This lady is like someone out of Star Wars.

@bradbear

Жыл бұрын

Or Hunger Games

@OsirusHandle

Жыл бұрын

is very nice

@tvathome562

Жыл бұрын

Like a Rose. Beauty surrounded by pricks XD

@CosmicGuiltTrip

Жыл бұрын

And Slovoj is a looney toon character

@user-zg8ny5tp4g

Жыл бұрын

She cutest scientist

Slavoj is so chaotic, I love it. Truly refreshing to have him in television.

@Specialforce848

11 ай бұрын

he is actually not, he is just jumping around a picture so big that its hard to grasp that its always the same one.

@tme98

11 ай бұрын

@@Specialforce848 It demands your attention, in comparison to other talkers!

@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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it's good to see Slavoj is in a good shape. God bless to both of them.

@eranjin

Жыл бұрын

if thats good shape then i cant begin to imagine the bad shape

@davidbolha

Жыл бұрын

Mentally he's beyond repair if he's hanging out with these Edomite scum. 😌😎

@gregorywilkinson5731

Жыл бұрын

@@eranjin lmaoo it's all relative but I know what u mean 😅 He's looked way worse is what she means

@cow_tools_

Жыл бұрын

@@gregorywilkinson5731 Yeah. His face is symmetrical again.

@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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It's difficult to follow Zizek thoughts but when you get it, wow!

@johnbanach3875

Жыл бұрын

It's also difficult to follow his speech.

@ibara8311

Жыл бұрын

@@johnbanach3875 couldnt agree more🤣

@frederickwalzer5555

Жыл бұрын

The explanation for that is that you have limitations in understanding philosophy.

@nobaso620

Жыл бұрын

@@frederickwalzer5555 dont be so quick to judge him negatively

@nobaso620

Жыл бұрын

@@johnbanach3875 i dont seem to fit well in a psychiatric disorder

Wow - how often have I‘ve looked at my shelf and wondered: What if Harari and Žižek had a talk? Can‘t wait to listen to this!

@TheDionysianFields

Жыл бұрын

Hope you weren't as disappointed as I was.

@BringYouDaPain

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDionysianFields well all I can say is: this won‘t be something I‘ll come back to so soon

@TheDionysianFields

Жыл бұрын

@@BringYouDaPain Glad to know I'm not the only one. I don't know what video everyone else here watched.

@Gingnose

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDionysianFields How anyone sane minded can disappointed by this

@TheDionysianFields

Жыл бұрын

@@Gingnose Because it's a disaster of bad ideas and wrongheadedness. Human beings have been at war with nature since day 1, and these guys are going to tell us that everything is nature/natural. Disgusting.

She was the perfect host for this. I don't think many hosts out there could have handled these two so well.

@ACuriousChild

Жыл бұрын

@Tyler Donaldson "... could have handled these two so well." Well, well, well... Not that I necessarily disagree with such a statement. BUT ... as a standalone statement it rather shows THE DEEP HOLE humanity has dug for itself. Why? If a conversation of outwardly reasonable adults needs a special gifted person to moderate a conversation HUMANITY IS IN DEEP SH*T. NOT CLAIMING THAT IT WAS EVER DIFFERENT BUT LOOKING AT THE WORLD FROM "AFAR" and seeing that "everyone", especially Mr. H & Ž, is claiming to be so reasonable, educated and even enlightened one has to REALLY QUESTION THE SANITY OF THE MAJORITY OF HUMANITY. If it wasn't for THE WISDOM OF PAST one would really have to question the point of it all. Which I am not doing BTW! IT MAKES ALL SENSE BUT ONLY FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE NOT DISCUSSED BY "THE PROUD HUMAN MINDS" USUALLY ON DISPLAY IN THE MEDIA.

@tylerdonaldson2804

Жыл бұрын

@@ACuriousChild couldn't agree more.. the once simple inconvenient truths of life are now fabled taboo; an absurd masquerade

@ACuriousChild

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerdonaldson2804 So true! Despite the horror-show all around THE TRUTH is always going to find a way no matter the "costs" and "time" it will take.

@dantechersi6056

Жыл бұрын

Slavuj from my country is just part of world agenda promote vacine big pharma mafia so far from socrat Buda and natural live real real far just fake false wrong percepcion both of them so abnormal black magic not for consume forget abut them and have clean mind trust nature trust natural medicine run from big pharma article like poison vacine and propaganda of transhumanisam wich is ame like satanisam

@1Manda1

Жыл бұрын

She was good, but a psycho with those facial expressions.

I conclude: you always have to take the middle ground, but not always because that would be extreme.

@Livender

Жыл бұрын

:D spot on :D

@Eduardsants

Жыл бұрын

You can't have both either

@IbadKhane

20 күн бұрын

The golden mean

I’m so glad they have these conversations. I tried reading Zizek and that’s a whole different deal.

@khana.713

Жыл бұрын

Skill issue

@eoin8450

11 ай бұрын

Ah yes, I spent quite a while meticulously reading and trying to understand his first book in english, the sublime object of ideology. I'd say stick with it though, it's quite rewarding

@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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@nexusyang4832

10 ай бұрын

@@khana.713 lol! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@gerardotejada2531

8 ай бұрын

Zizek asumes the reader has a Phd in philosophy when writing. To fully understand him you should have a basic understand of continental philosophy and psychoanalisis. Its not a good way of writing, Its better to see his talks about philosophy.

