Josh Pate On The Big12 Winning A National Title (Late Kick Cut)

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The Big12 has several new members while some old ones have left, and on Late Kick Live Ep 515 Josh Pate discussed how significant it would be if a Big12 team ended up winning the College Football Playoff in the first year of the expanded format. Which team (if any) could pull this off? Will Utah or Arizona win it as newbies? How will Colorado fit in? Will Iowa State rebound? What about mainstays like Kansas State, Oklahoma State, or TCU? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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  • @LateKickwithJoshPate
    @LateKickwithJoshPateАй бұрын

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

  • @tylercrosby2529
    @tylercrosby2529Ай бұрын

    Kstate makes the playoff and wins it’s first round game this year, but unfortunately Josh is probably right about it being very unlikely a B12 team wins it all in the near future. However, if a B12 team is overlooked and stays healthy, it is possible. TCU ran into UGA, but if OSU had beat UGA, TCU’s odds would have been much better. So, I do believe it’s possible, but it is possible.

  • @grantstanfield6636

    @grantstanfield6636

    6 күн бұрын

    Not enough talent at K State

  • @jeffisom6440
    @jeffisom6440Ай бұрын

    Go Utes!

  • @40to38
    @40to38Ай бұрын

    UCF winning the first real playoffs would be some nice karma. The first undefeated team of the CFP era and the only team to be left out and finish undefeated. And they've already beaten UGA in a post season play :) Even if they don't, super excited for the first season with a playoff!

  • @keruetz
    @keruetzАй бұрын

    It would be great if one of the Big12 teams won the national championship. I’m a Texas fan saying this. I still love the Big 12.

  • @dacokc

    @dacokc

    Ай бұрын

    Would love to see Texas crush the SEC. Coming from a KState fan.

  • @dougwatchesiowastate
    @dougwatchesiowastateАй бұрын

    It wide open with the Big 12 but I hope that that one the hateful 8 wins it all

  • @davidfloyd9134
    @davidfloyd9134Ай бұрын

    I would love to see the Big12 win the national championship

  • @sarahmccoy1941

    @sarahmccoy1941

    29 күн бұрын

    Try PlayStation football.

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314Ай бұрын

    The Big 12 teams will be underdogs against the real heavyweights of college football. I personally would love it if Utah, say, won a quarterfinal at home against Ohio State and then took down LSU in the semis and Georgia in the national title game. It would be like when the wild-card New York Giants in 2007 took out (in order) Dallas, Green Bay and then an 18-0 New England to win the Super Bowl.

  • @detectif1061

    @detectif1061

    Ай бұрын

    nah.

  • @stoney2271

    @stoney2271

    Ай бұрын

    @@detectif1061nah to your nah

  • @sontewong9935
    @sontewong9935Ай бұрын

    Shout-out Tacoma, WA (253) 🙌🏾

  • @Ace0000087
    @Ace0000087Ай бұрын

    Iowa State winning it all would be story book or blockbuster movie ending level of awesomeness.

  • @kalebstuckey570

    @kalebstuckey570

    18 күн бұрын

    I would rather another SEC team win than Iowa State

  • @thewvuguy
    @thewvuguyАй бұрын

    Trust the climb, Josh

  • @tylerljohnson
    @tylerljohnsonАй бұрын

    I'm here for the Cyclone Stan Channel Josh...So throw up a Jack Trice stadium background and lets Go! 🚨🌪🏈🚨

  • @Travis89-ob5tt
    @Travis89-ob5ttАй бұрын

    Utah or one of the Kansas teams hosting a playoff game in January will be fun to watch. Bama or Texas could be freezing they're balls off. 😆

  • @WangHungLo

    @WangHungLo

    Ай бұрын

    It actually snows in Alabama nowadays. It also snows in Texas as well

  • @Swooperz11

    @Swooperz11

    Ай бұрын

    That's true, but it's nothing like freezing temps at high altitude. The frigid air already takes your breath away, add in the low oxygen and you are gassed after a few plays.

