Jordynne Grace's Future with WWE | Busted Open
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Dave LaGreca, Bully Ray & Tommy Dreamer discuss the concept of the 'Forbidden Door' in professional wrestling after TNA Knockouts World Champion Jordynne Grace emerged victorious in her first WWE NXT match ahead of her title fight against Roxanne Perez at Battleground.
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Easy fix: Sell the NXTNA merch on both companies websites.
It's actually Tatum Paxley not Blair Davenport Tommy Dreamer mixed them up
@SonOfMuta
21 күн бұрын
Dreamer is donkey-brained
@skimgettinkindamoney
20 күн бұрын
I can see Tatum, I saw that teaser
@joylane2960
16 күн бұрын
Tatum is very sexually charged, full of weird energy (and loves what she does), while Blair seems frumpy, bland, and a little full of herself...> I know which one i'd rather be with on a personal level...>
NXT did 768k on par with AEW Dynamite 😂😂😂
Jordyn's Finnisher looked FLAWLESS & POWERFULL on the last NXT I NEVER WATCH NXT NOW I DO.
@AnswerisB
21 күн бұрын
So why weren't you watching TNA before? Jordynn's been there for how long?
@Supervillain725
20 күн бұрын
Welcome to the NXT club. NXT puts on a good show with quality matches, and their live events are 🔥 .
@skimgettinkindamoney
20 күн бұрын
NXT is beat bro, you'll like it fasho
Regular viewer of the red and blue brands, mostly watch TNA matches here on YT, but I stumbled onto NXT last week and watched on a whim, saw Jordynne come out to challenge Roxanne and watched the rest of the show bc I was so excited. Watched last night just to see Jordynne wrestle and she did not disappoint. We're watching Battleground to see what happens and wouldn't be doing so otherwise. Big Mama Pump is money and I really hope the attention improves both companies and all the talent.
@robbymarton74
21 күн бұрын
Good for you ! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@jaybee4288
20 күн бұрын
NXT peaks and dips a lot due to talent getting called up but with Jordynne and Ethan this show should be really good as it’s pretty unpredictable. It’s the show most like TNA of all of them.
Grace is currently booked for 6 appearances on nxt
The best inter-promotional title change imo was a WWE Taz winning the ECW title.
@cwell510
21 күн бұрын
Regaining the ECW title...
@WarGhoulKharas
21 күн бұрын
That was awful and meant nothing. Awesome got up and left after a minute long match.
@sandyunderpants4376
21 күн бұрын
That was awesome for like a week, because it was like unbelievable. But then Vince put Tazz in the midget division, and had him jobbing to a washed up Big Bossman 6 months into his WWE career.
@mattieharris3747
20 күн бұрын
I dunno if I'm wrong but wasn't tazz booked before he signed or after he signed with wwe at the time I know Paul heyman mentioned it an tazz dropped the ecw title after winning it.
@nickysturzu1290
20 күн бұрын
WWE Taz beating WCW Mike Awesome for the ECW Title...hope I remember correctly
The "weird girl touching the title" that Tommy Dreamer was referring to is actually Tatum Paxley, not Blair Davenport. Blair moved up to the main roster when she was recently drafted to Smackdown.
@SonOfMuta
21 күн бұрын
Dreamer is donkey-brained
@Fortjul
21 күн бұрын
Lol yup
@CulEdz
21 күн бұрын
Easy to mix them up lol
I would like to see Nic Nemeth show up on WWE tv as Nic Nemeth, and the WWE announcers completely ignore that he is/was Dolph Ziggler, lol
@jamesgroover4643
21 күн бұрын
Love Nic. The Dolph Ziggler moniker was an albatross around his neck. You can't have two gimmicked up names. Dolph Andrews would have been better.
@CulEdz
21 күн бұрын
If they can have Shawn Spears and EC3, Dolph Ziggler can be Nic Nemeth. Can even go on a tirade and say that was his slave name lol
@johndrake2729
20 күн бұрын
That would be challenging to do, considering he was with WWE for a long time under the Ziggler moniker.
@johnstrika9170
14 күн бұрын
It'll never happen. They let Spears do it because he's a literal nobody. Ziggler is a multi time world champion
@KZ-mo2rz
12 күн бұрын
Plus he is with his brother Ryan Nemeth,imo Nic/Dolph did not want to return so early in WWE until he's prove&achive so much like Cody,Drew he will return and possibly his story in WM WWE title match like Cody
This make more interested in TNA now so this was some good business for both NXT and TNA
@CulEdz
21 күн бұрын
Real Forbidden Door. From AJ Styles joking around with Edge and Christian about not being able to say TNA, to the TNA Knockouts champion wrestling on essentially WWE TV. Forbidden door opened.
