Why was this class so bad? What class/position should I do next?

@marrmarbinks

2 ай бұрын

i dont think the class was actually that bad the teams that drafted them all had a horrible track record of developing qbs. they didnt even try to work with matt corral or sam howell really they just threw them out there and watched them crash and burn

@deakon071

2 ай бұрын

I like these videos. I think this is going to become more common as the college game gets more like basketball on grass and players never staying in one place very long to refine skills and just rely on talent. This year's class is another glaring example: Williams skillset DOES NOT immediately translate to the pro game and his maturity is questionable at best, Daniels was atrocious at ASU and essentially had one amazing season that started out rocky but benefited from 2 NFL caliber wide outs and his ability to make things happen with his feet (he won't be doing that at the next level). Maye is underwhelming at best but seems like a serviceable spot starter but likely backup. Nix is basically a gimmick and Penix is older and a lefty (minimal NFL success for QBS). The difference between the college and pro game has just become vast at the quarterback position

@kilowolf6341

2 ай бұрын

​@@marrmarbinks they were bad, stop the cap

@marrmarbinks

2 ай бұрын

@@kilowolf6341 Sam Howell was near the top of the league in yards and touchdowns. Kenny pickett had the worst oc in football, Malik Willis had a QB drafted the next draft on him and they probably moving on from both of them, matt corral played like 4 games in 2 years and Desmond ridder also had horrible coaching

@rezmetalpodcaster

2 ай бұрын

2012 QB class with Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins the only guys that panned out.

Joe Flacco had more TDs in 6 games than Pickett has had in 2 years

@SanguineMalcontent

2 ай бұрын

[The reanimated corpse of] Joe Flacco had more TDs in 6 games than Pickett has had in 2 years. FTFY

@joeterzio7175

2 ай бұрын

We'll see what Levis does. It would be ironic if the QB that was a backup to Pickett takes his job, wouldn't it?

@keithstewart8613

2 ай бұрын

That says a lot about how bad Kenny was because despite a Super Bowl ring Joe Flacco was not that good.

@Lee-ic8ln

2 ай бұрын

You have a Marcus Mariotta avatar dude. You shouldn't be talking about bad QBs.

@raychondrichardson7846

2 ай бұрын

Kenny "mittens "

Malik Willis was the biggest troll job the nfl has ever done to the media

@kingroyalty9621

2 ай бұрын

The craziest thing seeing this is all these teams had a chance to go after Lamar last season and all said they had their guy in the draft 😳🤦🏾‍♂️

@yanksfan6833

2 ай бұрын

Feel bad for the guy. He’s the nicest kid in the world but he’ll be in the XFL in a couple of years

@korryjones7371

2 ай бұрын

100% It’s insane that GMs and owners fall for all the BS about some of these dudes good or bad. Any scout worth a shit should know who is actually talented enough to play at an NFL level.

@brandoncowan4422

2 ай бұрын

I remember people had my Lions taking him at 2 and not Hutch

@Underdog_Sounds

2 ай бұрын

​@@korryjones7371 it's his coach 😭 dude was never a day 1 starter he was a project QB. Scouts had him as a project QB and Ryan specifically said he's not helping Malik or anyone under him improve and just focusing on each season. Malik has the talent, personality and overall intangibles but don't ask him to read a defense cause he's never had to. If he went to a team that had a veteran QB like idk buccs or some team like that he'd be a decent if not good starter.

I wouldn’t give up on Sam Howell just yet. Last season he was playing very well until he just collapsed towards the end. He’s still a young QB the talent is definitely there. Can’t give up on a young QB after starting one season.

@redwings0142

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. He has legit starting potential, and while he wasn’t blameless for his late season collapse, he was dealt a bad hand. I really hope he gets a shot in Seattle.

@lobsterlarry6481

2 ай бұрын

Ya im a Washington fan and it blows my mind how much of the fan base cant see what the real problem was

@DannyCalYT

2 ай бұрын

He even led the league in passing yards this season. I understant he had a low YPA but if you look at games where he passed the most thats where he really shined. He's great on his feet too and has so much potential. I'm very happy he's no longer on the Commanders lol.

@babybison2881

2 ай бұрын

He had Eric Bieniemy as his coach...he was destined to be mediocre. He will be a great QB with a competent coach.