  • @WangHungLo

    @WangHungLo

    Ай бұрын

    @@Swooperz11 the S.E.C will be ready for all challenges. I promise

  • @darrenheaton5989

    @darrenheaton5989

    Ай бұрын

    @@WangHungLo not like Kansas

  • @WangHungLo

    @WangHungLo

    Ай бұрын

    @@darrenheaton5989 since when has Kansas ever been relevant in college football? No one is scared of Kansas football. I promise. Kansas can't even win their Conference. Much less a National Championship

  • @matthewhaselhorst1778
    @matthewhaselhorst1778Ай бұрын

    Biased as always here: A Kansas team winning it all would be monumental. Kansas - the epitome of no one cares about us and we’re literally called the “fly over state”, people say get the hell out of Dodge which came from here, I’ve had flight attendants actually ask if we still have covered wagons out here 😂. It would be the best story!

  • @aarongracheck943
    @aarongracheck94310 күн бұрын

    With conference realignment, the SEC and Big Ten are even more powerful than they already were. Sure, the Big 12 has a shot, and even the ACC with Clemson and FSU. But not to the level that the SEC and Big 10 does

  • @zandreaeslick1072
    @zandreaeslick1072Ай бұрын

    Gotta love all these talking heads when it comes to the real possibility with the latest news on the NCAA and the judgement and when some of us suggest the future of college sports is on a frail spiral of death.. They think of their check book and laugh and giggle... the future is bright.. because they know if this eventally goes sideways.. They will need to find a real job.

  • @1185AspAve
    @1185AspAveАй бұрын

    Even the bots arent holding their breaths on B12 winning another Natty. Im sure it'll happen eventually but no time soon.

  • @highbrixgardens9491

    @highbrixgardens9491

    Ай бұрын

    Bet it happens this year.

  • @1185AspAve

    @1185AspAve

    Ай бұрын

    @@highbrixgardens9491 Oklahoma Softball has a good chance this year but were talking FB here . Its going to be awfully hard for mostly all programs to win 3 or 4 games. Hopefully your squad is deep enough and has been battle tested in league play.

  • @lorenzohaynes3886

    @lorenzohaynes3886

    Ай бұрын

    It'll happen.

  • @matthewcastleton2263

    @matthewcastleton2263

    29 күн бұрын

    @@highbrixgardens9491Utah could with the amount of talent they’re bringing back.

  • @wally8787
    @wally8787Ай бұрын

    I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the Big 12 to win a "natty." In 2013, Bud Elliott, a national recruiting analyst at 247Sports, created the blue-chip ratio. A college football team’s blue-chip ratio is the percent of four- and five-star prospects (scholarship players only) on its current roster. Elliott surmised that a team had to have a blue-chip ratio over fifty percent to have enough talent to win a national championship. No team without a Blue-Chip roster has won a national championship in the last twenty-five years. The sixteen teams that made the cut in 2023 were Alabama (90%), Ohio State (85%), Georgia (77%), Texas A&M (73%), Clemson (72%), LSU (71%), Texas (70%%), Oklahoma (70%), Oregon (67%), Notre Dame (65%), Florida (64%), Miami (61%), Penn State (55%), Michigan (54%), USC (52%) and Auburn (51%). The breakdown by conference is: SEC=8, B1G=5, ACC=2, Independent=1. The Big 12 has lost their only two Blue-Chip teams--Texas and Oklahoma. Could a Big 12 team win their Round 1 game in a 12-game playoff? Absolutely! However, do you remember what happened in 2023? TCU, with seventeen 4-star and 5-star players gave it their all against a team that had three times that number of superstars and eked out an upset. "Go Frogs!" The following week, having left it all on the field, they were absolutely crushed by a second elite team. The deck is stacked against the Big 12. When the dust settles on the ACC's GoR kerfuffle, the only team outside the SEC and the B1G that will have a reasonable shot at a national championship will be The Fighting Irish.

  • @StephenCates15

    @StephenCates15

    Ай бұрын

    TCU did beat Michigan let’s not forget that. Georgia would have boat raced just about anyone. Maybe not as badly as TCU, but they were going home with a ship regardless. Point is, TCU was not as woefully outclassed as people think. Not to mention the fact that FSU got equally as trounced (yes I know players sat out but they still had talent).

  • @lorenzohaynes3886

    @lorenzohaynes3886

    Ай бұрын

    That math is kinda bogus because Saban tipped the scales on everything. Kirby isn't Saban. Even though he's the best in the game now. When you look at the list you have. 80% of those schools aren't winning chips. On top of that. It's a new world. Salary will change the model.

