Jordan Spieth makes double bogey after interesting caddie conversation
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At the 2022 BMW Championship, Jordan Spieth and his caddie, Michael Greller, find themselves in a tough situation in a bunker on the par-4 5th hole. After an in-depth conversation about what shot to play, Spieth decides to go for the green and mis-hits it into the water. He would go on to make double bogey on the hole.
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The PGA TOUR heads to Delaware for the first time, as the BMW Championship tees off at Wilmington Country Club. 70 of golf’s biggest stars will continue their quest for the FedExCup including world No. 1 Scottie Scheffler, defending champion Patrick Cantlay, The Open and THE PLAYERS winner Cameron Smith and Sam Burns and Xander Schauffele, who each have three wins this season. Scheffler, who entered the Playoffs at No. 1 in the FedExCup, is coming off a missed cut at the FedEx St. Jude Championship - just his fourth of the season. Other notables looking to bounce back after a missed cut in Memphis are past FedExCup winners Rory McIlroy, who won in 2016 and 2019, and Jordan Spieth, who won in 2015. The automatic qualifiers for the Presidents Cup teams will be determined after the tournament, with six Americans and eight international players securing spots on their respective teams. Only the top 30 in the FedExCup Standings will make it to the TOUR Championship at East Lake, and unlike the FedEx St. Jude Championship, there is no cut at the BMW Championship.
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He took ownership of it. That's all that matters at that point. Caddy did his best.
I don’t see an issue with this. At the end of the day, a player needs to be confident in what they’re doing. He was wrong and should’ve just played the conservative shot, but it’s what he wanted.
@marrto
Жыл бұрын
Yep make a mistake with conviction if you're gona make one
@StockBlackWRX
Жыл бұрын
I don't think their is an "issue", but for sure Spieth had a perceived self bias how he was going to play the shot. And that bias clouded his memory to think clearly. You are looking at a high percentage up and down compared to a low percentage shot for nearly the same result.
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
And what he wanted costed hin dearly !
@09nvn
Ай бұрын
Doesn’t need to take 1 minute and 43 second to hit a shot.
Jordan’s just very loyal to his golf friends. He wants to see them win so he does what he can to make sure he won’t win. He’s demonstrated this many many times and his friends always seem real happy.
@gavinrichter654
Ай бұрын
lmao i like this take
When the caddie interrupts your final practice swing you know something is seriously not right! Take note!
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
I don't see why Spieth isn't put on the clock ,I like Spieth but I think his slow play hurts his game .Cantlay lines up his shot and makes a decision and it has been to his benefit winning the tournament !
@wilsonkelsey6205
Жыл бұрын
@@judynichols2904 Cantlay stands over putts for like 30 seconds
@user-lf3hy7wl3t
Ай бұрын
@@wilsonkelsey6205 Um are we watching the same sport? Cantlay is by far the slowest golfer who's still relevant today.
Classic Jordan, talking himself out of contention.
@objectivetruth2286
Жыл бұрын
He really overthinks his shots. Shut up already and hit the ball!
@SoundsInstinctive
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t talk himself out of anything. He took the shot that he wanted to
@philalberts7018
Ай бұрын
the only thing missing was the jeopardy music.......
@achless1
Ай бұрын
yup, he is starting to get real bad
@metalgearfan9802
Күн бұрын
That sort of seems to have been his downfall. Constantly thinking he can play hero ball when he just needs to layup.
When the best outcome is a perfect scenario, listen to your caddie.
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
Valatoris listened to his caddy the week before and he won the tournament .You have to trust your caddy or get a new caddy !
I mean this happens. If he pulls it off it’s amazing but sometimes it doesn’t work out.
Spieth is a shell of his previous glory. They said back then that he would only get better as he aged. Bad prediction.
Yikes! Hate that but Jordan you said it was on you. Keep a positive and fun attitude and good luck.
Gotta love Spieth. This is why we love to watch him. He’s like Arnie and Mickelson in taking risks.
@objectivetruth2286
Жыл бұрын
But unfortunately, he has worse results too often.
At the end of the day, the player calls the shot. The caddie is only there to help make things easier for the player, period. Caddie did a great job doing that.
Caddy gave great advice !
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
Spieth always says he relies on his caddy's advice ,well then he needs to take it !
All I got from that video is that he is such a slow player and that it sets such a terrible example for all the amateurs out there.
Go Jordan... always a great watch.