@zpdrsn6315

2 ай бұрын

Dude was running for his life every time he dropped back, as an outsider I see a high ceiling for Howell.

Man the 2021 and 2022 NFL draft for QBs was quite rough. Only Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy from that class are projected to be their team’s QB1 barring a massive injury.

@TheOscar401

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, though everyone expected the 2022 class to be bad but 2021 was thought of as a possibility legendary class

@ronintje7647

2 ай бұрын

To me it feels like the 2021 class was mainly unlucky ending up at teams in turmoil or where it felt like they weren't really wanted and even used as a scapegoat by management. What better way to survive as a coach/manager than to put the blame on your young QB who wasn't given any help ingame.

@LeCommieBoi

2 ай бұрын

Howell may actually thrive with the seahawks when Geno leaves

@linus4693

2 ай бұрын

Justin Fields isn’t that bad

@RickytickyBobbywobbin-jl5oy

2 ай бұрын

2021 wasn’t that bad. Justin Fields is also good and will 100% be a starter again. And Mac Jones will probably end up being a decent backup. Only question mark is Trey Lance who we really haven’t seen much of. Zach looks like the only one that might not have a future in the NFL. 2021 didn’t live up to the hype but they got 2 starters and 2 backup quality guys imo. 2022 was just completely trash.

Purdy and Pacheco being late 7th rounders and also probably the best 2 skill players in the draft is crazy.

@dreadmez

2 ай бұрын

Pacheco lol please he's not even a Starter on most teams

@halfsquat2363

2 ай бұрын

@@dreadmezdo you watch football?

@Dadbot

2 ай бұрын

@@dreadmezoh ok. Wouldn’t be a starter on any other team but the team he’s on won the SB. Twice. He’s the first rookie rb to EVER win b2b titles. Get off the glue bro

@JYoung-fl8fc

3 күн бұрын

Purdy is meh he just has weoons and a great play caller.. not much skill at all let’s be real

The fact Desmond Ridder was drafted in the second round is utterly horrifying. That guy is a person who makes you turn off football kind of bad

@ldean7845

2 ай бұрын

Shit Kenny Pickett went 1st round 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ridder > Kenny

@redbluepurple6071

2 ай бұрын

@@ldean7845 brother, I can attest that you’re wrong. Kenny Pickett is like John Elway compared to that goofy ass Desmond Ridder.

@LoThaTruth05

2 ай бұрын

😂😂 Pickett is trash

@LoThaTruth05

2 ай бұрын

Pickett had weapons on offense and a good defense 🤔

@JustAGuyOutHere

2 ай бұрын

Ridder was drafted in the 3rd round fyi

Howell and Zappe were done dirty as hell, especially in 2023, their OCs were absolutely no help to them and much less their teams

@pascho1057

2 ай бұрын

I’ve been saying they should both get another shot

@hia5235

2 ай бұрын

Howell will start for the Seahawks either this year or the next.

@coldcatproductions7737

2 ай бұрын

Sam Howell through the first 10 weeks of the year led the league in passing yards. He has immense talent but had no support system in Washington. He could break out if he gets a chance in Seattle.

@xaviergardner1881

2 ай бұрын

@@coldcatproductions7737 because the Commanders were always trailing lets stop with that dumbass stat, they had no run game bcuz that idiot couldnt keep a drive alive

@williamford9564

2 ай бұрын

Kenny Pickett was also done dirty. Their OC ( who I think did get fired mid season) had no schemes using men in motion which eliminated a main tool the QB can do to read a defense before the snap.

I'm going to defend Sam Howell a little bit. The kid got the shit kicked out of him because that O-line was literally the worst in the league, and Bienemy doesn't believe in running the ball to take pressure off the QB.

@tomseaver9347

2 ай бұрын

As a Giants fan I agree with you on Howell. Giants had the worst oline by the way.

@user-en9qd5nx8w

2 ай бұрын

I thought Howell showed some decent play on the field last year, guess that's why he will be headed for a career of backing up. Not a bad gig actually.

@Lee-ic8ln

2 ай бұрын

Dude Sam will literally hold the ball for like 10 seconds causing the sacks. His oline played average but he made them loook terrible because he will hold on to the ball for so long. In the NFL you have 4 seconds top to throw the ball away.

