Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Catastrophic Towers [Ring 9 Part 2]
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Catastrophic towers are among the hardest in the game, and the development team has a hard decision on which tower or towers they are going to add to ring 9. The community has their firm opinions and it is likely, each option is going to cause drama. This difficulty has a troubled history, in this video. We take a look at the options for ring 9 catastrophic towers in this part 2, and talk about the massive amount of history these white sticky mess bestows about us.
0:00 Intro
0:40 What is Catastrophic?
1:40 The History of Catastrophic
13:12 Where is Catastrophic today? [The Two Ring 9 Rominees]
14:04 The Issues & The Problems
20:24 In Conclusion
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Can we just appreciate that he called Cata a “white sticky mess”
@LuteyBooty
3 жыл бұрын
wtf
@SycipsGD
3 жыл бұрын
cu
@LuteyBooty
3 жыл бұрын
nonononononono
@user-gh9sv3jt3z
3 жыл бұрын
You need Jesus.
@YourAveragePersonOnTheStreets
3 жыл бұрын
*C O O M*
logan: white sticky mess me: oh no
@notshadyshad9286
3 жыл бұрын
coom
@whengaming9999
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@epic_obbyist4655
3 жыл бұрын
@@notshadyshad9286 LMAO
@oanhnguyen3189
3 жыл бұрын
oH nOoOooOo
@thecorrurtion215
3 жыл бұрын
Citatel ufo mums
2:56 a bit of a correction here, i was the one who had the idea to put STONE in ring 4, however obren told me that it should be reserved for ring 5
@SoI-
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, you are the real juke!?
@7cpm469
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoI- she is the real juke check her channel
@U_veee
3 жыл бұрын
hi Juke!
@ibnuhalim3399
3 жыл бұрын
Hi juke
@abood210.
3 жыл бұрын
aaaaa juke
theres nothing wrong with 2 catas in ring 9, this game isnt supposed to be free. Good vid nonetheless
@Logan_ISL
3 жыл бұрын
Nope I agree, it’s just some people don’t think that the space it takes up could be something that they could beat.
@burningdryice5422
3 жыл бұрын
@@Logan_ISL honestly, that's a really big problem with modern towers imo they're just too forgiving nowadays, with 203948494 safety nets, i mean yes not all modern towers are forgiving, we got coq even though it's a citadel and potentially toq for ring 9, but ktoh was supposed to be a rage game, and jtoh should be too
@Shtiefan
3 жыл бұрын
@@burningdryice5422 i personally don't think so... Think about ToUS, or even worse, ToIII with 0 safety nets... Safety nets are pretty good for harder towers, because it gets annoying to do everything all over again, plus, it's still a rage game, you don't know how much i raged at ToTL and ToDDD But if you really want to not make the tower "free" after the safety net, then make more outside sections in a tower
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
@@Shtiefan these two towers (ToUS and ToIII) actually have a safety net, both on f6
@Shtiefan
3 жыл бұрын
@@worktakestheW i know, i wanted to say that these towers would be worse in my opinion without safety nets
8:20. When that one guy beat that one hard tower and saw the GGs, he thought the entire fommunity was congratulating HIM.
I noticed that, when compared to their counterparts, the last ring/zone in each world has a higher number of potential towers compared to say, the first ring/zone. To me, this is meant as a means of giving said final ring/zone a sense of spectacle to it. The fact that its a more expansive ring/zone (especially with sc's) compared to its counterparts, the ring gives a sense of intimidation, which, as the final area in a world, is quite proper. It really almost coins ring 9 and zone 10 themselves as the "finale ring/zone" of their worlds.
Purist towers are only hated on if they have bad gameplay or don’t put effort in it really, purist is fine if they use it in a good way. Also a reminder tower of thinning layers is a purist tower
These are some of the best and most informative JToH videos I’ve watched, also GG on TT
@superluigidummy
3 жыл бұрын
d9vf has some good vids too
1:29 "this white sticky mess" me: AYO?
@theembodimentofuselesscont3221
3 жыл бұрын
He was referring to milk
@artificialsweetner
3 жыл бұрын
"BUT SIR MILK ISNT STICKY.."
