Just say no to sourdough - Julie Bindel | SpectatorTV
Julie Bindel joins Freddy Gray on Spectator TV to share her hatred for sourdough bread. The women's rights campaigner usually writes about feminism and violence against women. This time, Julie takes aim at the 'bread-bros' - and Freddy Gray is one of them.
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I’m American, is this British humor performance art ? Or is she serious? She seems so sincere and never broke character. I’m confused.
@SamSamSamSamSam
10 ай бұрын
Both. There is an aspect of haha to how trivial the subject matter is.
@stephenpotts832
10 ай бұрын
More British eccentricity I would say
@magdamanoli8753
9 ай бұрын
Julie is absolutely right it's awful stuff. I went to a french restaurant and they didn't have any french bread, just the jaw breaking sourdough stuff. I'd like it banned.
@allrequiredfields
9 ай бұрын
@@magdamanoli8753Christ, how utterly bizarre. It's so much better than French bread.
@magdamanoli8753
9 ай бұрын
@@allrequiredfields We shall have to agree to disagree then. I'm not even a big fan of french bread but I'd far rather eat it than sourdough bread. I think it smells horrible and the texture is either hard and dry or tough and chewy. Give me a french stick or a brioche loaf any day of the week.
I love sourdough bread. Much more tasty than plain bread.
I've been eating yeast-free sourdough breads for decades for health reasons. For those with gluten and other sensitivities, it makes sense. Her point about the kiwi craze made me laugh; there's been a similar thing surrounding avocados in N. America in the 2010s. What advice she failed to mention was to just say no to instagram et al. Profoundly positive health improvements are just a 'delete' away.
@a.nelprober-rl5cf
7 ай бұрын
Preaching anti-social media is real edgy
As a Brit, I really love a proper sourdough and all rustic breads from all cultures.
Enjoyed his lighthearted diversion from the Spectator. So much of the content is so serious, this was a nice change of pace.
Fantastic interview, we found the real reason Julie hates sour dough - *MEN.*
@Frohicky1
10 ай бұрын
And South Koreans it seems.
@gravitaslost
10 ай бұрын
Lol. Clearly you've not had much exposure to Julies work, that is the general reason why Julie hates anything. Sometimes, as in this example, it's even justified! :)
@Philiptanzer
10 ай бұрын
@@gravitaslost I am quite aware how unshocking it was to discover Julie's reason. I thought the bolded caps were enough, I shall put some thunder claps and lightning next time.
@elleh3495
9 ай бұрын
@@Frohicky1yes, I'm upset about her lumping in of kimchi. she has no food history knowledge is what it's coming off like.
I haven't eaten in a restaurant for as long as I can remember, simply can't afford it, but I really enjoy hearing about which foodstuffs my betters are fed up with (no pun etc.) And such a renowned feminist to boot; I hear they have it hard with all the oppression and the patriarchy an' all. Hope you find some bread you like, Julie! In the meantime you could always eat cake.
I enjoy both making sourdough and visiting artisan bakeries. The bread Julie describes is not typical of my experience. Well-made, it can be moist, chewy, fragrant and airy, contrasted with a well baked, rich caramel flavoured crust. It need not be overly sour either. Golden brown, with a "rabbit ear" score, it can be a thing of beauty. Requiring a bit of effort to chew is no bad thing either - some of our modern dental problems can be attributed to an overly soft, mushy diet. Although the sourdough process is simple in principle, it takes a lot of practice to pull it off well. For example, experience is needed to know the right moment to stop fermentation and bake. There are many factors to consider, such as temperature, flour type and starter ripeness/vigour. Achieving perfection is a never ending journey. Well done Freddy for bringing your own loaf. I can see that it is somewhat under-proofed, which just shows that it takes practice. Keep going. For me, a YT channel called "The Sourdough Journey" really helped me get to grips with the craft. Funny thing is, I recently had a blood test for Coeliac Disease (an auto-immune condition triggered by gluten in wheat, barley and rye) which came back positive, so Iʻm going to see a specialist. I might have to give up my favourite hobby! Still, if it improves my health, it will be worth it. It brings to mind the song "Ironic" by Alanis Morisette.
Her comments on beards and man buns really tickled me! So funny...
@Frohicky1
10 ай бұрын
The same things on Feminists are empowering, I'm told.
@irisElee
10 ай бұрын
Julie has a great sense of humoUr. W/the stiff upper lip and all. She's a British national treasure, along w/ Our Fearless Leader Kellie-Jay Keen & Sirs Andrew Doyle & Graham Linehan (both Irish).
