what about 200 years together. peterson says nothing when asked about it.

@donutmeister

2 жыл бұрын

Because it exposes the Bolsheviks as who they actually were.

@Hadriantheemperorofrome

Ай бұрын

you mean peterstein?

@DakarBlues

26 күн бұрын

There is a clear reason why this book is forbidden in America. If it was allowed, even dunces would then recognize that the same Bolsheviks who ran Russia, are now running America, they just swapped the blouse and cap for the business suit/dress and tie. They are now in Congress and Senate, and every corridor of power. Unless they are rooted out,you can bet top dollar they are planning the next holodomor, dozens of millions will die if they are not stopped 😤.

@Evolution_10_X

13 күн бұрын

Becuase it exposes the J's.

My grandfather was a political prisoner in Soviet Union and he was tortured to make him sign a confession, he did sign it after days of beating and sleep deprivation. He was chosen to work as a recorder/accountant to keep track of the amount of work done by his brigade. After some time he was approached by one of the camp's administrators who offered him to be an informer against other prisoners. My grandfather refused. It was dangerous to refuse such an offer, but thankfully, they just left him alone and didn't do anything to him. My grandfather also told me that they had absolutely outstanding people among the political prisoners, famous writers, opera singers so on. He met a lot of brilliant people there.

@ExtremeRy

9 ай бұрын

So sad that this happened to so many people. I’m glad that your grandfather had the courage to say no to their offer.

@hannahreade2243

9 ай бұрын

interesting

@MichaelVandekolk-pe3vc

8 ай бұрын

Glory to the lord jesus christ the father and holyspirt filled belivers all who value freedom from sin nature sins penalty paid and sins future. I was also weak i wasn't ready for surveillance state I now know why a return to real and true miracles is needed to defeat starve or comply

@mcouture8169

6 ай бұрын

And college kids, inspired by narcissistic professors, want to bring socialism/communism here. Education is failing when the most basic truths are ignored while political speak is promoted. smh

Now do 200 yrs together Jordan!

@kgbkgb7616

Жыл бұрын

based

@jpbefree

Жыл бұрын

Juden Peterstein would never

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

@@jpbefree You mean Rabbi? Peterstein?

My grandpa was in Gulag. He told me about the terrible things that happened there. He said the camp was indeed run by the prisoners themselves. There were only few soldiers there. They were watching for food storage only. The next village was far enough that nobody would risk running away. What they say about death rate there is true. Not many survived few years he was there. He kept all the terrible memories to himself the whole life. He did not bother his wife with it, she had her own traumatic experiences when he was away. He told me his story shortly before his time came. I do not remember all the details, maybe I just do not want to, I do remember the horror that I felt when he was talking. Years later was the time that my father told me what he lived through. He also smuggled the book from the west. He was a translator so he could travel. I never found the courage to read it. Whatever that was that communists thought they did, nobody deserves this. I did not need these stories to know the system was rotten. I could see all the "the party with the folk, the folk with the party" posters everywhere. That is all one needs to know, that we were lied to. I find it extremely worrying what I see is happening in the West now. With the academia and media firmly in the hands of ideologues. The march through the institutions was successful indeed. The ideas look new on the surface but they have the same ugly inside. The worst thing is that we do not even have a massive oppression machine to force people into it. They seem to be already there. I hope this is not going where I fear it is going. How do we stop it?

@cyberblock7619

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe this type of mob run communism will be a better one, I hope.

@hanskloss7726

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyberblock7619 welhumanity runs its drunken course from one wall to another. Maybe we get oppression without gulags and dozens of millions of dead this time. I am pretty sure however that I neither want one nor the another.

@cyberblock7619

3 жыл бұрын

@@hanskloss7726 me neither but im afraid its too late, i just hope it will be a better communism then the ones of the past 😞

@cyberblock7619

3 жыл бұрын

@Se Fe How can we fight them of they own everything 😔

@serpentines6356

3 жыл бұрын

@Geaux...No, no one needs this...Get your mind out of the gutter...

