Jordan Peterson on Forgiveness

Dr. Peterson discusses the intricate interplay between the Christian ethic of forgiveness and the necessity to hold others accountable.
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  • @AFringedGentian
    @AFringedGentian11 ай бұрын

    I understand “forgiveness” as “giving up my right to revenge” and not “what you did was fine”.

  • @hanswoast7

    @hanswoast7

    11 ай бұрын

    I would rephrase it to "I will not punish you for this, since I think you already did that for me. I have reason to assume you have learned your lesson and I am willing to move on and give it another try"

  • @superstaranan

    @superstaranan

    11 ай бұрын

    Or I “choose” not to revenge but to forgive

  • @djb7116

    @djb7116

    11 ай бұрын

    I think that's what survivors of the Holocaust also think, no revenge but definitely blame

  • @rachelkingsley668

    @rachelkingsley668

    11 ай бұрын

    This is exactly how I understand it too! Xx

  • @Kevin-sr8yx

    @Kevin-sr8yx

    11 ай бұрын

    Excellent take.

  • @Very_Silly_Individual
    @Very_Silly_Individual11 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail, though. Peterson has got maximum swagger.

  • @youbetyourwrasse

    @youbetyourwrasse

    11 ай бұрын

    yes .. but please pray for him .. because it may be a tough road ahead .. and we don't want ot lose him again.

  • @dawnt6791
    @dawnt679111 ай бұрын

    Right on the mark! Human forgiveness & accountability must be held in the same tension as God's grace & judgment. We can't have one without the other. To go extreme in either direction is bad.

  • @azademd8016

    @azademd8016

    11 ай бұрын

    So you think you are equal to God😆😆

  • @dawnt6791

    @dawnt6791

    11 ай бұрын

    @@azademd8016Not even close, but I do believe we are to look to Him as our example. Your response is ridiculous, and I'm sure you know that.

  • @azademd8016

    @azademd8016

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dawnt6791 It's like a cockroach looking at a man as an example. How stupid some people are

  • @tiffanyscott3544
    @tiffanyscott354411 ай бұрын

    -“If we want to live in harmony, we abide by the peace that judgement brings.” -Jordan Peterson

  • @tiffanyscott3544

    @tiffanyscott3544

    10 ай бұрын

    @@bhatrhalkno8290 Amen!

  • @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals
    @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals11 ай бұрын

    This couple is iconic and I wish for all who are married to have this genuine communication. That is the between the lines that's so important.

  • @FirstLast-zk5ow
    @FirstLast-zk5ow11 ай бұрын

    Mind says, hold them accountable. Heart says, let it go. And when the 2 become 1, in the same house. Mountains will be moved.

  • @DorothySpang
    @DorothySpang11 ай бұрын

    ❤❤ I wish lectures from Peterson would be curriculum in schools.

  • @Kevin-sr8yx

    @Kevin-sr8yx

    11 ай бұрын

    They used to be.

  • @lucumi3928
    @lucumi392811 ай бұрын

    I think a forgiving heart is one that does not consider the past/present actions of a person as permanently defining of all they are and could ever be, almost like you believe in the potential they still hold regardless of the action they committed, but that does not at all mean they never atone for what they did, and in fact, the clearest indication that they still hold that potential to be greater is the fact that they are wholly willing to atone. I think that is fair.

  • @jacobvanveit3437
    @jacobvanveit343711 ай бұрын

    This man is so great because he puts so much energy into being human. It’s been a long time since I was so strapped to the idea. I know when I go it’ll be held on by a thread. For Jordan, it will need a set of bolt cutters to get him to leave! For that he’s incredibly inspiring, a great roll model and hero! Much love! Salute to him!

  • @callum7081
    @callum708111 ай бұрын

    Bro got the drip on the thumbnail 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Getit_gotit_good
    @Getit_gotit_good11 ай бұрын

    THAT THUMBNAIL!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @NuclearFalcon146
    @NuclearFalcon14611 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness is not a mandate, it is a tool. It is there purely to prevent you from being in the "when you only have a hammer then every problem is a nail" situation. The mandate is judgement (as in determining the best course of action) and such judgements are to be held to account. Punishment and mercy BOTH must be justified. Unjustified punishment is itself is a crime, but unjustified mercy renders you an accomplice in whatever crime was committed by the offender and not just the crime they are currently on the hook for but any subsequent crimes they commit on release. The concept of unjustified mercy is something people really need to learn about and it seems like that knowledge is either actively suppressed or, worse still, actively promoted as a false virtue.

