Julie Bindel: The gender debate, 'scary feminists' and Pretty Woman | SpectatorTV
Julie Bindel is a radical feminist, journalist and activist. Growing up in Darlington, she left school aged 15, and at 16 moved to Leeds in search of - in her own words - 'scary-sounding feminists'. In the 90s, she founded Justice For Women, a feminist campaigning organisation that supports, and advocates on behalf of, women who have fought back against or killed violent men. On the podcast, Julie talks about her upbringing in the North East, her fight in the gender ideology debate, and she shares her thoughts on Pretty Woman.
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Its so refreshing to listen to a woman whose brain has not been polluted by internalised misogynistic crap. Absolutely do not keep quiet about the abuse of women or apologise for standing up for what is right.
@anonUK
10 ай бұрын
No her brain's swimming in misandrist crap instead. I'm still amazed at the number of rightwingers making common cause with JB over trans lunacy when she represents something just as harmful in her own way.
@incurableromantic4006
5 ай бұрын
Yes it's so amazing to get profound insights like - "Hollywood is not real life". I don't know where we'd be without such a titan-intellect.
"lobby MPs".? well therein lies the rub, most MPs won't define "women" and "girls"; How on earth can they protect (in law) what they can't, or won't, clearly define.
A good interview. I find it difficult to comprehend current trans ideology, but I recognise bullying and women are being into silence on this matter. Men have no place in 'women only safe places' or female sports, whoever they choose to identify as. But a man who wishes to live as a women, should be able to do so in safety and live in peace. Does this make me a turf!
@wooshbait36
Жыл бұрын
Yes it does make you a turf
@evacope1718
Жыл бұрын
@@wooshbait36 I'm a proud terf then. Lol
@Ash-gtr32
Жыл бұрын
How can he choose to live as woman? he's NOT a woman.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
Living as women... Bahahahahah it's not possible, which women are you talking about that these male fetishists are living as. They still have a penis and all the male cells, chromosomes, anatomy even if they don't have a penis They are not living as women. They're men pretending and lying about who they are. Clothes wigs nail polish and make up and shoes don't make living as a women. That's stereotyping.Males are not women. therefore cannot "live" as women. Rolls eyes to the back of my head.
@Adv18
Жыл бұрын
@@evacope1718 the word Terf is now outdated, they now call them FARTs
Good interview. I do disagree on the point with Julie regarding trans people have rights. No one is saying that a man pretending to be a woman can't dress up and dance around (snark intended). What is being said, and insisted on, is that a man pretending to be a woman is NOT a woman, and therefore they need (meaning a man pretending to be a woman) their own space. It really is a simple fix, but it is also one that men pretending to be a woman completely reject. There is no such thing as a trans "woman', as in not real. So, it is a hard no to allowing men in any and all female spaces. It is stunning to see women/females support the trans lunacy. Do they truly not understand that they are working toward the goal of women not being allowed to say no to anything? Are trans supporters, regardless of gender, really that dim?
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
ON POINT !!
@TheSapphire51
Жыл бұрын
Yes I am appalled at how stupid these women who act against the best interest of women have proven themselves to be.
@smokexsmoke99
Жыл бұрын
Transgender people have the same brain structures of the gender they identify as. It's been proven with brain scans.
@carmelmulroy6459
Жыл бұрын
Most men identifying as female are hetrosexual dudes. More than 90% keep their penises. We need to get that out there. The trans rights movement have hitched themselves to the gay rights movement we need to unhitch them. Autogynophilia is not a sexual orientation so it doesn't belong with the LGB
@simonclare100
Жыл бұрын
Definately dim
She's kicking at an open door when she takes the trouble to say that Boris Johnson is not a feminist. Boris, as everyone must know, is first and last a Borisist. Always good to hear from Julie Bindel, irrespective of the fact that she always says much to disagree with. She is someone who it is possible to have a conversation with, unlike the shrieking transharridan narcissists of either sex who have been vainly trying to deplatform and cancel her and everyone else who still has a moral compass.
@bdts35
Жыл бұрын
Why bother having a conversation with her? She’s an insane lesbian who hates men, so she’s not going to get us anywhere.
@mynnchloque1270
Жыл бұрын
Boris is AGP. AGP is conservative misogynist man.
@gazzamc1255
Жыл бұрын
Boris is a Borisist 😄😄😄😄 I just pissed myself laughing.
@heyhey9182
Ай бұрын
What, specifically, do you disagree with in what she says?
What an incredible and brave person. I'll be even more of a feminist activist thanks to her modeling it.
Thanks ladies!! 😘
Haha love what she said about Pretty Woman 2 😂
Sound quality is very strange on these podcasts... Music seems to be really blaring yet the voiceover is very quiet. It's as if Ms Ball's mic levels are weirdly adjusted to be flatter and quieter than in the regular spectator videos. I never noticed similar issues with other Spectator videos - could that be fixed somehow, please?
A time of the most unbridled misogyny in four decades..... I totally agree Julie. I'm in my 70's and havent seen anything like it really. The absolute contempt, and I think the misogynists are just relishing the permissions that exist to hate on women on behalf of rights for poor victimised trans
@goodlookinouthomie1757
Жыл бұрын
An epidemic of men who think their lives would be better if they were women. It's hard to make the case that they are wrong.
@mmc1086
Жыл бұрын
You put into words what I’ve been thinking. It’s the same thing that’s going on against Amber Heard. A certain brand of man is giddy with glee to have a socially acceptable way to openly abuse a woman with impunity. Sadly this certain brand appears to be the majority. I am 38 and left an abuser 10 years ago. I do not anticipate finding a male partner who meets my views and standards.
