maybe those same symbols are used in those places precisely BECAUSE of that? What better place to hide than right out in the open.

Nope not buying it. You wizards and your sorcery is getting weaker every day. "repurposing symbols" yea that's what I would say too if I were a liar.

@Pragnantweggyboard

4 жыл бұрын

He needs to keep his shekels.

@larryrapshaw8405

4 жыл бұрын

Entwined snakes remind me of DNA, ... building blocks of life.

@tgbitw17

4 жыл бұрын

What Im not buying is people who rebuke and criticize when they dont give reasons why they've done so or offer an alternative take on the subject. What arent you buying? whats wrong with "repurposing symbols?"

@TyMcLeod

4 жыл бұрын

The Hater Slayer can you repurpose a stop sign 🛑 ? No, because If you could It wouldn’t represent Stop

@tgbitw17

4 жыл бұрын

@@TyMcLeod huh? lol. of i pulled up a stop sign on one block and put it up on another block wouldnt it still tell cars to stop? Im not getting your point .

Jonathan are you aware of the absolutely stunning work "Meditations on the Tarot"? It was originally written in French in the forms of letters "from the other side" by a deceased "unknown friend", and, by the will of the author, published anonymously several years after his death. In it, the author delves deeper than anybody else I am aware of, into the occult and its symbolism, ultimately tying and bringing everything back into the light of the Christian Mystery. It has basically, single-handedly rescued me from my wanderings into the occult and brought me back to Christ and to his Church. The book is so deeply layered and the insights of the author are so profound that it keeps on giving even after many many reads. A truly "Living Book" in the highest sense, and the only one of its kind to my knowledge.

@nathanmcgrory4158

5 жыл бұрын

I think the author was Valentin Tomberg.

@veilofreality

5 жыл бұрын

@@nathanmcgrory4158 Yes.

@wonksliver

5 жыл бұрын

@@veilofreality It's superb indeed.

Great video, thanks. “The Great Triad” and “The symbolism of the Cross” by René Guenon are fantastic resources to dig deeper into these topics. Keen to hear your thoughts on Rene Guenon Jonathan

I always enjoy Jonathan's videos. I think he was really "coffeed" up for this one.

All things can be used for good or evil. It's the wielder not the weapon that determines its function

@AmiStidhamMyHealingJourney

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you.

@iseegood5609

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and pointing out that symbols are often used for evil, is not attacking people. Like blaming guns for murder would be error, but saying using guns as murder weapons and symbolism of gun violence as good is actually evil, is not attacking all gun owners or trying to take away rights to own guns.

@deondresealy7764

3 жыл бұрын

when it comes to spiritual that is completely different if u draw from a well that can bring forth evil then it was never really good the attitude of it being used for good is bad because even the devil can give blessings

@iseegood5609

3 жыл бұрын

@@deondresealy7764 well put. The Devil can deceive with false promises and fulfill many desires, not really blessings but they seem to be. But I like how you put the analogy, I see it like a root of evil that branches out to what can appear good to people if we aren't diligent and prayerful in spirit and truth. Grace and peace of Jesus Christ to everyone whose reading.

@JiggyJones0

2 жыл бұрын

A good tree can not bring forth evil fruit and an evil tree can not bring forth good fruit.

Sooo..... What do the double serpents on your Bishop's cross symbolize? Is it good? And if so how? Thanks

@Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar

3 жыл бұрын

Numbers 21:8 KJV - And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. Numbers 21:9 KJV - And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. This of course represents Christ, and those that look to him for salvation. However, it wasn't long before the Isrealites started worshiping that same statue and not what it represented. 2 Kings 18:4 KJV - He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan. So, perhaps, that image represents those that believed in what the snake represented and those that believed in the snake. Also, it could also simply represent, one believing thief and one unbelieving thief. Both are types of people society would deem snakes. "That thieving snake!".

Symbols, whether of religious ideologies or secular meanings have always been the most effective tool as a means of containing in a condensed sense, the identity of the group, team, institution, company or sector. The same reason that we still use corporate logos as easy identification today. We can shift into meanings that are more archetypal or universal when we employ primary geometry, mathematics and sometimes even color and shade can denote and communicate something Fundamental and clear (Yin-Yang for example). The most direct primary shape is the circle, and it is of course the oldest symbol we know. The centre of the circle and points that span around the circle itself are a crucial aspect and the circle is meaningless without them. Now this simple rudiment ultimately leads to the familiar spiral, shell-like form of the Golden Mean, the PI formula, and the mathematical divisions of one whole into the decimal points. So it would be silly to assume that such a symbol could only be understood by a local people, or an expert in the field. An equalateral cross is another such fundament symbol, easily understood.