  • @Gingerblaze

    @Gingerblaze

    11 ай бұрын

    This is really valuable insight.

  • @Dailydoseofstupitity2
    @Dailydoseofstupitity211 ай бұрын

    Audio quality 10/10 👍👍👍

  • @williamwelling4872
    @williamwelling487211 ай бұрын

    Forgiven for what telling the truth this world in upside-down

  • @NewPraetorianBlues
    @NewPraetorianBlues11 ай бұрын

    Before I even watch what I'm sure is a riveting conversation, that thumbnail is one of the best pictures of Dr. Peterson!

  • @rickcarson9423
    @rickcarson942311 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I enjoy your perspective.

  • @paralicular3927
    @paralicular392711 ай бұрын

    Premium grade wheat. I've pondered on the best way to justify forgiveness that would allow a new balance. Mercy is one-sided and the same goes for repentance, either one alone is not enough to avoid further transgressions nor can it fully heal the past. And this is the key. Accountability to each other holds both the mercuful and the repentant together, reinforced by self-discipline.

  • @VaanG0v
    @VaanG0v11 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail though! 100% fire.

  • @flashwashington2735
    @flashwashington273511 ай бұрын

    I love the 'Dr. Strangelove' vibe of your thumbnail. Keep dancing and romancing the world! God. Bless.

  • @cindysandberg643
    @cindysandberg64310 ай бұрын

    Man of the century...Jordan Peterson.

  • @chuckwestfall9186
    @chuckwestfall918611 ай бұрын

    Amazing Man

  • @happylove7095
    @happylove709511 ай бұрын

    Love Jordan!!

  • @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals

    @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals

    11 ай бұрын

    And Tammy, who has her own channel!

  • @DailyCorvid
    @DailyCorvid11 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness is strength of character, punishment for accountability is not really a strength more just a necessity of existence. You don't _need_ forgiveness in the society, just it's _beneficial_ to do so. But that requires strength of character, to turn the other cheek in the face of provocation from fools.

  • @youbetyourwrasse

    @youbetyourwrasse

    11 ай бұрын

    WEll .. I guess that depends on how much you value society. Because if "[Y]ou don't need forgiveness in the society .." than I presume you con't want marriages to be strong with children of good character. Becuase If man and woman cannot see eye-to-eye .. nothing else matters.

  • @neildobbs7278

    @neildobbs7278

    11 ай бұрын

    I would argue that forgiveness is necessary. In that we realize our own convictions whilst judging others for theirs. It may help tilt the scale towards a truer sense of justice, or at least provide homeostasis. To say that all punishment is born out of necessity assumes that the punishment always fits the crime. That's why the judiciary system is so complex, but can also be played like a game, at least according to game theory. I think Jordan's analysis is correct, there can not be forgiveness without judgement, because we are constantly thinking about the future of the species, even at an unconscious level, which is why societies built on religious foundations last so long.

  • @thomasarnoldcoe6527
    @thomasarnoldcoe652711 ай бұрын

    Just what I needed Thanks JP

  • @rajeshreepralhadnikam3895
    @rajeshreepralhadnikam389511 ай бұрын

    Love you Dr. P

  • @holyghost718
    @holyghost71811 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness and accountability are two completely different things... Twitter should allow more freedom of speech

  • @youbetyourwrasse

    @youbetyourwrasse

    11 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness and accountability are intimately related. For is one cannot accomplish the first, one is in NO POSITION to tackle the second.

  • @holyghost718

    @holyghost718

    11 ай бұрын

    @@youbetyourwrasse accountability doesn't care about your feelings. If you don't feed your dog he starves to death whether he forgave you or not.

  • @erikhayes1
    @erikhayes111 ай бұрын

    I'm really going over this with a fine tooth comb in my mind. I am not sure I am tracking with Dr. Peterson accurately. My children, who are now all in their 30's and have their own families are still suffering from their inability, or perhaps more accurately, unwillingness to forgive me for how horrible I was when they were growing up. I am not wanting them to forgive me for my sake, that is not something that I should ever want or ask for. Rather, I am wanting them to find forgiveness for the peace that I hope it will being them, because I see what the lack of foregiveness is doing to them, even if we never have the relationship I would like for us to have. So, I am trying to figure out how to help them move in that direction, or if I should just put them in Gods hands.