@goodlookinouthomie1757
Жыл бұрын
@@mmc1086 I think the average man is just "giddy with glee" to see a pathological liar get busted trying to ruin a man's career on nothing more than an accusation, as has been worryingly common of recent years. Even though despite the legal conclusion being exactly this, she remains the victim in the eyes of the usual suspects. Incidentally, I'm 46 and I also left a (female) abuser some years ago, but I have at least the wisdom to not assume she represents the majority of women.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely @Sheryl White, Absolutely!
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 He was already guilty of DV in England. It was already proven he abused physically assalted and he had to find a court in a juristiction several states away that wasn't like L.A state laws to win a case of DV he had already lost. then he and his Lawyer waged a campaign to trash her. You are a sheep. Go Jump like all the rest of you do. I doubt and do not believe you were abused. I reckon you are a provoctive manipulative abuser.
Julie Bindel is the female role model I have so desperately craved my entire life. I never saw her until recently, and by that point, I'd already become my own role model just like her. She is the hero society needs.
LOVE Julie ❤
Julie you are spot on 👍
Accompanying music to the show introduction is overbearing, one can barely hear the voiceover because the music is playing at a volume which one would find objectionable at a nightclub. Thank you.
Very nice to learn about Julie's early life and what shaped her. Nice interview.
Great interview! So happy there are women like you Julie Bindel -- keep up the good work.
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
Except for the fact she does nothing but promoted hatred against men, and always talks about destroying the family to rid the "Patriarchy".
@Anonymous-qw
Жыл бұрын
Why are you happy there are women like Julie Bindel?
@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448
Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-qw She has spent her entire life lobbying on behalf of women and girls. She's a storied reporter and overall great human being. Does that help? 🙂
@Anonymous-qw
Жыл бұрын
@@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448 Great human being, I don't think so. She has spent her life hating and trying to blame everything on men more like. Since these trans issues have started she has tried to hide her extremist views to make her acceptable to write in centre right newspapers like the Daily Mail and appear centre right TV channels like GB News. But you should read her earlier writings (some of which are available on the internet). In one she said all men should be put in concentration camps.
@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448
Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-qw I have yet to read where she wanted to put "all men in concentration camps" but I will look into that claim... considering I am a man at all (smile). All that I know about Julie Bindel to date is the opposite of what you believe.
THIS WAS A FANTASTIC INTERVIEW !! WHAT I WOULD NOT GIVE TO BE A MEMBER OF JULIE BINDEL'S FRIEND!! WHAT I WOULD NOT GIVE TO WORK WITH HER !!
As a male experiencer of (admitted) domestic violence by my ex-wife witnessed by our daughter (who was 9 at the time) , I’d like to point out that not only women experience such terrible treatment at the whim of others.....nothing is simple and it is wrong to stereotype anything.
@rhobatbrynjones7374
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about your experience William and domestic violence against men and the causes of it is a serious matter which requires attention. Unfortunately, the number of cases of domestic violence against women was 1.4 million in 2020, against men 786,000 in the previous year. So the number of cases involving women is double that of men. This is not to set one against the other but to give the discussion some kind of basic context. The other factor is that domestic violence against women is that it fits in to a more general pattern of inequality for women in wider society, employment opportunities and access to political influence being two examples. However the fact that a third of all domestic violence cases are against men is significant and perhaps does not receive the appropriate attention on the media that it should.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@rhobatbrynjones7374 of course, men are probably 3x less likely to report abuse. And that's a severe understatement. And yes, women often conflate things that have no logical reason to be included in the specific issue we are talking about. Weldone.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@rhobatbrynjones7374 I'd also say, that a lot of reported abuse is actually the police arriving and immediately taking the females side, as per their policy, meaning the victim is removed and locked up for being abused. But we won't mention such systemic issues.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@rhobatbrynjones7374 now, I don't blame you for having such a warped view of reality. I blame people like bindels. Have you ever heard of Erin pizzey? Perhaps you should look into her, here she is talking about why you are wrong. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYOlzK6eg6_HZps.html
@rhobatbrynjones7374
Жыл бұрын
@Tunnocks teacake N Often guilty? Where's your evidence for that?
Balls the fox and Birchall the cat engaging in a rampant Q nA! Brilliant, provocative and inspiring. Thank you. Xx
Julie Bindel is one of my heroes, her thinking is so refreshing to me she speaks just good common sense. We all know that prostitution, DV, Phornography, radical islamism, and now the trans movement are anti women. I am going to ask everyone who asks for my vote this year, how they are going to stand up for women, particulary against the Rabid trans activists. I hope every woman in the country does the same.
@snuffeldjuret
Ай бұрын
people who are locked in leftism no mater what should be discarded. They will only bring misfortune.
So many men playing "me too" and denigrating this woman for her views. Rather typical, I'd say.
@DoReMeaCulpa
Жыл бұрын
@Shelagh Corker, I noticed that, too. It is so typical though. Seems it doesnt take much for some men to find any excuse to denigrate women. KZread comments sections are well populated with men like that.
@shesalilsapphicokay
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Feminism is for women. Men's rights activism etc is for men. Both groups say spicy things about each other. IDK why this is so hard to understand...
@emilyb5278
Жыл бұрын
What has men's right achieved for men?
Excellent interview, thank you. While Julie's clinging to "the left" is a bit pitiful, we have moved past simple Left Right paradigms. While there seems to be a blind spot that sex work is increasingly gay men and Trans people, that porn is increasingly gay and Trans. I'm otherwise right on the same page. About the weak pathetic men who abuse women physically and (increasingly?) psychologically. They deserve nothing less than proper male style punishment. About the sheer misogyny of men dressing as women and seeking to trample on the inalienable rights of women. All pre-op of course. On the criminal justice system putting men in womens' prisons and safe spaces. About this rampant misogyny, mainly of the left, washing through academia. Feminists and male supporters with balls need to start getting A Lot more riled up and vocal. Even if it does feel like "oh what, again?"