@zzxmookysxzz4103

2 ай бұрын

Another old fart calling an adult a kid.

@Blood_Video_company

2 ай бұрын

@@Lee-ic8ln a bad o line doesn’t help , and neither does not running the ball

Kenny Panic the biggest bust in the class for sure.

@steelmanemason

2 ай бұрын

for sure

@Fender178

2 ай бұрын

As a Steelers Fan 100% Facts.

@yepdontcarebud

2 ай бұрын

Honestly pretty surprised, he was the only QB in that class I liked.

@MarvyG23

2 ай бұрын

waste of a 1st round pick

@tiyalewhitehurst338

2 ай бұрын

Kenny was always a 3rd Round Talent

Purdy being drafted last overall and seeing him became the QB he is today whilst other QBs on this list going in the 1st round, just proves all the combine nonsense, mock drafts, pro days, analysis etc is just a load of tripe

@antcantcook960

2 ай бұрын

Yes, let’s take the outlier as an example and now declare all analysis as “bad”. That makes no sense. What about the other of hundreds players drafted? Question, does draft analysis include the teams developmental ability?

@l.rongardner2150

2 ай бұрын

Thank you, Mel Kiper.

@darryljorden9177

2 ай бұрын

Pickett was the only QB drafted in the 1st round, so maybe the analysts did know something about this draft class.

@icantchangemynamefor90days7

2 ай бұрын

It’s almost as if he was surrounded by one of the most talented rosters this decade

4:45: Sam Howell is most remembered for being sacked 65 times in 2023, with 51 occurring in the first 11 games. This had him on pace to set an all time season record. The offensive was pitiful which had to make him gun shy, but he also had the habit of holding onto the ball too long.

Also I finally figured out my mic, I should have had that done 3 years ago 😂but i finally got good sound!

@planetraiderYT

2 ай бұрын

What mic are you using,?

Brock Purdy is the savior of this QB class ironically, the last pick of the draft

People wanted the lions to take Malik Willis at #2 overall which was insane.

This video was randomly recommended to me great video man insta sub

I was looking heavy at QBs the year before this one and really liked Purdy then. When he didn't declare and went back for another year I made a note to try and keep track of him, but forgot to.

Most quarterback didn’t have much of a chance Kenny Pickett and Ridder had chances but players like Malik Willis and Sam Howell are more project QBs especially Malik but there was the commitment to them

@CrazeReactsOfficial

2 ай бұрын

he was thrown in as a starter his 1st year

As a patriots fan, Bailey Zappe is actually pretty good as a starter, I like him better than Mac Jones. The only problem is he’s not consistent, he flatlines at times.

@amlazy9908

15 күн бұрын

zappe is solid. if he was given the chance to be the starter for 2 straight seasons you wouldve seen him take the pats to the playoffs

Going into the draft, everyone knew that it was a subpar class, and surprisingly, teams drafted like it was. In a normal year, someone would have made Malik Willis the Trey Lance of the draft and overdraft him, but he dropped to the 3rd round. Still pretty shocked Sam Howell dropped to the 5th round. I thought he should have gone in the 3rd and was really hoping my team picked him in the 4th. There is also a lot of "situation matters" in this as well. Pickett had the misfortune of being in a Matt Canada offense, so we probably never saw the best out of Pickett. Corral got hurt in his first preseason, then everything changed in the org and there was no place for him. Howell got his opportunity, but it was hardly ideal. Meanwhile, Purdy went to the perfect situation for him.

@moblinmajorgeneral

2 ай бұрын

Nobody thought Lance would immediately drop from injury, but as soon as he did, some people felt Purdy would have his shot because Jimmy G had gotten season ending injuries before. And Purdy delivered when he did start.

@amlazy9908

15 күн бұрын

pickett failed to outplay mitch trubisky. they both were playing in the canada offense

@amlazy9908

15 күн бұрын

when i say outplay i mean by a noticeable amount

Yes do another qb class. I liked this.

It's crazy how the best 2 QBs from that draft were from the 7th round. Makes you wonder how do scouts mess up that badly?

@redbluepurple6071

2 ай бұрын

Scouts are only interested in potential instead of actual production.

