Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame........PERIOD

@TheBatugan77

5 жыл бұрын

No he shouldn't DOT DOT DOT

@Trump-oj2zi

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheBatugan77And your reason

@Trump-oj2zi

5 жыл бұрын

Both of you must be Democrats

@whenvioletsturngrey9597

3 жыл бұрын

There is plenty of Pete Rose memorabilia I’m the Hall of Fame. He just doesn’t have one of the ugly plaques. As a player, he deserves to be there. He screwed up. He openly admits it & is sorry for it. They’ll wait until he dies. He’ll get in. As he should.

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame........QUESTION MARK

Pete has done his time. He deserves be in the HOF.

@uncasunga1800

2 жыл бұрын

Fair point. No one in society gets Life in prison for gambling.

@GTKJNow

11 ай бұрын

Apostle Paul knew something about sports. Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. They do it to receive a perishable crown, but we an imperishable crown.

@lendrury2771

Ай бұрын

​@uncasunga1800 Bart giammati ostracized pete and he hated pete because pete didn't kiss his ass like everyone else did. Giammati was an arrogant prick and I had friends that attended Yale that said he was that way on campus too . When he was gravely ill he told fay Vincent to never let that bastard pete rose in the hall of fame and ban him for life and its carried on for years now

Pete Rose _must_ be inducted into the Hall Of Fame. The gambling thing has been way overplayed. He'd never throw a game in his life.

@jonathanlucas6390

7 жыл бұрын

brandnutopian you didn't think he ever gamble or lied. his are there but as a person he shouldn't.

@michaelm.6952

7 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Lucas he's a cheater and a liar, so he is not deserving of the HOF.

@bobmilin

7 жыл бұрын

No gambling period even if you bet on your own team you can't gamble. Pete Rose is not bigger then baseball. If he does go in then it's after he dies but to tell you the truth he should never be in. You gamble in MLB your out it's that simple everyone knows the rules.

@johnskasko9513

6 жыл бұрын

Please put Pete in

@andrewpestotnik5495

6 жыл бұрын

A Baller It was the The Black Sox and they were all proven innocent in a Federal Court.

if you "EVER" listen to Bench talk about Rose...they did EVERYTHING possible for Rose to make good on his screw up...and, according to Bench...Rose did not want to make it good...and, ultimately, Bench would say...the way he looks at it...would you tell your kids....there are no rules....the #1 rule in EVERY clubhouse....DO NOT BET ON BASEBALL!!!!! ROSE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE IN THE HOF....period! no doubt Rose was HOF worthy....but HE IS NOT BIGGER THAN THE GAME....he made his own bed, now he sleeps in it...no one to blame....BUT PETE ROSE!

@R2B2YT

5 жыл бұрын

So your not goi ng to teach your kid forgivness? Way to go there, he'll have good relationships lol BTW Draft Kings is now a sponsor to the MLB, what a joke all you people are...

@yescommunitiesnorules9623

3 жыл бұрын

He belongs in the hall of fame. He shouldn't be allowed to manage or general manage or bench coach etc. He should be allowed in the batting cages so he can talk hitting with players. His punishment is ridiculous no matter how stupid he was.

@rapid13

3 жыл бұрын

Dood...stop...with...the...ellipsis...to...break...up...your...thoughts! Ugh.

@wvu05

Жыл бұрын

@@R2B2YT And MLB Network even puts the lines for not only games, but prop bets. If they want to keep Rose out, they need to stop taking millions from gambling.

@mattmoore198

Жыл бұрын

Dont be such a sour person

The Baseball Hall of Fame will forever have a blemish until Pete Rose is in there. The Hall of Fame should be about what you do fair and square on the field. I believe those that took steroids should be banned forever but not ban someone who did stupid things off the field.

@vestibulate

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Johnson Placing bets on games he managed wasn't exactly off-field activity. He's admitted that he did this. How close does the guy have to come to openly corrupting the game before he's held to account?

@ThekiBoran

2 жыл бұрын

At least with roids we know they're cheating to win. With gambling it eventually leads to fixed games and no reason for fans to go to games.

@GTKJNow

11 ай бұрын

All this over a perishable crown? Apostle Paul knew something about sports. Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. They do it to receive a perishable crown, but we an imperishable crown.