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
Well, let's just remember, it was people like bindel who enabled them in the first place. I believe this Munchausen by proxy, or creating problems so you can be seen to be solving them, is just part of these folks play book.
@stewiemac4017
Жыл бұрын
@@curiositycloset2359 oh hardly!! the LGB organisations have been hopelessly infiltrated but we cannot blame Julie et all!
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@stewiemac4017 they built them, and allowed them to be infiltrated. No doubt backed them during it, and are now complaining about it to the people they built them to attack. I'm not blaming all of them, just the bindel types, who would definitely be in favour of this aggressive policy, if only she had more control over it.
@Ashakat42
10 ай бұрын
I'm curious about what you said about sex workers being mostly gay and trans now. Do you have a source on that stat so I can read up on it?
@stewiemac4017
10 ай бұрын
@@Ashakat42 increasingly ≠ mostly
Absolutely brilliant, love Julie Bindel and appreciate her comments in support of JK Rowling.
Support legislation in NY S8351 and NJ A4122 to BAN COURT ORDERED RAPE.
I would hardly call JK Rowling a radical feminist...
@Mikecores
Жыл бұрын
Yeah well radicals call each other and everyone radical, as they have little to no clue about reality in this monstrous victimmentality fest.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
Well, she did warp the mind of 100s of millions of children, soooo
@jeantaylor6318
Жыл бұрын
@@curiositycloset2359 no she did not!!!
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@jeantaylor6318 well, she did. And now her self righteous, nihilistic, and stunted charges have paid her back by trying to eat her. She has a lot to answer for that's for sure. Not that she'll ever understand that, she'll just act just like them, and they like her.
@jeantaylor6318
Жыл бұрын
@@curiositycloset2359 what nonsense!!
Julie, have you spoken out against the Pakistani grooming gangs. I only ask as I don't follow you, but am also interested in women's issues such as the erosion of their rights when biological males complete in women's events. I am a gay man and was married for 18 years and have a daughter and grand daughter. The reason I ask is that I never hear feminists talk about anything but the patriarchy. Most respectfully yours, David
@robleahy5759
Жыл бұрын
She clearly said that heroin dealers, under pressure from policing, moved into under age rape to replace their incomes. Brown people lack agency and are never to blame in her world view. Only the state, or white people can commit immoral acts. She really says this. Evil monsters are not to blame, someone else is.
@davidcottrell2243
Жыл бұрын
It's an ongoing abomination and it's incumbent upon us all not to let this issue rest. Both feminists and non feminists.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@davidcottrell2243 It's the feminists that get things started and done in most things about women & girls
@carmenspeer7796
Жыл бұрын
Feminists talk about other things apart from patriarchy. We talk about patriarchy when talking about feminism. That’s like saying “I only ever hear civil rights activists talk about white supremacy.” That’s what the movement is about: talking about that thing in order to end that thing.
@janicemitchell6950
Жыл бұрын
'Terms like toxic masculinity were created by toxic females. Real women don't do fake feminism ' Candace Owens
Yes! Great interview with Julie Bindel. More content like this, please. Katie Balls is excellent; no over-talking, no interruptions; she lets her guests speak and with the lightest touch steers the conversation - superb!
@Josh95x
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the guests enjoy her approach too. They can say what they like without being challenged, even if she at least played devil's advocate from time to time it would be more interesting.
@hughiemg2
Жыл бұрын
@@Josh95x agreed, zero challenges on any points make it feel like more of a puff piece
great interview.. and powerful insight at the end about not letting the cowardly bullies smell blood..
Love this, we forget that there is a whole lot more amazing work that Julie Bindel has done over the years and continues to, other than just standing up to the TRA’s and protecting women
The way she ran from Jesse Lee Peterson is still hilarious 🤣🤣😭😭 #chickensong🐔
God, her intelligence and humanity and her common sense make me want to be a better feminist myself... where do I even start?
@amandag5072
11 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. I don't have a clue where to start getting active as a feminist.
@LightSpell28
10 ай бұрын
@@amandag5072 find out about organisations and people in your local area who care about similar issues, maybe you saw a protest against surrogacy a few years ago, reach out to the organisers! if you're in a political party or trade union, find the women who agree with you. if you're in the UK, Women's Rights Network is a good place to start and get in touch with local women. find women in the real world, only being angry on the internet leads to more isolation.
She is a true heroine to generations of women. Brilliant!
@patolucaspato163
Жыл бұрын
it,yes it is a great shit like your words
@MrHighlander1963
Жыл бұрын
A true idiot more like
Julie Bindel has done so very very much for women over the years. She has sometimes bought into some of the divisiveness among those of us who are fighting for women’s rights in the context of extreme misogyny of dangerous gender ideology, and so-called ‘progressiveness’ - we need to stand together regardless of that which divides us.
@guff9567
Жыл бұрын
Stop being so sexist. What has Bindel done for men? Fanny Adams.
@karinelaxa959
Жыл бұрын
@@guff9567 Why on earth should she do anything for men? It’s not her mission nor her duty.
@guff9567
Жыл бұрын
@@karinelaxa959 EXACTLY. A born and bred SEXIST
@shesalilsapphicokay
Жыл бұрын
@@karinelaxa959 Right? I wouldn't complain about men's rights folks not doing anything for women, or about a children's charity not doing anything for adults...
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
@@shesalilsapphicokay But yet you feminists are always complaining about how men need to champion women, so I should I care about women when feminists (like Bindel) hates anything male?