@Aiden581

2 ай бұрын

Nah Brock purdy ain’t good just got the best roster in the league carrying him

@Attack_Pillow

2 ай бұрын

Purdy isn’t bad, but he’s not great either. just a Jimmy G type QB that won’t screw up that much. But he’ll never win the game for you. It’s the modern Niners curse, they’ll have great teams, but never a great QB, which is why they lost their last 3 super bowls.

@Dima-bx1ut

2 ай бұрын

you mean 7th and 5th??? everyone else who was drafted in 7th other than purdy is complete ass sam howell is the 2nd best by far and still has very good starter potential

@aaroncosta905

2 ай бұрын

​@Lifesabeach91 The 9ers lost the last 3 SBs for a lot of different reasons, but the only one I would say was purely on the QB was 2019...

I remember when lions fans wanted Malik Willis at 2, what a crazy time

2007 still stands as the worst QB class of all time. It was literally headlined by JaMarcus Russell; that says everything you need to know about THAT QB class.

@maxstein2011

Ай бұрын

😂😅 FACTS!

Good Job

This is about what a QB has between the ears more so than their physical abilities.

If you think they are bad, realize that defenses are horribly restricted now. In truth, those QBs are even worse than you think.

Great video I really enjoyed watching, but I'm not sure you can call Corral a bust when he was a late third round draft pick.

@zpdrsn6315

2 ай бұрын

The third round can hold incredible value and for ur pick to essentially have the same production level as a walk on player is bad. I would consider it a bust

@ronaldwilson9525

2 ай бұрын

He never recovered from his Sugar Bowl injury.

The craziest thing is, look at every QBs left hand placement, close hand (low/no accuracy) Malik Willis, hand completely open (a lot of inconsistent and overshot balls) Desmond Ridder, and Hand even too the jaw and chest, as if you’re tying to cut the air in half (a lot more accuracy and better ball control/placement) Brock Purdy.

@antcantcook960

2 ай бұрын

Lol yeah they’re left hand placement is why the sucked.

@HeztheBarber

2 ай бұрын

@@antcantcook960 no it’s part of QB mechanics. So is pointing them toes and throwing with your hips, but hey. What do I know. Just a passionate football lover here. Nothing to crazy

The draft has always been a crap shoot. For every Peyton Manning there’s a Ryan Leaf. Joe Montana was a 3rd round pick, and we all know about Tom Brady.

Not sure how you can say that about Sam Howell. I believe he can still play and does have that IT factor. His last season at UNC who did he have to throw to? I'll answer: NO ONE. In fact, I remember him running a lot. Check the season before when he had weapons to throw to. As far as his time with the Commanders, Riverboat Ron was so out of it, he didn't know whether he was coming or going and Eric Beinemy was a joke at OC and did a disservice to Sam. If Sam gets with the right OC and QB Coach who can fully utilize his talents he will definitely shine. Don't give up on him yet.

Howell is the only one I can see ever becoming a starter/bridge qb like a Gardner Minshew. If you watched Washington games you know their defense couldn’t stop a fly and they resorted to abandoning the run and airing it out pretty much every game. No rookie qb could be successful in that situation.

@dennishill991

2 ай бұрын

I agree but with Seattle I can see him being their next Russell Wilson

@Chck314

2 ай бұрын

career backup

Your video is right on but I do believe that Sam can still but when Matt Carol was drafted by my team I was rooting for him every time he would play for my team he would just act like he is nervous but his attitude is bad💯

It seems that there have been a lot of quarterbacks coming out of college that have just not done well in the NFL in recent years. This has led me to wonder if it is that the quarterbacks are really bad or is it that the NFL has just become more impatient. It use to be that it was said that it takes about 5 years for a quarterback to develop in the NFL but now it seems teams are giving up after 1 or 2 years.

@alexjones6190

2 ай бұрын

Its like that in all sports now it seems like. 1 bad year you get written off

You should do a deep dive on Pickett, and show how the Steelers fired their OC mid season the first time they fired a coach mid season since 1942.

As a Niner fan since 1981, Brock was an insanely pleasant surprise.

