The Jupiter Class is basically an Iowa Class with two aircraft carriers bolted to it.

@Pyro978

4 ай бұрын

That's more befitting of the Mercury class

@OldDood

Ай бұрын

@@Pyro978 The Mercury Class is more like the Montana Class. The Montana Class was on the drawing board and came close to being built.

The Cylons didn't very nearly break Galactica's firewalls...they DID break her firewalls. Its a blink and you'll miss it moment, but when Gaeta (I think) was racing to disconnect Galactica from the network they were using, you see him bend down to pull the plug with the last firewall still intact on his display screen. When he pulls the plug and pops his head back up though, his screen in the background was showing that he was too late and the last firewall was down a split second before they had disconnected.

@khyronthethunderhawg6577

Жыл бұрын

This is how they led the surviving humans to 'Earth.'

@qfinck

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they did break thru the firewalls but you'll remember Col. Tigh ordered everything reloaded from the WORM(Write Once Read Many) drives to wipe out any Cylon infection.

@jeepinbanditrider

7 ай бұрын

@@qfinck They didn't completely wipe it out. IN "Valley of Darkness" the Galactica is suffering random failures cause by the remnants of the Cylon Virus and they wind up having a Cylon boarding party breach the inoperable landing pod in a heavy raider during that time as well.

@timwalkerfukyt

5 ай бұрын

Instead of spewing out the wrong facts why don't you guys actually start a conversation that really could go somewhere like why the Galactica was allowed to survive in the Pegasus was sacrificed at new caprica I mean that just makes no sense you automatically would want to keep the Pegasus more than you want to keep the Galactica she can build vipers on board unlike Galactica that can barely make ordinance on board

@bigal3055

5 ай бұрын

@@timwalkerfukyt That discussion has been done to death about a million times already.

I have an alternative theory for the 2 'non functional engines'. Galactica at the time of the show was becoming a museum, it had been stripped down from what it once was, lots of it's armour had been removed and some of its gun placements, even so far that it only had one functional flight pod, even after the second cylon war , Galactica never reopened the second flight pod, it couldn't as it had the mechanism removed, so it's possible that the two engines had their parts removed knowing for its museum function it would work fine with 4 engines.

@silvercrescent1264

Ай бұрын

In her final jump those two internal engines light up first... its just Sci misremembering

The designers of the ships really knew their stuff. There is a video that points out that the phones on the Galactica are set up to work without power so the various parts of the ship don't lose communications. The forward guns mounted on the underside of the bow were a perfect example of a set of dedicated weapons because they had zero arc of fire. Avoiding them simply meant moving away from the bow of the ship. However, Base Stars are not known for their maneuverability so having a set of stand-off guns to destroy them makes perfect sense. I'm willing to bet that the forward guns could be used for orbital bombardment, saving missiles and keeping the vipers close at hand for defense.

@Scott11078

Жыл бұрын

As a former engineer in the US Navy I can say those phones have been around for a LONG time. They're called sound powered phones.

The 2 dormant engines are auxiliary plants. The others are main drives and the auxiliaries are fired if the Galactica loses thrust. She’s old, newer battlestars don’t have to rely on auxiliaries to maintain full thrust, their engines are designed for higher output.

Honestly if you swapped the Battlestars to Star Wars technology, they'd be the most badass ships in Star Wars. But I love the Battlestars. 1 part Carrier, 1 part Battleship. All badass.

@sms1655

Жыл бұрын

a battlestar in star wars would be unfair for the empire/republic whatever

@kamenwaticlients

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. In fact on the same note retro-fit the Battlestars with Star Trek technology and the like and they would dominate and be the greatest warship in Trek history.

@seawind930

Жыл бұрын

A battlestar in Star Wars would be the Columbia class

@bigal3055

Жыл бұрын

At the very least, there isn't a fighter in the Star Wars universe that could live with a Viper. I guess a fairer 'Vs' matchup would be Galactica in the Babylon 5 universe. They both turn like a housefly, but I reckon a Star Fury could give a Viper a run for its money and then some on the manoeuvrability side. But then, would the Viper's rate of fire tip the balance back in its favour?

