Enjoyed a dose of common sense and reminder to respect your elders.

@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329

4 ай бұрын

Nowadays people seem to forget respect goes both ways, just because you're older don't give you the right to act like a know it all ass.

@embracethesuck1041

4 ай бұрын

I mean, sometimes your elders have dimentia. Respecting them doesn't mean they're always right.

Well said. More people need to hear this presentation.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

2 ай бұрын

thankyou

Well said and I admire how you“ LISTENED “ to what Ken actually was sharing from his many years as a professional firearms instructor

I suspect 99% of the Wilson Combat guys detractors haven't a 10% of their experience.

"Reverse Fudd", I think you nailed it right there, and I agree completely!

AWESOME AND WELL SPOKEN! Agreed 100%

Amen

Well said. What I carry and use is my choice. My choices are based on my experience and my needs. I learned a lot hanging out with old guys at the gun shop. Doesn't mean a took all their advice, but that knowledge helped either way.

Well said, Thanks Garrett.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Well said my man! I grew up shooting revolver, 1911’s, & DA/SA firearms and that’s what I still use today. IMO if it isn’t broke don’t fix it!

Well said, great points I completely agree 🤠

I agree with you. Been watching Ken & Massad for decades longer than any of these other people and they’ve always had solid advice.

Thanks for this, Buddy. Ken and Bill said the same thing about lights 6 months ago and nobody cared. This little jonny b stirs the pot this time and all hell breaks loose. Seems like people just can't wait to get offended anymore.

@Brett235

21 күн бұрын

Johnny B's opinion on anything firearm related, other than what he brags about buying, is irrelevant. He's an entertainer period. Guys that have opinions based on real life and death situations, such as Paul Howe or Clint Smith and Ken Hackathorn are the men that I listen to. Not because they're the be all end all but because they have experience to back up their claims. I wouldn't take truck driving advice from a 20 year old dispatcher for the same reason.

Well said sir. Great job on all of the issues that people have been tearing Hackathorn a new one over. I am not taking up for Ken nor do I agree with everything he says, but I also have been around the block a few times and thinking things thru and watching and listening closely all the way without an emotional knee jerk, most people would understand some of what was being said and discussed. There were some things he didn't go into his reasoning behind his thoughts or didn't say something more appropriately or accurately but truth of the matter, Hackathorn has forgotten more gun related topics and tactics than most will ever know.

Amen, I'm on your side brother.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Yup these big channels spend more time attacking each other then the real enemy

@antiquegunslinger

5 ай бұрын

Dividend we fall.

It had to be said. Kudos!

Nice to hear some 'common sense' regarding such topics...

We need to stop giving credence to the Force Recon Rangers from SEAL Team Delta!! I know Ken, he is a VERY good friend and his experience is MUCH more valuable than any of these kids playing John Wick!!

Well said.

Great video and well said .

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly

Good video and good advise.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I agree, hell they actually witnessed a guy shooting his nuts off while appendix carrying. That changes a man.👍

The gun culture is based on video games. Granted, we grew up with John Wayne and Clint Eastwood but the guns we carried were levers, revolvers and bolt rifles. The town I grew up in, the local gun store had AR's and AK's. No one really bought them. It was northern california, high sierras, hunters. The first time I heard a guy use words like appendix or isosceles or whatever, I had no idea what the guy was talking about. I grew up with guns, did the nra safety hunter when I was a kid. almost got my CCW and decided, who cares. Nevada has open loaded cary. Case in point. Do you have a wife or a chest feeding birthing person ? That is how rediculous the united states has become.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Yup and opinions are no longer allowed

@jason_m_schmidt622

Ай бұрын

The more ridiculous it becomes, the closer we are to judgement🙏🏻

Subbed. Part of the issue is that, although they’d never admit it, is that a lot of these Younger firearms owners have taken on a Karen persona. If they don’t agree with something, they become Triggered very easily.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

3 ай бұрын

very true

Tried and true will never be wrong. Wyatt Earp was quoted fast is fine but accuracy is final... Wild Bill Hitchcock said to take your time in a hurry... The old ways aren't dead they just aren't listened too