What Žižek was saying at around minute 29 totally agrees with the many ideas that math of non-linear and chaotic systems tells us, what we expect from a point on a new balance big unbalance can occur

Very well put at the end by Slavoj Zizek. There will be a few people who control most of the people. And this all in the name of good intentions. Here we go again...

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

And both want to "guide" this process. What a coincidence.

"Anything that is possible is by definition also natural" - Very interesting statement from Harari!

@abmas1901

Жыл бұрын

True. Really helps u rise above the “suffering” :)

@multi-mason

Жыл бұрын

@@abmas1901 it’s elementary. It’s also merely semantics. Of course I agree, that everything is nature including us and our works. On the other hand though, that is only true V according to one definition of nature, and when we present this topper of semantics argument, it is actually infantile to not acknowledge the simple fact that words have multiple definitions and that this agreement Olly hold true by definition, and we are referring to a word with multiple definitions. This whole “debate” is on its face intellectually bankrupt. I respect both of the participants, but this is not as debate, it’s presented in a highly misleading format, and there is clearly an agenda behind it, but that agenda is not opaque, despite its obviousness. Ultimately this all boils down to a complete loss of credibility. False dichotomies are bad enough, but here the false dichotomy is so shabbily contrived that it is embarrassing at best, and disturbingly tragic at worst.

@christianancheta7230

Жыл бұрын

@@multi-mason well said

@alekdemj

Жыл бұрын

I totally disagree with this phrase. Killing people, stealing, raping children, hitting women, robering etc. - all this stuff is possible, however this have bad consequances for society and thus not natural for normal society rules.

@AheadOfTheCurveVideos

Жыл бұрын

@@alekdemj War, a subset of your list, is the most natural behaviour of man.

Slavoj and the favorite child of the DEVlL. Knowingly or unknowingly Slavoj has stepped and is walking on the dark side.

@npc-lowlife6940

Жыл бұрын

bruh wtf bro

@davidbolha

Жыл бұрын

Mhm. He should have done his research before accepting the invite. Shows too he is amoral & a globalist tool. 😌

Slavoj is a rockstar! Hoping to see him in a long conversation with Lex Fridman someday.

@k4czy12

Жыл бұрын

Lex Afraid Fridman

@thedodo1

Жыл бұрын

@@k4czy12 Less Afraid Fridman

@prkp7248

Жыл бұрын

I would love to see him in Joe Rogan Experience, that would be crazy.

@thedodo1

Жыл бұрын

@@prkp7248 same thing man! Plus slavoj has a ton of funny anecdotes and quotes, hopefully he will be at least in one of them. I am betting Lex will be first!

@knzeverin

Жыл бұрын

@@k4czy12 Why the middle name, what is he "Afraid" of and why is it worth drawing attention to?

Yuval and Zizek were of course great, but also kudos to the moderator, she did great. Excellent job to everyone involved in this conversation. Greetings from Monterrey, México.

I love how no one talks about Captialism/monetary market system as the problem for what we witness today.

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

Who pays for those "fancy" talks?

@8keivideo877

Жыл бұрын

@@MiauZi69 I have no idea.

@remotefaith

Жыл бұрын

Trivial in comparison to the problem of being alive in the first place

Yuval’s is an approachable brilliance; Slavoj is a genius.

@davidbolha

Жыл бұрын

Romans 1:22 😌

@dorianphilotheates3769

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbolha - Yes, nice bit of Pauline rhetoric, that.

Thank you for sharing, always gets me thinking and revisiting my ideas 🙏

@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

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I'm in love with the anchor/moderator!! She's fab! doesn't interrupt, let those speak, and interrupts meaningfully and had poise!!❤️❤️

@anav5010

Жыл бұрын

Is so strange that I thought the opposite lol 😅

@mohameddellero

Жыл бұрын

@@anav5010 yeah, she was pretty bad, interrupted at the wrong times

@ashutoshdhote6091

Жыл бұрын

She is female Sheldon Cooper

@anav5010

Жыл бұрын

@@mohameddellero and also in my opinion a little bit biased on only asking and interacting with zizek 🤔

@majdavojnikovic

Жыл бұрын

@@anav5010 he was in front of her, the other guy on the screen behind her.

after watching this in one sit, i think i'm ready to declare myself as genious

The distinction between descriptive and prescriptive laws is a fundamental one, made well here. Suffering and concocted moral dilemmas are also nicely exposed for their potential weaknesses in moral reflection. Imagination and problem-solving through discourse remain important even after this particular conversation is appreciated.

@gratefulkm

Жыл бұрын

Do you know that the PFC remembers sounds, The PFC constantly plays sounds in your mind You can make it stop, create a kind of silence, but the noise always comes back You can't stop the PFC from making noise inside your mind What's really interesting is that when you look at a physical tree The PFC can remember two possibilities', one is the sound of language, naming it a tree and the worded definition of the tree Or your PFC can remember how the tree sounds - no language To clarify, the noise in your mind will no longer be words, it will be the sounds that tress make, that you have experienced, snapping twigs, rustling leaves, breaking bark, trunks breaking and falling All words are gone and can be forever if you remember sound this way instead of remembering the noise of language Now which one is more real, The language or the actual noise a tree makes?