@seawind930

Жыл бұрын

@@bigal3055 Starfury only needs to hit once, and the pulse cannons on the later model Thunderbolts give a faster rate of fire but dogfighting always comes down to pilots.

the battlestar is practicly the "i want everything gone... in that general direction" or the "you see that there?..... i dont like it"

Those inside engines fire only once, that I've see. It is right after her final jump. When the ship recovers, they show a rear engine shot that shows all 6 engines firing up.

@lonurad1259

10 ай бұрын

pretty sure in the first season it fires a couple times. and by a couple times I do mean twice. Never seen it any other time

@cmsx1016

7 ай бұрын

I've noticed them firing a few times in season 4

@delsinhays6421

6 ай бұрын

No, they fire most seasons I just watched the entire 4 seasons back to back about a month ago. @@lonurad1259

@carter6619

6 ай бұрын

45:44 Of BSG Razor The Colombia has them lit up as it looses power from getting nuked five times.

I think face tanking the sun is now one of my favorite quotes ever.

@khyronthethunderhawg6577

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, this was where the immovable object met irresistible force.

@thesparduck117

4 ай бұрын

Chances are Galactica popped out the other side of the sun.

Only 1 flight pod worked because of the museum upgrade. The bar was in the converted flight pod.

@skipper4126

Жыл бұрын

Had to give the Cylons a chance man.

@treyhelms5282

Жыл бұрын

@@skipper4126 Galactica: "I'll fight with one hand tied behind my back!"

@smiddlehurst1

5 ай бұрын

"Sir, we've managed to amass enough spares to recommission the second flight pod!" "Excellent, how long..." "It, uh, does mean decommissioning the bar." "...." "Sir?" "We've managed fine on one pod up to now, just keep the parts as spares."

Forehead canon: the two central auxiliary engines constantly run at reduced power, and the exhaust gases are ported to reaction control thrusters, to provide maneuvering. In the event of engine troubles, one or both can be opened up, restoring reduced thrust during battle, or allowing other engines to be taken offline for regular maintenance without having to drydock her.

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

The Galactica was a Nimitz with the Battleship New Jersey and an Aegis cruiser in one.

Actually, Galactica’s history could parallel that of USS Lexington (CV16/CVT16) which was an Essex class carrier that served as a training carrier into the 1980s, after the rest of the Essex class was retired.

Galactica was the Colonial equivalent of the battleship Texas. Last of her kind, under armed when compared to new ships, yet can still take a beating and land iron where needed

@danielseelye6005

2 ай бұрын

Time to "Gangsta Lean" a Battlestar! 😁

While she may have only 12 missile tubes, it may be possible that they were "stacked", so you fire a missile, and then another one is jacked into the silo. And did they do MIRV with the missiles?

@jeepinbanditrider

4 ай бұрын

I believe they had MIRV warheads but I'm not positive.

This is a deliciously silly conversation between two good friends exploring a space opera. Keep it up please.

@scienceinsanity6927

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this. It's honestly kind of insane that you think so highly of the idiots over here at SCI that you'd donate, thank you man. I really apreciate it.

You guys would probably like the battlestar galactica deadlock game, its not everyone's prefered style of game but the ships and lore thats in it which goes from early in the 1st cylon war allthe way to the armistice i think and then theres some dlc which cover the new basestars, raiders, viper mkVII's and of course the Mercury. Seeing the mercury side by side with the two varients of the Jupiter class (no late war unfortunately i guess that would be a tad too powerful in game) you can reallt see the size difference between the two.

With modern technology, the next Battlestar series FX could be done in UE5 for peanuts.

In the last battle of the Galactica- there is a split second where you can see those two extra engines working. Just after the flank speed order.

I have never seen this channel before, but this is indeed one of my favorite science fiction designs. I love the military styling, the voice powered phones, the well engineered hallways for maximum traffic flow. It is excellent!