It toasts great. Love it.
I heard the headline included a piece about sourdough bread. I didn't get to listen to the show that day, but that night after first hearing of it, I dreamt of making sourdough bread. I realised it was a dream when I started kneading the stretching dough and folding in egg yolk. I smiled to myself when I woke up and realised, I had sourdough on my mind because of The Spectator! Well done for a delicious piece of journalism. Still no clue about the secret sauce making us so into reflections about sourdough!
If only all debates could be solved like this: presenting the evidence in physical form and having the opponent eat "them apples" or "just desserts" right then and there.
@irisElee
10 ай бұрын
With a chain saw.
Bagels instead of normal buns tik me off aswell
Sourdough bread is not “ posh” Just simple basic bread for the normal ordinary people
Sourdough is a traditional type of bread in my country and I'm delighted to see it more accessible in shops nowadays, in the past it was only found in Planet Organic. It's also much healthier than yeast bread. I get why it annoys some people as it is becoming a sign of class. You can slice it very thinly 😊
I love sourdough and bake it often. It isn't for everyone. Also, the starter does not smell vile unless you think beer smells vile. But I also like beer
@Zidana123
10 ай бұрын
I love sourdough myself as well, but to be fair not all starters are the same; they have different microbial mixes Some of them do smell... disconcertingly like BO It's possible Julie encountered one of those
@answerappearing
9 ай бұрын
@Zidana123 if the owner lets them go too long they can get nasty.
😂😂😂😂 She is funny!!!Not sure what she has at those fancy places! I love sourdough bread
I actually like the taste (from my local, non-fancy bakery but then again I live in a country in which all bakeries are probably better than the best British ones...), but I do agree that the crust is basically flawed and overall there's no reason to obsess about sour dough bread. More important would be to make 'normal' breads with the proper sitting time for the dough before baking it (according to a baker). Commercial bakeries don't let the bread dough sit as long as they should because they make more money by baking them too quickly. The crust of most sour dough breads really is severely flawed: it doesn't have to be like that. With proper moisturising and covering you can adjust the crust's composition and type to a very high degree, the crust absolutely does NOT have to be concrete-hard and all cracked up.
@JD83000
10 ай бұрын
Yep, what is expensively sold as hipster artisan bakery products in the UK, is just considered normal food on much of the continent.
I made it once. Not since.
@irisElee
10 ай бұрын
Read Nancy Silverton's bread book. Growing a fetus to a full term infant is nothing compared to making an edible loaf of sourdough bread. The former may ruin your figure but usually doesn't destroy your teeth.
I’ve seen an interview with her a couple times I love her laugh
@joebloggs1261
10 ай бұрын
She's great:)
Good piece.
I have bought sourdough a couple of times in recent years and always dumped the loaf after trying a slice The loafs can look appealing but I always find the texture and taste to be awful
@SBCBears
10 ай бұрын
"Me, too."
I don't know if this is meant to be sarcastic or what, but sourdough overall is very nice, but you can get bad examples of it. The really tough bread she is describing sounds like it's probably stale or just not fresh. I wonder if she eats the regular shit unhealthy bread from stores or just isn't a bread fan in general. Kiwi fruits can also be excellent when grown well, like many other fruits. Ah well, each to their own
Good video i do enjoy sourdough but i havent tried the high end stuff. Should i subscribe to the spectator as a bit of a scrubber or is it for tories only? Julie bindel and the man seems fairly posh and the logo / name the spectator are also quite middle class seeming
I bake a mean Sourdough bread.
At least she’s not bashing men.
5:33 the thump of the platter :O The thump of DOOM
Love it when waiting for my starter in a restaurant
Her knowledge on sourdough is shallow. There are all kinds of sourdough breads ranging from soft pillowy and rustic crusty ones. Sourdough is a method of making bread, not a bread.
@jmc8076
10 ай бұрын
Fluff piece for popular media not in depth dissertation.
Did you know people actually name their aspiring sourdough..like a family member☺
Love you Julie. Agree 100% with you re. Sourdough! Xxx
She must be eating different sourdough from me - I love it. The one from Lidl is pretty good.
@Archie.Fisher
10 ай бұрын
Not real sourdough.