In 2019 I wouldn't have paid any attention to this video. It's now 2023 and I see the wickedness that rules the world has seeped unnoticed throughout history. This symbols are not random. These leaders all know exactly what they mean. They are using the Apocalypse of John as an instruction manual.

@stonergene

22 күн бұрын

Exactly. The only problem for them is that they believe they have a place in this world after it happens. We already know who wins.

Maybe you should do an occult series, or more specifically a de-occultism series. Like it or not these conversations are being had by people who are illiterate when it comes to understanding the purpose (and repurposing) of these symbols, and having your angle would be beneficial in dispelling the misconceptions that arise from the darker underbelly of the internet.

Excellent video! I think it wasn’t a rant as much as an off the cuff, impassioned delivery of observations on a subject which is near and dear to you. You were in your element and the result was great, thank you for sharing!!

@zoltanrudolf

Жыл бұрын

Hello stranger!

@sealevelbear

Жыл бұрын

@@zoltanrudolf Howdy 🤠

Super glad you have done the leg work on this.

I'm pretty conservative and square but I enjoy going to dive bars & after hour clubs. I often run into self proclaimed satanists and other misfits who freak out when I tell them I'm an agent of Archangel Michael 😂😂 I'm not particularly religious but the things I've experienced in my day to day life make me want to revisit some of my early Catholic/Christian teachings.. Not sure if what I just shared is in any way pertinent to what was covered in this video..

@kiwi21471

10 ай бұрын

interesting that occultists are really worried about St Michael. speaks volumes!

The carving you craft is beautiful. Quite an artist!

I know the exact video you may be talking about. It is Brother Augustine's video on Jordan Peterson and speculating if he could be a freemason. Keep in mind that Brother Augustine is an ex freemason occultist who is now Orthodox, he even has an interview with Jay Dyer under his real name Michael Whitcoff. You should have an actual talk with him, he isnt as dumb or thick headed as you make him out to be. Please reach out to him.

@brotheraugustine

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment. I am not sure why he decided to leave out the entire context of my video, but since it is Lent I will charitably assume he simply forgot. Jonathan and I are friends on Facebook, and he could have easily reached out to me to ask for clarification or start a dialogue. I was excited when I heard he made a video response to my video, and very disappointed when I sat down to watch it.

@Alorand

5 жыл бұрын

@@brotheraugustine I would interpret it as him choosing not to create unwarranted drama by putting your name out there before he hears from you. Please reach out to him, I would love to see you have an in depth discussion on this topic.

@brotheraugustine

5 жыл бұрын

@@Alorand He invited me to discuss all of this with him on his channel after Pascha - an offer I gladly accepted and look forward to participating in. We will set up the scheduling for this soon, hopefully.

@Kal-El207

4 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as an Ex-Freemason. Once you're a Mason. You're a Mason for life. You can't ever be an Ex-Mason. You can never undo what you've saw once you're initiated. You need to shut the fuck up about shit you don't know about.

@tidmartin4794

4 жыл бұрын

The 9ine God I don’t understand how you can’t be an ex-Freemason. It’s a fraternity. No doubt a person can’t forget what the person saw and heard in their initiation, but what is it that they saw or heard that makes one irrevocably a Freemason? What is a “Freemason” that it is something someone can be simply by virtue of knowing something? It seems to me that if someone stops paying their dues and gets their membership revoked or they leave the group then they are an ex-Freemason. What am I missing here?

Much needed message at this time! Thank you❤

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures... The occult is a never ending rabbit hole of thinking one is right and then it fractals out into infinity

I'm glad there is a world of people digging for the answers, you're bound to find something as long as you keep looking.

@je-freenorman7787

3 жыл бұрын

We always ask questions to learn. We make mistakes and ask for forgiveness. We always let go of our beliefs for the knowledge.

@ShawnJonesHellion

2 жыл бұрын

not if all. you do is watch tv an Jyoutube an read their books. youll have all the excuse to be a bot posing as a living creature aka human

@MiddlePath33

Жыл бұрын

“Don’t try to find the answers… when there ain’t no question here. Brother, let your heart be wounded. And give no mercy to your fears.” - Ed Kowalczyk

@odinsmeadhorn196

Жыл бұрын

@@ShawnJonesHellion I guess the same could be said about anyone's posts, pot.

Enjoy your videos Jonathan, but there is still no doubt that many of the symbols, practices and beliefs within the Catholic church are of pagan/occultic origin.