Hey guys. I was a fan of BSG back when Lorne Green was Adama. The later series, although better looking, and more accurate to the 'lore', was not as captivating to my older self. I liked the Battlestars so much, that I basically hijacked the idea for a Creative Writer's Group, loosely based on Star Trek (no Kirk, Spock, etc... just the technologies, but not the Next Gen and later). In that group, my aliens, were a bipedal feline race that was 50 percent larger (on average) than Humans. These aliens, rather than build massive numbers of smaller ships, built fewer, but Massive ships. I described them as an elongated 'faceted gem' shaped ship, with armored, paired 'bumps' along the trailing edge. These 'bumps' were armored panels covering the upper portions of Warp Nacelles, which were partially embedded into the main hull of the ship. In two rows along the spine of the ship, both ventral and dorsal, were Vertical Launch, Fighter bays. Recovery was in the Aft portion of the ship, between the eight armored nacelles. Central along the spine of the ship, both dorsal and ventral, were a pair of massive Rail Guns that fired projectiles the size of city buses or larger. Along both sides, and along the edges of the dorsal and ventral sections, were upwards of 200 quad-mounted, 6-barrel, rotary, rail guns for point defense, as well as over 40 Cruiser class Phaser banks. The ship also mounted over a dozen Torpedo Launchers... 8 to the fore, 4 to the aft, and 6 along each side. The vessel had a crew of 2400, along with a Marine Compliment of 6,000. The ship mounts 12 Impulse Engines, mostly clustered in four groups in the aft quarter on both sides of the vessel. Even with 8 nacelles and 4 MASSIVE warp cores, the ship was NOT 'fast', although it could keep up with most Fleet ships at Warp 7 or so. General dimensions: 2,657 m long, 742 m wide, and 228 m tall. The armor was my own creation. An alloy that almost requires 'printer' tech, or Industrial Replicators. I called this alloy TaC-TiC. Tantalum-Carbide and Titanium-Carbide, in molecule scale, repeating alternating layers. I had a friend with both a physics and chemistry degree work out the covalences of the atomic structure and its strength. It worked out to be around 70 times the strength of the best steels mankind can produce. And, it would have been at least 5 times the strength of 'Tri-Tanium' armor. There were two designs of the ship... The first one, as above, with 'only' 120 'fighters' assigned to it. The second, sacrificed the largest rail guns for three more longitudinal launching bay strips, and a further 360 fighters added to the original 120. A third version was postulated before the Writer's Group dissolved, which would have sacrificed ALL the fighters and the largest rail guns, for vertical launch, high impulse drive, missiles. Tipped with either very massive Nuclear, or Anti-Matter warheads. The only other ships my aliens made were Frigate Class ships that would leave anything 'Fleet' behind as if they were standing still. Highly maneuverable, and armed and armored like a Cruiser. Those ships had massively smaller crew compliments... 48 crew per ship. Half of which, in a pinch, would be 'boarding parties'. Another aspect of my aliens was that people were valuable... so they developed Powered Armor that made each soldier into a walking tank, that could fire a pair of Phasers, micro missiles, and a couple of arm mounted rotary miniguns for anti-infantry use. The writer's group lasted for over 10 years, before 'life' got in the way of creative writing. Ah, well.

@YurkerYT

7 ай бұрын

A race of furries, gotcha.

@davedsilva

7 ай бұрын

Fantastic detail

Canon, the Galactica was the first Jupiter The class name was the project codename, and why she has the late war design was she was salvaged and rebuilt mid-late war from an ocean bottom Source DEADLOCK is canon, per a lot of interviews that were covered by other channels and as OP as the Jupiters are in game, the Artemis is the win till at least the 2nd DLC

@shanenolan5625

11 ай бұрын

I imagine the Jupiter was first, I suspect, she protected the fleet yards at Scorpio . Galactica was the first operational battlestar. But she disappeared during her shakedown. . . In the tos lore, they were columbia class's and built at caprice fleet yards. .

@artbrann

11 ай бұрын

​@@shanenolan5625 for the RDM version they say during the mission briefs(Deadlock is cannon), that they named the class for the project's codename and playing the missions, at least pre DLCs, your protection at the beginning is crap Viper MKIs, a couple Manticore/Adamant you rock Adamants for a long time, and you don't get the Viper MKII till the 5th or 6th mission(I forget if you get it when you start the 5th or complete it)

@shanenolan5625

11 ай бұрын

@artbrann yes but doesn't the game start a few years into the war ? . The smaller artimis class was quicker to build and was mass produced while Jupiter's were under construction. Atena was an early one . And columbia one of the last made ?