  • @trevhib

    @trevhib

    11 ай бұрын

    Why on earth or in heaven would you never want or ask for your children's forgiveness? God's pattern for forgiveness is there to be followed. Read Psalm 86:5. It shows God is waiting to forgive. What is he waiting for? For people to show repentance and to desire & ask for forgiveness, so that reconciliation can happen, or at least begin to happen. Your children are much more likely to forgive you (which will ultimately be for their benefit, as you say), if you show a truly repentant heart (confess with words and demonstrate with actions), and ask them for their forgiveness. In fact it's very possibly the thing they are waiting for. That is the beginning of the process and indeed that is how you put the situation in God's hands (in the event they don't respond immediately). Bless you Erik. Trev, Derby, UK.

  • @mpclepto182

    @mpclepto182

    11 ай бұрын

    You can't put them anywhere because you abdicated all authority over them by treating them in such an injurious way. They're already in God's hands. All you can do is, if you don't already, truly repent and ask for their forgiveness. What they decide to do after you've asked is really none of your business, though we can hope they may forgive and lead to a restoration of the relationship. Still, if you're waiting for them to find forgiveness because you see what they're doing, maybe all you're really seeing in them is what's really in you.

  • @erikhayes1

    @erikhayes1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@trevhib You're assuming that I haven't asked for forgiveness, and that I have not apologized. You do not know what I have or have not done. I would go so far as to say, that as a man who has messed up as badly as I did, I have gone farther than 99% of men who have screwed up just as bad to do these three things. 1) Look in the mirror, accpet responsibility for who I was, and focus like a laser beam to change. 2) I have on multiple occassions over the last 20 years apologized to my children, and the work I put into change demonstrates that my words actually have meaning and substance, and 3) I have continurally offered to make myself available if they decide to seek counseling. If their counselor wants me involved in a session, I will be there in a blink of an eye.

  • @trevhib

    @trevhib

    10 ай бұрын

    @@erikhayes1 Apologies Erik, I misread this sentence from your OP: _I am not wanting them to forgive me for my sake, that is not something that I should ever want or ask for._ I didn't see the three words 'for my sake'. I thought you were saying something rather different, that you would never want or ask for forgiveness, my fault. Just one thing, apologising and asking for forgiveness are two different things. If you have actually asked them for their forgiveness however then it is already in God's hands and all you can do is continue to be different to how you were. God removes the penalty but the consqeunces remain, though I hope your children find a way to be reconciled with you. All the best.

  • @petergambino2129

    @petergambino2129

    10 ай бұрын

    You Sir, are not alone. Many parents I know are going though the same thing with their children. Some, like me, who have made mistakes which led to estrangement, and many who did all the right things, and yet are separated from their children. The Bible foretold of these times, and it, seems true, in the here and now.

  • @christiroseify
    @christiroseify11 ай бұрын

    Dr Peterson, I came from a house of great abuse... How do you "forgive" your parent/parents??? You accept that they too were sick and not able to know that what they did was "wrong".... As to accountability, I can forgive one and still remove them from my life... Forgiving someone does not mean allowing them to do it again...

  • @tomershahar7073
    @tomershahar707311 ай бұрын

    Jordan be nailing that Oppenheimer look

  • @MobbingQueen-ty3bh
    @MobbingQueen-ty3bh11 ай бұрын

    Go with your heart .

  • @KeneOliver
    @KeneOliver11 ай бұрын

    Outstanding

  • @mindstrecher
    @mindstrecher11 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness is for your soul. Holding someone accountable is for theirs.