I'm really glad to see how conciliatory Johnny is toward Pete here. And Pete was obviously contrite in apologizing to Johnny for his suspension story during Johnny's induction year. These men are back to the friends and professionals they were at the time of the Big Red Machine.

@dzanier

Жыл бұрын

I could never understand Bench’s resentment towards Pete. It’s not like Pete had any control over when it would become a story.

@ronfowlermusic

6 ай бұрын

@@dzanier but if Rose hadn't messed up the way he did...that was probably Johnny's thinking.

Pete is a hero .no matter what.

I think baseball does have rules that you have to adhere by and if you break them then you pay the price. Just like any time you break the law BUT when you break the law, you serve your time and then it's over. 30 years has passed, he paid his dues, they should let him in.

@ronwallace2782

6 жыл бұрын

Bennett Hastings his penalty was forever and it should be for all who degrade the game , i hate that its pete rose he was my favorite player growing up and still is

@wackocontender7591

6 жыл бұрын

what way did he degrade the game?

@hugh1297

5 жыл бұрын

He didn’t pay his dues. He still bets on baseball to this day, he never stopped lying about what he did, and there are lots of other reasons it would be a huge mistake to reinstate him

@R2B2YT

5 жыл бұрын

@@ronwallace2782 MLB is degrading the game...they have gambling sponsors now...what a joke these people are

@R2B2YT

5 жыл бұрын

@@hugh1297 and you know this how?

Apostle Paul knew something about sports. Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. They do it to receive a perishable crown, but we an imperishable crown.

P Brickley are you kidding me?

Yeah like Ty Cobb & others didn't place a bet or 100!!!! Peeeeeete & Johnny rules!!!!!

I" bet "Rose gets in the "Hall"

Great for holding your ground Dan.

pete rose deserves to be in the Hall of Fame period

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

pete rose deserves to be in the Hall of Fame question mark

Aw Dan Patrick!!!! Pete should be in the HOF!!!

For any of these ethics violations, The players and only the players should decide wether a player like Pete should be in. Not some talking head, the bbwaa or the commissioner.

i think we know what judge landis would do.

Pete Rose was an outstanding player only bet on his team to win, what is wrong with that, Pete is a hall of famer

@rogerdat45

6 жыл бұрын

Edmund Coyle you dont know that

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

@@rogerdat45 you wanna make a bet!

Life time suspension? So that means the day he dies he’s eligible for the HOF? Think about how silly that sounds!!

Baseball offered Rose a seven year suspension, or a lifetime suspension with the ability to appeal after a year. Rose took the lifetime suspension on the advice of his attorney Rueven Katz because he thought he would be reinstated after a year. Bart Giamatti died right after the matter was settled, and MLB has held it against Rose ever sense.

@hazelwood55

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know how Steinbreener would know what was offered to Rose, but Rose is such a compulsive liar, who knows what the real deal was. As a Reds fan growing up, I idolized Rose. All the joy I got watching and listening to the Reds seems tainted knowing what a scumbag Rose really is.

@chriswesterman5331

5 жыл бұрын

@@hazelwood55 He's a scumbag because he gambled? He obviously had/has some issues, but "scumbag" is a little strong.

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

Pete Rose killed Bart Giamatti!

@hazelwood55

3 жыл бұрын

@Jim McCracken I know, I know. Lighten up.

@hazelwood55

3 жыл бұрын

@@chriswesterman5331 When I say "scumbag", I really am referring to the fact that you cannot believe one word he says about the gambling incident. People want to forgive and give other people a second chance, but if you are going to continue to lie, they are not going to forgive.

A lifetime ban? Does that mean when he dies, the ban is over? If you're not going to put Rose in the HOF while he's alive, then forget it. My dad was a lifelong Cubs fan, and it really pissed him off that they waited until Ron Santo was dead to induct him into Cooperstown. The way I look at it, either you're a Hall of Famer, or you're not.

If Pete doesnt get reinstated then pardons and paroles should not be allowed. Lifetime ban for betting? Wish my managers would have bet on our team to win

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

don't bet on it!

Forget the, former commissioner, they where wrong

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

where

Noone would be in the hall of fame if everybody's secrets were known.

Listen to all the positive things Johnny says about Pete in this interview; then look at the comments below. People do not listen!

THE BIG RED MACHINE!!!!