@indwzz9441
3 жыл бұрын
@@artificialsweetner “NO MAN.... MILK ISNT THE WORD WE’RE LOOKING FOR....”
@name215
2 жыл бұрын
coom
in my opinion Ring 9 should have 14 towers divided this way: 7 SCs and 7 Non-SCs. Have 3 or 2 Intense, 4 or 5 Remorseless, 1 or 2 Insane, 2 Extreme, 2 Terrifying, and 1 or 2 Catastrophic. IMO that is a good way to balance the difficulties in Ring 9.
@rejubila4239
3 жыл бұрын
It has to have 2 catas since tocr and tocp:r are one of the best towers ever
@jhamerethedino
3 жыл бұрын
@@rejubila4239 and thats your opinion
@tristantheoofer2
3 жыл бұрын
yeh seems liek a good idea to me.
@huji-rf8hn
3 жыл бұрын
@Pz did you not listen? stone wont be added
@fireserpent9854
3 жыл бұрын
@Pz STONE was deconfirmed as a request by the creator, so it's not getting in.
"white sticky mess" hol up
@itszay6988
3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes- *gets transfurred* AAAAAAAA
@BaconPixx
3 жыл бұрын
Coom tower
@hau8856
3 жыл бұрын
seme-
@BILLYTHEOBBIEST
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@robinisaiah1088
3 жыл бұрын
@FurretWalc lol
if the range is between 12-14 towers, 12 towers ideally the best thing would be to confirm 2 towers for each difficulty in any case i do want to see both tocp:r and tocr coexist in game, it does more good than confirming only one would do because if only one of them got in there would be a group of manchildren creating an uproar over the one that didnt get in. plus having two polar opposite cata towers (one is relatively short and basically purist and one is very long and uses lots of really unique cos) would be pretty cool in my opinion lol
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
couldn’t have said it better, I agree 100%
“This tower would be beaten by Myfart fully legitimately on OCTOBER 18” holy hell that’s my birthday
@indwzz9441
3 жыл бұрын
dude thats my birthday too!!!!!!!!!!!!
@indwzz9441
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexH.81 say that to logan
@ReyCriete
3 жыл бұрын
My birthday Oct 19 :/
@indwzz9441
3 жыл бұрын
@@ReyCriete ooh
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexH.81 Bro, how do you mix up the towers so badly? Myfart8101 beat TOGF LEGIT NOT TOER DUMMY and crystal beat TOER LEGIT NOT TOGF. Logan is talking about TOGF NOT TOER YOU GET NOW??
Logan: Talks About Catastrophic Towers Me: Enjoys The ToIII Gameplay
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@superluigidummy
3 жыл бұрын
same
@iplayz4195
3 жыл бұрын
Same XD
8:20 Technically correct, but it wouldn't hurt to mention someone beat unnerfed ToAAA fully legit beforehand, which would've likely been the ring 8 cata if the part limit wasn't an issue (even though ToGF used unions to cheat the limit anyway).
“white sticky mess” *monster inc theme intensifies*
@IcebBlueQ
3 жыл бұрын
Citadel hurling unhealthy madness
@IcebBlueQ
3 жыл бұрын
C H U M
I like how in the live chat the person Panda asked when he will talk about Green Bean’s win and it immediately happens. I just wanted to see live chat reaction to that mention lmao
dude i love this series so far please continue it lol
what video editor do you use? just wanna know, it looks really good.
me whos looking at the ToIII gameplay 👁👄👁
@IcebBlueQ
3 жыл бұрын
Me
@errorobbies8907
3 жыл бұрын
@@IcebBlueQ :o
@floppyboi01
3 жыл бұрын
...
@errorobbies8907
3 жыл бұрын
@@floppyboi01 i mean, its interesting the gameplay
@magnar_1
2 жыл бұрын
yez
WTF I GOT AN 1 HOUR AD THAT TAKES 1 MIN TO SKIP IT BRUH
@Logan_ISL
3 жыл бұрын
What. The. Hell.