@artbrann

11 ай бұрын

the RDM changed a bit vs '78 the game does start into the war, but like I said they state the Galactica was the first and the class was named for the project codename the Athena in the game is the one you are delivering to Picon, mission 2

@shanenolan5625

11 ай бұрын

@artbrann yes I was just reading about it. You're correct. Galactica. Was first. Then Athena for picon. I think it's 2 years into the war . . Do you know what happened with Galactica after the first battle of caprica how she ended up in an ocean ?

Great content! Keep up the great work.

@scienceinsanity6927

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit dude. Thank you so much, I can't express how much I apreciate the donation.

👌😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Jupiter Class Battlestars and on all of its functions,abilities and performance of all of its duties and Battle capabilities as a Battleship via Aircraft carrier and so forth and so on, A job very nicely wonderfully well done indeed Sir's!.

Just found you by the grace of our algorithm overlords and love the show mere minutes in! The banter, the soft tones of FTL music. Kudos so far gents. I hope this clip covers why so much of Galactica's armor was removed. I mean I get they're supposed one sidedly out matched and have to run rather kick some toaster backside (same reason I think they killed Pegasus. Can't have these darn fleeing meat bag actually putting up a good fight and even giving the Cylons something to worry about. But still, why?

How long can we keep up the: "Steve is the Sci-Fi illiterate" gag before he becomes literate.

@catgath9718

Жыл бұрын

Longer then we expect, shorter than we want.

@TempestsFist

Жыл бұрын

@@catgath9718 amen.

@geoff4383

Жыл бұрын

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In most scenes the Galactica is restricted in speed by the max speed of the Fleet. As most of the fleet is civilian, I seriously doubt they could match the speed of the Galactica on all engines, so they just don't use maximum thrust, ergo the two mid engines are not used.

One of the great things about the reimagined series was the deterioration got worse outside and inside the Galactica from battle damage and fatigue as the show went along. The image at19:02 was the Galactica in Blood and Chrome late in the first Cylon War in her prime.

Bro... Maybe it's just me but you have the same intro of Spacedocks. That is the spundtrack of Battlezone 2. One of my favorite videogames ever. Cool. 👍

It might be a tiny and insignificant thing to get hung up on, I know, but... I've seen all six main engines fire on the Galactica multiple times throughout the show and the mini-series, as well as some moments where they wouldn't. I know that most of the time people don't really focus on the engines when it's the Vipers we're trying to follow, or other ships of the fleet, so it might be easy to miss, even more so with the energetic camera movements and such... But those engines definitely all work, and most of the time too. Dunno which version of the show y'all were watching x3

Regarding the number of engines that was questioned in your video here. In the last episode, where Kara makes her blind jump, shortly after the images of the ship breaking it's back, you get a rear view of the Galactica where you can see the engines spinning back up after the jump. You can clearly see the two engines that are within the area of the aft hull spin up with 3 of the outer engines spinning up before the shot cuts.

I think the third Battlestar from Raptor's Talon was the Athena, I read that somewhere. And notably, the Basestar on the planet was what is later known as the Guardian Basestar with the top half of the modern class and the bottom of the old model.

Great episode guys!

There is NEVER enough DAKKA! Also, a modern US carrier can have a crew of over five thousand people, counting the Marines and the air wing.

To read the intro quote in Saul's voice took longer than it stayed on screen lol

Great video thanks for sharing

The launch tubes on Galactica 170 ft long and by the time the viper comes out the other end it's moving at Mach 3 plus

Honestly, Steve should just start saying "Hello Steve" in the intro.

the throw weight of that AAA lol

I was looking at the ships wondering why the just showed the new Jupiter class until I realized we are listening to a younger fan. I remember seeing Loren Green step onto the bridge when it first aired. Now that was a BATTLESTAR.

It was built to blow stuff up

"I am Fabio, get behind my face, I will protect you!" What I was immediately thinking when they were talking about Face Tanking, "My face is my shield". The origin of the Fabio line is that on a roller coaster Fabio got hit in the face with a bird. twice I think, and generally went "I'm okay". So a comedian joked about Fabio protecting everyone else with his face.

Don't kill Steve, we love the basement dwelling gremlin!