In today's society none of the first inducties would be in they would say they were racists I think baseball goes by the 1800's rules they need to come to the 21st century and also sports writers should not select them it should be former players and the people who pay to watch them play

There are so many other horrors besides gambling that Pete did. Never!

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! To start with ... wearing that Prince Valiant haircut for so many years ... the horror!

and there are whispers that jordan shaved points to help get his father out of his gambling debts...

@martywheat9726

4 жыл бұрын

That's true ! They only enforce the rules when they want to look at Jordan and Barkley big gamblers

It's a lifetime suspension. The day after Pete goes to heaven, he will be inducted into the Hall. I hope he realizes that and that his son will be there on his behalf !

just put this mf in the hof already. sick of hearing about it. times have changed and now that the steroid era is over its time to review rose and put him in. same with joe jackson

@robertnunez5036

5 жыл бұрын

Agree!!!

@danam0228

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, put him in the hall, along with all the black sox and steroid users. Especially Roger Clemens and his wife. Screw having any rules or standards of any sort. And while we're at it, make gambling and the possession of and use of every conceivable drug and firearm legal in every state as anyone sees fit. And bring back pop rocks.

@budsimpson2853

5 жыл бұрын

Pete Rose was thrown out of baseball for gambling, not steroids.

who the fuck cares... he should be in the fucking hall of fame or no one should be in it

Shoeless Joe should get in. Then address Rose. So many lies. Idk

People are worried about gambling in baseball when it has gotten pretty obvious in the last ten years that the NFL has teams each year they want to win and the refs help them.

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

bananas and carburetors

@wvu05

Жыл бұрын

MLB Network even puts gambling lines on during games.

HOF is what you did on the field. And the hit king should be in. End of story

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

...then that would be the beginning of the story!

Pete Rose HOF player without a doubt. Did he break baseballs Cardinal rule about baseball and gambling, yes, because of this he does not belong in the HOF.

@chriswesterman5331

5 жыл бұрын

What does gambling have to do with how well you performed on the playing field?

@christophernickerson8225

4 жыл бұрын

That's true, then other players shouldn't be in either, bonds, Clemens, etc

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

The cardinal rule! and then there's "the Cardinal Rule" which is some nonsense about St. Louis being the greatest MLB town in the US ... psst ... it's not.

Thank you Dan for what you said a lifetime ban is that he knew it was wrong…he s sorry, he s sorry he got caught…Enjoyed watching play basketball in high school loved the vest!

@GTKJNow

11 ай бұрын

True. Apostle Paul knew something about sports. Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. They do it to receive a perishable crown, but we an imperishable crown.

I find it total BS when Pete is banned from baseball but they still show his highlights & they have casinos & lotteries as sponsors

@ThekiBoran

2 жыл бұрын

Do you want fixed games?

Not many know it but both these dude's were sausege suckers my uncle was in the reds organization for 12 years, a couple cup of coffees in majors but mostly a minor leaguer. He got invoted to "play" with jonny and pete in petes hotel room, they were very open about it with him.

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

naughty, naughty!

Bench is the main reason why he isn’t in, he’s just saying the cliche stuff

@SJam491

3 жыл бұрын

Bench AND Michael Sokolove.

@larryfeyler4824

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Bench is a world class bullshit artist. He hates Rose for taking the attention Bench had from their playing years. Bench colluded with HOF ers and commissioners to ban Rose. His lust for attention and hatred for Rose is that deep.