  • @mpclepto182

    @mpclepto182

    11 ай бұрын

    You summed it up best I've seen. It isn't that forgiveness requires of the injured to put themselves back into the identical situation they were in before. Nor that the person who injured them must be restored to exactly the position they were before. If a man steals his neighbor's wallet because it was out on the table. The man who had his wallet stolen, should he forgive, doesn't have to keep setting out his wallet as he did before as a proof that he has "forgiven" his neighbor. No, he forgave his neighbor, but his actions after are allowed to be different. Now, he might actually put his wallet out again, but it isn't a requirement either. But what often is lost in this discussion is that "forgiveness" results in a change of spirit for the forgiver, but true repentance results in the change of the one being forgiven. If the man with the stolen wallet forgives, but the stealer doesn't repent, then there certainly is no requirement for the wallet to be left out. In fact, we would regard the once injured man a fool (fool me twice...). So forgiveness is often misunderstood in much the same way as repentance. And if that isn't enough, accountability is misunderstood along side of mercy. Mercy in the above example being, the forgiving man who had his wallet stolen hears the repentance of the man who stole it and has mercy in not requiring the money inside of it to be returned. But, what I see frequently is that the injurious party claims those they injured are now injuring them by not giving "forgiveness". However, the "forgiveness" as they wish it is simply to forget that the injurer is capable of harm. And so, the guilty show their lack of repentance and so, yes, should you forgive them, but you would be a complete fool to allow them back into their previous level of trust in your life. They are essentially asking you to have the same lack of love for yourself they had for you when they first injured you. This is how words are turned exactly backwards and, in so doing, exist as proof themselves that the one's speaking them are indeed the guilty. Their own words condemn them. When someone steals your wallet, then screams at you to forgive them....your response to remove them from your life isn't coming from the judgement you have for them. It is coming from the healthy self love you show for yourself by not allowing them to injure you in such a way again. The misunderstanding of this entire process is how people succumb to abusers and their abuse. This is the same process abusive tyrannical governments use to attack their citizens. This is the same method the Devil uses to make us feel too small to stand up to him. This is why I say, "I can forgive someone for their actions while simultaneously swinging the executioner's axe on their neck". Addendum on mercy: The only person who can decide to give mercy to another is the one who stands to be abused by trusting the guilty again. You and I as adults cannot show mercy to pedophiles because, should they one day walk free, we aren't the ones who will be harmed should they choose to harm again. Which is why some crimes are so great that the only solution is to separate the guilty from their life because their continued existence in this life poses a threat to those who have no ability to protect themselves. A pedophile locked away forever may find a way to escape one day, but no 4 year old will ever be capable of defending themselves from any pedophile. This is why the death penalty is the only acceptable form of accountability for someone who would harm a child.

  • @mindstrecher

    @mindstrecher

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mpclepto182 You articulate very well Love that. Texting my thoughts is my greatest windmill aside from general ignorance. A pleasure conversing with someone of high caliber. Slide note: I have been incarcerated with the pedos of which you speak. Was bad when I was younger. Been free and clean of criminal actions for 27yrs. Your assessment is correct. The only two things that would make me not be for the death penalty in any circumstance, is the failures of justice in the past, and the fact that it removes the ability to repent to God. Logically it is correct. One need to remember their own soul when passing judgement as well. Sorry Im rusty in my language skills.

  • @mpclepto182

    @mpclepto182

    11 ай бұрын

    Your language hasn't detracted from my enjoyment of the conversation. Though, I'm not certain what you mean by "texting is a windmill" is in this case because windmill is an unusual word to use to describe such a thing. I agree with you that the innocent may be wrongfully executed. Which is why any justice system that would give executions must first adhere to the rule that "it is better for 9 guilty men to go free than 1 innocent man to be found guilty". That's where proof beyond a shadow of a doubt is a requirement. If there is even the slightest possibility for doubt, then no guilt may be found (though guilt may actually be the case). I would say those currently in charge of our justice system in the USA do not meet that requirement, therefore, they have no right to complete executions. That being said, if those people were trustworthy, then yes, executions are back on the table. Also execution does not remove the ability to repent, it simply reduces the amount of time one has to actually do so. Execution by the state by hanging is identical to that of you or I shooting a burglar in the night. In both cases justice is dispensed and in both cases it results in the death of the guilty. The difference is, the state took longer to accomplish the goal than the cop did. By the metric of time, the guilty should count themselves lucky to have been caught by the state and not by his fellow man as his life has been artificially prolonged. The sum of all of God's commands is to love your neighbor. God also said to not murder. But God never said anything about passivism and not killing. In fact, He has told many of His followers to take an action that results in them killing many. I believe you and I are in complete agreement of where society should go, we're simply discussing how to get there. And that's a discussion worth having because I may think going around the mountain is smartest, but you might see a pass through it that is far better.

  • @mindstrecher

    @mindstrecher

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mpclepto182 Don Quixote's story I was trying to link it to me trying to share insights with ppl. It being something I enjoy far too little. And I concur with the last post. We are in agreement.

  • @mpclepto182

    @mpclepto182

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mindstrecher I haven't heard the story of Don Quixote in a good number of years. It's been long enough I really only remember the name!

  • @arindamroy5287
    @arindamroy528711 ай бұрын

    I love the rapper jordan thumbnail

  • @maryallisonmusic615
    @maryallisonmusic61510 ай бұрын

    This was the best explanation for forgiveness I've ever witnessed. Thank you. Clarifying ♡

  • @farshadmn4273
    @farshadmn427311 ай бұрын

    Danke 💯 ...