@larryfike1858

Жыл бұрын

@@gratefulkm I don’t see a need necessarily to regard one as more real than the other (‘tree’ versus tree-noise). Both are real; both are. Aesthetically you might prefer the tree-sound, but both are real, and what operation (if any) and/or goals you have in mind in conjuring up a representation of either (because that’s all it would be in any case) could render one sort of representation more desirable than the other. If I wanted calm and nothing more, I might think of the tree-sound. If I was in the middle of constructing an argument that had trees as its subject, it might be useful to conjure up the word.

@gratefulkm

Жыл бұрын

@@larryfike1858 Nice that you can describe your understanding of it verbally My challenge is for you to experience it :) Balance, instead of worshipping one form over another, Experience both, Deconstruct the construction You feel before you think I can't stress how important it is to walk with both feet, breathe with both lungs, clap with two hands, look with 2 eyes, smell with two nostrils and experience with both upper and lower brains To not pretend the Lower brain does not have equal worth instead of worshipping your left Testical, shall we say I just wanted to make sure you have been taught this You seem hyper focused on thought, "Wrong end of the stick" "can't see past the end of your nose" "Letting your imagination run away with itself" You know you have people and have regular Oxytocin release

@larryfike1858

Жыл бұрын

@@gratefulkm I’m just speaking/writing in a philosophical vein here; I actually meditate for an hour a day and believe I understand what you are saying. As an *experience*, I can even watch/hear/taste, etc., the flow of thoughts (including sounds of all sorts) passing through consciousness, without identifying them with “me,” and thus accept the continuousness of thought (not necessarily propositional in nature, and not involving a run-on argument) as something occurring but which is not consciousness itself. Liberating, if anything is.

@gratefulkm

Жыл бұрын

@@larryfike1858 Amygdala

Everything in moderation; argue from the center, Hegelian. Thank you Professor Yuval Harari and Slavoj Zizek for an Amazing thought provoking conversation.

@ChandrakinAgashe

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I am assuming by moderation here you mean the ideal point of balance, which is different for each thing or idea (like a policy) and always changing relevant to places, people and times. Perhaps keeping up with that shifting point is really the grand challenge of all life in a way.. applies on purely biological level but also otherwise

@carlscott5447

Жыл бұрын

If you think these two sophists represent anything about moderation in our time, you've been massively duped. Read Chantal Delsol instead, or read Solzhenitsyn's November 1916, esp. p. 59.

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

That has nothing to do with Hegel.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

There's a biiiig problem right from the outset here-we're driving an entirely ariticial distinction between people and nature. We are natural phenomena, the things we do are natural by definition. When we talk about good and bad, we are talking about good and bad in relation to a moral agent-someone who either does good or bad things, or observes them. As philosophical naturalists, to the extent good and bad even exist, they only exist in and because of human minds. Nature is not good or bad, except insofar as we are beings with moral intuitions, and we interpret natural phenomena in a moral way. We are part of nature, and we give it a morality. That interpretation can be guided by an interpretation of the directionality of nature-what is it doing through the course of natural evolution? Yes, it's true, bad things happen in nature. But whereas climates are prone to wild fluctuations, ecosystems tend to regulate and normalize them, creating shade, slowing water cycles, fixing landscapes in root networks, preserving nutrients by moving them upstream, and a myriad of other functions. The consequences of these tendencies are increased genetic diversity, a calmer and more livable climate, and, as our evolution demonstrates, a support structure for organisms with greater and greater levels of subjectivity and sophistication. When "bad" things happen in nature, they invariably happen in an attempt to move toward this state of affairs in the context of deprivation. These things are not good or bad in and of themselves-they're good or bad in our interpretation of them. But our interpretation of them is really just nature evaluating nature.

@karigrandii

Жыл бұрын

As humans we have the foresight and choice to do something before ”nature” corrects our route toward an equilibrium. We know what we are doing, we know we can do something, still nothing is beign done (because of the economic system we are in hold all the power)

@yaylah7314

Жыл бұрын

TLDR; If we throw a nuclear bomb over a site and we destroy it, nature itself won’t give a damn about it because what happens is just a passage from a natural state A to natural state B

@chantaledm

Жыл бұрын

That comment is non-sensical. Think about it.

@r.g.j.leclaire8963

Жыл бұрын

While at one level I agree, isn't it also interesting that 1) when we closely observe ourselves and our thinking process, we find that thoughts just arise (many spiritual traditions have pointed this out) and there is no one/homunculus behind the thoughts making or doing them. They arrive and we experience them, really just in the same way we experience feelings or anything else. This is relevant to me because it says something, imo, about this 'agent' idea. 2) If we are not in fact separate from nature, and we might even question this notion of a deliberate agent, then is it not true that nature is in fact the one with the moral attitude? (so to speak). Nature has physical laws, nature has reproduction, nature has natural selection, and seemingly too, nature has morals -- in the form of the human being. We are an evolutionary step of nature, in that sense.

@adamhill4169

Жыл бұрын

@@r.g.j.leclaire8963 I think I agree with everything here. That's the idea-humans are a step in a developmental process nature is undergoing, and ethics are an emergent property from that. This isn't actually anything new-this is more or less how Aristotle thought about it.