@stephensimpson1963
20 күн бұрын
Same here! Subscribed to TNA + and will be watching their next two PLE’s
*She just looks like a star and has that aura, in the bubble of NXT and TNA she’s larger than life. If she makes the jump then I bet you she wins the NXT women’s title in 6 months, fight me*
@dallas317
21 күн бұрын
WWE should give her the rub.
@Foo-oo-oo-oolsGold89
21 күн бұрын
She absolutely stands right out and would in any promotion. That's been proven already because of the reactions shes had in WWE. Just look at Jade Cargill. Jordynne has the look and is way better in the ring than Jade.
@j.t.a5395
21 күн бұрын
@@Foo-oo-oo-oolsGold89 *yeah cause she’s been wrestling for years. You don’t expect her to be as good as jordynne when she has only wrestled for 3 years*
@SES6924
21 күн бұрын
She won't be NXT women's Champion. Because when's the signed full-time she's going to the main roster. What we are seeing now is the extent of NXT she's gonna do.
@Time2Bl33d
21 күн бұрын
She's winning the NXT Women's Title this weekend
Tatum Paxley, not Blair Davenport.
I agree with Bubba Ray's booking.
@qlee2385
21 күн бұрын
Me too
@joylane2960
16 күн бұрын
That goes without saying. Bubba has become a wrestling genius...>
Here I was thinking Jordynn Grace winning was obvious to get more crossover into TNA Against All Odds and possibly through Heatwave.
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
It's still entirely possible.
They should allow several TNA talent to attend the Battleground PLE as "Moral Support" for Jordynne Grace. They could be overcome with emotion and rush the ring to cause the double DQ and still keep it interesting.
@theghostofrethsich2813
21 күн бұрын
Nxt women vs tna women at survivor series?
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
THIS is what I see happening. Gail Kim and several KO talent show up sitting in the front row and don't get involved until some of the NXT roster interject themselves. I'd REALLY love to see Havok and Jax face each other in a classic SS match.
Bully's angle is alright. Jordynne should win the NXT women's title, but she should hold it defending it in TNA with WWE talent challenging her until defeated by Guilia.
@chriskay1449
17 күн бұрын
He is wrong because that basically leaves Roxanne out in the cold. NXT wants Roxanne vs Guilia.
she has always been a superstar ❤❤❤❤❤. jordyne grace 🔥🔥🔥
Agree with Bully Ray!
A crossover champion would be such a huge stride in the right direction, for both companies!
Remember rob van dam vs John cena at one night stand when rob van dam beat cena for the championship
@Eric78DX
18 күн бұрын
RVD had been contracted by WWE for years before ONS
I'm still in shock that this relationship is happening. No one could predict WWE working with TNA. Hopefully both sides benefit from this and hopefully it's long-term. WWE is definitely in the HHH era. Plus wrestlers keeping their names is amazing on its own.
@26.2MilesOutsidePartsUnknown
20 күн бұрын
They worked together before! They did a trade with Ric Flair and Christian for brief appearances.
Something fun TNA and NXT could think of doing is have a trade of belts where Jordynne Grace beats Roxanne Perez for the NXT Championship then at Against All Odds Roxanne beats Jordynne for the Knockouts World Championship. Later on both companies get there respected belts back by Giulia beating Grace and Gisele Shaw beating Roxanne.
@AnswerisB
21 күн бұрын
>Gisele Shaw Hell naw
@jaybee4288
20 күн бұрын
All sounds good up until Gisele. WWE doesn’t do intergender matches.
There are 4 things for me that NXTNA needs to do. One, they need to put this in the main event. Two, Jordynne Grace wins by a distraction from TNA. Three, Ava gets in the ring, but Jordynne finishes her with the Juggernaut bomb, then Shawn comes out and chases Jordynne out. 4th and last, the person distract, and WWE signs Scott D’Amore.
@marvinleong5902
21 күн бұрын
2 would buried TNA even more because if someone like Grace, who size and taller than Roxanne, need distraction to beat Roxanne.