  • @KW-es2bz
    @KW-es2bz11 ай бұрын

    Wise as usual! As a former kidnapped and highly physically tortured person, I can speak to this. We can forgive little things easily I guess, but for these types wicked crimes we must have the power of Almighty God. He enables us to do this by his Holy Spirits power. I’ve fully forgiven these human monsters, but for sure when it comes my time to testify what they did to me and others, I’ll be there to do so. Nevertheless, God enables us to forgive since he requires we do so. 🤗

  • @azademd8016

    @azademd8016

    11 ай бұрын

    You should never forgive human monsters

  • @KW-es2bz

    @KW-es2bz

    11 ай бұрын

    @@azademd8016 sorry, the Bible says if we don’t forgive, God will not forgive us. I personally want God to forgive me. God bless you.

  • @azademd8016

    @azademd8016

    11 ай бұрын

    @@KW-es2bz ُThe bible does not say such a thing. You dont know the bible. Only Jesus among all other prophets have said that. /all the others promise Hell and fire for evil people. And Jesus never said forgive child molesters, rapists, thieves and killers

  • @malcolmwatt7386
    @malcolmwatt738611 ай бұрын

    Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. The principal is to be forgiven like you forgive.

  • @Okillydokilly69
    @Okillydokilly6911 ай бұрын

    Are we just not gonna talk about the sunglasses?

  • @Blaze92NL
    @Blaze92NL11 ай бұрын

    Easy with the thumbnails bro

  • @kathrynoneill81
    @kathrynoneill8111 ай бұрын

    GREAT discussion on actual forgiveness, which involves a great deal of communication to get to an UNDERSTANDING of what went wrong as well as the re-making of new boundaries. All this allows 2 parties to move forward. Forgiveness takes mental effort and courage. Fake statements of forgiveness are lazy and non-genuine.

  • @ElGuerreroMaya
    @ElGuerreroMaya11 ай бұрын

    Whoever made that thumbnail is an icon

  • @Findmylimit
    @Findmylimit11 ай бұрын

    Yo home slice I’m diggin the thumbnail ya dig

  • @AuntieOfSeven
    @AuntieOfSeven10 ай бұрын

    Well said sir, well said.

  • @dgreeofmeangiveitallucan2305
    @dgreeofmeangiveitallucan230511 ай бұрын

    Ive been watch your clips for a long time and try to understand there timing and importance of when or if the order of them mean something that is happening in your life that has comed up in thought or event reminds you of something and seeing if it will help by given a short talk that is easy for the attention span to grasp better. I mean it by how I am guess that your feeling that there is a deep meaning when you do talk or speak about what there is. Just I have felt similar but have notice people at your age kinda do that when speaking. Hasn't always work for the point to be seen actual about someone else but more of yourself in how your putting has just great felt meaning to it and it does feel like the amount of times its done starts to play a effect that is to put it. Not in my opinion people don't have to the capabilities or not with the skill practice to do the same as speaking with deep meaning to themselves which can place a difference in how one may take hearing from someone beside themselves not being able to have that felt as strong enough when listening. Try to explain how people can reach that skill of talking with themselves or towards themselves with another or without someone to be on the same level of how your reaching to so much in how it can be confusion in directions, and many people stop themselves from letting it happen. Difficulties would be nice to hear what they are to be identified better for people to watch out for it in their daily lifes or how they can spot it with themselves to have a realization of their own within there life that they will remember your voice as wisdom. Betting that is what your truly reach for people to have that they think or have you be a symbol in their life's. Tell me if I got it you figure out in your most desirable outcome with others.

  • @arafatdimitry
    @arafatdimitry11 ай бұрын

    Thumbnail on point like a fullstop

  • @photonsword
    @photonsword11 ай бұрын

    Those sunglasses on the thumbnail are great

  • @PoetlaureateNFDL
    @PoetlaureateNFDL11 ай бұрын

    A big part of forgiveness is having compassion for the other person’s positive potential. Willing to give them another pass until they do it again. Takes patience but does not require suspension of all judgement.

  • @Cinderella227
    @Cinderella22711 ай бұрын

    We need to forgive so we too can be forgiven because no one is perfect but God. Those who cannot forgive, cannot enter Heaven. Thank you Jordan ✝️❤️

  • @znklnkrt2944
    @znklnkrt294411 ай бұрын

    I would love to hear your take on proverbs. One can dive really deep into that. Everyone finds themselves somewhere inside there as it starts with the average Joe and works it's way through to the ethics of kings and queens. Please do a take on that if you can find a way..