I remember going into a drug store, pulling a gun magazine off the rack, and reading a random article by some dude named Massad Ayoob. "What a weird name" I thought. But the article seemed quite sensible. But what did I know? I was 16 at the time and had never fired a gun. Now I'm in my mid 50s and Massad and Ken are still kicking around and teaching classes. Hell, I'm a subscriber. So I agree, we should respect our elders. But just because I respect them doesn't mean I take every thing elders say without question. If I did that I'd be a Biden voter! I don't like appendix carry for much of the reasons Ken said. But I know people who are very well trained in it. It is one of the best ways to carry concealed. I disagree with his stance on lights. I like to see what I'm gonna shoot first. If it merits a bullet or buckshot I want to keep seeing it in case it needs more without juggling a light and a gun. I definitely disagree with the way he said civilians shouldn't have gear the military and police use. I am far from alone with that and I think it angered people more than anything else. The world is changing and right now not for the better. 25 years ago nobody needed an AR (or so it seemed) and bolt rifles, shotguns and revolvers sufficed. Now anyone rocking a double barrel shotgun not LARPing as Doc Holliday is a Fudd. (I used to be a "two shots of buck is all you need" guy.) Why is that? Because today's police are not automatically your friends, capable, or even competent. Excepting sheriffs in conservative areas they haven't been friendly for a while. As for competence? One word: acorn. The military is getting less friendly though thankfully less competent as it re-enacts the institutional morass of the 1970s. "Revinoors" got their numbers bumped up to larger than the Marine Corps with guns to boot. Every federal bureaucracy has its own goon squad. Even the Department of Education has a SWAT team. If you live too close to a big city you might get got by Antifa, a BLM mob or maybe even Iranian sleeper cells. So very soon - if it hasn't happened already - anyone who doesn't own body armor and decent quality NVGs will be a Fudd.

Good video! When did my big brother start saying soda?? 😂

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Since he Started making more friends in the south lol

@oliviawoods6930

5 ай бұрын

@@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods does it make you POPular?? 😂😂😂 Just kidding! Love you!

@cleophusA

4 ай бұрын

@@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods I grew up in Alabama and we called ALL soft drinks "Co-cola," of course short for "Coca-Cola." It didn't matter what it was, Royal Crown, Ne-hi, Orange Crush, Sun Drop, it was all "Co-cola." If we heard somebody say "soda" or "soda pop," we knew automatically they were a yankee! Thanks for the new show, I can already tell it's gonna' be a favorite!

I agree except about the home defense wml. You do not have to point your gun at someone to identify them with the wml. You can have the gun at low ready pointed at the floor infront of them and the light will be plenty bright to see if they are a threat. Same if it's pointed up at the ceiling. If your are pointing your gun at an unknown person to use the light to see them and you know it could be a family member, well that's a reason to get training. It's not a reason to forgo a wml.

@Brett235

21 күн бұрын

Bullets bounce off of concrete so a negligent discharge at 2am when you're sleepy and sweeping the floor with your wml to see who or what is possibly in your house is a recipe for disaster. Having all of your fine motor skills and situational awareness along with remembering your training when you're sleepy is a maybe at best. Handheld lights are easy to carry and easier to deploy.

@josh885

21 күн бұрын

@@Brett235 Get training. An ND can't happen if your finger is not on the trigger if you are not going to shoot. Your comment sounds like someone who is unsure and inexperienced in their gun handling. I literally can't pick up a gun or even drill without my finger automatically going straight and high along the side. If you really think you could have an ND in that situation you need to train and practice more so you are the same. Safe gun handling should be so automatic it takes brain power NOT to do it. Not the other way around. Otherwise you will screw it up when distracted or under extreme stress like when someone is trying to kill you. Let alone tired. Also you are assuming the floor in everyone's house is concrete. It's not. Part of this is knowing stuff like that ahead of time and making plans accordingly. Oh and that's also why I said you can also point it up. You could also point it on a wall to their left and get the same effect. Depending on what's on the other side of it of course. Have you even thought about moving around your house with a gun in your hand before? Like where you would point it? How you would go though a door way? Do you know these things? Like if you have a second floor is pointing it up a good idea? Could be. Could not be. But man you gotta know and decide these things and practice them with like a blue gun before you have to do it for real with with lives on the line. There is a lot more too this than just putting a gun on your night stand. Food for thought.

@Brett235

21 күн бұрын

@@josh885 training training training..lol you sound like Whoopi on the view, blah blah blah. You're dense if you don't think that you can't have a negligent discharge when you're awakened in the middle of the night, it's happened many times. "I was startled and pulled the trigger by accident". Use a handheld flashlight and that negates that possible issue. I'm guessing that you're one of those cqb ninjas that sleep with your nods and plate carrier on.. LMAO.