So you're telling me that Chris Oladokun got a bench warmer Superbowl ring but Purdy is the best out of this draft class? Oladokun is so good, he doesn't even have to play to win a Superbowl. 🤣

As a lifetime Broncos fan from the very beginning----------1961-------I was really hoping we'd get Sam Howell. I watched how well he played against us & I thought there just might be real potential there. HOWEVER, on seeing how the rest of the season went for him, I've come to heave an enormous sigh of relief that The Payton / Paton passed on him. As of now, that 3rd Rd pick is our only Day 2 pick, & we need it . So-----------at this point--------it's Ryan Tannehill, or The Draft. I like Tannehill, but I'm guessing his agent wants way---------WAY --------too much for even a 1 yr deal. So, as of now, it's Stidham & The Nooch ; that's it. Personally, I don't want our team moving up too far if at all. McCarthy is now, out of reach . Drake Maye might fall, but of he does, The Vikings or The Raiders might move on him. if so, so be it. I like him, but I see a lot of work needed to clean him up. Michael Penix jr for me, just has Raiders Black & White all over him. And, he could be, scary good. For us however, Bo Nix should be who we target. I don't see another Elway in him, but I do see another possible Jake Plummer, a Broncos QB, I absolutely loved, & just hated to see end his career with that hip injury. Jake didn't have an Elway or Jay Cutler arm, but he could move, played smart, & his teammates loved him. He brought the team sooo close to The AFC Championship, & who knows what could have happened had he stayed healthy ? I see a lot of those traits in Bo Nix. So---------whatever we need to do to get Bo, I think we need to do it. We may regret passing on Penix if we do. Maybe, we take him ? Possibly, but I see an inevitability of The Raiders, with him, & Nix, with us. We'll see. I just don't want us to make a fatal error by once again giving up draft capital----------which to date, has cost us dearly !! ---------to get McCarthy. We have only1, maybe 2 players, any team would want : PS2, & Quinn Meiners. And I just can't see Payton / Paton, being that reckless. And for me, I see McCarthy & Maye as the 2 with the highest BUST potential ; one, McCarthy, because he is way over-hyped, & the other, Maye, because I see Drew Lock the 2nd . Remember, Lock too, had size, arm, mobility, & the numbers. What he DID NOT HAVE , & still does not, is footwork, & processing . In his time in Denver, Lock was THE most frustrating QB I have ever seen in Broncos Orange & Blue ! And maybe I'm wrong, but I see Lock # 2, in Drake Maye. Now, maybe, I'm FOS . But, what if I am not ?-------MJL, 77 y/o

I just watched whole video good stuff man yea I'm Pittsburgh fan and people talk about 2021 draft but 2022 draft was worse I think fields can still be big play qb was shocked Pickett wanted go eagles keep movies comming

It’s crazy how fast things change in the league compared to college

@irishspagetti6565

2 ай бұрын

I know, it's an instant gratification league, that's we see so many coaches fired after one year, quarterbacks thrown into the fire before their ready

To be fair aside from Purdy, most of these guys were drafted into horrible situations. Of all these guys, I think Howell still has the potential to become a quality NFL starter. There’s a lot of context that goes into why his season went the way it did, and now he’s going to a far better situation.

@Lee-ic8ln

2 ай бұрын

Bro stop it. They are all back up QBs at best.

@renaldoawes2210

2 ай бұрын

Purdy is just better than your QB. He's the most efficient QB in the NFL right now. Other systems let guys have 500+ attempts. Purdy isn't even given 450 attempts yet he still puts up more yards, more touchdowns, and more wins than your QBs. He shouldn't be putting up these numbers in this system. He's outpacing it by a long shot. Cry harder.

@redwings0142

2 ай бұрын

@@renaldoawes2210 When did I say any of those guys would be better than Purdy? Purdy is legit, but he was also drafted to a great team, both can be true. I ain't comparing Howell to him, all I said was Howell can be good. Is that really a bold statement? He had some good games last year and is going to a significantly better team. I don't give a damn about whose better, just that more than one QB in this class can work out.

@fernandezj7172

2 ай бұрын

@@renaldoawes2210wins aren’t a qb stat

@renaldoawes2210

2 ай бұрын

@@fernandezj7172 Were the other stats I listed in my comment also not QB stats? Or did you just ignore all of those? Stupidity is a choice, people.

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How did all these draft "experts" miss out on Brock Purdy and rank all these scrubs above him? I think a review of the 2017 NFL Draft QB class would be interesting to see!