Thank you for the session.

We may need to realize our true nature to genuinely know what Nature is

Love you both! Well done!

Life goes on - and so on, and so on ❤️

@pacosamo

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Alter the conditions too much and you could with a lifeless planet.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Simply fascinating! You learn so much with these debates.... very good!

“...Nature, red in tooth and claw...” - Great exchange with S.J., Professor Harari. Greetings from Greece!

Only Yuri to presume that we are not nature. He may be an alien or a robot, but I trust myself as much as I trust nature.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Balance will be the focus of all extremes. Balance of humans and nature is the question. Balance of putting others down, helping others, and helping ourselves...when we give this Balance to help those on the fringe of our life circles...we will be doing good.

@HuerniaBarbata

Жыл бұрын

Yes. But resources are limited. As long as you have a surplus, you can spend it to feel like benefactors, kind and good humanists. But when the surplus runs out, it's time to choose who will get what is now missing for everyone. Usually, as a result, the stronger, more arrogant, cunning gets resources. The rest will fight for crumbs and die. Economic crisis, energy crisis, natural or man-made disaster, war - it's a time of choice.

@guru_stu

Жыл бұрын

Resources are limited how?

@HuerniaBarbata

Жыл бұрын

@@guru_stu Do you know what the economic crisis, unemployment, inflation is? Do you have an unlimited amount of gas, electricity for everyone and there is no price increase for them? Crop failure? Have you ever been hungry like the people of Bangladesh and Africa, where thousands die of hunger in some years? Have you not lived on a cup of rice a day like the people of Vietnam? Do you know about the population decline in Detroit and other industrial cities of the "Rust Belt" of the USA? Do you know about the extinction of small villages around the world in rich countries - from Japan and Korea to Europe and the USA? Do you know about the decline in the birth rate in all developed countries? All this is a problem of countries' resources (human, economic, natural, industrial, financial, technological). Not all countries live happily, most countries on Earth do not have enough resources for a happy life.

Zizek somehow manages to evoke both depression and anxiety in me simultaneously. And I have no idea what point is he making around 90% of the time.

@limenode

Жыл бұрын

Spot-on way to describe the Žižek experience, yet I keep coming back for more (and so on)...

It’s good to observe and understand the natural functioning of things in the world around us so we can better play ourselves. Nature is everything real. The world isn’t merely your idea of it or what you wish it was. Studying the nature of things is an exercise in humility that ultimately brings us up. We don’t see clearly enough because we’re too comfortable taking secondhand information. We agree with the people we like and it eventually distorts our outlook. Naturalism is a good influence on any culture.

@GamersAreAtFault

Жыл бұрын

Think deeply, what are our real interests as humans regarding the outside, nature, universe and so on, and second question who is "our"

@TaxidermiedMessiah

Жыл бұрын

Play ourselves?

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

@stoptehsteel3476

Жыл бұрын

but nature IS filtered through our subjective ideological lens, that's what slavoj is getting at

@lamrabetz

Жыл бұрын

Yuval's approach is to justify what so called state of israel is doing in palestine, the suffering? It's bad for some and good for others.

This debate needs subtitles in all languages possible. The contents are amazing!

@sea2959

Жыл бұрын

amazing bullshit

@residentfelon

Жыл бұрын

dont worry, if you are honest with yourself, they all say a bunch of nothing really

@janpahl6015

Жыл бұрын

Why this buffoon and all his mumble jumbo attracts so many "intellectuals"? Yes the "content" is "amazing" the person talking about it its the problem, and every one idolizing that lacanian marxist psedo academy

@dragonartstudios

Жыл бұрын

@@residentfelon Let others find the truths by themselves, so that differently to this 2, at least you are honest and give respect to others. Or is it that you just can see what others cant give but no what you can?

@ilianamarisolromero7816

Жыл бұрын

@@sea2959 we all know deep down, life is absurd according to Camus

We don’t understand nature, we don’t understand ourselves, amen 🙏

@slofty

Жыл бұрын

About as useful as pointing out “the sky is blue!”

@donrayjay

Жыл бұрын

@@slofty I think many people (myself included) can delude themselves that they understand why things happen the way they do and make assumptions on that basis about the future when, in fact, we understand far less about the causes of events and best responses. Realising this may enable us to be more cautious, tentative, and open to making changes as situations emerges unpredictably

I love Zizeks way,he is human, also in addition he´s amazing thinker !!! Harari represents to me Inhumanity. He considers himself as the great Savior of humanity by enslaving people.....

Humanity is nature,nature is humanity.

Aside from the two greats, I loved the debate moderator. She was very informative and actively engaged the audience.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

@bretislav9247

6 ай бұрын

I like the way she roasts Žižek in the beginning

El encuentro más esperado por toda Latinoamérica unida 🥹

@ricardodiaz3936

Жыл бұрын

Solo si toda latinoamerica es tú y otros cuantos desvelados 🤭🤭

I find it endearing that Slavoj still has a really strong accent even after 40 years of working in the USA and Europe

@otto_jk

Жыл бұрын

Slovenia is in Europe... Also he has also done a lot of work in French and German

@bredweren

11 ай бұрын

Also, english is not "The" European language

"Nature doesn't care about us in particular..." Mastermind-level opening right there.

@lahoya32

Жыл бұрын

I'm very impressed. ...