I find myself going through a rough patch right now in my life, so I've been reading and watching youtube videos from authors such as Jordan Peterson. Peterson introduced me to many brilliant thinkers like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. I have never been, and probably will never be, in a gulag; but I have been re-examining my life. Although I was a product of a horrible parent and a less than stellar upbringing, there were times in my life where I could have reacted differently in certain situations. Acted my positively. Acted more honorably. I could have been a better husband, parent, son, friend, etc. Jordan Peterson does not know me, and we will probably never meet. But I thank him greatly for the wisdom he has shared throughout the years.

Rabbi, do 200 yrs together!

The Gulag Archipelago. Should be required reading. Thanks for this reminder. Where is Jordan? Is he recovered?

@maligjokica

4 жыл бұрын

he is in Florida with his family,resting from treatmant in Russia. there was very very short video how he played with a small dron in the backyard from his fb page(not run by him).

@SynnJynn

4 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised MSM didn't call him a Russian Asset

@xxvurltuallrealityxxx1006

3 жыл бұрын

Ahmaud Aubrey Good Boy Jogger And Home Inspector Yes, but hard to get a copy. There’s a pdf file on the net but not all the chapters are translated, at least not when I looked a few years back. Do you know where to get a copy?

@nedrain9044

3 жыл бұрын

@Vail Marsh In his daughter's words: kzread.info/dash/bejne/doirp6iaZbG9Ys4.html

@cameronadkins6268

3 жыл бұрын

He just did a podcast with his daughter and he looked to be doing well. You should check it out.

I'm halfway through only the *abridged* version of Gulag Archipelago, and all I feel is tears and rage.

I read The Gulag Archipelago in the eighties and it profoundly affected me. I felt that the whole message of the book was that if they threaten to throw your daughter to the syphilitic rapists if you don't dob in your neighbour, you don't dob in your neighbour because they will anyway and then you have lost not just your family but the one thing you should never give up under any circumstances - your integrity.

@skandakumar2457

3 жыл бұрын

true.if you kneel before tyrants, they'll never let you stand up again.ever

@onion6foot

3 жыл бұрын

@@skandakumar2457 Wendell Berry wrote a poem. I believe the title is "Do Not Be Ashamed" ( or something similar; has been a while since I referred to it)

@kacywentzel4468

2 жыл бұрын

Just like get the jab so you don't have to wear a mask any more. Oh wait, get the jab and keep wearing the mask.😢

@tubsy.

8 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ

200 years together is also a very, very powerfull book of Solzhenitsyn. People should read it. I believe there is a audio version of it on youtube.

“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.” ― Alexander Solzhenitsyn

@DZ-hh5dw

Жыл бұрын

Cool maybe start that integrity by not advocating for the genocide of non-whites like Solzhenitsyn does, that would be a great start mate, 2 thumbs up

@emmioglukant

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a pitiful existence. Perhaps better than to succumb however

@wstavis3135

7 ай бұрын

​@@emmioglukantwhat be a man if he have not honor?

@emmioglukant

7 ай бұрын

@@wstavis3135 never called it dishonorable

Every 5 years or so I read The Gulag Archipelago......and every time I´m amazed and stunned over the callousness and brutality. But it sets me straight and reminds me to be kind to my fellow human being.

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

You should read 200 yrs together.

@definitelynotedgar

7 ай бұрын

​@@windmillrespector*He can't do it!*

I'm reading the book and it is so well written. Why didn't we learn this in school? It really shows the danger of identity politics and where it can lead.

@nathanpettigrew6420

2 ай бұрын

We weren't taught this in school because it really shows the danger of identity politics and where it can lead.

At 4:02 he states that after the KGB got ahold of the text, "the typist committed suicide". I highly doubt this, as the KGB assassinations were routinely written off as suicides in the USSR.

persuasive and powerful presentation delivered with contagious passion!

The colour grading on this clip is also great

I could listen to Jordan speak for hours. Notice not single pause or um and his entire monologue weaves perfectly from introduction thru to conclusion. If nothing else, he is an amazing speaker and excellent teacher.

@koyaanisqatsi316

2 жыл бұрын

Until the point he gets a tough question about Solzjenitsyn. He would not answer the h0lodom0r question.

@reverenddick8562

2 жыл бұрын

1:15 there is an 'umm'. 😉 Don't get it twisted, I'm a big fan of JBP and a bigger fan of Stolzhnsyn.