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
tf
@shaded076
3 жыл бұрын
wtf lol
he forgot the part where jastreet cheesed togf on release, which is how he got found out
8:46 that bass tho jeez
This series is super cool, hope to see more
@robinisaiah1088
3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@mylesjt
3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@owikoh
3 жыл бұрын
AG
@mylesjt
3 жыл бұрын
AG
Nice in depth explanation
great commentary but how many times did your voice crack
Re watching this months later, lets just look at how there are now 3 catas in ring 9 lol
in his previous video he said the CoCHS acronym in this video he said catastrophic is a "white sticky mess" idk if its intended or not but all these funny references kinda remind me of vince offer's commercials
7:24 I like how he says “spike”. Xd.
“This white sticky mess” Me 7 years ago in kindergarten eating marshmallows:
@Noobykid9999
3 жыл бұрын
7 years ago? It goes from kindergarten to 1st grade so at 1st grade I was 6 years ago. Then go to 6th grade it was 1 year ago. That means yippee in 7th grade and your age is either 13 or 12 because I’m 10 and I’m in 4th grade
@whengaming9999
3 жыл бұрын
@@Noobykid9999 yes I am 12
@formerly_xeni
3 жыл бұрын
@@whengaming9999 same lol
@idontunderstandanything3785
Жыл бұрын
@Fruit Team CUP!
In the video he says there are 9 ToER victors, and by the time I saw this we have multiple completions on a high horrific ToTRP (I even saw somebody beat it yesterday)
tower of champions road is already in game (sorta) in toif winroom if you walk back after beating it you will see a tocr easter egg
I personally am looking for ToCP:R to go in bc I find it a lot more fun, also, everyone loves fren so if ToCP:R does go in people won’t be as mad as you’d think. Also, Ring 7 is a lot more popular than you’d think, it’s a whole lot of people’s favorite ring, and it’s definitely one of my favorite.
@Tafn2362
3 жыл бұрын
honestly both should go in
@yocoloco532
2 жыл бұрын
Both got in
This is what I think should happen for ring 9, this is my opinion: I think that both ToCR and ToCPR should be in ring 9. I think this, because there is a part of the community that enjoys purist towers or doesn't mind them, and the other part of the community that likes client-sided objects. I do know that this IS a ring, therefore there are probably going to be 12-14 towers and half of them would be sc. This would mean that there would be 5-6 spots for sc towers that are easier than catastrophic. This would also mean that there would be 5-6 spots for Intense or Remorseless towers. (I think that Challenging should not be considered in this ring, since it's going to be the hardest ring out of all of them). One last thing, I know that a lot of players don't have enough skill to beat a catastrophic tower, but if you have to beat at least 60 towers, it would increase the chances of them having a chance at a cata tower. And for the obelisk, I think that there should be 2 safety nets and it would be high remorseless. Having the obelisk be low sc would cause controversy in my opinion.
ToAAA was actually low catasthrophic when it was released (and when it was reviewed) but it got nerfed (and voted) down to high extreme. this marks just how difficulty it is to have a CAT difficulty tower since the boundaries betweeen extreme and CAT are way too blurry. with the only thing standing between them is the ammount of bullshit moments it can have. and also the opposite the barreir between CAT and joke tower are also very slim making the catasthropic tower scene a very niche standard due to the sheer challenge it poses building one. ToAAA was going headfirst into being CAT (wich was its intention to be the hardest tower ever on jtoh) going trough countless versions and revisions in an almost 2 year development time and still with all that effort it got voted out of CAT and had to be nerfed to fit the modern standards of world 2.
@chinthestupedyay8778
2 жыл бұрын
I thought CAT standed for climb a truss difficulty lmao
what music is it when kaan first beated togf
Very amazing video, greatly describes the Cata difficulty but a bit outdated tho. (For the ppl who play FE2 go down) (ok so, if you look at the leaderboard you can see creeperreaper487, this is where i realise.. The creator of Overdrive play JToH now?!, theres definitely a source that says where creeperreaper went after he left FE2, but DANG, i wasnt expecting to find him in a 3 year old video on RING 8)
legends says hes still doing toiii to this day also i hope the account i put on poll is not my account for school
@otp2962
3 жыл бұрын
shit.