I can see Yuval's moderation point of view and his call for rejecting the binary frame as being influenced by Buddha's middle way teaching that transcends extremisms (good vs bad). As per human nature, we always want more of a good thing. Extremism is when too much of a good thing is a bad thing. The second influence of Buddhism was Yuval's point rejecting good vs bad as ethical criteria and his definition of unethical actions being those that cause suffering.

@Nothing-yo5uo

Жыл бұрын

Its not.There can be similarity between thoughts of two different persons.

@kenhtinhthuc

Жыл бұрын

@@Nothing-yo5uo "On a drive with Yahav and Harari from their home to Jerusalem, I asked if it was fair to think of “Sapiens” as an attempt to transmit Buddhist principles, not just through its references to meditation-and to the possibility of finding serenity in self-knowledge-but through its narrative shape. The story of “Sapiens” echoes the Buddha’s “basic realities”: constant change; no enduring essence; the inevitability of suffering. “Yes, to some extent,” Harari said. “It’s definitely not a conscious project. It’s not ‘O.K.! Now I believe in these three principles, and now I need to convince the world, but I can’t state it directly, because this would be a missionary thing.’ ” Rather, he said, the experience of meditation “imbues your entire thinking.” www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/02/17/yuval-noah-harari-gives-the-really-big-picture

@jerrybender6633

Жыл бұрын

Very tru sadly we only no its a bad thing when its way to late to stop it.

@somedudeok1451

Жыл бұрын

But we don't even know where extremism lies, because we view the world through our subjective lens. What Americans consider far left, is centrist at best in Europe. And no - moderation is not always the answer. It was good that world banded together to bomb, decimate and afterwards hang the Nazis. Unimaginable suffering was prevented because Hitler's Regime was stopped by brute force. Extreme action was necessary to stop extreme suffering. Moderation is not safe. Moderation might not even exist.

@jerrybender6633

Жыл бұрын

@@somedudeok1451 If u dont no where extremism lies then why do u say that Hitlers actions were extreme and that we needed to all band together to take extreme action to avoid extreme suffering?

I respect the intellect of both of these adult males. This whole exhibition was a dance around the evils perpetrated by the forces that Yuval is a part of. It was an expert dance.

@Interwurlitzer

Жыл бұрын

nobody expected the spanish inquisition, mate. thanks for poppin' by!

@robokugel3383

Жыл бұрын

what evil-doing forces is yuval a part of? honest question.

@mftmss7086

Жыл бұрын

@@robokugel3383 he runs a drug cartel

@nomeencuentro6033

Жыл бұрын

@@robokugel3383 he is the top advisor of klaus schwabs creator and president of the world economic forum

@fineweather4569

Жыл бұрын

He’s no friend of humanity put it that way. He states that we have no soul or free will and that humans can be re-engineered with the power to become god. Reminds me of another period in history…

Balance, modesty, moderation … nature of nature versus nature of humanity …. Reminds me Of a song heard during my youth Never ending story~~~~~😇

Fantastic! I'm a fan of both of yours so it's great to listen to the two of you talk.

I liked the initial part by Harari on nature's way and human way - or I call, two universes, in which mind universe has limitation. Next, his discussion on the middle way ~20min. Then, him on silo syndrome - or local optimization vs more global one - around 36min. (that is like egocentric idea as oppose to to get to wisdom) Toward the end, again Harari, related to complexity theory - or Kegon/Avatamsaka sutra.

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

?????

The world is a stage and everyone is playing their part

@Thomas...191

Жыл бұрын

..and we all are merely players

@fafolaw

Жыл бұрын

..performers and portrayers

@TheDionysianFields

Жыл бұрын

..each another's audience

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable) 👉 The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

@Orion225

Жыл бұрын

Plus we can't be sure whether there's a stage or not according to quantum physics.

Zizek is the vastly greater thinker. People enjoy him but find it hard to pin him down, but that is his method. He does not want to give us truth in the classical sense but rather cause a kind of psychoanalysis were we get strategies for thinking about ourselves and our world. He is more concerned with methods than facts.

Dear yuval I think we are like a variable in an equation . Before we get sapiens nature was full of constants and results were stables but now it's going difficultly predictible. Even feelings are politics of nature I don't like beeing a slave payed by good feelings or punished by bads. Intelligence without feelings seems to me liberty. With good feelings 💖

I absolutely love this so far. What a wonderful philosophical exchange!

Mind blowing. So damn good

@briandavis849

Жыл бұрын

not at all

"be weary of those who preach too much good" amazing, sums up the current left alright

Trust is for obedient minds. Return kindness for kindness, and, return kindness for evil. Do not do to others what you don't want done to yourself.

The allocation of "good" and "bad" is purely human. And usually aimed at humans; we don't walk through a forest and judge the trees, but most of us walk through a crowd and make snap judgments about every person we become aware of.

@93alvbjo

Жыл бұрын

Sure. But does that make them relative? Cities don't exist without people, but does that mean it is completely arbitrary whether it is good to live in one?

@catbunny8713

Жыл бұрын

but we do walk through forests and judge the trees. a forest can feel safe/scary/intimidating/beautiful. everything we do and know is a reflected self reference

@babybabybabybaby12

Жыл бұрын

When I steal your life... is it a good or a bad thing? If I manipulate you to do "bad" things... is it good or bad? Of course it is purely human because humans are having a dark and a light side. It's called dualism. If you transcend the dark side you're enlightend.