@reverenddick8562

2 жыл бұрын

@@koyaanisqatsi316 would you in today's age? ... I just bought that book, funny enough.

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

@@reverenddick8562 Read 200 yrs together!

@reverenddick8562

Жыл бұрын

@@windmillrespector Working on it. I have an original Russian copy. Just so I know I'm getting everything

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's admiration of his fellow prisoners who kept their integrity in such troubling times is the same expression that Viktor Frankl made about his kinsmen in his autobiography "Man in Search of Meaning" where he also described seeing "saints" among him despite the horrendous situation they were in as well.

@taylorharbin3948

2 жыл бұрын

Frankl's book is an excellent companion.

@wstavis3135

7 ай бұрын

An excellent book and example.

Okay so I must say, gotten my life semi-together these days, but I’ve spent many moon 🌙 in jail, I have 2 felony convictions, barely graduated high school, highest education 12th grade, done some good things in my life I’ve also done some outright evil/wicked things as well, but Jordan, you really have helped me the last few months in understanding the ugly side of myself, and being okay with it. And learning how to keep it under control. And the benefits of having such personality traits, can be immeasurable if used correctly, and idk if it means something to others, but there is something SO profound about understanding your fundamental nature. Thank you for all of it JP

@rhysvanwyk9367

Жыл бұрын

Hope you still doing good

The importance of integrity. Without integrity nothing works. Gulag on my reading list this year

Just bought a copy of 'The Gulag Archipelago' and I may return to 'Ivan' one day (read it as a teenager and was absolutely hooked to the story that I needed to know). Thank you for this.

Thank you. I read the first two volumes when I was in my early 20's and they make a huge effect upon my life. I also recently read A Concise History of the Russian Revolution by Richard Pipes and throughly enjoyed the detailed yet easy-to-read and easy-to-understand this marvelous history of both the Russian Revolution of February 1917 and the Bolshevik coup of October 1917. May it be a lesson to the world.

@donnagolder7893

3 жыл бұрын

For us Roman Catholics, here is the reminder that Our Lady of Fatima appeared in October 1917 to say that Our Lord was deeply offended and that we must pray the holy rosary daily. For non-Catholics, this is a meditation on the life of Jesus, for our sakes, rather than for His. If we failed to immerse ourselves into the love and mercy of Christ, then Russia would scatter her errors throughout the world, and there would yet be another more horrible war to come with much suffering. One point here is that the individual soul is made in the Image and Likeness of God, and that the Collective is always against the soul and is instead based upon the great sin of Envy. Also until the fact that the Roman Catholic faith and Communism have been recognized as being diametrically opposed, even from the inception of Communism in 1917.

@emelyarye2641

3 жыл бұрын

Could you summarise what you learnt from the two volumes?

@digital-ocean

10 ай бұрын

Try reading 200 years together

Thank you John. This is very timely at the moment.

@mdogzino

3 жыл бұрын

Who's John?

@emelyarye2641

3 жыл бұрын

@@mdogzino lmao

this story makes you really appreciate your life

"Even under terrible circumstances, there were ways of being more or less noble."

Why doesn't Jordan ever talk about his other book Two Hundred Years Together??

@cyberblock7619

3 жыл бұрын

@Ahmaud Aubrey Good Boy Jogger And Home Inspector Why, what's it about?

@quantum1311

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyberblock7619 read it and you will see

@deeznutz8320

3 жыл бұрын

He has been asked a couple of times one is quite dodgy and dismissive, the other interview shows a Jewish guy actually giving him a copy of the book and asks to review it since even he didn't know about the history. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4CispKneq_SYKg.html Jordan denied to anwser

@RUMPLEforeskin25

3 жыл бұрын

Because it exposes the Jews

@CSUnger

3 жыл бұрын

@@deeznutz8320 I don't believe it has ever been translated into English.

I'm reading it to get me ready for what is coming soon here in the USA.

@patrickhassing120

2 жыл бұрын

I admit myself to be fearful of what might come these days, but I must say this - that if it is merely reading the horror of communism you seek in Solzhenitsyn’s work, you will miss the deeper points of his words - that even in suffering there is hope in life and that the beauty of existence is real and found through spiritual growth, and not materialism or ideology.