One word - FANTASTIC
People consider her a man hater for pointing out what men do to women. 😒
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe people consider her a man-hater because she a man-hater. She wants to put all men in cages, what would you call that?
Music behind is too loud!
The feminism of germaine greer and such was always something I could get on board with. As a man of 60, I , like many men of my generation, looked at long term relationships as a partnership but over the years younger, more radical, feminism largely replaced the 60's version. The impact of this can now be seen with the growing number of males not looking to get married because they see no advantage in it. In many ways the modern women's movement is scuppering their chances of long term nourishing relationships with men. In many ways I've heard young women, especially of student age, spout feminist ideals when it is apparent they have only read the forward to a feminist handbook.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
And What have you heard the young men say? Anything different? What books do they read if any at all?
@keithlongley362
Жыл бұрын
@@paintitblack6728 For your information, you only need one question mark.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
What I need is nothing to do with you,I don't care for any information that comes from a MM clearly you are obsessed with me go away you are being a creepy male.
@collyernicholasjohn
Жыл бұрын
@@keithlongley362 I wasn’t aware. So, you have three questions in complete sentences but only one question mark. Does the ‘one question mark rule’ (presumably at the end) apply if there are, let’s say, five questions, or ten in a row?
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not a bad thing. Men got into relationships and expected women to be live-in maids and cooks. So, now that women have lives outside of taking care of men, men don't like it. 🤷🏻♀️ Oh well. Women are learning to be self sufficient. Men don't know how to handle it.
I respect almost all of what Julie has to say but as an old school feminist I was still absolutely astonished & horrified by the absolute discrimination my Son experienced in seeking access to his Son ( with no suggestion if violence ) It was the worst experience of my life as it broke my Son & smashed my faith in obtaining true justice in the U.K. as it was so skewed towards the Mother. Her recollections of being brought up in the North resonate so much with mine & my journey of leaving home at 16 & education later in life also reflects hers. It’s not Julie’s battle but as a direct result of my experience of the family courts I sure as hell think somebody needs to fight for justice for Fathers seeking justice in the family Court
@goodlookinouthomie1757
Жыл бұрын
When everything up to and including the weather is blamed on misogyny, it's hard to not involve men in the discussion.
@Ash-gtr32
Жыл бұрын
@Marina Ellerington You are not everyone's mum, but there are mums out there who cannot see their grandchildren due to the problem Star dust shared.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@Ash-gtr32 the family court system is a male run and the laws are man made. When you go out and actively address that problem get out on the streets, do the work then you'll see the males in their higher up positions actively doing what star is compalining about, this a male issue not a womans. Males create this why can you not see this ! They Make The Rules, Get It !!
@Ash-gtr32
Жыл бұрын
@@paintitblack6728 It is also an issue that affects the children and family not just men.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
There is so much misogyny, everywhere it's palpable. Like JB says When women challenge you, or any male on the behaviour you deny it claim it is true and then act like a misogynist to claim you are not one, it's insane
Excellent as always.
Many of the problems we are now experiencing with sex, gender and racial issues are a result of the feminist of the 1960s entering academia and claiming that men and women are equal and any differences are social constructs. These ferminists through feminist theory , identity politics, CRT courses created radical feminist activists who are now in our mainstream corporations. Feminists are quiet on problems with certain ethnic problems we have in the UK who are rapping our young women on an industrial scale.... Many many feminists are quiet on men claiming to be women and destroying women athletes hopes and dreams and they are quiet to the point of promoting the sexual transitioning of children. Frankly I am not a big fan of feminists. I have listened to her many times and I agree much with what she has to say but being the right feminists seems too much like the "No true Scotsman" falicy .
@scatton61
Жыл бұрын
@Tunnocks teacake N Don't know what you mean
@user-wt3wl3pm6q
Жыл бұрын
Feminists killed married and purposely did it, they books from the 60s and 70s make it clear that to achieve “equality” they need to take away that choice from most women.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@scatton61 the women they are graping are mainly workingckass, so they don't care. Plus, it gives them the statistics they want.
Absolutely adore Julie Bindel and thank her from the bottom of my heart for all she has done over the years and for enduring all the crap she's had to take.
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
You adore Bindel, even though she labels Men Rights Advocates who point out bias against fathers in family court and male victims of domestic violence as sexist?
I don’t even ‘identify’ as a feminist but I just love Julie Bindel, so logical and strong and anti-woke.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
Lol she's just the prototype.
@Claudia-es8jv
Жыл бұрын
@@curiositycloset2359 🙄
@shesalilsapphicokay
Жыл бұрын
Women like her, and Posie Parker/Kellie-Jay Keen are the heart of feminism to me (though Posie thinks it's time to give up trying to reclaim the term feminist). Lisa Michelle too, those she's less known.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@shesalilsapphicokay they were exactly the same as what they complain about, then lost power and now they don't like it anymore hmm
@Claudia-es8jv
Жыл бұрын
@@shesalilsapphicokay I’ll have to look into Lisa Michelle as I love the other two :)
Ofcom, yes Ofcom are displaying the 'Progress Pride Flag' (updated to include intersex) on the official Twitter.
@uterushaver8309
Жыл бұрын
"The Progress Pride flag was developed in 2018 by non-binary American artist and designer Daniel Quasar (who uses xe/xyr pronouns)." "Xe / Xem / Xir is a set of gender neutral pronouns that some people and/or organisations have adopted. For example, you would say “Xe is hungry” instead of “He/She is hungry”, “Please tell xem that lunch is ready” instead of “Please tell him/her that lunch is ready”, and “This sandwich is xirs” instead of “This sandwich is his/hers”."