@reprogrammingmind

Жыл бұрын

how do lions choose who gets eaten? Aren't some meals better than others? Nature has no preferences?

@catbunny8713

Жыл бұрын

@@reprogrammingmind i believe preference is natural/part of nature but only arises in certain conditions - like yes the lion may prefer one meat to the other but ultimately they’ll eat what’s available

YUVAL NOAH HARARI, TODOS TU ESCRITOS , Y TODOS TUS LIBROS ME SUMERGIERON EN " LA REVOLUCIÓN DE LA IGNORANCIA".

The moderator did a great job, totally up to the challenge. Yuval and Zizek smart, provoking, and funny as usual.

Thank you Gunes. Thanks Yuval and Slavoj. Very interesting ideas.

@dorianphilotheates3769

Жыл бұрын

Όντως, ενδιαφέρουσα συζήτηση.

I wonder if we will always have this problem-that our knowledge of the consequences of using some technology is lacking and causes us some worrying existential disaster in the near future after invention of said technology. You'd have to have a very particular and deliberate culture to ensure that just the reverse happens.

The joke from Žižek at the end is my favorite! Greetings from Ukraine :)

That was fascinating. Quite a shame it was so short 🙂

This is a great match because both these guys have made me think in a way that I've never considered before and really opened my eyes. Really original thinkers. I also love Zizek for bringing to North American audiences academic terms that never survive the marketing filters of North American media: "deep ecologists." Bahaha

@gotmilk9060

11 ай бұрын

a little bit of poison in something delicious is easy to swallow but the end there of is death. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3lp1rGilJerYZM.html&pp=ygUOY2xhc2ggb2YgbWluZHM%3D kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpqklJt6lqbbfag.html

Zizek acrescenta bom humor a seu vasto conhecimento acadêmico. Gosto disso.

I’ve been waiting for these two to meet. A thoughtful exchange between rigorous intellectuals

@Sirflyingmustache

Жыл бұрын

Same here! In my opinion, those two are the smartest people alive today. Leaving them in charge of management would do wonders!

@danzwku

Жыл бұрын

we meet again lol

@zaynumar0

Жыл бұрын

Everyone is an "intellectual"

@burakeyi

Жыл бұрын

As a 3rd one, Jordan Peterson would be fun. More knives maybe pulled 😏

@Sirflyingmustache

Жыл бұрын

@@burakeyi Peterson already embarrassed himself against Zizek.

That was a great talk, thanks for sharing this

Beautiful reflexion

Thank you both Slavoj and Yuval, and of course your host, great discussion.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Nature is a wonderful instructor but there are a very few who realizes when we get in touch with nature we discover ourselves

@michaelstacey5298

Жыл бұрын

Great comment. We are it and it is us.

@vicvic2081

Жыл бұрын

Exactly are you William from Westworld?

@CCDR07

Жыл бұрын

Yes, excellent point. I think that is the one lesson that Indigenous people from around the world have been trying to get across to mainstream society for yonks to little avail. The most troubling thing in my mind is that now over half the world's population lives in cities, and therefore difficult to access "nature", though I think there's also a lot of potential for inviting nature back into urban areas.

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

I tend to agree, in opposite to Zizek and Harari. Nature has no worth for them. Harari only preaches caution insofar as we can not control everything. If we could, he would "change" most of it. Zizek the hedonist too.

@inajosmood

Жыл бұрын

I think our mind is the middle man in how we see ourselves as a part of nature (or not) and I think that is what they say. We are nature and at the same time our mind learns how to interpret nature and it's workings often as separate systems. That is our big pro and big con as a species and depending on many things, but mainly our culture and history we will learn to relate to nature differently. Yes it can be an instructor, but only when we have learned how to learn from nature. Look at many animals, they need guidance for a while when they are born. To help find food, hunt, use basic tools, how the seasons move and what that means for their environment. So it's not an instructor by itself. It is nature doing nature. Like we are also in a way. Just depends on how you zoom your lens in our out.. Leave a baby alone and it will die. Leave an older child alone with no previous knowledge and experience about how to live with and/or from nature and it will probably also die.

Nos merecemos este debate subtitulado 😭

@LeonardoGuilherme92

11 ай бұрын

No estás perdiendo nada.

excellent interviewer btw, I like that she keeps up with them, which must be super hard cause Zizek really is all over the place all the time.

@farrider3339

Жыл бұрын

Yes , she had an extreeeemly good question which certainly wasn't answered by our beloved alpha males : "Is moderation build into nature ?" (The way I read it : this sustainability idea) Or as dad always said : when you eat your whole 🍫 at once, tonite you'll be crying over it ;)

I love how zizek keeps coming back to the class angle in all of this and even ends on this joke about class

Next to yuval, slavoj appeared so unhinged x) Love them both, and the moderator really did a great job ! It was so refreshing compared to typical, boring academic moderation Hope more debates like this one are coming our way ❤️

@lysergidedaydream5970

Жыл бұрын

Slavojs insanity scratches my brain though Hearing somebody say 'ethics is really only about suffering' is like listening to music produced for the mainstream, that speaks to the cultural moment with the aim to win it over, while therefore consciously and unconsciously comprimising to culture Listening to zizek is like listeneng to Clowncore's album 'van'. Obscene and harsh and incomprehensible and for all of those reasons its alluringly beautiful

Halfway through, fascinating conversation, especially ideas from Zizek!