If tna ever drops the ball on her she knows shes got a wwe spot after all of this
I'd go with a TNA heel costing Roxanne her the title. Lead to a War Games TNA vs NXT and a rematch, Roxanne vs Jordynne Grace in a Cage Match
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
Maybe not Was Games. I see it being a Survivor Series match. That could lead to a War Games match.
Both TNA and WWE sell the T shirt at their events and the companys keep the profits from their respective shows
I’ll tell you what if Cargill doesn’t improve by years end the push they had for her will fade and be given to Grace cuz she is ready to go now and has been impressive
@whumpdonkey2478
21 күн бұрын
Cargill is improving at an alarming rate , Cargill is gonna b a MEGA MEGA STAR
@I_beat_cucks
6 күн бұрын
Cargill is already LEVELS above jordynne is terms of presence
Also moose has told grace that he is dying to make an appearance on nxt
Just shows Tommy’s knowledge of the sport
@moses0686
21 күн бұрын
He books TNA or at least is involved in creative. Why should he know who she is? She's a mid carder on the developmental show
@Bryan-wu1ss
21 күн бұрын
@@moses0686 I have both been in tna since 18 that’s how they know each other
Bubba and Mark always make the most sense. When they talk it's hard not to listen
I'd put Jordan over Perez; A) the former is more established/ legitimate and B) it makes for a good sales pitch for future recruitment. With Perez, you have a starlet in the making, but she is so young, that an early loss does no lasting damage and I can't imagine that her ego is so big as this would bother her (it's a huge matchup). Furthermore, I'd mix things up by having Jordan's Open Challenge for the Knockouts Title be answered by another WWE superstar altogether, win or loss (main roster even). Maybe do a wash finish that circles back to TNA talent for that one. WWE can get their win back on one of the other crossover matchups that have been flooding the rumor mill. First impressions matter most anyway.
Nice interview
When Dave is standing up pacing a bit it reminds me of McAfee lol also Bully was at Reiners (a bar in RI near the comic con he was at) recognized him was super nice and let me and friend take a picture with him. Super nice and friendly!
as one of the very very few who’s kept up with tha through the ups and downs it’s just cool to see a true tna home grown star show up repping tna
Big tna fan was at tour in Scotland last year and this was first time I've watched nxt. So it will work both ways with fans of each checking out the other . Would love a joint ppv
I need rhea vs jordynn grace wrestlemania 42
I think NXT should hire Scott D'More and make him the GM of NXT before it goes to air on the CW network & replace Ava for the post and also plays a significant role in booking NXT vs TNA Worlds Collide PLE in the future
Holy sh*t, Bully’s fantasy booking was marvelous. I would just add that eventually this feud leads to a war games matchup.
@theghostofrethsich2813
21 күн бұрын
To survivor series the companies could draw it out for the blow off in November
@baconoftheark
19 күн бұрын
Why hasn't anyone hired Bully for creative? TK and NXT could benefit from his time in the business. Devon is already at WWE, so they could have a brief reunion of the Dudleyz. When The Hardyz return to WWE - they could use some legends promo for 2-3 minutes.
I found it interesting when McAfee dropped that "call his name and he'll appear" line on Raw Monday night
Can you possibly do an episode dedicated to wrestling schools? That would be interesting! I’ve thought about getting into wrestling. I am going to work on getting into shape once I get to Texas!
Watching Thicc Mama Pump powerhouse through the ALL IN Zero Hour 2018 was the first time I was IMPRESSED and drawn to her. She has IT whether she has a power lifter frame or the 0% body fat bodybuilder frame.
I feel like this is a nod to the old territory days. Where a champion would travel and face the top guys in other territories to give them a rub. I think it's good exposure, and definitely good for business as a whole.
There is no benefit for WWE to have Jordynne beat Roxanne if I’m being honest unless there is some sort of agreement that Jordynne will be a WWE wrestler after her contracts up. Especially when Giulia is set to be coming into NXT and challenging Roxanne at the next NXT PLE.
@Gunwitch666
21 күн бұрын
Cannot wait for Giulia!! I'm already expecting video packages soon too! I'm also hoping Thekla comes over at some point too (when her contact is up with Stardom)!
@whumpdonkey2478
21 күн бұрын
@Gunwitch666 hell yea , I luv Thekla , would luv to see her in WWE
If a TNA World Champion cannot beat a Third Tier champion of WWE will not make Grace or TNA stronger it will just accentuate the WWE being a dominant brand.....Bully and Tommy pander for those sweet WWE bucks and do not want to mess up potential guest spots....