@SakuraTempura

2 жыл бұрын

It’s happened here already in the UK. We are no longer a free state. Covid has brought us under the shadow of authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but tragically and worst of all, it is supported by most of our people 😔

@nolickspittle4753

2 күн бұрын

It's here already!

Jordan Peterson is one of the most brilliant minds. His orations remind me of Joseph Campbell. Listening to Peterson speak is like reading profound literature.

Who the hell disliked this!? Modern commies?

@nikitag1376

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe people who learn soviet history, idk🤔

@summushieremiasclarkson4700

3 жыл бұрын

​@Ann Nifödova Yes, the Soviet regime was kind and benevolent. The Bolsheviks were native Russians who had no animosity towards the native populace, and despite me despising what Hitler did, I am a Nazi. Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong about what I think, that you know better what is in my mind than I do, you arrogant prick.

Which specific work is this referring to?

Jordan Peterson is such a style maven, love his fit. Love the way he commands the audience with his well crafted narrative

"sometimes you have to pay for what you did in a currency other than that which you took" Jordan Peterson, 21st century.

So what is the answer? How do you stand when you are weak and sensitive to pain, when people you love are still alive, when you are unprepared? What do you need to make you stronger than the interrogator and the whole trap? From the moment you go to prison, you must put your cozy past firmly behind you. At the very threshold, you must say to yourself, "My life is over. A little early, perhaps, but there is nothing to be done about it. I shall never return to freedom. I am condemned to die, -now, or a little later. But it will be harder later on, so the sooner the better. I no longer have any property whatsoever. For me, those I love have died. To them, I have died. From today on, my body is useless and alien to me. Only my spirit and my conscience remain precious to me." Confronted by such a prisoner, the interrogation will tremble. Only one who has renounced everything can win that victory. .... "There is nothing you can do to me even if you cut me to pieces. After all, you are afraid of your bosses, you are afraid of each other, you are even afraid of killing me. But I am not afraid of anything. I would be glad to be judged by God this minute." -A. I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, Vol.1, pp130,131

@michaelowens5394

3 жыл бұрын

It's not just "I'm willing to lose everything." It's "I have lost everything, except my soul."

Also worth reading “Shantung Compound” by Langdon Gilkey. Powerful and true story.

I have the Gulag Archipelago and One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich. Finished One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and now I'm moving on to Animal Farm by George Orwell.

200 years together.

@ejakobs9881

3 жыл бұрын

It's never been translated to english, it mentions the juice, and it probably would derail the subject completely by making people hyper-focused on that instead of tackling what the issues with the systems the bolsheviks used to destroy the country which can be abused by anyone. There's a reason the label referred to as the "hostile elite" was later applied to these actors. Not everyone involved wears a tiny hat, and as Aleksandr himself noted, not everyone wearing a tiny hat is involved with these agendas to dominate people. Klaus Schwab is basically the figurehead of Davos and I believe he's actually German. Don't get hung up on ethnicities and risk caricaturing yourself into exactly who they want other people to believe you to be.

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

@@ejakobs9881 You’re lying.

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

@@ejakobs9881 If so why hasn’t it been translated?

Making my way through the novel. Finding it tough going in terms of style and content. I am persevering as I can see it is an important book and also out of respect for those people who went through this and weren't heard. The descriptions of the prisons, interrogations and trials reveal people in the grip of ideology that became more important than honoring what it is to be human. Some people see it as an indictment of Communism but I think it is more about the human condition. It took me about 35 yrs to get around to reading this so not stopping now.

@chaostheory6143

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that Communism strips away what it is to be human and replaces it with mindless tools of government

This story was brought up in church.. Such a touching story.. 😢

"Even French Intellectuals". haha XD

Ok, now read 200 years together Jordan... KNOW THE TRUTH.

@akarminius

3 жыл бұрын

@Ann Nifödova bolshevik swine, all you commies need to be fed to the pigs.

@ejakobs9881

3 жыл бұрын

It's never been translated to english, it mentions the juice, and it probably would derail the subject completely by making people hyper-focused on that instead of tackling what the issues with the systems the bolsheviks used to destroy the country which can be abused by anyone. There's a reason the label referred to as the "hostile elite" was later applied to these actors. Not everyone involved wears a tiny hat, and as Aleksandr himself noted, not everyone wearing a tiny hat is involved with these agendas to dominate people. Klaus Schwab is basically the figurehead of Davos and I believe he's actually German. Don't get hung up on ethnicities and risk caricaturing yourself into exactly who they want other people to believe you to be.