@K_F_P
Жыл бұрын
@@uterushaver8309 I believe it was copyrighted too. 💲
@henazz2561
8 ай бұрын
That flag gets uglier and uglier as time goes by. It should’ve stayed as the original flag
@celiabarrett2107
Ай бұрын
@@uterushaver8309how is the "x" in those words pronounced? Like z or ks? Just out of curiosity
She started off ok but then classified any male activist as a sexist. Polarised thinking is not gender specific.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
Go Back and listen again, then use quotes" and tell me where it is said by her those exact words. because I didn't hear that.
Fascinating but I was a bit shocked about her aversion of mens' right's groups. The men's groups had a lot of very valid complaints.
@Philiptanzer
Жыл бұрын
Because she's a female supremacist flavour of feminist. Don't make the mistake of thinking the old feminists are good people, they want a clear dividing line between men and women not because they are sane but for the same reason Nazis wouldn't want Jews saying they're Arian (they consider it a vile blasphemy).
If a male guest said ‘if women are not threatened .....’ well you know the rest.
@spurge83
Жыл бұрын
?
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
Yeah but women aren't a sexual threat to men. Some men can't get sex unless rape. For women that's not the case and you know it
The statement about men should be afraid of feminism was an immediate turn off to even listen to this woman. You're getting feminism wrong if you think that way.
@insidiousmischka
Жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstand or choose to understand it differently than how it’s meant.
@fatelessfadewalker7180
Жыл бұрын
@@insidiousmischka what is meant by " men should be afraid of feminism"
@zannedaglio
Жыл бұрын
@@fatelessfadewalker7180 I think it means they need to take it seriously, to reflect themselves about how they don't. How they for example patronize women. I'm talking about men as a group, as a sex class.
@fatelessfadewalker7180
Жыл бұрын
@@zannedaglio anyone can be patronizing regardless of sex. Anyone can be an asshole. Regardless, does anyone really think that speaking to men this way is going to change anything? Doubtful
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
@@fatelessfadewalker7180 you're the epitome of what she's talking about. Instead of reflecting on her words, you just turn off the TV and continue to live in ignorance and don't want to change.
I love Julie Bindel. She is one of the few who fight for females and women’s rights.
Does the woman hosting this know that Lucian Freud once painted her portrait?
Brilliant interview. Thank you for the lucid, adult counterpoints to delusions.
Julie’s all right.but I have to object to the Betty’s jibe.Betty’s is fab,
Women nowadays have no idea how much they owe to feminists like Julie.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
People like bindel got us into this mess
@DoReMeaCulpa
Жыл бұрын
@Tunnocks teacake N sounds like you are projecting your own bitterness onto women. How pathetic.
@emilyb5278
Жыл бұрын
Yep women rights got us everything and get so many girls still claim they don't need them
@muiresuilgorm3452
Ай бұрын
People have short memories.
One prevailing ideology replaces another in perpetuity
I really needed this , great 👍
How will others learn about feminism if its not talked about though? Yes, it would be good if everyone was politically active and picketing. Also most of the feminists in this generation even the ones pro sex work, are NOT challenging men less and men are just as angry and annoyed about it constantly exclaiming that there is no need for feminism anymore, the idea of rape culture is stupid, resisting womens effort to end over sexualization/objectification of all women etc. So i dont know which feminists she has been following. Its actually the feminists that focus only on the larger issues (like Bindel) that they tend to be okay with.
Its frustrating for her to bracket ALL men who say that they too are victims of domestic abuse and the court system as men who are misogynistic and patriarchal is so frustrating and all she is doing is showing that woman are just as cold and heartless as they men they complain about. It's childish! I hate bad men too but so many are not
@D-Oliver
Жыл бұрын
She didn't bracket *all* men. She makes a few comments at various times that show she's not absolutist about these things. I think that, taken as a whole, the interview shows a balanced take which doesn't deny male victims.
@spm36
Жыл бұрын
@@D-Oliver she stated clearly ALL the boys at her school were awful....utterly impossible to state that...those who hate groupthink seem awfully keen on castigating groups themselves
@D-Oliver
Жыл бұрын
@@spm36 In the section near the beginning, she says "the boys", not "all the boys". Is there another part in which she uses "all"? To be honest, I think either can charitably be taken as a statement of the general rather than a judgment of every male pupil in her school back then. We, including Julie, all know there are nice boys and men around. To me, the message is she suffered bullying from (most of) the boys, which I don't find hard to believe. I listened to her relatively recent Triggernometry podcast interview, which I'd recommend. She doesn't come across as a man-hater.
@jeantaylor6318
Жыл бұрын
Tom T I know she is very militant but no one has an answer to why so many women are murdered by men?????
@robleahy5759
Жыл бұрын
@@jeantaylor6318 men murder victims way outnumber women victims. Men rape victims way outnumber women victims. Look in a prison. But what a well intentioned soul you seem...
Working-class chap here -- in school girls were not - "either a slag or a lezzer" - there were those categories - but the vast majority of girls were considered - as just ordinary girls. I heard that awful artist Tracy Emin say something similar -- I wonder why they lie like this, slander their class - these women?
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
Probably because it's quite common for women to have been referred to in that way. Just because you didn't experience it, doesn't make it a lie.
@Gozzillacia
Жыл бұрын
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet I did experience it. I went to a white working-class school, and grew-up on a white working-class council estate. I know how we boys talked. There were some males (creeps) who would call all women "cows," they would in fact call Mother Teresa a whore. But most of us boys wouldn't. There were a few girls, mostly damaged, who were "easy"- and who got that reputation - but only a few. Sadly - the influence of black culture has made the practice of referring to every female, but your mother, as a "ho" common - but that sad development happened well after Julie Bindall grew-up. I am not saying she was - but the women that do claim in working-class communities this was the normal tend to be the damage girls I mention above.