Michael never liked the play, but I love how he doesn't try to take the artist out of Jordan. There's been so many times when Michael called it off and Jordan still pulled something off, and vice versa. Two of the best at what they do.
Jesus, no wonder rounds take 5 hours
@jayg339
Ай бұрын
Yeah Jordan is basically the golfer you hate. Takes forever thinking about the shot in every which way and then hits it in the water/trees/bunker.
As a club caddie this is a daily conversation. Only there's way less deliberation on their end. It's like the hero shot is the default mindset of a 20 handicapper.
@KnightJauneArc
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because on the 1/100 chance you make that hero shot, you feel like a god. Worth it.
@nowaythatnamewastakn
5 ай бұрын
Even worse is when you make the conservative play and still end up botching the hole.
That wasn't even close to where he thought it might end up. That's golf tho.
Did he tin cup it 😆 love you Jordan
Man... the caddy knew the right behavior for this one. Woulda been sick though lmaooo
I like how the caddy didn't say a word and just skedaddled...
This is why you have a caddy but ultimately its Jordan playing the shot.
This is what makes Jordan so great to watch, a bit like seve, go for the shot if it comes off brilliant, if not disaster, just love him
@kokoken1
Жыл бұрын
I have to say I love Jordan, too. Sure, there's a downside, but when you're a fan of any team or player, you take the bad with the good. This much for sure: Jordan will need to work on putting tee shots on the fairway in the offseason.
@TheToledoTrumpton
Жыл бұрын
It was a dumb shot for a pro though, because it is the sort of thing we amateurs do all the time. Really tough to pick a bunker shot clean off an upslope like that. You have to get your shoulders aligned with the upslope perfectly, you can see he doesn't do that and takes too much sand. It is also a shot that you don't practice that much. Calling that type of shot is the difference between a 12 handicap and a 5 handicap, he should be well past that as a pro.
Hit the damn ball!!!
I counted at least four attempts to talk him out of it.... Speith is one of the best to watch because of this sorta stuff.
Jordan Spieth should get some course management tips from Nicklaus or Woods, two of the best ever at that. He seems to do this sort of thing all the time.
@objectivetruth2286
Жыл бұрын
I agree. He seems like a good guy and has played great in the past but now he is so frustrating to watch. He talks and talks and hems and haws and then hits a dud. Happens too often. I’d like to watch him more if he just walked up and attempted his miracle shot without all of the blah blah blah.🤨
Speith loves the camera
And Spieth doesn't win anymore because...........
I guess we are not on the clock yet.
I caddied twice on the nationwide tour when I played in college. The amount of over thinking that goes on is mind boggling. I had my player ask me. What’s the yardage to that bunker. I said which bunker (there was not a bunker greenside on that hole). He said the bunker that’s short right. It was a bunker 50 yards short of the green. I wanted to tell him. Buddy if you hit it in that bunker from 150 we’ve got problems. Haha.
30 yards short of the green looks like. Tough break Jordan
a caddy job not easy even if its your friend, intense!
On a recent game with a mate I ended up pin high but right of the green behind a whole pile of felled trees with full overhead cover of trees. I told my mate if I can just get it over the pile I should be close to hitting the green. He recommended I just play backwards onto the fairway, Well I fated it into the pile of felled trees swore, took a drop that eliminated my safe fairway shot so had to go for it, I ended up within 6 foot of the flag and we both just laughed and laughed. What a wonderful game we play
What happened to the 40s rule in golf? Don't know how long before the start of this clip Jordan arrived at the bunker, but it took hime almost 2 full minutes to hit that ball into the pond. Did I hear from LIV defectors saying they were headed to LIV to grow the game? I'll tell you what. Start actually enforcing the 40s rule regardless of whom and regardless of what the situation is.
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
Yes I've seen LPGA players penalized for slow play that was quicker than Spieth .He is getting out of hand !
Jack Nicklaus just talked about how players now use their caddies a lot more. Jack didn’t want his caddies input just give him the club he wanted.
too much thinking! just hit it! 😁
As a caddy this always pisses me off when someone intentionally doesn’t take my advice and goes in a bad spot
@krusher74
Жыл бұрын
it losing his caddy money in the paycheck.
Why don’t they show this in the live broadcast? This is what people want to see!!!