@jmc8076
10 ай бұрын
@@Archie.Fisher Wow, no. But to each their own. Best you don’t try the real then find out how much it is. 😉 Husb buys organic 2x per mth from a local bakery. It’s the only bread they do. Oh My Lanta when it’s fresh and toasted! I blow up like a blow fish from intolerance but who cares. 😂
@jmc8076
10 ай бұрын
Sadly not the real deal. Find a small bakery. It’s not cheap but worth it.
🤔 Sourdough is the traditional way to make bread across the globe. Soft breads like Scotch Rolls as well as crusty farmhouse can be made with sourdough. The difference is the liquid content not the yeast.
Love Freddie. What a gent 🫡
Her reasons crack me up!!!😂 She doesn’t like it and the Berlin Wall! Won’t even listen on.😅
I read the article a couple of days and loved it... this is the perfect companion piece. I burst out laughing too when she tasted the bread and started laughing.
Thanks Julie... I'll give myself an IBS trigger and hours of stomach ache because some dumb terf tells me to.
I'm watching this since the site has a paywall
Just store it in a container with a piece of damp kitchen roll. Softens the crust and you're good to go. You can even use it for a crisp sandwich to eat on the train.
Read this as "Just say no to soubry" as in anna soubry. Which everyone has said no to. My Opticians appointment is next Wednesday.
She has a point! I agree with her. Some "artisan" bakeries overbake it and it is horrible. It does make my teeth hurt.. Bakeries need to change that or just we just need to make it at home. I'm Greek my grandmother used to make greek village aka "horiatiko" bread and it was very sour which some people dont like but i loved it.
Don't bin it! Donate it to me, I'll eat it all.
When sour comes sweet. Eventually
Sour dough tastes sour. Pumpkin spice sucks. Beer tastes like beer. I'm with Julie.
I like sour dough and love kiwi
I saw this yesterday and laughed so much at it. Shared on the bird app. I don't eat bread so I've never tried sourdough bread. I'm intrigued to try it now 🤣
So what is the secret ingredient that makes the posh stuff unpleasant? I know what she means.
julie is a star
May we have your recipe, Freddy? I'd ask you to mail a "baby" to me, but I don't suppose it would survive the cross-Atlantic postal service.
I actually like it but her article did make me howl with laughter. Very funny. Each to their own likes and dislikes.. I also love all the other breads she talks about
Over a bread she personally doesn't like...
Run Julie, Run for your life.......😂 xh
Julie has a great sense of humoUr. W/the stiff upper lip and all. She's a British national treasure, along w/ Our Fearless Leader Kellie-Jay Keen & Sirs Andrew Doyle & Graham Linehan (both Irish).
East Berlin in 86? Hardly!!! Like her usually but bit far. Sourdough’s good and I find myself getting not bloated by it. Can’t stand the artisan ‘scene’ myself but sourdough is alright. I’m not a hardliner.
That was more painful than her article.
Hilarious!
This is hilarious
So glad someone else is “over” the stupid sourdough bread. Hard, teethcracking crust, sour taste - whats pleasant about that? And toasted is even worse - gets harder! It ruins any food thats placed on it! Thank you for the wonderful report!👏👏👏🤩🤩🤩🤩
@francescaerreia8859
10 ай бұрын
You described why I love it lol. A nice crust on the outside, soft on the in, and a pleasantly mild sour taste. I don’t wanna put butter and jam on anything else if I’ve got sourdough.
@answerappearing
10 ай бұрын
Leave it overnight in plastic and the crust will be soft
@jenngodfrey632
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like stale sourdough!
@jmc8076
10 ай бұрын
I think much of this was Brit tongue in cheek.😉
We all have different tastes and who cares whether you like it or not. Of course artisinal breads are all different
@jmc8076
10 ай бұрын
I think you took it too seriously. 😉
enjoyed this but Julie seems to have missed the fact that it's all about the cook ... and personal taste 😉
leave kimchi out of this -seoul babe
Bindel's disgruntlement with the relative apathy shown towards her important, consequential work on sex trafficking etc is understandable. Why does anyone give a crap about this?
Is this comedy 😂 Sourdough is amazing if done right
🤣🤣🤣
Is there a female noun for machismo? In my opinion, so many women display huge amounts of it! It's certainly not just a male trait.
@smoothbeak
10 ай бұрын
Let me know what you find haha, are you female btw?
@pistonburner6448
10 ай бұрын
That word starts with the letter "c".
@diamondbackterrapin3401
10 ай бұрын
Machisma
Sourdough bread... never liked it, never will. There, I've said my piece.
@janegardener1662
10 ай бұрын
It's much better toasted. Crispy and delicious!