@PlayerJay425

2 ай бұрын

I think you’re not giving the sf system and team it’s due credit. The team is so good and solid all around it would let whatever young player filled the qb spot the unique chance to play and naturally develop without having to be the main reason the team wins like most first round qbs.

@ghostx4747

2 ай бұрын

​@PlayerJay425 While true, Purdy has a great team. Purdy still has to play great football to make it the NFCCG twice & an SB appearance. Then you got SB champions confused why Purdy was selected last. So both are true.

@lMrFresno559l

2 ай бұрын

Sure he has a great coach and. system. So does Mahommes. Purdy has won 5 playoff games already and gone to the superbowl. He literally led the league in nearly every QB stat and threw for 31 TD. That is insane for his first full year as a starter. This is not just the system. You arent plugging any QB in and having that success, hello, trey lance. Purdy is truly special. You only had to watch his college tape to see that. The scouts fucked it up big time just due to lame size standards. @@PlayerJay425

@Chck314

2 ай бұрын

because drafting QBs is a total crap shoot, always has been always will be.

@GReid-ol5gk

2 ай бұрын

​@@PlayerJay425I mean yes, they have a fantastic system with great players. But the QB still needs to execute regardless of talent around him, no? They quickly pivoted from Trey Lance.

The thing is most of those guys were 5th year seniors so what we have seen from them is what we get in the nfl, which means their ceiling wasnt that high

The way Malik Willis was hyped, you'd think he was going to be the second coming of Josh Allen.

Thoughts and prayers, Malik.

Crazy thing is I saw mock draft from paid professionals that had Malik Willis going in the first half of the first round saying that you bench him for his first year and he’d be a star in the future

I really like Sam Howell, dude was killing it earlier in the season, wasnt lighting it up, but threw a few 300+ yard gamed and i think a couple 3+ TDs. It just seemed the team around him gave up and as a result his numbers dropped.

Corral went to about the worst possible situation, and Pickett showed the hazard of that sixth COVID year. He probably would’ve been a sixth or seventh rounder in another year. He did make himself some money. He was just maxed out.

The transfer portal us killing college football.

Interesting set of draft choices. Should Brock Purdy go on to have a successful career as 'Mr Irrevevant made good", they will all 'loom large in his legend.'

No way you can discount Howell yet. Dude threw for over 3900 yards in his first season with 21 TDs. Thats impressive by itself. What he needs to do is cut down on all those picks. But dont pretend that the guy didnt "do anything" in his first season.

@MrDcb215

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention he rushed for 5 Tds last year too. 26 total TDS

which transfer QBs do you feel will improve their draft stock the most this upcoming season??... example, TVD at Wisconsin...I think Sam Howell to the Seahawks is a low-key sneaky pickup for the Seahawks. Howell was put in a TERRIBLE spot early in his career. At minimum i think he will be a really solid backup QB with a chance to start maybe, all depends on what he shows.

Sam Howell is going to shine in Seattle. What that organization does with QB's and elevates their game is quite impressive. Drew Lock even looked much better and settled down under Seattle. Geno vs Howell will be a solid competition but wouldn't surprise me if Howell learns a ton under Geno year 1 and then can start for Seahawks in year 2.

I'm guessing the Stans defending any of these QBs (outside Purdy) are probably hardcore fans of whatever college they went to. Seen it first hand in Pittsburgh with Kenny Stans. Dude played 17 years at Pitt, had one great year, got over drafted, played horribly, and some acted like people were hating on the next Tom Brady. People called into radio shows saying the Eagles "fleeced" the Steelers, and Pickett will replace Hurts before the season even starts.

Howell is not competing with Geno Smith, he's the backup. Show some respect.

People say Penix was a bad pick by Atlanta, but many "Experts" wanted Seattle to take Malik at #9 in '22.

I still feel like Malik Willis still has potential… some team should take a chance with him

@lospabsent

2 ай бұрын

He really ain’t even get to play compared to other guys

@juwanlee3339

2 ай бұрын

Facts Trey lance want him to win too

@howdareyouexist

2 ай бұрын

he has potential in the ufl 😂

@Aaron-kj8dv

2 ай бұрын

If he didn't play with TEN awful QB situation last year then he's never playing.