  • @peripheralparadox4218
    @peripheralparadox421811 ай бұрын

    Revenge has its merits. It is fear of retribution and revenge that stops many people from violating you or your things. Sometimes if you don’t retaliate, then you look/are weak and that can lead to worse scenarios. Of course every situation is different, but I think sometimes, although not often, revenge is necessary. I think it would be easier to forgive after revenge has been taken too. Depending on the situation!

  • @sumtingwong8768
    @sumtingwong876811 ай бұрын

    Its for you not them, for your sake, so you can be at peace

  • @ENYGMA_PLAGUE
    @ENYGMA_PLAGUE11 ай бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @rolofunk2792
    @rolofunk279211 ай бұрын

    stay strong, your the best, Jesus Bless You Jordan

  • @RibbittIII
    @RibbittIII11 ай бұрын

    that thumbnail is fire

  • @rafael_dp92
    @rafael_dp925 ай бұрын

    The thumbnail on this clip makes JP the Godfather 👑

  • @mindstrecher
    @mindstrecher11 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness is a you action. Holding ppl accountable is mainly a community action.

  • @kimberlywescott1489
    @kimberlywescott148911 ай бұрын

    Judgement, in the sense of deciding what should ultimately become of the offender belongs to God. Judgement, in the sense that we judge another’s actions as right or wrong-particularly as those actions impact us - is necessary to survive in life without being a chronic victim. Forgiveness - as it relates to accepting a sincere apology and moving forward without holding a grudge is difficult, but necessary in a civil society and, most especially, in an intimate relationship. Forgiveness interpreted to mean “anything goes” is the antithesis of civil society.

  • @Serving.God.And.Humanity
    @Serving.God.And.Humanity10 ай бұрын

    Our victory is in the blood of Jesus, the authority of Jesus, and in the anointing of Jesus! We are anointed to share the Truth of God’s Word to a dying and hopeless world.

  • @benjanes3675
    @benjanes367511 ай бұрын

    I think of judge not lest ye be judged to mean that an individual should not judge someone who they don't know, because in reality I will never be in a situation where a person I actually know hasn't judged me. It's like a ban on gossip.

  • @andrew_ortega89
    @andrew_ortega8911 ай бұрын

    There is a disturbing difference in volume between Mr. Peterson's voice and the music in the end.

  • @boom_handled
    @boom_handled11 ай бұрын

    I have a better take on that topic: To not forgive someone is to refuse to take back the role of holding them Accountable. 👏👏👏

  • @elliottobelliotnwaobi4779
    @elliottobelliotnwaobi477911 ай бұрын

    JP finna use this Video thumbnail as his Album cover.

  • @youraveragejo3561
    @youraveragejo356110 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness has been essential to my journey. It is something that is fundamental to most religious schools of thought. Indeed it was known if you do not have the capacity to forgive, you can not love. Forgiveness however should not be mistaken with poor boundaries or no boundaries. What is wrong, is still wrong, but your choosing to move on from that and it doesn't mean you'll tolerate more of the same. It's just taking hold of what happened being aware of it and choosing to move forward in a new way. Establishing a new relationship improving communication and relational dynamics and being self aware enough to know what you can accept tolerate and what you can not. If you communicate your boundaries and hold tight to truth (not 'your truth' not 'their truth' but what is factually and tangibly true). Anything else is perceptions and feelings. And when we mistake that for truth we're really in trouble. Harm and evil must and should be condemned. But your views and your feelings are yours. And it's about denouncing what is wrong not the person. As people are often sick and this sickness takes many forms. But truth is fact and the world and can never be negated for long and the repercussions for doing so are severe. Hence, my concern in the modern world with more and more people becoming victims of their own delusion. It's not a kindness to buy into a lie, it's just leaving people open to being naked and vulnerable. Truth is what we gird I most vulnerable areas with. If we don't then it's where we become most fragile.