@SBCBears
10 ай бұрын
@@janegardener1662 I'll grant that possibility. Never got that far, tho.
@janegardener1662
10 ай бұрын
@@SBCBears Maybe you just have to grow up with it. I'm from SF, where sourdough is the local specialty.
Maybe she ought to learn how to bake it. Sounds like 'Sour' grapes!
I’ll say this, her controversial opinion made me rage click on this video 😂😂😂 She’s obviously good at her job. I mean, I totally disagree with her about just about every point bar one: food trends really are annoying. Every time some new flavour profile is discovered or re discovered by some segment of the foodie world, the rest of us are held captive to it. Like the raspberry balsamic vinaigrette phase. Or was it strawberry? I remember a lot of spinach and strawberry salads being shoved at me at the countless wedding receptions we went to for a while there back in the early 2000’s so maybe it was strawberry balsamic. Anyhow, it was annoying. So, on that front, I agree with her. It’s fine that people discover something they really love, but not EVERYONE wants that to be the only option. And even if you happen to love sourdough (which I do), that doesn’t mean it’s the ONLY bread I ever want to have offered me ever again. Kudos to Julie. She certainly got my attention with this one 😂
Is this… satire? This is hilarious. It’s just bread she doesn’t like 😅😂😂 this can’t be real
@irisElee
10 ай бұрын
Oh, it's much, much more. It's about class.
If by sourdough you mean brexit then, YES
@christinerussell113
10 ай бұрын
Remoaner alert. This comes from a sour loser, unable to accept the result of a Democratic Referendum. Still, it gives the rest of us a laugh, so many salty tears still being shed. Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.
I really dislike sourdough bread
Like Julie's other pieces, this is false. But this one is entertaining.
Totally agree, can't stand sourdough. Just make proper bread
@jenngodfrey632
10 ай бұрын
...you do realise sourdough method is THE original bread?
Is Britain full of bad bread balers or is the journalist lady a bit over doing it? Even in my stars of baking my bread was never profoundly sour, cut any lip or broke a tooth. And I was really bad the first 3 years. There was not much writen about sourdough arround 2015
Not wanting to sound like a troll, but, there are more things in the world to complain about than BREAD!!!!!! Over priced fuel,electricity and basic foods, just a few examples....
Is this a Red Nose thing?
Love Kiwi fruit and sourdough bread. Is this woman ill?
Sorry Julie, you are just wrong. Sourdough is far more tasty and healthy than ordinary bread. It makes the best toast. You are just uncultured 😂
She just seems genuinely mentally ill.
Said an attention seeking no.mark 😊
Completely agree with Julie. Sourdough is absolutely disgusting and I’ve never enjoyed a slice of it on or with anything. It’s crazy to me that it is as popular as it is. It’s gross.
Julie is completely wrong. She should keep on eating mothers pride
Down with sourdough (so called) bread
I love the hard crusts on sll breads all European breads are the best ❤️ yummy 😋
Her knowledge and experience is so limited. Outrage farming. 🙄
Are you jealous?
I’m hoping it’s a metaphor. Unless it really is a pointless article
I didn't hear more rubbish than her theory. First of all sourdough bread was not an invention of east Germany, it was around for many year's before This person should research before making statements. Publicity is what she is after. Everyone should eat sourdough bread.
What nonsense. If this lady doesn't like sourdough bread, fine, but don't preach about personal opinions. Choice is a fundamental right not to be attacked by the likes of Julie Bindel. Say NO to Social media............
Not worse listening this nonsense. It is a subjective statement, and says nothing about the digestibility. Sourdough is pure, from only 3 ingredients. If she doesn't like the taste, fine, but I bake my own bread (sourdough) because I LOVE the taste, and it is good for my gut.
Just wasted 10 mins of my ife on that.
Tedious reactionary guffage. Spectator decides sourdough is woke. Keep eating the sliced white eh?
Jindel isnt the most healthy person, so im not going to listen to her about food.
julie bindel: bad take factory
Can't stand the stuff. Tasteless and rubbery.
Silly cow
I thought this was going to be a criticism based on health or the environment, but it comes over as just a personal dislike. Incidentally why oh why is it women who most often make the most sexist comments. Violence against everyone is unacceptable - equally unacceptable - not just violence against women (or any other group singled out, based on gender, race, nationality, sexual orientation, or other).
I am so confused at her comparison to Berlin... Is this meant to be funny?
A tad dramatic in my opinion.
Hilarious!