“White sticky mess” I really hope you didn’t just base cata off of a 3 letter word that starts with the letter c
@sneake_r
3 жыл бұрын
OH NO
@LuteyBooty
3 жыл бұрын
SHUT UP
@netyaroze577
3 жыл бұрын
man bazooka juice
@LuteyBooty
3 жыл бұрын
@@netyaroze577 DONT YOU DARE TELL ME
@bigbluepikachu
3 жыл бұрын
oh my god
I don't really know why people don't like crazy hard towers. I'm new to this whole thing, and in most games I play, difficult levels and maps are praised. I'm not sure though, it's kinda cool.
I think having intense as a starting difficulty is fine because when someone makes it to Ring 9, most likely that person has beaten a few intense towers and are likely enough to take down the intense towers of ring 9, although I do understand why you think challenging would be better because it would mean more towers would be beatable for people who maybe have only one or two intense towers.
@hatemastertenn1048
3 жыл бұрын
People who have unlocked ring 9 have at least has beaten 5+ intense towers or more/harder
2 insane 2 extreme 2 terryfing 2 cata only terryfing and cata have hidden rooms
@owikoh
3 жыл бұрын
what
@sangeetadhaniaignoremyjtar2346
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if every sc is hidden (that's probably what's going to happen tbh)
Haha i remember when you took a picture of the DC for a vid bc you were in my server when you took the picture of the dc lol
since its teh final ring.... 7-8 sc's and 6-7 non-sc's. also teh obelisk should be insane difficulty with teh safety nets
When he said “White sticky mess” Me: WHY LOGAN BROH
great video bro
2:03 why did they put getting gnomed at difficult what
"I think both you and I know how bad the JTOH community is." 11:17 Tripping LOTS of fucking mines here, pal. Good video. Keep it up. Edit: Goddamn I feel old.
@tomcatultimate
3 жыл бұрын
why do people think the jtoh community is bad? its just a community that aims to create a game. i mean the game itself is kinda flawed, but idk why people have a negative vision for the jtoh community also im really sorry if i get things wrong here, i hardly come into the discord nor talk in it so i do not intend to hate on people trying to explain
@ninjaandocean3345
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcatultimate since like 99% of content is made by the players, every time a dev makes or implements something everyone throws a hissy fit and screams like babies for a nerf rebalance or just to bully the creator Also there’s like a ton of underage kids who play jtoh so you know how that goes
@imnotporki
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcatultimate because if anything happens the community will turn into crybabies
@tomcatultimate
3 жыл бұрын
@@imnotporki and why doesn't it apply to other communities? why does it only have to be *jtoh* with the crybabies
@imnotporki
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcatultimate it does happen to other communities too
“This white sticky mess.” Is it white slime?
@fuggycolor
3 жыл бұрын
Logan out of context
If space is a problem with having 2 cata towers, why not just make more space? I really have no idea if this is even allowed but this just seems obvious to think of.
@immortalkeiji4451
3 жыл бұрын
Why not think of lag
@ribghost
3 жыл бұрын
@@immortalkeiji4451 if you can get to ring 9, you can already assume your PC is good enough to handle something with 500x less graphics than like adopt me.
8:17 Salveritie: about to beat ToNBA Kaan2005: beats ToGF Salveritie: ._.
I think whether the obelisk should be sc or not depends on whether it is required to progress in the game. This is because sc towers are not required to progress through the game and are only challenges fro those who are willing to take them head on.
yes there arent any skips in togf anymore right
Okay, this IS a ring NOT a zone. But, Ring 8 has 12 Towers and 1 Citadel so if it becomes Intense to Cata then both towers can get in with 2 towers per difficulty. Or, make one long Citadel for Challenging so 12 Tower and 1 Citadel just like Ring 8.