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
No, she said before they're was 3 categories of girls at school...Good girls, slags and lezza. You're thinking of the "good girls".
I like her. I don't really understand people's problem with her to be honest. Sure, there are some quotes that are pretty spicy... but that's just kinda par for the course. Because, at the end of the day, there's plenty for feminists and just women in general to be spicy about. Besides, men say plenty of spicy things about women. Lets be balanced about this. I particularly don't understand why people are holding past against her. So what if her past motivates her? She seems to be doing good work. Surely that's what should matter. She can't help having the history she does, all she can do is do good stuff and now. I'm not an expert on this woman, but she seems to doing good stuff now as far as I can see. Side note: might read her book Straight Expectations. Life has become a bit weird for us gays. On the one hand you've got many people shouting about how pro-gay they are, but really that's been totally undermined by the changing definitions of the words men and women. The voices of many lesbians have been lost in recent years.
I agree julie there is still a lot of negativity towards feminism ! It's so wrong that we cannot speak out about womens rights without cannot tarnished as man haters! This is why feminism is still needed n always will be!
@spurge83
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what gives people that idea about feminism....
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@spurge83 misogyny
@laurenjones2909
Жыл бұрын
@@spurge83 why is it always about men 😂 you clearly dont know the meaning of feminism! Until some men stop the rape and all forms of abuse of women we will always need feminism!
Pretty women is about the redemption of love If pretty women is so bad is Rambo and other films aimed at me which glorify war and combat If people are to stupid to realise films are fantasy that's on them
@Ashakat42
10 ай бұрын
Yes, male fantasy movies like Rambo with simplistic war motifs can be detrimental to society. It's not that people can't tell that it's fantasy it's that the background noise of culture laying out the parameters of what's normal with our fantasy. Just like fairy tales of old we pass down our collective knowledge in the stories we surround ourselves with and those stories shape the future as well.
Rosa Parks was arrested on December 1, 1955, after she refused to give up her seat on a crowded bus to a white passenger. On that day she would not yield to so called legal rights, because they ain't human rights. On this day no child of god should ever yield to people entangled in their own net of life, have we not learnt from our ancestors? So, let me read to you a poem by Maya Angelou which captures the essence of being a child of god, looking with love, compassion and sadness upon those souls gripped by the fear of their own mortality. Its not possible to become attached to the limited mortal debates going to and fro. We come to this earth with nothing and leave with nothing, our body parts vegetating to become top soil. Such expenditure of energy might be better purposed concentrating on the health of two vital organs, our mind and our heart. Over to you Angela,.....my sweetheart, to tell it as it is! "You may write me down in history with your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. Does my sassiness upset you? Why are you beset with gloom? ’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells pumping in my living room. Just like moons and like suns, with the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. Did you want to see me broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops, weakened by my soulful cries? Does my sassiness offend you? Don't you take it awful hard ’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines diggin’ in my own backyard. You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I’ll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I dance like I've got diamonds at the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts of history’s shame I rise Up from a past that’s rooted in pain I rise I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, welling and swelling I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear I rise Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. Much love PennyXxx Not a women, nor a transgender women, rather a gorgeous child of god.
Love her !
what a lovely lady! Ima ire those close to her tremendously enjoy that sweet sweet kind non-judgmental non-entitled attitude! 4min in and everyone else was a bag of shit and she was the best and everyone married and had shitty kids couldn’t raise but she thought there is more to life than “that”! our future is so bright with these type of brains in charge
That was wonderful, thank you. Love Julie Bindel, such an inspiration to women everywhere.
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
Well if you mean an inspiration to women by hating very man that lives I'd agree, but that's nothing to be proud of.
I've been married for 18 years and am a stay at home mother, by choice. I've never bothered with feminism because my mother, who worked from home in the 70's and 80's never mentioned the word. She showed me through her actions that I could do whatever I wanted with my life. At age 19 i got my first job, saved for a year. Then at age 20 I moved overseas for 4 years. On return I went to university. I ran the office of a mining company at age 30. Once I got married at 34 I quickly became pregnant and all I wanted to do was stay home and be with my son. Today he is 15 and I homeschool him. My husband is the more feminist one. He wanted me to work full-time to bring in more income. I'm not materialistic (never have been) so wasn't interested in money when I had a beautiful child at home who gave me more fulfilment. Some men are more feminist than some women are. I know because I married one!
@DonnaBrooks
8 ай бұрын
Your post has nothing to do with Julie's interview! It's not a feminist thing for you to work outside the home because your husband wants you to do so! Lots of ABUSIVE men don't want their female partners to work because they want to keep the woman financially dependent on them. That's entirely different from a woman who feels fulfilled in being a homemaker or mother. Feminism is about women's rights & freedom from the control of men! You clearly don't understand feminism if you think it's saying that women who WANT to stay home & raise children should go out and get a job outside the home. Feminists want women to be free to choose any career or job or business they want to pursue. WANT to pursue... Not feel like they HAVE TO PURSUE! If a woman is unhappy being a homemaker full-time, or if she just wants financial independence to take classes or engage in other interests, she should be free to get a part-time or full-time job, start a business, etc. However, if SHE wants to stay at home & be financially dependent on another person, that's her business! Women's work at home is still work! In fact, many feminists want women to be paid for their work in the home because it is so underappreciated. I think this is a good argument for UBI (Universal Basic Income) so that those women who WANT to stay home but HAVE to work outside the home to support the family can have the freedom to NOT work outside the home!