@windmillrespector

Жыл бұрын

@@ejakobs9881 Yes it has.

Left wing activists who think everyone else is bad should read this book, they might learn to become more tolerant to those who don't share their views

@cpharris41

4 жыл бұрын

Very unlikely any of them would take the time to read a work as substantial as _The Gulag Archipelago_ - they'd be too busy with their Twitter feeds and going on Antifa protests etc.

@NiallM333

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree with yous more, they haven't a fucking clue.

@burgerbob7324

3 жыл бұрын

@Ann Nifödova This is exactly what Peterson talks about. Truthful speech is the only way. Ann, you are vicious and speak only lies. If you're trying to advocate for Communism you're doing a poor job. Look everyone, this is who wants Communism. Bitter, resentful, hate filled liars like Ann.

@bs431980

3 жыл бұрын

@Ann Nifödova bye commie go get in the bread line

Using a select handful prisoners as guards and administrators is a classic way to prevent them from banding together and revolting, just like the Roman Empire treated its colonies unfairly to prevent them from forming an alliance against Rome. Divide et impera.

“Sometimes you have to pay for things you did in a currency other than what you took”. Wow.

3:37 what a pretty lady!

Great observation Peterson: the Gulag archipelago destroyed socialism/communism state central planning. Hayek only theorized it. And Karl Marx contradicted himself: "Power is corrupting". Stalin centrally planned Russians to death, aided by his friend, massmurderer Yagoda.

What key factor is he leaving out? What wont he talk about?

Thank you, John, for posting this. I'm a big fan of you, Dave Rubin & Dr. Peterson. Have been following each of you 3 for 2+ years. Came across this clip 2-1/2 years after you posted it. What a treasure!!! Ars longa, vita brevis! (Art is long, life is short!)

@vhufeosqap

8 ай бұрын

I feel like Dave Rubin is a grifter

IT is what we are not doing. to go along is an easy road to comfortable tyranny. As I understand his one and only point is "SAY NOTHING< DO NOTHING, will give you what you deserve".

We have a gulag called Guantanamo Bay prison ….. Jordan Peterson never talks about that…

Run away from Gulag??? Which way you go Jordan???

Solzhenitsyn is great. I also would recommend Varlam Sharlamov, a similar perspective, references more of the Russian Inteligentsia.

Reading the gulag archipelago right now. It’s good but the Russian names and words slow the pace down considerably

Aleksandr also said that if the populace would have used violence at the start of the revolution against police, etc, there may not have been a revolution. Just like this corona communism. _"What would things have been like if every security operations man, when he set out at night to make arrests, was uncertain whether he would return alive, and would have to say his good-byes to his own family? Or, if during mass arrests, as for example Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not just sat there, growing pale at every bang of the downstairs doors and at every step and staircase, but a boldest set up ambushes in their entrances, consisting of several persons with axes, hammers, and pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The police organs very quickly would have suffered from a shortage of officers and transport, and notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt. If…if…"_

@daydreamer7143

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@jeremyashcraft2053

2 жыл бұрын

This is why, as an American, I am grateful for the foresight of our great forefathers who blessed us with the U.S. Constitution, and more specifically the 2nd Amendment: "The right to keep and bear arms _shall not be infringed."_ in 2019 and 2020 firearm sales broke records. People are not fools, they know what is happening, and they are not going to go down without a fight.

Couple years ago, Gulag Archipelago became mandatory to read in russian schools. Caused a lot of debates bc many people say that he is a liar.

@NiallM333

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say the people calling him a liar are old communists themselves wishing to go back to the old days.

@nikitag1376

3 жыл бұрын

@@NiallM333 i don't think anyone really thinks that if Russia will be communist again it will be similar to the Soviet Union. To be honest Solzhenitsyn is kinda a liar since he doesn't use any statistics to support his numbers and arguments, he also is not referring to any documents in Gulag Archipelago.