@albionseed4866

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, Judaism, Islam, and protestantism too. Everything in the world contains elements of what came before.

@worldhaslosttheplot9735

4 жыл бұрын

What was pagan about the protestant reformation? They did away with the papacy, praying to the dead (saints) and praying to mary, and just went back to sola scriptura.

@albionseed4866

4 жыл бұрын

A scripture compiled by a church accused of having elements of paganism. They also didn't get rid of all the holidays and their pagan symbolism. Nothing is done in a vacuum; history follows you everywhere.

@worldhaslosttheplot9735

4 жыл бұрын

@@albionseed4866 If your refering to the council of nicea AD 325, the books/gospels/epistles that were compiled together were the already accepted books of the early church deriving from the ascension of Christ. Dude, the early christians were killed because they didnt comply with the roman laws of the land (which included calling caeser lord)for roughly 300 years. As good as nicea ad 325 was at compiling the bible, it was also constantine who made christianity the state religion, and with it came alot of the roman pagan practices, ala roman catholicism, which, any true, bible believing protestant like myself rejects. But if your just after an argument and not interested in facts and scholarly research, i suppose nothing will convince you.

@albionseed4866

4 жыл бұрын

I said what I was referring to.

Magic, Religious and Spiritual practices are basically the same things with some minor differences of context and motives, I am Christian in a community here in Italy where it's all taken very seriously and with a focus on practicality, in growing up I was also curious and studied vary occult and spiritual practices and I was astounded at all the similarities of many spiritual practices (from the "Magicka practices" to alchemy to various form of occultism, but also more practical and less spiritual stuff like NLP and the whole Think and Grow Rich movement) with my religion, that made me appreciate even more the bible and church, we really undervalue the power of Religion and Spirituality and should be part of everyone (as long as it is made from a point of wisdom), I advice to venture out from your confort zone and study some other spiritual or even occult practices, some things and practicers are just bs but if you come from a point of wisdom you will learn so much you won't believe it

One must remember that the enemy is always twisting things, a lot of sacred and good symbolism have been twisted by the enemy.

Judge a tree by the fruit it bears,and none are innocent.

When people started telling me today that you had made a video response to my own video, I was looking forward to what I hoped was a high-tier and point-by-point critique that could turn into an interesting and fruitful dialogue. Then I watched the actual video, and that hope quickly vanished. The honest thing to do would have been reaching out to me for a conversation, to make sure you understood the points I was making and why I was making them. At the very least, showing my whole video for proper context - rather than taking one slide, as if it existed in a vacuum, just to put words in my mouth and tear down the strawman you built - would have been far more honorable than this kind of deceptive and goofy emotionalism.

@mostlydead3261

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't think that he was at all fair. Especially since he failed to name you directly mening that folks didn't hear your side of the story. I hope that he'll do another video on this, for several reasons - for example every other comment seems to be demanding sources for his claims about Masonry (tho I find it hard to believe that so many people never heard anything of the sort prior to this video).

@sanadayukimura1615

5 жыл бұрын

Brother Augustine clean your moms closet! - Jordan Gayson

@WhatisReal11

5 жыл бұрын

Accusation based on commonality of symbolism while ignoring context is crude goofy emotionalism, and actually dangerous... it is actually pushing YOUR contextualization onto others.... which is actually more akin to spell casting, than actual understanding which is what his response is conveying. Crowley drank water! Levi wrote on paper! Bush used TVs! Language and word is dependent on sentence, paragraph and context structure. Symbolism is simply pointing to meaning... those that cant define context around symbolism that is found in all human cultures and thought systems, are myopic super egoic buffoons.

@WhatisReal11

5 жыл бұрын

mostly dead “Sources” have nothing to do with his point. Humans coming up with symbolism to represent the world in and around them are going to have some commonality and overlap, just because there is that parallels and overlap does not mean those symbols are inherently bad. This point being made has nothing to do with “sources”.....

@TerickLamontVisuals

4 жыл бұрын

Yea he's saying seeing these symbols today doesn't relate to the meaning of the symbols in the past but isn't mentioning the actual events that happened that prove these symbols still symbolize the original meaning. I guess he's hoping we won't research the connections on our own. Too much emotion not enough facts.

Please someone tell me the font that is byzantine style but latin letters

@5:20 who's book? Can you please provide a name and or link. I'm curious about the criticism's because I have some of my own that I would like to further question.

I know what you mean. I can use a compass to draw a project or I can push it at someone's throat. The compass can be used to create or destroy.