@lisasutcliffe5352
6 ай бұрын
@@DonnaBrooks well said
@wardygrub
5 ай бұрын
You clueless prat!
She's clearly aware of the worst sides of men and that's probably why she gives the impression that she hates them as a whole. The way she dismisses any concerns men could have is just as bad as those that dismiss women's concerns. Does this podcast ever challenge guests?
@manniefresh3425
Жыл бұрын
I would saw she just demonizes everything about men and takes away all autonomy from women. People can’t live in her idea and have freedom of choice cause she’s a purist and believes people, men more than anything, need to live without even having a sexual thought about women
Well, obviously I don't understand feminism and I'm not convinced this woman does either? Sounds like she's FOR everything and also AGAINST everything. Confusing to say the least.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
So you didn't really listen to the video then, bore off with you incompetency.
@kevindunne77
Жыл бұрын
Julie Bindel is not the brightest in the world. I'd honestly would to see her debate Jordan Peterson. He'd wipe the floor with her harder than Cathy Newman.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@kevindunne77 The god botherer that JP is his objectionable religious slant on women and his archaic ideas is repellent and misogynist. He doesn't have a scarick on Bindel you more than likely have not even read any of Bindels books nor have heard her speak over the decades or even know a thing relating to her life,Every thing! The mere fact that JP hasn't been around in these women's issues. What a pathetic comment lol Run along little kevin, go on git !
2 minutes in and the victim narrative is too much. Pass.
@shesalilsapphicokay
Жыл бұрын
I just watched the first 2 mins. She would have had to lie to avoid that accusation.
Interesting, thanks!
I like this woman but I do wish she wouldn’t make feminism sound like a good thing. It’s just the opposite of misogyny.
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
Sexual violence from some men is a problem and that's what she fights to end
It's really hard to hear your introduction because the music is too loud.
Thanks Julie for a great interview - nothing to disagree with at all, so don't know what anyone is taking issue with. Don't capitulate and don't back down are very important in the current climate of gender identity, Self ID madness.
Are there no men involved with making laws to protect women or supportive of feminism? Doesn’t sound like Julie Bindel thinks so. I like her story and I admire her courage, but Julie often sounds bigoted herself when it comes to men, not to mention stuck in a time warp. She’s too extreme in her views, lacking much nuance, to fully support. But she sounds like someone who wouldn’t care much for my opinion as a woman anyway.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
What's happening to women is extreme and needs an extreme woman.
Saw her with Douglas Murray and I thought she was someone to listen to but , you’re opening monologue about her makes me think she’s just as violent and crazy and unbalanced as the militant transactivists she ridiculed when she was talking with Murray.. committing violent acts against men or women and saying if men not scared of your feminism you’re not doing it right, that’s absolutely ridiculous ,you’re just like the militant crazy transactivists .. I’m gonna try and listen to the entire video
Really good interview and interesting to hear Julie Bindel's views in greater depth.
I’m glad I listened to this, Julie strengthened my belief about extreme feminism. I wonder what Julie and other feminists have done to help change the culture of a disenfranchised young boy who grows into a man Edited my choice of phrasing- men v man - since the feminist ideology enjoys generalisations.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
Well, they disenfranchised them, so quite a lot.
@edricawebb1578
Жыл бұрын
If you're a man concerned with changing the culture of a disenfranchised young boy, you might want to fight for that. Feminism is about centering girls/women.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@edricawebb1578 how about not fighting for the disenfranchisement of boys, instead? Seems pretty obvious
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
Feminism isn't about helping men.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Then it's not about equality and has disingenuous roots. I don't care really. Just think you should perhaps realise that you're being brainwashed and controlled, and should really have a bit of a think about feminism, and what it's really about.
Julie Bindel is ok on some points. Btw, Bettys is a lovely place if you like good food and tea or coffee. The fact that she slags it off because… well why does she hate it, its because she thinks only posh people go. Well I ain’t posh and i love the place. The only thing Bindel does is damage the feminist cause. She is right on the trans woman thing though. I expect that is because she is a self confessed man hater.
@robleahy5759
Жыл бұрын
She proves she's no philistine by saying she is an opera aficionado... plenty of dough for those flights!
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
She doesn't like men for relationships but she isn't a threat to good men. She is a beautiful person who has a pure heart. I think she has male friends but very few.
There is often a physical structure between communities. Railway lines main roads etc!!
As for her being anti-men... she is for sure anti abusive and murderous men. So I guess, technically, your correct. 😆 Sure, maybe she's a little dismissive of some men's issues, but at the end of the day that's not her remit and she never said it was. I'm really not seeing any bigotry from this woman, at least not in this vid. Men are spicier about women on the regular. Sort yourselves out people. P.S She's bang on about leftist, 'progressive' feminist men. Many of them really hate radfems like Julie, and they love to turn on the misogyny when it comes to them. 🤮
@spurge83
Жыл бұрын
No, she has an unhealthy dislike of all men.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
How true .. Julie Is Strong Smart Intelligent Witty, and a Warrior, for Women We woman stick together I'd Back her any day any misogynist male or female TRA and any disgusting abusive cretin that thinks they can intimidate.
I'm a great fan of Julie. More so now.
She right, I'll have to follow Julie bindel.
Yeah and I really support Julie for calling out the bullshit language used to normalize shitty stuff. Like porn and sex work. There are men oit here who are peoid of our masculinity and also respectful of women and supportive of the work she and others do.
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
She's has the most beautiful soul and brave. Doesn't hate men just calls out some of their unacceptable behaviour to women.
I can completely relate - I was called a lesbian in primary school by boys who were jealous/aware of my crush on my best friend, whilst I had no idea what the word meant. I guess the patriarchy can always sense when it's being challenged.