@raychondrichardson7846

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kenny Pickett will become a pro bowler by 2027. I won the Super Bowl with him on Madden. How much more proof do you need?

What about the 2021 class 4 of the 5 QBs drafted in the first round have already been traded from the teams that drafted them. Never mind the garbage QBs that were draft post round 1? Even the 1 QB who’s been somewhat successful has vastly underperformed and underachieved as the #1 pick and supposedly the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning and possibly ever to come into the NFL.

Processing, character, 10 yard split, football IQ traits have been neglected in scouting community and too much credit us given to a huge arm, and physical traits alone.

Brock Purdy made all NFL media scouts look like total morons, yet they are still making the same mistakes for the 2024 draft. Phystical talent alone doesn't make a very good NFL QB

@alexjones6190

2 ай бұрын

Size definitely matters over the long run for pocket passers. Even 6-3 215 lbs is not big enough. You need to be like 6-5 250

@SuperSupersoda

2 ай бұрын

@@alexjones6190The last two QBs to represent the NFC in the Superbowl, both of whom came with a play of winning the game, were the 6'1 Jalen Hurts and the 6'1 Brock Purdy. You're absolutely right, lack of height is a problem for both of them; watch how the Ravens exploited that against Purdy in the Christmas Night game. However, plenty of QBs 6'3 and up fail. It's definitely easier if you're 6'5, but you don't absolutely have to be. Patrick Mahomes, the current best QB in the business, by far, is 6'2, for the record. He's also too short by your criteria.

@alexjones6190

2 ай бұрын

@@SuperSupersoda my criteria is more size than height, mahomes is 250 pounds and can take the blows... it's not an absolute rule either but you need to be drew brees and get the ball out very fast

@alexjones6190

2 ай бұрын

@@SuperSupersoda the best example i could give why it matters would be Ben Roethlisberger. He wasn't even that good, but he just never got hurt and took every snap.

We really need a scouting rating, on the scouts. Just who are these Pro's that rate so bad.

Most of these teams just gave up on them too early. It’s definitely not a strong class. Talent wise coming out Howell was the best one, but quickly fell apart at UNC. Pickett had Pittsburgh, but got some bad play calling with Matt Canada. Willis was stuck behind an old school playstyle of Mike Vrabel, but he can’t read defenses as well. Ridder just can’t read defenses, have seen him play and he’s not bad, but when you have Pitts, Bijan, and London open, but won’t hit them because your first read is Jonnu or someone else then that’s on coaching. Arthur Smith was garbage. Corral never got a fair chance cause he got hurt on the Panthers. Purdy was put into the best situation to succeed and develop. Overall, 2021/22 hasn’t been good. Hopefully 2023 stays strong for the future though

The future of the UFL in one video

@senseibrendon5803

Ай бұрын

Minus purdy

Purdy 🐐

Pickett failed because his confidence didn't seem to grow. I know we didn't see him much, and there was the blowup with Canada and so on. But during most of his playing time, he was so conservative and didn't want to try anything. When he actually had to win the game, he played great. But at no other times.

Sam Howell wasnt that bad, and can definitely be salvaged.

I called it 2 years ago when I said no QB should go in the first 2 days.. I was right

Honestly I already forgot who was drafted that year

It's called coaching ad team culture. I am sure if Trey Lamce were to be drafted by the Panthers he would be gone by now. It's not what talent you get, It's how you utilize the talent.

@SuperSupersoda

2 ай бұрын

Trey Lance was drafted by the 49ers, the same team that drafted Brock Purdy, and he's gone because Brock Purdy beat Lance for the starting job.

The qb bubble is going tonburst reaaaaal soon with all the over hype and the first team to not over invest but still be crazy successful will set the tone. Was hoping 49ers could pull it off. Still could be them

@LembeckIsStaying

2 ай бұрын

Eh, I'm not convinced. Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm a hater blah blah blah. But the Niners are loaded, once they pay him and can't afford all their stars then we can see who he really is. If he flames out or goes "Kirk Cousins", then it's right back to overhyped first round picks.

Titans had no reason to draft Willis. Knew Tannehill was going to hate on him. He was better off with the Steelers. They wasted his rookie year.