The bets Pete made on the Reds had a point spread. His team had to score more than enough runs to win or prevent the competion from doing so. Now, as manager, how would he accomplish that? Furthermore, if one of his position coaches told him a player might be betting on games, would he report that player? And finally, according to reports, Pete was into the Bonanno crime family for nearly a half a million dollars. There are a handfull of things that baseball is afraid of. These include things like doping, fights, and obscene gestures. But, there are things that terrify them and these are things like racial slurs, work stoppages and viewer apathy. But, they will never forget 1919. When a sporting event's outcome is predetermined it's called pro wrestling. When it's outcome is decided by organized crime memebers, it's a crime scene. If Pete Rose had not been informed on, he could have easily gone into debt for over a million dollars. In 1989 that was more significant considering he was on a 2 year, 1 million dollar contract. In addition, the losses were accruing interest in such a way that his debt would only be satisfied with a hot streak or a really big win. Pete was not known for his hot streaks. He was known for taking chances. Imagine the MLB Commissioner sitting in the FBI Director's office. A tape is played for him in which two major organized crime figures discuss Pete Rose, the "Hit King" being pressured into throwing a World Series game to pay off his debts. In 1990, the Cincinatti Reds swept the Oakland Athletics to win the World Series. Had Rose still been managing, and been up 3 to 0, with his gambling losses well over a million, and a chance to get even with a simple covering of the spread, what do you suppose he would have done? In this scenario Pete not only doesn't bet against his team, he doesn't bet at all. He simply manages his players in a way that prevents them from winning too big. He still gets his 4 game sweep and covers all his losses. As for the Hall of Fame, he has to be reinstated into baseball in order to become eligible. If he's reinstated, an owner can hire him as a manager. Pete has admitted that he still makes bets on sports. As a manager it is unlikely that he, a proabable gambling addict, will be able to stop. The commissioner, knowing this, has no choice but to deny reinstatement. So, if you are wondering why Pete Rose isn't in the MLB Hall of Fame, ask Pete Rose. You'll find him at either the Mandalay Bay or the MGM Grand Casino from noon to five in Las Vegas.

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

If what you're saying is roids put butts in seats and gambling has the opposite effect I concur.

@jamesbingham1007

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThekiBoran Thank you Boran. I seem to be in the minority on this one. I'm not anti-Pete Rose or against the Reds. I just think the most people who want Rose reinstated haven't looked at the whole issue.

@jamesbingham1007

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThekiBoran It muddies the conversation when folks compare steroid use to gambling. They have a very different effect on the game and those who support it. You can make an argument that PED's save the game. You can't make the arguement that gambling, by players, ever helped the game.

Bench talks a lot of shit about pete over the years and hes hypocritical pertaining pete Pete gambled . So what . Bench was no choir boy . He was a womanizer who screwed around on his wives and girlfriends constantly and he could hit the booze pretty good too The hall of fame looks stupid because your all time hits leader is not in the hall Your all time home run leader is not in and remember Barry bonds was never convicted of anything One of the greatest pitchers of all time is not in the hall in roger clemens who was also never convicted of anything The voting panel is a joke If they don't like your personality they wont vote you in . Gary sheffield is another guy who should absolutely be in .

HE BROKE THE RULES-PERIOD.

@rogerdat45

6 жыл бұрын

stephen burke yea but hes an old man and it took blood sweat and tears to get over 4k hits

@jvq3616

6 жыл бұрын

So fucking what! Pete should be in the hall of game,

@davidlinkous7138

6 жыл бұрын

All of the assholes juiced up to hit over 500 homeruns should never be allowed in the Hall of Fame either

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

Those fans who don't pay for a ticket shouldn't be allowed in the Hall of Fame either!

Johnny Bench was a winning ballplayer. Probably the second best catcher of his time behind Ted Simmons.

@jenkinsljenkinssquire9137

7 жыл бұрын

LOL Ted Simmons was not better than Johnny Bench

@hazelwood55

7 жыл бұрын

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

@vestibulate

6 жыл бұрын

I like that. You stuck up for your favorite. And apart from his skills on the field, Ted Simmons was a socially enlightened guy.

@jimlampe7869

6 жыл бұрын

simmons SUCKED! Bench WAS and IS THE GREATEST!

@ozoz9582

6 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Andy Etchebarron

Pete has to be the life long sacrifice for gambling because it will destroy the whole game. Are you nuts.

@martywheat9726

4 жыл бұрын

Money destroyed the game along time ago ! you can take drugs beat your wife leave your kids and that's fine

@ronniebishop2496

4 жыл бұрын

Marty Wheat Especially Football and Basketball.

@shanghaibricks3300

3 жыл бұрын

are you nuts? gluten-free!

manager of reds and bets on their games get real he doesn't belong in the hall of fame it's not the hall of shame

@HellYeahImIrish

7 жыл бұрын

Better, Pete for gambling than roid cheater Piazza.

@weballinboy1546

7 жыл бұрын

mory vitalle bet on his team to win it's not like he bet on them to lose

I stopped watching after a minute-and-a-half. Nobody gives a rat's backside if Rose is in the HOF. People just parrot what they're told to parrot.