Fantastic mediation. More please

The truth is that some religions focus on the essential: family, society, self understanding in the larger context of Gd and good intentions, interest in the world around you and working to keep you alive and active. This is all we need

@1Manda1

Жыл бұрын

The religion comes as a package, you don't choose as you want. The way I view it is that the danger of religion lies in the holy aspect of it's laws, when the laws are no longer valid due to time and many changes they hinder the growth of societies due to the belief of the source of those laws being god, which is a thing bigger than nature and human combined.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Perfect way to transfer knowledge and jokes ..yuvals idea of moderation and that stalin genius solution🤣 I will keep both by heart

@overseaoversea6602

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand the how an electric system is made and works, lets just put your fingers in the socket to find out. That what he said. it's insane and very dangerous mentality.

@derrickgriffines9050

Жыл бұрын

To what you know its crazy and dangerous but to what one knows it's just the only thing we gat ..in other words electricity in socket is "curiousity" that's why people and animals die when testing vaccines to save others .. hope I kept to track

@allaboutdetox7526

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickgriffines9050 No one has to die to save others, no amount of scarifying children and adults can save irresponsible people. This is false heroism. Vaccine didn't save anyone ever, The cause of most health problem is approved toxic food, overdose of chemicals, including vaccines and medical drugs, mental stress, psychological terror, bad working and living conditions. You can inject unto yourself anything you wish but leave others alone. Some of us prefer sane approach, effective and true. Sorry to leave your drug business empty. "We are slowly but surely destroying health and intelligence of our future generations with vaccination" ... Dr Gerhard Buchwald, Germany Cancer was practically unknown until cowpox vaccination began to be introduced (in 1853) I have had to do with at least 200 cases of cancer, and I never saw a chance in an unvaccinated person. Dr. W.B. Clarke, Indianpolice, New York Press January 26, 1909

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

@meganisaac5702

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickgriffines9050 The permissive value system that would have us 'admire' an intellectual debate like this is like admiring the wallpaper in Goebel's home office. It's important to realize the peril we are in when people have become accepting of eugenics, population 'control' and other totalitarian nightmares when these are dressed up as 'thought experiments' by 'branded' intellectuals promoted in the paid media mainstream .

I love they way she laughts❤️🙂

amazing as always

Is there an uncut version? It's years since I wandered how Yuval would react to Žižeks idea of nirvana murderer (1) and morality causing horrible acts (2). The (2) is answered here 20:05

@anav5010

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll love to watch and hear an uncut version, there is meaning in silence and laughs that I really don’t want to miss

@m.richman3486

Жыл бұрын

It's butchered in many places I think. If anyone have managed to find the full one plz share.

@user-vr8qd4hk6y

Жыл бұрын

I would also love to see full version... Kinda weird there is no explanation that this is not full, how much was cut, not good

ok, hilarious that these two set up a discussion / my brain is so satisfiedd

@mikefozzer6415

Жыл бұрын

Mine is not so Yuval Noah Hararia - I have a question for you, cos you are clearly a gay man, so if you and your bf were the first people on the Earth, how would you reproduce ? How long would it take for 2 first man to do so?..someone educate me pls perhaps on this natural process?

When we get closer to fully accept our chaos, irrational world of emotions specifically, we will have as little deviations as possible (minimum conditioning) in constructing respresentation of truth within us (synced nervous system / integrated psyche ). This will bring us closer to nature and inevitably we will more responsible

thank you 🤝

I am Russian, 51y.o. and I want a debate with these two.

i love Zizek. hes so insightful

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Help, ive fallen in love with the moderator

Respect the nature and nature will respect you

Parasites are part of nature, and many have the most amazing and mind-boggling life cycles. Humans tend to divide the world into good and bad and they can think that parasites are bad, however, they are part of the ecosystem, they have evolved as part of the biodiversity.

@StaP876

Жыл бұрын

Interesting point of view. Technically parasites are organisms living in a specific environment, giving some good and bad, depends how well both organisms adapt, they start to live in symbiosis. It is also parasites task, not to kill the host, unless being suicidal. "complete genome sequences of cyanobacteria and of the higher plant Arabidopsis thaliana leave no doubt that the plant chloroplast originated, through endosymbiosis, from a cyanobacterium."

@bardofely

Жыл бұрын

@@StaP876 I first discovered parasites as a child who kept caterpillars. Sometimes I wasn't rewarded with a beautiful butterfly or moth but with a spindly ichneumon wasp. I concluded they had as much right to be here so I used to release them. They may not appeal to human ideas of beauty and what is 'good' but parasites have incredible life-cycles. Here is the late Miriam Rothschild talking about a parasite of frogs that she regarded as one of her Seven Wonders of the World in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/moaNxbOmiZjHhNY.html

@chyfields

Жыл бұрын

We are gods of ourselves and it is our nature to try to eradicate un-beneficial creatures within us.

@nycgweed

Жыл бұрын

I know quit a few parasites

@infullbloom3246

Жыл бұрын

Cancer is/are parasites such as worms, syphilis and candida.