It looks weird when qb’s you gloves

If you thought any of these guys were next level gamechanging QB1s, you’re high as hell and only get your draft takes from the media. No one who watched college ball expected big things them these guys. Purdy went under the radar due to all the talent he had with him imo

Its almost like its was covid and no one was allowed to actually scout in person or interview in person forced only to rely on film with also a whole bunch of people sitting out for the college season because of the uncertainty

@katiecaddle209

2 ай бұрын

Stop using civic as an excuse for why the age were bad lol

Purdy had legitimate first round hype after 2019 season. He didn’t do as well in 2020/21 seasons and that’s why he fell all the way to the last pick

While we're early the only QBs i like in the 2024 draft are Caleb Williams and Michael Penix Jr

Well no one was off the charts great looking. Idk what anyone else expected.

i had so high hopes on malik sad he didn't work out

To be fair as a kstate fan, we all knew that Skyler wasn’t NFL starting material. We all felt best that he would be best as a back up for somebody.

Matt Corral has logged his first win with the Stallions in the UFL, now that the season is underway.

I feel like 2021. Most definitely is the worst out of the two in my opinion because how overhyped that class was compared to 2022. 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

Do one on how bad the 2023 NFL Veteran QB class was.

Corral did not want to play for Belichick 😂😂😂😂

NFL keeps expecting high school QBs to be pros somehow

Crazy to think the best QB in this class got picked with the very last pick of the draft 😂

I wouldn’t be surprised if Howell becomes the full time starter if anything happens to Geno.

Drafting a QB has always been a crapshoot. Just look at the track record of 27 1st overall picks that are QBs in superbowl era : -4 Enshrined : Bradshaw, Elway, Peyton Manning, Aikman 2 that ought to get the votes : Eli Manning, Stafford Burrow trending in the right direction. -6 certified busts :Plunket, Bartkowski, Couch, Carr, Russell, Bradford. Plunket ended up having a fine career, not for the team that drafted him. Young trending there so far, but it's just one season. Peyton Manning and Aikman both had forgettable rookie season as well. The rest of the crop is anywhere in between, some of which were worth their draft status. Newton, Luck, Bledsoe. What the 2022 story tells is that we'd think the scouts and GMs has learned to know better, they dont. But they still need to take a flyer on those guys. Chicago Bears, be warned!

The Detroit lions since Dan

Bailey Zappe was put into a horrible situation. Not only did he have to deal with the master class of Matt Patricia calling plays his rookie year, the QB room was toxic enough that he studied film with the receivers. Then he got to deal with rusty Bill O’Brien, Mac Jones being a diva, and a lack of receiving talent outside of Hunter Henry, Demario Douglas, and Kendrick Bourne. I can see Jacoby Brissett starting for 4-8 weeks before either Zappe or whoever the Patriots draft takes over. I want Mac to do well and have a Geno Smith style resurgence. He was put into a worse situation than Zappe, as he lost his trusted OC, and, more importantly was expected to replace Brady. Mac needed a fresh start more than Zappe did.

Malik Willis just went to a bad team, Tennessee was never known to develop Quarterbacks. Dude had no receivers just a Derrick Henry.

This gives you an idea how completely dysfunctional the Patriots' coaching & front office have become. A QB desperate to save his brief NFL career spends a few days in the building, then walks away without a word. He didn't even want on the practice squad. He'd rather waste away in the USFL.

Most of these QBs were overrated considering how weak of a class this was. Most of these guys project out as high end spot starters

I feel so bad for Corral

I think the issue with QBs in the draft is that scouts and media put way too high of a value on athletetism. The 2 best QBs of all time, Brady and Mahomes, have Dad bodies. When they go to the line of scrimmage they understand, more often then not, where each defensive player is going to be. That's one of the reasons Purdy is so good and the rest of the class wasn't. I don't think this years QB draft class is going to be any better. I think one QB might make it, and the rest won't get their 5th year option. And Da Bears will be looking for a new QB in 4 years.

Not even a 49ers fan but Brock is lucky his fellow draftees didn't set the bar high at all and damn did he pass the bar

Teams by and large do not know how QB development works. Some of these QBs were never pro bowl level talent but some do have talent but do not have the necessary coaching or system around them.

Purdy is the best

I’ve been saying how bad the 2022 draft class was for QBs. All of the original teams that drafted most of these guys no longer wanted them and traded them all away. The only solid QB in that draft was Purdy.