  • @fredcupo2085
    @fredcupo208510 ай бұрын

    😎 👍

  • @peripheralparadox4218
    @peripheralparadox421811 ай бұрын

    We are all somewhere on the spectrum of good and evil. It seems that some level of randomness is involved with where on that spectrum you occupy the most. Really good people generally don’t choose to be really good people. It’s a calling from within. Similarly most really evil people weren’t good, and then suddenly decided to flick the evil switch. Most people aren’t serial killers because they don’t want to be serial killers. So that’s one perspective that I think helps with forgiveness. Wouldn’t it suck to be evil. For sure, some people move a lot on the moral spectrum, but there is also a significant degree of randomness. Aren’t you lucky you have the wisdom and propensity to not be evil. And if you are evil and have an adequate IQ, you can’t ignore the fact that you are a slave to the darkness within that perverts your instincts and ultimately makes you suffer, one way or another.

  • @DRAGONSSCREAM
    @DRAGONSSCREAM10 ай бұрын

    Thumbnail goes hard

  • @essassasassaass
    @essassasassaass11 ай бұрын

    am i the only one who expected dr. peterson to have sunglasses on when the camera panned over to him? 😎😂

  • @brendangolledge8312
    @brendangolledge831211 ай бұрын

    IMO, forgiveness & holding accountable should both be done to maximize the good. If someone wronged you, and genuinely repents (tries to pay you back for the wrong he did and makes an effort to make sure it doesn't happen again), then forgiving is an obvious thing to do, because holding it against him won't accomplish anything. If he doesn't repent, then don't forgive him, because he'll do it again if you give him the chance. Even God in the Bible expects people to repent before forgiving them. Although, from a psychological perspective, it might be better to let go of resentment towards an unrepentant sinner (although you still don't trust that person).

  • @trongphan1888

    @trongphan1888

    11 ай бұрын

    right on point man

  • @rioforce
    @rioforce11 ай бұрын

    I just am here to say that Peterson DRIP in the thumbnail looking 🔥

  • @youbetyourwrasse
    @youbetyourwrasse11 ай бұрын

    Judgments can ONLY be just if they come from the place of the "worse case scenario." Can a person who has never used drugs best tell a person how to deal with drugs? Can a person who has never been eaten by evil speak to the nature of evil as it eats? The ROOT IS LOVE. Only love can overcome evil. Not logic or reason .. sure they observe the material manifestations .. but only LOVE can be both father and executioner. The amount of evil to overcome within myself is something I did not bargain on. But as Dr P himself said, the shadow in not intergated until we can see ourselves as an Auschwitz guard .. and LIKING IT. Sick stuff .. but it works gold.

  • @maverick2246
    @maverick224611 ай бұрын

    You can forgive someone but you never forget what they did to you, you don't become evil because bad things happen to you, you remain clever and avoid repetition of those events in life. Because that's the difference between a victim and a victor but to win at life you don't ever forget what they did to you otherwise unknowingly that might happen again in different combinations of events but it does happen if you are not clever with your affairs.

  • @SpicyGoose.
    @SpicyGoose.11 ай бұрын

    When I was 14 when I forgave my very abusive brother. He had gone through a military challenge program and had changed a lot. I forgave him because of God. He is still an effort sometimes to be a sister to because he still is a little bit of a narcissist, but God makes it manageable.

  • @randywise5241
    @randywise524111 ай бұрын

    If person does something wrong and is really sorry about it, it is okay to forgive it. But not to forget it. They must know not to ever do it again or all trust will be lost. You will still need to forgive them in your heart to keep them from living in your mind. But you should have nothing more to do with them.

  • @baloonfart8082
    @baloonfart808211 ай бұрын

    Repentance is key to reconciliation which is needed for true forgiveness, no one remembers that.

  • @isaacpau1520
    @isaacpau152011 ай бұрын

    Who took this iconic thumbnail 😎

  • @gregb3457
    @gregb345711 ай бұрын

    Pretty well spoken Jordan, but I believe you would admit, it's not the whole story here, in this small clip. Here is what I have learned through the decades: Forgiveness, if we think deeply about what Christ taught in the scriptures, is being willing to bear the cost of the pain of their offense, no matter how bad it is. That willingness comes not from our own being, our own wholeness, intellect, or any other part of our own standards of excellence, which are always faulty at best; but rather it comes from the deep understanding that we ourselves are forgiven - for everything we have done - the totality of every single offense we have ever committed, toward God, or mankind. This flood of well-being we possess for such a reality, must NOT BE WITHHELD, from anyone. Otherwise, we chain ourselves to their offenses against us, our whole lives. That is self destructive too. A heart that withholds forgiveness CANNOT, cannot, is not able, to experience the deep forgiveness and love of God, through Jesus Christ, at the same time.