  • @GoHawgs1987

    @GoHawgs1987

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@lorenzohaynes3886 Well, of the ones he listed, 11 of the programs have won at least one national title in the last 25 years. I think the only team that has broken the mold "recently" was 2010 Auburn, who was under 50 percent but had Cam Newton.

  • @GoHawgs1987

    @GoHawgs1987

    Ай бұрын

    And salaries will only tip the scales to favor the big boys, most of whom are already cleaning up in recruiting and are on that list.

  • @EngineeringUSA
    @EngineeringUSA9 күн бұрын

    Man, Iowa States gotta worry about winning 10 games in a season first.. Something they have never done.

  • @nickaguirre8804
    @nickaguirre8804Ай бұрын

    Last b12 team was Texas

  • @ryann3391
    @ryann3391Ай бұрын

    Biggest thing about winning a championship is having the opportunity. I maintain rg3 could have won a championship with the opportunity. Undefeated ucf too. Probably several others. Now that these teams have more opportunities they'll inevitably win more big games

  • @cfb_plus7399
    @cfb_plus7399Ай бұрын

    Josh Pate saying the hard truth, the XII is America's conference

  • @ayetee5316
    @ayetee5316Ай бұрын

    Wait till CU does it this year, yall heads gonna 🤯

  • @dragonsurge1

    @dragonsurge1

    Ай бұрын

    Wait till CU doesn’t even make a bowl game again, y’all heads gonna 🤯

  • @jimmyleebaker

    @jimmyleebaker

    Ай бұрын

    I'll be waiting for yall to win 6 games, make a bowl, Deion goes to the Cowboys, drafts sheduer top 5, and screams into any available camera that "I TOLD YALL HE WAS TOP 5!!"

  • @mrvroom188

    @mrvroom188

    Ай бұрын

    Nah not that overrated 4-8 team😭

  • @emtae65
    @emtae65Ай бұрын

    "EVERYTHING RUNS THROUGH LUBBOCK!" 😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂

  • @csquadfamily9902
    @csquadfamily9902Ай бұрын

    I don’t think he’d be celebrating if Colorado won

  • @kevinpowers2959

    @kevinpowers2959

    Ай бұрын

    If Colorado wins a natty, we'll celebrate them. The reason everyone hates them is that they've been strutting around like they won a natty (while also playing the victim) despite going 4-8 last year.

  • @angelocastro4303

    @angelocastro4303

    Ай бұрын

    @@kevinpowers2959I was happy with 4-8 but I’m not seeing a natty yet. We need true player development

  • @jimmyleebaker

    @jimmyleebaker

    Ай бұрын

    Y'all will win 6-8 Games, win a bowl, Deion will leave for the Cowboys, draft Sheduer top 5, so he can scream "I TOLD YALL HE WAS TOP 5!!!!" into any camera available 😂 😂 😂 😂 good luck

  • @csquadfamily9902

    @csquadfamily9902

    Ай бұрын

    @@jimmyleebaker as a cowboys fan I’d take shedeur or Travis don’t matter and definitely coach prime if it was possible

  • @jimmyleebaker

    @jimmyleebaker

    Ай бұрын

    @@csquadfamily9902 point couldn't have gone anymore right over your head.. bless your heart 😂 😂 😂 hope you win at least some thing in your lifetime 🙏 😂 clearly didn't win in Chromosomes.... 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @wetblanket1977
    @wetblanket1977Ай бұрын

    Josh went out on a limb last season and picked okst to make the CCG , but four weeks in he tweaked it to ou. Hahaha I can't take him seriously because okst returns the entire production from last year and he hasn't once said they will make it this season I guess because of the vegas odds, hello okst owns the vegas odds throughout the last 10 years. Even EA Sports wasn't this thick headed and late to the party

  • @grantstanfield6636
    @grantstanfield66366 күн бұрын

    Utah has a chance! They beat OK STATE away game, win the Big 12 Title Game, then go on to beat Alabama and Georgia. Wahoo🎉 I can hope can’t I?