Günes Taylor did a fantastic job as the interviewer! Thanks for the fascinating conversation 😁

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

Oustanding style of Yuval N Harari is once again on the fore. Such a clarity in thoughts makes his audience enriched and enabled after the session. Thank You Y N Harari.

It boils down to our awareness of death, so we try to avoid nature's law of succession and renewal of life. The problem is to privilege our life before transmitting it. We owe our life both to those who transmitted it and to those who died of disease and increased our immunity!

One more thing, Mr Z: "Buddhism" seems to have supplied you with off the cuff anecdotes/solutions. However, an investigation of the buddha dhamma may actually bring you onto the more properly philosophical terrain of problems

Yuval, you said the question should not be whether something is natural or not, because all is nature; but rather that the question should be: does it cause suffering? I agree that suffering is the most important factor to be taken into consideration in this reality, especially the imposition of suffering on others who cannot consent to it when there is no need to impose the suffering or risk of suffering on them in the first place.... Given your outlook re. suffering, would you please care to elaborate on your views re. Antinatalism i.e. the view that it is always morally wrong to create life primarily because of the suffering such an imposition would cause for the person born. Thank you.

@mountaindew371

Жыл бұрын

I was pleasantly surprised to see you commented on this

@pacosamo

Жыл бұрын

Great question. I also wondet about it. Is it true that not being born is a better option even under the nest circimstances? Sounds too simplistic of an argument.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

Жыл бұрын

Watch on youtube to learn the truth (and share if you find it valuable): The Connections (2021) [Short documentary] 🔥

@tme98

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be morally wrong to create life. In order for a person to consent it needs consciousness, and that is assuming the person has free-will (which we already don't) so creating life would neither be moral or immoral.

Love it

I sincerely do not care about what Yuval thinks. More Slavoj.

I think these two people don't want to infer that, if "Nature" exists, there must be a Creator, and only a Creator knows what is the right use or the wrong use of his creation. They debate as if they themselves were able to decide what is good or bad, whereas they are simply part of "Nature", in other words of "Creation".

@fidelangel4737

Жыл бұрын

You pressupose his existence, but there isn't evidence of it. It is not theology.

@pimagema2620

Жыл бұрын

​ @Fidel Angel According to the scientific principle of causality, any observed phenomenon has a primary cause at its origin. The primordial observed phenomenon is the phenomenon "existence of the Universe". This phenomenon is primordial because without it, no other phenomenon would exist. Therefore, the existence of the Universe necessarily implies the existence of a primary cause at its origin.

@MrJonhyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@pimagema2620 Spot on 🎯

@hildejutta1625

Жыл бұрын

@@pimagema2620 Every person, who has ever experienced the grace - to experience God's presence - knows, that in this holy presence - when connected with a dying person - he sinks to his knees and remains silent - or - if no dying person is present - man is no longer able, to move arms and legs, open his mouth or twitch an eyelash. Furthermore: people, for whom God's hand saved their lives in World War I & II, in turn, know what has just happened through divine intervention and will keep it as an anchor throughout their lives. People whose terrible hunger had been satisfied by an act of God, and people whose loved ones had been saved from death by the grace of God know, that no man will ever be able to be God.

@pimagema2620

Жыл бұрын

@@hildejutta1625 Thanks. When I am in the presence of an inert object or a living being in the Universe, I feel in the presence of God their Creator. To love and admire creatures is to love and admire their Creator.

There’s always something exceptional, in our nature’s, which doesn’t effected us in general, and those exceptions are private and personal , and it’s not a fault of the nature’s!

Amazing

Can we please have them discuss love as well as getting a large portion of humans on the same agenda of compassionately caring moderately in hopes of managing survival of our species beyond natural disasters

Being a huge fan of Sadghuru, looking at this conversation I kept wandering what he have would said to these themes.

@jannloch

Жыл бұрын

Sadghuru is the man who says that the female period is the exact same length as the moon cycle. No, it is not. The female cycle is 28 days, the moon cycle is 29,5 days. That is 18 days in a year. Forget him!

@loesbakels5282

Жыл бұрын

@@jannloch yeah, there are far more mean leaders in the world, better take benefit from all the beauty and wisdom he brings with so much passion.. After all he's a man 😂

@Shah-iu1bx

Жыл бұрын

Sadhghuru ? Whenever i hear word guru , you already know it is not going to be good.

@himmsingz

9 ай бұрын

Jaggi Vasudev, Sadguru, mostly regurgitates Rajneesh’s thoughts. He is a blatant narcissist.

@taistelusammakko5088

4 ай бұрын

That fraud?

I love and truly admire Yuval💚✨

@dnaann1867

Жыл бұрын

Everyone does ,also he will top every competetive exam for sure,guy is an encyclopedia ,but cant agree with his conlusion[maybe needs to work on discrete logic a little]

@briandavis849

Жыл бұрын

something is wrong with you then.

WE HUMANS ARE VERY GOOD AT DESTROYING THAN AT BUILDING🙏✝️

"Nothing is neither good nor bad but thinking makes it so."

@MiauZi69

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha. That is so wrong. It's hard to even comprehend how someone can come up with such nonsense.

@Searchforfulltruth911

22 күн бұрын

​@@MiauZi69explain to me??