8:34 Ademiere was right below the timer lol
11:10 I was in that video lol
the more scs in game the more i can progress, i think a lot of scs are good but i wish ring 9s were spread out evenyly insted of being mostly catas and insanes
1:06 11* easy 1 medium 2 hard 3 difficult 4 challenging 5 intense 6 remorseless 7 insane 8 extreme 9 terrifying 9 catastrophic 11
Maybe 2 cata would be good for the last ring before tfs
Kaan is the no boost man
my guess is 8-10 SCs with 2 towers per SC difficulty + optionally 2 more SC towers wherever with 8 if it will have 12 towers, 9 if 13 and 10 if 14 towers in ring 9 so 8-10 SCs and definitely 4 non SCs also a possibility of 8 SCs and 6 normal and anything close that so just put both of them cause half of 14 + 1 is 8 so you can put 2 SCs on each difficulty ez
We need a video on Horrific
"White sticky mess" *o h n o .*
I fell like there should be only 2 cata scs, not only ring 9 should not be so hard for people who suffer on hard towers still in ring 1 and it is not fair.
"as ToAM was nerfed to terri" *after the ring 9 polls end ToAM becomes cata again* also, i know this was made WAY before ring 9 released
Fun fact when todie released there was no vm barrier
I definitely feel anywhere from 7-9 SCs
Great, awesome video Logan!
When kaan beat ToGF i was stuck in the basement of CoLS lol
we need horrifics soon
@NotAU
2 жыл бұрын
if totrp gets ingame when you beat it will you rebeat totrp
Now this is my favorite cheat channel.
13:40 oh hey you can see my name at the end of tocl submission (gg)
"to bond together in a civilized manner" hope you dream about it soon
18:56 i agree with the subtitles
imo, ToCP should be in Ring 9, and ToCR in the zones, because so far the only "purist" towers are in Zone 1 and zone 3 (ToTL, ToHH)
@NotAU
2 жыл бұрын
Tocr is not purist
I’m a pretty good obbiest, but I can’t even do ToK because I’m not good at long length obbies lol
@LaughGreatly
3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
What's your hardest tower you've done?
@TheBrokenVirus
3 жыл бұрын
@@nolifer3844 I just completed Tower of Cold Hands, I bet with my skill level I could possibly beat ToTL
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrokenVirus ah yes, beating ToTL before any intense towers hmm yes, i beat ToTL before ToAST
@TheBrokenVirus
3 жыл бұрын
@@nolifer3844 I never said I beat ToTL
13:13 sorry it was funny idk if it was a voice crack but LoL
Nice 1000 subs logan
bro have you forgot about aekiyra beating ToER unnerfed not in-game T_T
@fireserpent9854
3 жыл бұрын
Not even close to unnerfed. It was a bit more difficult than the current in-game version, but nowhere near the unnerfed difficulty.
Nil is too hard to even describe with words, believe me.
@Mike-739
3 жыл бұрын
Toohard
i think there should be 7-8 SC's and 7-8 non sc's
he called catastrophic white sticky mess :flushed:
1 year into the future. Both cata nominees got into ring 9...
"the tower would be beaten legitimately by my fart" why would you complete it and make this man say that lol
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
Because he made the username 5 years ago and does not have B O B U X to change the username.
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
@tsunami of the tsunami At that point, Roblox would probably be dead.
@owikoh
3 жыл бұрын
@@nolifer3844 see you in 4 years
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
@@owikoh probably not because i would either have quit JToH, died or got hacked.
@owikoh
3 жыл бұрын
@@nolifer3844 no I'm going to wait for 4 years and come back to this video to tell you if something happens and about you dying has a really low chance of being true
Friendly fart who is the closest to 100%: blablabla eieieeieiia
@teckerr0r
3 жыл бұрын
actually thegamerexeerr0r already beat the game a while ago
@Logan_ISL
3 жыл бұрын
@@teckerr0r nope. No one has beaten r8tr, meaning no one could have 100%’d the game.
every time i accidently click on one of your videos my ears regret existing
Who is watching this after ring 9 is released
“This white sticky mess has a lot of history” **W H A T**
What I think the Difficulty Chart should be: 1 Catastrophic 1 Terrifying 1 or 2 Extremes (most likely 1) 1 or 2 Insanes (most likely 2) Total: 5 SCs 3 Remorseless 3 Intense 2 Challenging (if considered) Total towers: 13. I think the Citadel should be possibly the hardest one in all of JToH (above Peril) or equal to Peril so at least the hardest Great Inferno Citadel.