IDK how I missed the Aj/ LA fight at WM that Dave mentions @ 28:10, just watched the un-censored video of that. Was THAT a work? IF so, damn they were REALLY convincing.
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
There might have been some receipts exchanged during that. The better they sell the fight at a non TV event, the more you draw the fans in.
I think she’d benefit greatly both in-ring and on promos from some legit time in NXT, working out daily at the PC & all that. TNA runs so infrequently that it would rarely if ever interfere with NXT TV or PLE’s, so she could still work all of their stuff as well.
That wasn’t Blair Davenport that was Tatum Paxley
Dave, your headset mic makes a lot of popping P sounds and extra noise, can you use a broadcast mike?
Tommy Dreamer is very underrated as a booker
8:58 I have two suggestions, Tatum Paxley or for a surprise, Cora Jade Tatum has a strong obsession with Championship gold so I can see that, meanwhile I can Cora Jade because she has history with Roxanne. (I already know that Cora is injured but from for her recent videos, it showed that she's recovering very fast. So I hope to see her again on NXT fr)
Great points brought up in this stream. I’d love to see Jordynn Grace be the one to ignite that 2 belt/cross bridge champion gap! Maybe we get some sort of tie but shouldn’t we shoot for the stars if you want Grace to eventually become a WWE superstar? Or make NXT feel even bigger? In every fibre of Grace’s being she is a trend setter/leader; so let her do it at Battleground and being everything up. Let more cross company matches happen! I bet WWE & UFC saw what AEW was up to and decided to get on the band wagon of constant cross pollination.
They did good business at Battleground. Everyone won last night.
Audio is back appears to be a KZread issue
I argue that it wouldn't be TNAs fault that wwe decided to book such a small venue as far as t-shirt sales.
Would love to see and men’s and Women’s Undisputed Crossover Champion where the belt isn’t tied to one specific brand and can be defended on both brands on all levels of WWE as well as on TNA. Would be great for above average wrestlers but not so much main events. Shinsuke’s , Ricochets, Draganovs , Lashley, , KO, Finn Balors
This Anthem Sports and Entertainment (TNA Wrestling) and Endeavor TKO (World Wrestling Entertainment) is the most polite and professional talent raid or talent grooming. So far, this TNA Wrestling and WWE "partnership" is Endeavor TKO polishing up Jordynne Grace for a WWE contract, or better yet Anthem Sports and Entertainment polishing up TNA Wrestling to sell to Endeavor TKO lol. The Pro Wrestling alternative in TNA Wrestling to the evil empire of the Sports Entertainment WWE lived long enough to become apart of the "evil empire lol.
Bully needs to join the WWE creative team
@qlee2385
21 күн бұрын
I agree
@STEPHENisSTEPHEN
21 күн бұрын
Is Devon still a producer?
@RockinYankee23
21 күн бұрын
I thought he was and chose to leave???
@AcornSmokes420
21 күн бұрын
@@STEPHENisSTEPHENDevon is actually returning to tna to wrestle his last run ❤
@uhasja
21 күн бұрын
@qlee2385 I think he likes the fact he is not affiliated to any promotion and that he can basically show up any where he wants. I'm sure hhh would be okay with him being in creative and still doing what he wants.
Like the old territories sharing draws.
Blubba's face makes me corpse every time lmao
honetly Jordynee is a phenomenal talent shes a total beast in and out of the ring. she just looks and performs like a wrestler is supposed to. her and jade Carghill are my two current favorites.
Bully is a damn genius
I would have Jordynne win the title and have a legit little run with it. TNA would benefit huge from that because that will definitely get them new viewers and have Giulia be the one to beat her for the title and bring it back to NXT. That would be a great way to introduce Giulia to the NXT roster. Everyone wins big.
Just wait till she’s on the main roster WWE, she’s amazing
12:23 the answer bully is bringing her in to lose does literally nothing other then create spectacul, having her come in and win and becoming an obsticle for whomever you're trying to build up as the next name, you bulldoze a bunch of undercard talent, say 2-3 ppvs, maybe some weekly matches and then you set up who you want to run with that tittle for the next 6+ months and have them win.
Page vs. trick is for the title also
Well. To Bully Ray s layout of the matchup This could Segway to Jordine s move to WWE. Or. There could be some bad actors who stop the fight and set up a round 2 match up
Nice thumbnail lol cheer up bully
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
He has RBF. LOL
Dreamer said, “A lot of those Nick Bockwinkel Ric Flair matches, 1 happened I think they only worked once” HUH???