"12 missile tubes...I would like a 100 more ..." ROFL

23:18 - Since galactica was usualy tied down to the rest of the fleet and rarely on its own there was no need to "chase" at full military thrust-after enemy ships basically at that poing Galactica was a Goal keeper it had to stay in one place to defend the fleet so there was little to no need to actually go after things at full speed. thus no need to fire the main large drives - assuming they were even operational at this point - after all galactica was supposed to be junked anyway.

Did they forget about the scene where Galactica's internal engines fired up after making the last jump over Luna? That should've been their first thought initially. :P

Little tiny Manticore Class Frigates be like: Haha! I am Main Character! Galactica and her Sisters: “Shut the fuck up, peon. You are not HIM.”

I love that you're using the FTL music for this.

These battlestars are space cities. They can travel far away. 😂

Aquaria would need to conscript like a quarter of it's population to crew their battlestar, they were what, 42.000 citizens in the whole planet when the first cylon war started? I bet they got wiped out by a single nuke.

Watching the cannons deploy from the Galactica in the pilot episode made me feel so warm and fuzzy.

24:42 6 engines - 4 sublight 2 jumpdrives so yes 6 engines... jump drives are internal. the large back vents you speak of would be emergency vents for the jump drives if something goes spectactularly wrong. Either that or since galactica was already heading for democission those large two middle engines were already broken and there was no need to repair them since it was already going to be stashed and they were unable to repair them due to lack of parts during the war - basically the kind of situation where you need actual shipyard to do the repair.

When the "phones with cords" line takes a decade and a half to hit home.

Ghost fleet . Galactica ( acreron was destroyed beforehand) but another was present as well as Valkeri and 3 others of her class .and a many pocket battlestars ( orion , demeter) destroyers and heavy cruisers and carriers of various types. That third battlestar was named promethus i believe. . Apparently columbia was a bit different she carried more fighters than normal Jupiter's.

This is well done. sounds very similar to adeptus ridiculous

There wasn't a third pylon initially, it's a BSG : Deadlock addition, which caused a stir and then the dev team created a Galactica "modernized". And there was another Jupiter besides Galactica on scorpia shipyards which got destroyed and another one completly wrecked on orbit of Caprica I believe during the 2nd Cylon war. But that's nitpicking.

20g eyes in is survivable particularly in short duration. Distinctly extraordinarily uncomfortable, but nowhere near pasta sauce level acceleration.

@shaggybaggums

4 ай бұрын

I'm also curious if his maths took into account the length of the launch tubes that the vipers would have to reach those speeds. That could make the acceleration much more comfortable, as would the direction of the G forces since they are directed backwards and not down towards the feet.

@larsmurdochkalsta8808

4 ай бұрын

@@shaggybaggums indeed

hope the grav compensator doesn't fail.......

6:40 I here him say dakka and instantly knew he likes Warhammer 30k/40k

It's got around 54 to 56 decks for it being 200 meters tall

About the 4 or 6 engines debate. Maybe one of the following reasons for their never being used. 1) They were dismantled for their use for parts in a newer ship? Problem: how interchangeable are the parts? 2). They are being used for parts for the other four engines built in the pods attached to the outside rear of the ship. Problems with this: reducing the maximum speed And acceleration. Other problems? Probably more than I can think of right now, it is getting pretty late here...

We do see a Nova Class Battlestar at the Scorpio shipyards right before the Cylon attack

@Necromonger69

Жыл бұрын

Never noticed

What is the music you use ~20mins in? It's so strangely peaceful and serene it's giving me goosebumps.

@scienceinsanity6927

Жыл бұрын

It's the entire 'FTL' game original soundtrack. you can look it up on youtube and just skip to around 20 minutes since i legit just play it straight from the first track. Actualy here's a link. Enjoy. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIugqsype9DcmJs.html&ab_channel=SeveralthousandBees

@heavenknight18

Жыл бұрын

@@scienceinsanity6927 Nice. Thanks!

Its like the TF2 Engineer; "The solution? More Gun."

My favorite pc game is deadlock great video

I wonder if the other engines on the galactica are actually bow mounted. We see the Pegasus fire a pair of forward thrusters before doing a blind jump when being attacked dock side.