@NiallM333

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikitag1376 Probably not but there do seem to be a lot of them that romanticise about the old days and wish to go back to it. He's maybe not giving any sources but that doesn't mean that he's a liar.

@nikitag1376

3 жыл бұрын

@@NiallM333 lol, if he doesn't give any sources then his work can't be used as an argument and taking in consideration that he was extremely antisoviet he wasn't objective and honest in Gulag Archipelago

@NiallM333

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikitag1376 Fair enough sources for numbers and that, but that still doesn't mean he's a liar. I'd say you'd be anti-soviet too if you'd went what he went through. I don't think it's any secret that people who spoke out against the regime were persecuted. Or for basically anything.

Jordan Peterson is but balls, all talk. While Solzhenitsyn is a lifetime's experience, hard labor, ruthless gut and expression. Pathetic these discourse, decades later and from a cushioned privileged world of white men.

"The Jew cries out anti-semitism while he's stabbing you in the face."

@mahirahnaf7386

5 ай бұрын

Mein Kampf should be thoroughly researched not banned.

Guy single-handedly brought down the iron curtain exposing communism to the western world in the most raw material

I used to really admire this man. Wow, have times changed.

What a nice man, I wonder if he has read 200 Years Together, The Holodomor and the people behind of it... Maybe *he can do it...*

Fascinating. Peterson appears to have a high respect for Russian authors.

This sir so excited to explain the great lie of communism in the Book, Gulag Archipelago of solzilestyne But he forgets the chapter which speaks about the treachery of the Westerners who delivered Russians to the USSR and of course he spoke well about the unequaled perfidy of English policy is not it?

I think Jordan Peterson always encourages his audience to read about gulag camps in Russia. Because life was miserable in that situation, and we are way better than them. For me I have watched about the documentaries in gulag camps and also watched the horror which Migrants are going through from all parts Africa who want to go to Europe are stuck in Libya in camps. It reminded me of Alexander Solzhentysn sufferings. Guys please remember we are way better than them. Pray for them God to rescue and Thank God we are in pretty good conditions. In today's generation people who are working men have a very bad perspective on life. They like their life is freaking but in actual sense it's not. Because we have the power to chose whether we are going to play the victim role or master role. Circumstances cannot define our life and future.

Escape was impossible, there was nowhere to go within hundreds of miles. Totally false and ridiculous suggestion that prisoners stayed voluntarily.

@innocuous8356

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you are taking that too literally!

@garymitchell5899

4 жыл бұрын

His literal point was that the prisoners had a choice, and chose to stay. He implies this was due to a psychological weakness of some kind. No doubt there were many motivations in the camps, but to suggest that the prisoners had any realistic chance of escaping is both false and ridiculous. Therefore his consequent psychological point is also false. The utter despair broke even the strongest people.

@pixel8ated

4 жыл бұрын

@@garymitchell5899 He clearly states it didn't break everyone and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is an example.

@garymitchell5899

4 жыл бұрын

Of course, and I don't disagree with his points about that. But his first points about it somehow being a choice to stay are false and ridiculous, as I said.

@kennorthunder2428

4 жыл бұрын

@@garymitchell5899 Technically it's a choice to leave the prison system and voluntarily die in the wilderness. Simply an hard choice.

why is he shouting?

Was he actually there? We are all guilty from time to time of relating stories we have only read about as if they were our own personal experiences. I'd have more respect for this guy if he spoke about his own boring life.

peterson gonna ruin solzhenitsyn for me

Stalin. Hitler. I blame my ex wife.

Reading "A Day in the Life Of..." now. Communism is of itself as a philosophy was never bad, but as always, the human element makes it so

I'm not surprised that they agree on so much, considering if they were alive at the same time they'd probably pose the Jewish Question to one another.

Why won't Juden Peterste!n ever mention the infamous "Two Hundred Years Together"?

Alexander became a born again Christian, after the Lord used an unknown man to stop him from committing a suicide run to the fence one day in camp. It turns out, that our dear Alexander was liberated three days later, and he realized that Jesus kept him and rescued him. Never give up ❤

I think Jordan is lost on this topic.

By implementing such measures in such camps, Stalin was in direct contradiction to the doctrine or communism. the doctrine of communism (as put forward by Marx) is 'everyone works for the common good.' Stalin betrayed that ideal obviously. communism does not promote starvation, torture, or kidnapping. what took place in those years ought be called 'Stalinism.'