@arandomyoutubeuser8204
3 жыл бұрын
To be more specific, Mid-High Catastrophic (Not harder than unnerfed Elongated, just below) Mid Terrifying High and Low Mid Extreme Low and High Insane (These seem okay as they equal out each other with other SCs imo like you can do the terrifying before or after Impossible Movement.)
@arandomyoutubeuser8204
3 жыл бұрын
For non-SCs, I'd say a High, Mid and Low Remorseless and it would be High and 2 mid Intenses but two High Challengings to make it more like the Original Ring 9 DC.
@wakeupthewublins69
3 жыл бұрын
and above CoQ since CoQ is harder than CoP and they are both in the game
@gamerhurley
Жыл бұрын
ah yes, cows moment.
hey i think i saw u in obelisk of impossible difficulty chart
14:21 there's also tower of watermelon i think its going to be in the game
@imnotporki
3 жыл бұрын
Was it nerfed? Because if not its gonna be high-borderline cata
@shaded076
3 жыл бұрын
@@imnotporki im pretty sure wasabi buffed it back to high cata lol
@imnotporki
3 жыл бұрын
@@shaded076 yes
Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Juke's Towers of Hell
Just add em both, we got more than enough SCs for R9.
What about the “final stretch” ring .-.
1) Gamma’s message on TFS wasn’t a concrete fact. I was there during numerous discussions about TFS. It was more-so a possibility (though a somewhat high one. And the point about the difficulty definitely wasn’t concrete fact.) 2) It has been stated numerous times that Ring 9 will most likely be around 75% SC. 3) I don’t think 2 catastrophic towers is a bad idea. It is, the final ring, and the greatest challenge of W1. It is more challenge for the experienced players. Yes, that is a small percentage, but that group is certainly there. The less skilled population already have a ton of content (over 90 non-SC towers in W1), I don’t think adding more content for the more skilled playerbase will do any harm. 4) Honestly, I don’t think your point about ToCR being more popular than ToCP is accurate. ToCR only seems more popular because it has been around for much longer. Overall, I wouldn’t be surprised if a decent majority of the community prefers ToCP, for numerous reasons.
@worktakestheW
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with these statements
@nolifer3844
3 жыл бұрын
Point A: I pretty sure at least 50% of the community have already unlocked Ring 9. Point B: adding more and more content can be harmful is because of too many towers like me right now, should i try to beat ToDC and be done with Ring 2? Do i try to beat Forgotten Ridge? Should i try to beat ToIII? Point C: ToCP:R is the one that the commnity has their eyes on the most and Purism being hated as it is seen as a lame way to not use COs or the Kit, This was said in the video. And the reason is because of ToTL being one of the worst SC towers and ToHH having no other colo(u)rs other then black and white.
About two thirds should be soul crushing, I don't see a problem with having 2 intense and 2 remorseless towers. My skill level would only let me beat 2-3 of the towers in the world where I decide but I wouldn't care because it's the final ring. My DC: Intense Intense Remorseless Remorseless Insane Insane Extreme Extreme Terrifying Terrifying Catastrophic Catastrophic Low Insane Obelisk with one major safety net (and outside protection for about 3 floors) If there was just one cata I would never vote for ToCR because it just feels like a bad tower to me even though I generally like purist towers. There are more ways to make cata gameplay than truss spam.
@Swarps
3 жыл бұрын
Ring 9 will not have an obelisk.
@Phelena
3 жыл бұрын
@@Swarps 'My DC' The obelisk could be in TFS.
why did I think this was KonekoKitten because of his voice bruh
@koijtoh
3 жыл бұрын
😂
Oh wait u were the guy that annoys Cll0y ay CoP
Thought this was KonekoKitten at the beggining of the video
"white sticky mess" YOU GOTTA STOP OMG