I feel like one of the key lines from the caddie is "seems like a great Wednesday shot". At the end of the day as a pro you're not playing for your lowest possible score. You're playing for the lowest score of the field and sometimes that means a conservative shot
Going for the hero shot is a no-no in this situation, especially for amateurs. I did this one time over the water and I lost an arm. Tried to fetch my ball out of the water and a gator snatched my left arm. Never will I play in florida again and never will I get to play 2 handed golf again.
@anodizervintage9622
Жыл бұрын
Are you Chubbs Peterson?
@BH-sy1qt
Жыл бұрын
@@anodizervintage9622 lol
@MountainMitchYT
Жыл бұрын
bro this has to be a joke otherwise i feel so bad
Meh, I've seen several of these videos where Greller trys to talk him out of shots and 9/10 times Spieth pulls it off. All part of the game.
It sounded like Jordan's logic was he'd either hit it flush or hit it so badly it couldn't reach the water. He left out the more likely possibility between the two extremes of mis-hitting it just enough for it to get wet. Not that pointing that out to him in the moment would've had any influence on his thinking. He was in "yeah but" mode.
Always hope he plays well but being bes a cowboy fan I root alittle less go giants
The phrase “over thinking it” comes to mind
Awesome
the only thing missing was the jeopardy music.......
Reminds me of the time Bones begged Phil not to try to hit 3 Wood out of the rough.
Hindsight is 20/20 obviously… but 155 out of a bunker with a lip into the wild all carry over water 😂 what was he thinking
Play within your abilities and the conditions. Know your game. Listen to a smart caddy.
@JT________________
Жыл бұрын
Dont listen if you disagree.
@JT________________
Жыл бұрын
I mean obviously you should listen but you shouldnt do as they say if you disagree
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
Cantlay had a perfect plan ,he was decisive and played fairly quickly ,not over thinking the shot !
If I had a chance to talk to Jordan before this round, I would've told him to try to avoid doubles, that's one of my secrets, pars and bogeys, if a birdie falls in your lap, so be it.
Was he in the final group, taking all that time? If not, very discourteous.
A good person listens to a person. That’s what a good person/decent and strong person does. Listen to a person. Listen.
@andyclark8991
11 ай бұрын
Sadly he didn’t do that
That's good I don't like him as a player haha 😆 love it
hit the ball already.
Kudos to the caddie for sticking to his guns, but Jordan became one of the world's top golfers and the caddie is a caddie, so I think he's done ok trusting himself..
Seems like normal stuff to me. Wouldn't try taking this much time on your course though.
i think the fact he called the caddie in for his input shows he had some doubt in the shot he needed to hit and therefore should have listen to him.
@mrfashizleboy9486
Жыл бұрын
Caddies give input for everything. Didn’t call him in. He was just there
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
@@mrfashizleboy9486 He had his mind made up ,he wasn't even close in getting on the green.He plays way too slow and makes bad decisions .I always pulled for him but he's just hurting himself !
After winning the Masters and the U.S.Open in 2015 Spieth's ego got in his way. He began referring to himself as 'We.' Granted, he stumbled into an Open win later but his career peeked 9 years ago.
Caddies get 10% of the prize money the golfer wins . An error like Spieths in this video means if he misses the cut because of it. 10% of 0 is 0 .
@vincentjohnson3174
Жыл бұрын
This was 3rd round and he was leading but I get what your saying
@schuncke
Жыл бұрын
@@vincentjohnson3174 difference between 1st place and 3rd is like $500,000 that’s $50,000 the caddie would be out .
The longer you talk, the worse the shot is in the end.
I think he made a good decision
This is why he can’t consistently win
Caddies know best, players never let their ego go
Jc, just hit the ball
Whats with the constant twirling of the club in his hand. Like a nervous twitch.
They are professionals he picked the shot he thought he could pull off. No biggie, move on to the next hole
@cashcartilui6799
Жыл бұрын
He was in first place , it was a biggie
lol, classic
USA PGA.
Sadly, overthinking plagues him.
nothing major , stand on your nuts and hit the shot. the layup shot had the potential of being played poorly too
Sorry but taking to much time cant stand slow play
Jordan seems like a NIGHTMARE to caddy for....
@kavivarma4786
Жыл бұрын
Bruh michael loves his job
@connerbrady1043
Жыл бұрын
Hes one of the few guys that has had the same caddie his whole career...
@Nealson454
Жыл бұрын
At least Jordan made it clear the fault would be with himself and not his caddie before he played. Others would blame the caddie regardless.