  • @petergambino2129

    @petergambino2129

    10 ай бұрын

    Very well put.

  • @ezrapierce1233
    @ezrapierce123311 ай бұрын

    When it panned to him I was expecting to see him in shades. - "Disappointment noises"

  • @canoedoc2390
    @canoedoc239011 ай бұрын

    If there is no judgement between right and wrong, there would never be any need for forgiveness. That we have evolved to the point of being capable of making moral judgements may be the best evidence for the existence of the transcendent reality we call God.

  • @hamdoolam
    @hamdoolam11 ай бұрын

    Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

  • @mmbidiwilliam2414
    @mmbidiwilliam241411 ай бұрын

    Thumbnail 😂😂

  • @kiyanrassouli
    @kiyanrassouli11 ай бұрын

    Not the most sophisticated comment, but damn that thumbnail‘s fire

  • @fru1074
    @fru10744 ай бұрын

    2:11 can anyone expand on the sophisticated philosophy of evil? Does JP talk about it in any other video? Is there any other information online?

  • @wenz5682
    @wenz568211 ай бұрын

    I just want to know where was that thumbnail taken

  • @mikehenry7848
    @mikehenry784810 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness is not always needed. Some do not deserve the kind notion.

  • @miketrissel5494
    @miketrissel549411 ай бұрын

    The coining of the phrase, "FORGIVE AND FORGET", is not of Biblical origin. Forgiveness is something we should do, but thousands of years of Biblical history has been recorded for us to REMEMBER ... not forget. I have only ever found one verse in the Bible that even puts the 2 words in the same sentence, and in it's context God says he will forgive, and make himself forget the past sins against him.

  • @xyzculture
    @xyzculture11 ай бұрын

    ayoo Jordan Peterson got da drip in thumbnail💀💀💀

  • @Razear
    @Razear11 ай бұрын

    I don't think it's healthy to hold grudges, but at the same time, there are some actions that are so heinous that you're better off completely cutting ties with the person who transgressed you.

  • @grimace4257
    @grimace425711 ай бұрын

    Jp is going through his Dr Strangelove phase 😂

  • @jacobmartizano116
    @jacobmartizano11610 ай бұрын

    Dr Jordan Peterson on the thumbnail: 😎

  • @melomateus_m.r
    @melomateus_m.r10 ай бұрын

    Peterson in the thumbnail looks like he is about to drop the hottest album of 2023.

  • @keithburt7874
    @keithburt787411 ай бұрын

    I'm glad Solomon came up, his time of Darkness carried forward into this year with Covenants and Agreements that was beyond our world, we have much Work in Light to do that we have not even imagined, Peace3ed

  • @MiriadCalibrumAstar
    @MiriadCalibrumAstar11 ай бұрын

    menacing Jordan B Perterson cant hurt you, *sees thumbnail*.

  • @norsefalconer
    @norsefalconer11 ай бұрын

    Forgiveness isn't permission for "them" to do it again. Mostly, it's not about "them" at all. It's an opportunity for the receiver to let go of the inner negativity the infraction caused.

  • @charlesiragui2473
    @charlesiragui247311 ай бұрын

    The Beatitudes are a guide. Forgiving is a spiritual exercise. 3Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. 4Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the Earth. 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied. 7Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the Sons of God. 10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. All of these relate to the injustice of this world and how we cleanse ourselves from the burden of resentment. As Peterson says, it’s not about ignoring injustice.

  • @YHWHsaves-dot-com
    @YHWHsaves-dot-com11 ай бұрын

    Well said, amen.

  • @pastorelorenzo2720
    @pastorelorenzo272011 ай бұрын

    A moment of silence for the people who came here for jordan's sunglasses in the thumbnail and got this.

  • @aljonserna5598
    @aljonserna559810 ай бұрын

    The New Testament taught the followers to judge RIGHTEOUSLY

  • @milton7763
    @milton776310 ай бұрын

    I can forgive what you did. I cannot forgive what you’re doing

  • @tm27field
    @tm27field10 ай бұрын

    Cool thumbnail

  • @corrineadams4857
    @corrineadams485711 ай бұрын

    Forgive........and never forget . My memory is very long .

  • @youbetyourwrasse

    @youbetyourwrasse

    11 ай бұрын

    Remember WHAT? How horrible another is for what they did to you? Or how wonderful you are for "forgiving" them? 'Because both are evident you haven't forgiven. Unless you remember the license plate. Then GO GET 'EM TIGER!