@curiositycloset2359
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a magical animal, much like the unicorn.
@Dacijo
Жыл бұрын
The hell are you talking about "I guess the patriarchy can always sense when it's being challenged" What mental bubble are you living in?
@cyclist68
Жыл бұрын
The standard left wing one. They remind me of abused wives constantly making excuses for their abuser thinking they can change them
@Diamondsparkle788
Ай бұрын
Men don't like being rejected sexually so yeah they do some men get jelous of lesbians.
Posh people in Darlington? Seriously? Posh people in Darlo? Are you serious? Darlington has posh people?
@jackmcnally9237
Жыл бұрын
Ane horsy faced woman conversing wi' a pug !
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
Are you serious Frank ? Yeh in Julie's 17th year of being alive, the late 60's- 70's. grow up.
have another cigarette
Hmmm!? Concentration camps for men and boys etc! I remember Bindel's final solution....
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
You sound positively burned , run a long now keep going ... yes keep going, run.. further... further more keep going ..
@pathfinderfergusfilms6630
Жыл бұрын
@@paintitblack6728 oh... matron...
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@pathfinderfergusfilms6630 fantasy of yours. ewww
@pathfinderfergusfilms6630
Жыл бұрын
@@paintitblack6728 every day..
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@pathfinderfergusfilms6630 when it's all you have.. sad, desperate, lonely, initial comment shows
Disregarding men's concerns is just as bad as disregarding women's concerns. Not getting the impression she likes men very much or at least has no empathy for them. Whether that's actually true or not, she will be turning some away from her
Watching from NZ where we feminists the real ones!! fight on...please do more for us to watch/learn xxx
@annetteannette9205
Жыл бұрын
Well said debs
I have almost always disagreed with JB inc today when she said about working g class girls not having opportunities etc what were or are the opportunities for working class council estate livi g boys? But totally support her ref trans debate and it is pathetic that she has been de platform ed
🙌🏼 JULIE BINDEL for never injustice apologising , 👍 - for speaking honestly. Respect to you Julie Bindel and all of us who sail with her 🥰🙏👍🥰
Almost everything she is and expresses is based in anger and discontent. I feel a lot of negativity projected on anyone who did better that she did. It's a pity for everyone who doesn't see that the role of the victim and blaming others for whatever is wrong in your own life never gets you anywhere.
@whatyouwaitingfor1027
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm sure she has done a lot, but her attitude is entitled and if she had her way we'd live in a tyranny. How she denigrated the boys at her school, she is mean-spirited, common amongst the caring compassionate side.
I bet I know exactly which bar in Harrogate ;)
Abandon the left!
Was it Hale's Bar? The gay bar.
Overall I like Julie - but seems to love the sound of her own bigotry at times. She and her social justice leftists helped create this woke monster.
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
Found the one of the several misogynist !
@carmenspeer7796
Жыл бұрын
You are grossly misinformed.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
Жыл бұрын
She didn't help create it. How could she when she was busy fighting it?
@almostafa4725
Жыл бұрын
@@paintitblack6728 ad hominem attack. Typical
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
@@almostafa4725 do you need a tissue to wipe your dainty tears LMFAO !
She has zero self awareness, how is she so prominent. Her childish dismissiveness of fathers, yuck
@paintitblack6728
Жыл бұрын
No That's the courts , the male run courts, and stop cherry picking things that upset you out of context, It really shows up what you are .
It would have been nice if Bindell had acknowledged that the Fathers For Justice group did have some genuine cause for complaint. Not all men are the perpetrators of violence in relationships; women can also be abusers, yet the courts have always decided that the woman is the natural custodian of the kids in any divorce or separation. Men can be the subject of violence, rape even. Not to acknowledge this, and to speak as though men fighting for specific rights are all somehow faking, or trying to sabotage feminism is a gross distortion of the reality and I don't think it reflects well on Bindell as the outstanding champion of women's rights that she clearly is. A little balance would have been nice.
@JontyLevine
9 ай бұрын
You can't expect Julie Bindel to cede ground on an important issue like that. It is simply not the role of feminists to waste time standing up for men at the margins because it's so hard for feminists to do their work without demonising men. They need to point out all the time that when society acts to marginalise women, it's always men's fault. When it can't be pinned on men, it's the patriarchy's fault, which is really just code for men. Men are so morally corrupt that they cannot even meaningfully contribute to dismantling said patriarchy. I mean, look at the way she talks about men having talks about how to help women. _Unacceptable!_ She will not allow those talks to happen unless women are dictating the terms. Now, I'm not going to sit here and argue that men are the more marginalised gender. What I am going to say is that each gender is marginalised in ways that the other is not. But whenever a system is set up that marginalises men in particular (family courts, HR departments, military conscription, criminal courts, etc.) any feminist who is worth her salt should pay occasional lip service to how the system "sometimes" affects men, just because it might be seen as bad PR if they literally did nothing. However, a great many of us would prefer if they did literally nothing about these systems. More often than not, they're actively campaigning to make them worse.
I loved J.Bindel’s comments about Pretty Woman + the never to be sequel. 😁 Most of all as a woman (female adult human) of 6+ decades I agree wholeheartedly with absolutely every word she spoke in this short clip. Julie Bindel I will now research all her words of wisdom on women’s “two steps back, one forward” unfair dilemma in which still us ‘€unt$“ suffer @ the hands of patriarchal 2022.
What an amazing woman!
I’m so glad that in the US we have several times the women in high position in government than 50 years ago, in fact three women on the Supreme Court. So now they will overturn that horrible decision 50 years ago by an all male jury.
@spm36
Жыл бұрын
Yes one was recently placed there on the merit of her gender and race by an old burbling idiot....what progression eh