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
Give Tommy a break. He's had a few concussions. 😊
I don't consider Moxley being the IWGP champion a surprise when AEW stole all the top talent and NJPW needs someone big with the title and to be honest NJPW would put any WWE star at the top but regardless what is happening with NXT and TNA could be something special and I wanna see Grace win and this setting up Roxanne going to TNA to get the title back and possibly bringing in a few others from each side to build to something bigger. Maybe Josh Alexander show's up or someone who helps Grace win and this could have Trick Williams stand up for NXT and we get another huge crossover match. At the end of the day WWE wants Grace at some point so I expect her to walk out Sunday with her TNA title and now the New NXT women's champion.
Tatum paxley is her name . And I'm a big fan but is she the one to represent nxt in its first tna endeavor?
@sweetnsassycreations5582
21 күн бұрын
I think it will be Arianna Grace. Her dad is Santino.
No sound
8:04 50/50 split of all sales. Go thru a 3rd party maybe? Like Pro Wrestling Tees. That way the numbers would be counted by an outside entity
Nowadays they don't argue over cross branding. They just split the overall profits.
If grace wins the next title she's automatic final 3 next year's rumble
I think this crossover could allow NXT talent to work with TNA for more exposure and NXT gives TNA talent a bigger platform on national TV.
BULLY THIS IS MY EXACT IDEA LUV IT LUV TNA LUV WWE FN LUV WRASTLING!!!!!!!
if you are giving me control of booking for this alone? Grace beats Perez for the NXT belt. Perez takes the open challenge at bound for Glory and perez wins. the rematch for both belts happens at Money in the bank opening match, a ladder match similar to the tag team ladder match at Wrstle mania. One belt on one hook, one belt on the other hook. Grace grabs the the tna belt, perez the nxt belt. Can feature run ins from tna and nxt women to help build the next feuds for both women .
I feel ya bully, it's not a "PLE"....it's a "paperview" 😊
Ethan Page vs Joe Hendry I would love the 4th wall breaks if it ever happened for NXT vs TNA
It was actually Tatum p. that touched title
Tna comes on roku tv
@lindoquetzal1
21 күн бұрын
And fire stick the bad it's not on Samsung and LG TV
No sound just a heads up
Shirt problem is simple. Sell two shirt variants, share the trademark . Red and Gold for TNA through their website they get 90% of the profits and WWE takes 10%, and a Black and Gold shirt for NXT where WWE gets 90% and 10% goes to TNA.
@AndrewOlsonTV
21 күн бұрын
TNA would be heavily incentivized to make revenue from the monster of wweshop website and not solely their own
This should be a title for title match between Roxanne and Jordan grace
@kevinmoore2929
20 күн бұрын
This is closer to old school booking. Three match program.
I Think Roxanne Main Rival Has Been Cora Jade @Busted Open Podcast
The numbers are out. Time to call TNA and rethink this whole thing
I think it's interesting that WWE's trying to mimic the feel of the AEW/NJPW/CMLL Forbidden Door ppv. And I really hope that WWE allows TNA wrestlers to appear on Raw and SmackDown, if not just NXT. But that would gain WWE nothing, and just use their own TV time to promote smaller companies. That is not what they do historically. WWE is a successful monopolist, and I think this is just another strategy to co-opt, and absorb smaller promotions.
You could bridge the gap by making Grace into an all time classic WWE star and then just giving her to WWE in exchange for a program that doesn’t totally bury TNA
@AndrewOlsonTV
21 күн бұрын
Don’t really ever make it about what brand is better rather that Grace is like a Lesnar type figure
She also beat Noami 2. So I believe she could fix in WWE
I just wanna hear Moose's music on WWE TV, either NXT or main roster.
Grace wins at Battleground and Perez wins at SV in July.
juggernaut reminds me of a young bob backland/john cena
Now an AEW/WWE crossover!!
They need to do TNA vs WWE for wargames.
WWE needs to give TNA the rub, after all these years.
@Prime1116
21 күн бұрын
I'm u
Cicero stadium you should expect Punk hanging out
I hope we get Joe Hendry on NXT
With Natalya’s contract expiring I’d have her cost Roxanne and then have Natalya win the TNA Knockout title since Grace has an open contract right? She could then sign a yr contract there.
Bully join the creative team
She looks like she fits right in with the rest of them.