I use both and even made a video called ''foolish arguments'' to demonstrate that it don't really matter. Training matters. It is dedicated to both sides and i do have a Wilson Combat 1911 in the video. It can hang with any goochi glock. I use a Hackathorn special and have the up-most respect for these older instructors. I feel bad that the young people of today and in the firearms industry are extremely sensitive and often times obviously feminized by todays society... Anyway I got 3 Purple Hearts in Afghanistan and what I learned from all that real gun-fighting, is that the first ""HIT"" matters the most. It is the first shot from the draw that matters most. And even with the safety on and in a 4 o'clock Push-pull draw with no optic and a low capacity magazine the 1911s first shot is the same or faster. This is clearly demonstrated in my low budget black and white video. Because I have practiced both Millennial, plastic, appendix, sensitivity, flashlight with an optic. And on the other hand I have practiced no optic, leather holster, 45 ACP full power, Masculinity, Minimalistic and straight up Fud mode. They both work... They would both drop a mass shooter no problem or a POS Taliban. Subbed and liked!!

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

Ай бұрын

Very well put!

A light on my secondary system, awesome. Heck I’ll put a bayonet on my flamethrower, when thing go stupid, I want every advantage possible.

Just heard about this a couple days ago. I think, we are giving this Jackwagon too much credit and publicity. I seriously doubt these other men with Proven Credentials and credibility, give two Shits, what this Johnnie B guy thinks. I know i dont.

Awesome

Just remember how jim zumbo or something like that put his foot in his mouth I don't like the Fudd name but alot of there stances on the 2a not really good

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

I agree but we can't just slap that title on anyone who disagrees or has a different opinion on safe carry styles

99 PERCENT OF THE TIME I CARRY A RUGRR SUPER BLACKHAWK 44MAG WITH 200 GR.HOLLOW POINTS.OR A THREE SCREW BLACKHAWK 357 WITH 125 GR. HOLLOW POINTS.ALSO HAVE AND CARRY A GLOCK 19. KONNY B. PROBABLY CAN’T HIT SHIT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF OPTIC.

Very well said!

When Hackathorn separated us as the "private sector" from military and law enforcement, that told me a lot about this jerk.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

So when he talks about the different "missions" of civilians, law enforcement, and military, his point is. In self defense Legally it is the job of the civilian stop the attack. It is the job of law enforcement to stop the attack and pursue the assailant. It is the job of the military to be the assailant. So hackatorn says all this When giving legal advice for people who are concealed carrying handguns. He's not saying don't defend yourself against tyrannical government. These statements were mostly just made for people who might wind up on the witness Stand because they got into a self-defense shooting. Remember, he's teaching this to a ccw class.

@nathanielroseen5397

4 ай бұрын

Do you need a safe place snowflake?

Wait you’re talking about common sense… that not allowed in a Tacticool world. Thanks!

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

3 ай бұрын

Thankyou for watching

Garrett I like your opinion. I respect Ken's opinion. He's been there and done that. When giggle boys meme and ridicule a knowledgeable adult who absolutely knows what he's talking about I just consider the source. Some people didn't have the benefits of good parents who taught them the rights and wrongs. They deserve pity for what they don't know and the reasons for their arrogance. I'm positive Ken doesn't care about the fly poop on the screen door.

I'm actually getting pretty darned tired of these "Tactical Timmies" who think they have a ton of experience, and all they ever owned was an AR-15 and Glock. Let me tell yah, just because I prefer wood and steel, and classic firearms... doesn't mean that I don't own some more modern weaponry which more closely reflects the type of gear I carried as an active duty paratrooper. They can call me a FUDD, but I guarantee I can dump more bad guys quicker than those little tactical timmies can. I just don't understand why we want to eat our own in the 2A community. These millenial tacticool dudes need to chill out.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

3 ай бұрын

100%

@jason_m_schmidt622

Ай бұрын

Driftless, I’m convinced it’s instigated drama for clicks & views instead of providing worthwhile knowledge for people. Many such cases these days.

@Driftless-Ramblings

Ай бұрын

@@jason_m_schmidt622 Yeah, I think you're probably right. This is not the time to eat our own, though. We need to unite, vote, and defeat the real enemies of freedom - not each other.