@joshuasusanto4258

3 жыл бұрын

Communism = the means of production being owned in a collective order. aka, if you have something that I deem valueble, since all means of production is collective; i will then have the right to take that from you for me and my cronies. nevermind the several years you worked to finally afford a house, there is someone who doesnt have a house, ill rampage your house for ''his sake.' Communism is a licience to steal from the rich, with no accountability if ever given to the poor, and no set boundries on whos rich to to be taken away. if there is one business owner among a hundred of workers, its easy to point whos the rich to be exploited, but keep that up, then then no one is a rich businuess owner. So what to do? lower the definition of rich. now its the those who have a house and the farmers(they have a lot of land). ........So what happen if they are all exploited? Lets target those who have something to eat today .... and what then, eventually we'll target the poorest among us. And what if someone rejects our communist ideal? for one person may have mercy, but to a mob drunk in greed and cruelity with the licience and moral highground to take away? i doubt. They will hunt down those people. Human nature is the problem with comunism. it is not compatible. If there is a alien without the moral depravity and evil within them like humans do have, perhaps communism may work for them. But for us whoa are human, let us not relive the past mistakes of our grand fathers. Do not put high expectection on a man weak moral. Everyone is evil if given the right circumstances. it is absoulutely critical your read the definition of something complex and play it out. what sounds like good intentions != good results. The economists and scholars who read the definitions and ideas proposed by marx saw his ideals in contempt, they didnt need to see the soviets and the gulags. they knew what was written and what it had implied hiddenly. because they have the fore thought. Marx wrote his theories in the comfort of capatalist london.

@morva4498

3 жыл бұрын

Some have to starve, torturer, kidnapped, or put in the gulags for the common good. When put like this it sounds like communism.

A know it all narcissist. Jordon Peterson.

@montiliusbeatty9831

3 жыл бұрын

@John Wallace without realizing you just did an ad hominem attack instead of sticking to the topic. Ask me why I think he is a narcissist Instead of attacking me as a person.

@montiliusbeatty9831

3 жыл бұрын

@John Wallace I'm aware of narcissism. The reason I say it is I see it. Not a sideways reason. Tell me the traits of a narcissist. You probably only know a dictionary definition.

@montiliusbeatty9831

3 жыл бұрын

@John Wallace Telling a person what they think and feel instead of asking. He says atheists are not really atheist. Says that would mean they are immoral. He cannot face he is wrong about anything. So two traits of a narcissist I pointed out.

@montiliusbeatty9831

3 жыл бұрын

@John Wallace Christians thinking they have the only valid religion or one true religion is a narcissist stance while being ignorant of other religions. They cannot face they might be wrong. Of 100 creation stories only theirs is true. Only my beliefs are valid is egocentric and narcissist. Jordon Peterson is ethnocentric and his opinions are not worldly. They don't include Asia. So he calls someone an atheist for nor believing in the abrahamic god while not seeing he does not believe in 99.9 percent of the gods in the encyclopedia of gods. 2500 of them. Hindu gods, ancient greek gods, roman gods, Mayan, Aztec, etc.

@montiliusbeatty9831

3 жыл бұрын

Using word salad is also a narcissist trait. Gaslighting another.

I'm russian and he is talking nonsense. I would say that he is completely ignorant in this field

@easygoing2479

3 жыл бұрын

Tell us how. Give specific quotes if you think we need to know.

@XX-xq2rx

3 жыл бұрын

He's talking about the book written by a literal Russian who lived it. Wtf are you talking about fool?

@faunt07

3 жыл бұрын

@@easygoing2479, even from the beginning. Caps were not running by the prisoners. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Here in Russia even the biggest anticommunists don't quote Solzh, coz he was compromised. In GULAG archipelago there is not a single word of true. And Solzh was a rat in prison. If you want to believe a traitor, rat and liar, your choice.

@anglo5744

3 жыл бұрын

@@faunt07 cope

@phraya_techapit9910

3 жыл бұрын

Shut the Блядь up. Do you want to live in a country where mass surveillance is everywhere like 1984??

Who set up this type of thing? what are they up to now?