Steve you are one step away from intro greatest.. simply say "hello there "

"The Ram style of Zodiac Kenshido is designed to break your opponent's equipment with your head before they break your head with their equipment."

They don't "nearly" break through the firewall, they DO. It's a key plot point, and they even show several frame of the firewall being breached before they unplug the computers.

if you are in a Battlestar and the cylon is behind you, someone really frakked up bad

*rings a hand bell* Feed your Steve. *rings hand bell again* Feed your Steve.

They are the jump engine that need to spoil up.

Looking at a few cutaways I estimated a thickness of up to 10m of armor for the Galactica (a Jupiter) in some places, including voids (which are actually important for defeating certain types of AP munitions). That is absolutely insane and it would explain how she was able to take a fucking nuke to the face and keep flying afterwards. Also, that flak field would be a lot more deadly IRL. Nothing without significant armor would survive in the direction the CIWS guns were firing, and even then we are talking about hypervelocity fragments so armor might not be that effective. Then again, we can probably assume that a civilization that has been fighting wars in space for centuries probably has superior armor to ours

You Guys planning on doing like Game Universes too? If so I would LOVE to see you go into Warframe because HOOOO BOI there's so much insanity with so much Science to be had

Wel actually, if you reverse engines Electrically, they can produce power. The issue is that you burn up engine fuel. So there is a really "Bad" tradeoff. The worse your fuel situation is, the more Ugly the issue gets.

As I said on the Mercury video the facetank the sun thing isnt crazy. Nukes do not have the ability to slag meters of metal, they burn to fast and without the shockwave they dont produce a terible amount of destructive force. The radiation would be eaten by the metal and the heat would as well. You would ablate some but it wouldnt have the ability to burn through meters of metal. The only way to really make a nuke a certain kill on a ship is to make it so big that nothing can survive the radioactive hit (Nova Bomb) or to punch the nuke inside the armor so it DOES produce a shockwave by using the ships own internal atmosphere.

the orion, "and thats just offenseive"

Proper ship. Thicc in all the right places!

@SCIENCE INSANITY 21:55 Season 1 episode 1 named 33. right after it executes the escape jump in the first 10min or so and reappears with the fleet you're staring at the ass end and all 6 engines are lit up.. maybe those 2 big ones are the ones that instigate the FTL jumps and are only needed during jumps?

"Old classic games" Expecting the name of something I've never known or played because it predates my gaming history. "Empire at War" Ouch. Like, fantastic game. But damn do i feel old now.

Thete was a mark three 9 of them . Madeby the final days of the war or just after. ( block 2 ) 😊

Six engines. . Twin smaller you can see them in the image. The orher four quarters them . .in the show we see them ignite a couple a few times in consert with the rest

Oh heck yeah more BSG also Hi Steve

2:19 steve blink if you need help

Also I really like a lot of battlestar names

you eee all 6 retfire after the last jump when she breaks her back

Something else the peace talks were slread happening before the battle started. But in the deleted scenes of season two . A flashback. Adama and tigh drinking together .adama tells about the last week of the war a major battle, galactica is boarded and had 2 thousands casualties. About 5 days before the last battle. Also that task force started with 40 ships and two years later is down to 3 . .

Here we go again they show those center engines on the rear working in a bunch of episodes especially the very last episode in Galactica makes her last jump they're the first things to fire up

I was so hopeful for a BSG revival, but with so few good shows & such a high rate of catastrophic failure (SW, RoP, likely 40k) I'm really thinking we are probably just better off rewatching the old ones when need be.

Enough Guns = Extra Armor. If the Flak Turrets protect the ship by just being in between missile and hull.

The Jupiter class Battlestar is the Honey Badger of Space. Jupiter class don’t care. Jupiter class don’t give a shit. Let a Battlestar get close, and the toasters *die*. There’s a reason they went with a computer virus.

I believe that the two internal engines is the FTL DRIVE

2 engines in the front if I recall

Steve! :)

Could say those two inner engines are part of the FTL system

Extra engines are for internal electrical engines

What if these two unactive engines are jump engines due to that we cant see tgem in normal flight

Galactia was hit by several missiles, including one nuke.

the battle stars are a warship for all seasons,

Could be the two jump drives

the fifth and sixth engines are embedded in the main hull, find an image where they're lit.