  • @LBake59
    @LBake59Ай бұрын

    Big 12 will be interesting especially since most think CU is a joke! Don’t believe the negative reporting, Coach Prime stays, CU in Big 12 playoffs, Big 12 will be represented!

  • @kalebstuckey570

    @kalebstuckey570

    18 күн бұрын

    dreaming

  • @mikehappy2620
    @mikehappy2620Ай бұрын

    LMFAO.

  • @adamgt4037
    @adamgt403713 күн бұрын

    Noah Fifita and T-mac will Win it all with Arizona

  • @reconsoldier135
    @reconsoldier135Ай бұрын

    I don't like seeing the constant player transfer situation but as long as coaches can up and leave on a whim then then players should be able to as well, especially if the coach that left was their position coach who recruited them personally

  • @jansonroberts2616

    @jansonroberts2616

    Ай бұрын

    It’ll be interesting to see what changes are coming now that the players are going to be paid. Contracts and buyouts like those coaches have?

  • @gagebyers1057
    @gagebyers1057Ай бұрын

    lol Iowa state should worry about winning 10 games first

  • @dirtyburg7722
    @dirtyburg7722Ай бұрын

    Can we just call it the BIG-16 already?

  • @daviddemastus9267
    @daviddemastus9267Ай бұрын

    I don't see it happening.

  • @user-hu7jo8th9o
    @user-hu7jo8th9oАй бұрын

    Not even close

  • @jackburton4892
    @jackburton4892Ай бұрын

    I'm sure Brett Yormark is getting applause for that Big XII TV deal. But in 7 years there will be no money for you. I'm afraid it's over for the XII.

  • @devilfrawg4953

    @devilfrawg4953

    Ай бұрын

    Then the networks and poachers should prepare for antitrust and racketeering lawsuits.

  • @Berley_1234
    @Berley_1234Ай бұрын

    please

  • @sarahmccoy1941
    @sarahmccoy194129 күн бұрын

    NeverNeverLand is the only place where a Big XII (or make that 16) team wins a national football title.

  • @motivateddedicated98
    @motivateddedicated98Ай бұрын

    Maybe in 2040

  • @dfausti66
    @dfausti66Ай бұрын

    I am surprised that the NFL and NBA are not doing anything about the severe lack of dedication in the school they have chosen first. The NFL and NBA would look heavily into the dedication an athlete shows in college for building a championship team. Unfortunately, athletes' dedication is up for auction to the highest bidder. How sad! Dedication to each athlete is the basis of winning championships. consistently.

  • @pfpublius
    @pfpubliusАй бұрын

    The thought of the Big 12 winning a natty make me feel kind of rattlesnakey.

  • @user-fy4pv5wf3l
    @user-fy4pv5wf3lАй бұрын

    Georgia has culture down? Let’s ask their state highway patrol officers…

  • @scottyclayton2501
    @scottyclayton2501Ай бұрын

    What if a G5 team wins 2 playoff games

  • @dragonsurge1

    @dragonsurge1

    Ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @robert5755

    @robert5755

    6 күн бұрын

    all about depth with that many games. g5 and big 12 just dont have it.

  • @corndogwallace7721
    @corndogwallace7721Ай бұрын

    Can we please stop changing the titles of videos and posting as new content? This is part of another video Josh. We love your content either way but come on. Me thinking a new video came out 😭

  • @darealmvp2437
    @darealmvp2437Ай бұрын

    Not happening

  • @user-hu7jo8th9o
    @user-hu7jo8th9oАй бұрын

    The big 12 is not America's conference name a blue blood left in 2024 how many national championships after Oklahoma and Texas leave in football

  • @kalebstuckey570

    @kalebstuckey570

    18 күн бұрын

    Try punctuation.

  • @user-hu7jo8th9o

    @user-hu7jo8th9o

    13 күн бұрын

    @@kalebstuckey570 hmm who cares about punctuation on these is this English class because I don't give 2 shits

  • @kmcc01
    @kmcc01Ай бұрын

    The Big 12 stinks. The A.C.C. outclassed them in basketball, they didn't get one team in the upcoming College World Series.And a few people see a few teams in the Big 12 leaving for greener pastures. Not everybody likes the Dallas Cowboys.

  • @Bakarost
    @BakarostАй бұрын

    big 12? meh

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