I feel like the term Fudd is a catch all work for “anything I dislike or disagree with”

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Yup it used to mean guys that didn't like ar 15s..... now it's the guys who make and sell ar 15s and say you shouldn't carry a revolver.... lol I missed something somewhere

@Everythingblackpowder

5 ай бұрын

@@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods life comes at you fast…

I dont watch many channels anymore and I dont watch the drama. I watch for education or entertainment. I do what I do dont worry what others do. Way i see it everyone has a right to their own opinions. I carry a SAA loaded with 5 plowboy does 6. Plowboy ain't wrong we just do things a little different.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. I want to tell these guys it's just an opinion

I honestly agree with Ken about WMLs, and I pretty much feel the same way about red/green dots, and don't have either on my carry guns. But hey, to each his own...you do you. So many "you're stupid because you don't think like me" idiots in the gun community. Leave that crap to the liberal Karen crowd, and just respect the fact that different people have different opinions.

Whether you agree with Ken or not, that man has trained high level operators all over the world. He and his students have a multitude of real world experience. His beliefs are based on actual evidence. He didn't make this stuff up.

The things people will cry and whine about is unreal sorry they got you wound up man

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Don't worry I'm not wound up I just find it kinda silly.lol ialways have to remember most of these youtubers are first generation gun guys and haven't set at the feet of the older gun guys

An opinion??? That's not acceptable it's 2024 Lol

I get what you are saying man. But being incorrect is being incorrect no matter how experienced you are. Ken hackathorn didn’t just say “I don’t like red dots, appendix carry or weapon lights” he made several videos insinuating those who did so were stupid, while all those tactics or items are proven and have their benefits. I understand being respectful to your elders, but elders also shouldn’t be blatantly idiotic and act superior to the younger generation. Am I supposed to respect Fauci for his years of medical experience and age when he’s blatantly incorrect now? Am I suppose to respect Biden because he’s been in office for decades and is aged, all while he’s being an absolute moron? Now I know those examples I’ve given are people I vehemently disagree with of course I would have more respect to someone I respect more, but the people I respect more wouldn’t demean me for having things that are simply superior. My last class I was running with two gentlemen in their 70s who had red dots and wmls and extended mags, coolest dudes I’ve ever met. Respect the elderly for their age sure, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t being dumb.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

To be honest I watched every hackathorn video he has put out in the last few years. Never once did I hear him call someone stupid for using a red dot as a matter of fact, he said that the new or upcoming generation would be able to use the red dots far better than the older generation. He just said it wasn't a necessity, but he also said. If you want a red dot, be sure to go out and get you a good quality one. And he gave several recommendations. So I have never heard him say or insinuate that if you use a red dot, you're stupid

Too many young people will have to learn these things the hard way because they won’t listen to older people.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

5 ай бұрын

Yup

New term tactical timmy

It seems like there's a tendency among "young" people today, (millennials up to gen Z), to automatically discount, tear down and cast into disrepute just about anything said by the "baby boom" generation. I really don't understand this at all. I guess I'm what's considered a "boomer," a term I used to take pride in because I was the last ditch product, (born in 1960), of the men and women who grew up scratching to survive during the depression and fought Hitler and Tojo into the ground and made our Republic of States the greatest Country on the planet. Now, I consider the term as derogatory because that's the way it's used by these newer generations. I don't understand the flippant contempt and callous disregard many in the newer generations have for their elders. In my day, when an elder spoke, whether you agreed with him or not, you gave him the respect deserving of his age and experience and listened to him. I may not have agreed with what he had to say, but I listened to him and allowed him to speak without afterwords talking about him like he was a senile old idiot who should be put on the "pay no mind" list. Men like Ken Hackathorn and Massad Ayoob have literally forgotten more about firearms and armed combat that I will ever hope to know. When men like these speak, you would do well to listen.

The “Ok Boomer” thing needs to stop. Gen Xennial to Gen Zero thinks they are the greatest generation because they follow the latest trend and talk among themselves. A Fudd is ANYBODY that says “I’m all for the Second Amendment...BUT,...” listing all these things you shouldn’t have or be allowed to have. This applies as much if not more to cocky 18 year olds as to never-grew-up 88 year old that hates AR15s. Experience matters and age has a lot to offer youth if youth is wise enough to listen.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

4 ай бұрын

100%

Ken Hackathorn is wrong about the light thing and Johnny B. sucks. That’s my opinion anyway. I say you do you, light , no light, whatever you want I don’t care.

@nathanielroseen5397

4 ай бұрын

Have the gun light but rely on a separate light for all the reasons stated by the most experienced and logical people one can learn from

Not a fan of Johnny B never have been . And he’s showing again why I don’t like him he’s kinda doing what gun nutz media/ Caleb giddings did to Paul harrel a few years ago.