@TheErockaustin
Жыл бұрын
I would argue the opposite. There are some players where the caddie would be terrified to intervene or caution against a certain shot. A good relationship is one where they communicate, like in this instance. It is still ultimately up to the player to make the decision.
Tin Cup…
Play faster , doesn’t matter , shouldn’t even have caddies
Get on with it, he takes far too long over shots
Way to over think it
Please don’t go. It is Saudi Money. Stand up be a great American and great at golf. ❤️⛳️🇺🇸😘😘
No comment.
PGA tour's coverage is so bad the people watching this live didn't even get to see this happen in full screen or hear the conversation because of the tour's obnoxious greed. LIV golf is the future. The PGA tour is finished.
At this point Jordan's game is non-existent. He is falling like a rock in world rankings and unless he figures his game out he has become a mediocre pro golfer.
just think what would Deshambo do?
I think he's trying to make a golf swing like cameron smith, he's ultra dooshy with his consistent chat, being his caddy would be a really annoying job, like babysitting an annoying kid..
He's become a complete joke. His funky golf swing combined with the constant questioning of the club selection, etc. He's headed in all the wrong directions.
He’s a Pro and has to stand there that long to analyze the shot??? If you’re truly a pro, look at the height, distance, and obstacles, grab a club and hit the ball!! What’s your problem!?!?
rather watch LIV
This is why he doesn't have more wins. It's equal to a quarterback throwing it out of bounds vs trying to make the play, it's always better to play it safe unless your that good and he isn't.
I have been a follower of Jordan from his first win but I’ve lost my hopes for him. I know he won once this year after a long time between wins. He’s lost a lot of his concentration. I’ve started pulling for other players who are more consistent. I know he averages 10 million dollars per year is cash and investments. So he’s not hurting but if he could just concentrate a bit more he may return to his days of 2015.
@johnserrano8683
Жыл бұрын
Clown talks 2 much drama queen! Done
No gamble, no glory...... He took the most aggressive route in a risk vs. reward next to impossible shot. If he makes it he looks like Phil Mickelson when he's hot or like Jean van de Velde (the player who had a 3 shot lead at the 1999 British Open on the 18th hole and lost in grand fashion.) All that matters is he took the caddies take under advisement but chose the aggressive route, and absolutely owned it when it didn't pan out for him. I see nothing wrong with how it played out.
Speaking of downside. That perfectly describes Jordans career
What annoys me about this, is that if Spieth doesn't make the money, it doesn't really make a difference to him. But for his caddie, it would be a huge deal.
@oozy5272
Жыл бұрын
Generally this is correct but this caddie in particular is already a millionaire.
@tapryor2tonysub150
Жыл бұрын
I would say the caddie is lucky to piggyback off spieths skill to earn a living so he can deal with some bad decisions from time to time.
@brahamthomas1198
Жыл бұрын
@@tapryor2tonysub150 you don't know how much work caddies do
@ericlee9629
Жыл бұрын
@@brahamthomas1198 you don’t know how much work real people with real jobs do
@brahamthomas1198
Жыл бұрын
@@ericlee9629 I am a real person with a real job, so I do... but ok
What has happened to a once great player? I warned him--don’t get married!
lol 🤭
@fidelmavdvdoshea1021
Жыл бұрын
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What I heard was a caddie putting doubt in his player's head...
@kennyg1358
10 ай бұрын
You should doubt your ability to hit a 1% shot.
@tankhalffull
10 ай бұрын
@@kennyg1358 LOL! Doubt is the enemy of success....
@vangledosh
4 ай бұрын
It’s not putting doubt in his head, he’s simply suggesting the smart thing to do
Dude....quit overthinking everything?! Let your natural ability take over like you were doing early in your career. C'mon man!!
@ryanmaney1635
Жыл бұрын
this is spot on. After the meltdown in 2016 at the masters he has done this time and time again. He thinks more analytics the better off he is. Just look at his swing, complete opposite of natural
@judynichols2904
Жыл бұрын
Cantlay won because he made a decision and never overthought that decision !
Spieth takes so long on every shot, he is missing tourney cuts because he takes to long to make a swing decision. Get back to basics....get up to the ball and just hit the F er
First
still acts like a little brat...
And he wonders why no one likes him
His problem is he knows the camera are there and he wants so bad to be like tiger woods and sound like it takes a degree to just swing a wedge. Grow up Jordan
Yeah, that golfer is an absolute pill. Just the neurotic nature of his over analysis is difficult to watch.