John Polkinghorne - Why Science and Religion Think Differently

Science and religion-each pursues large truths and offers total solutions. Science works; that's for sure. Religion? Not so sure. What are the thought processes, the ways of thinking, of science and religion? How do the 'scientific method' and the 'religious method' compare and contrast? Moreover, how to develop trust in the separate truths of science and religion?
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The Rev. John Charlton Polkinghorne was an English theoretical physicist, theologian, and writer. He was professor of Mathematical Physics at the University of Cambridge, and he resigned his chair to become an ordained Anglican priest.
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  • @Dialogos1989
    @Dialogos19892 жыл бұрын

    I’ve regained an interest and respect for the religious approach. Even though the methodologies are diametrically opposed to each other, I believe science and religion MUST coexist with each other and check each other to maintain a healthy society.

  • @dan23563

    @dan23563

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a healthy suspicion that you are, in fact, a religious person. Only a religious person would say what you said.

  • @Dialogos1989

    @Dialogos1989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dan23563 what exactly do you mean by “religious” person?

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Dialogos1989 Thinks superstition has a bearing on their lives and pretends to know what they do not know.

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dan23563 Religion must exist to keep scientists occupied with refuting utter rubbish instead of actual productive work. Superstition held us back hundreds of years, and so it continues. Stem cell research is but one of the afflictions.

  • @Dialogos1989

    @Dialogos1989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VaughanMcCue if you equate religion with superstition then you don’t understand religion

  • @steliosfaitakis7980
    @steliosfaitakis79802 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏻🙏🏻 congratulations for your incredible work! ❤️

  • @dthom71
    @dthom712 жыл бұрын

    Great interview.

  • @tcl379
    @tcl3792 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful!

  • @maxwellsimoes238

    @maxwellsimoes238

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ridiculus he Not knows Science than religious. It is branzely liar. Challatan comments from steril conclusions.

  • @mugsofmirth8101

    @mugsofmirth8101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxwellsimoes238 learn English

  • @sumayamohamed5571
    @sumayamohamed55712 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    Is there interpersonal or interagency agreement, or something different for interagency experience?

  • @ChrisOgunlowo
    @ChrisOgunlowo3 ай бұрын

    Beautiful.

  • @S3RAVA3LM
    @S3RAVA3LM2 жыл бұрын

    Long as we argue from a stance of ignorance never is there resolution. The teaching is you have to put your ego to death so the Spirit is resurrected -- your material beliefs, partiality, bias, favoritism. We all have a subjective philosophy we think is right, we apply our own subjective thinking of Reason so feeling justified In our beliefs and actions -- we have to over come that. If God had a religion it would be Philosophy; people have religions and there's war -- how close to God really are we long as we act like dictators and tyrants, expecting people to hear what we think is the word of God while disregarding everybody's else's word of God -- this is ego, which many worship thinking it to be God. Whatever book you like I respect. Do not outlaw the book I like. If you seek to discredit my book with lies, ignorance, selfish affixations only indicates that you have not an understanding or compassionate heart, thus you have no Wisdom and Wisfom is the lotus body of the Soul. Krishna, Christ, Horus, Thoth, Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad, Zeus, Apollo etc. The only reason we cannot see the relation and Oneness of this metaphysical meaning or Spirit is because of the worldly eyes or ego we have and look through -- separation, division, difference. The only value we know of something to be is the level of understanding we have of it. And if you value division, separation, lies, ego, selfishness then that is no value, but rather you are a negation of what value is and cannot come to know meaning thus never attain value yourself. Nature works as one, the eco system, she's tough even harsh, but she doesn't lie or manipulate, if anything she once brought us together, to fight off the darkness the hunger, to work together for food and unity, together to bring meaning and arises purpose.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    How to test / experiment interpersonal experience in religion, or something different for interpersonal experience?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    Could time be measure of interagency experience, quality and quantity?

  • @andreasplosky8516
    @andreasplosky8516 Жыл бұрын

    "Why Science and Religion Think Differently" Because the scientific method cares about practical truth, while religion cares about comforting fantasy.

  • @nickbourne3910

    @nickbourne3910

    10 ай бұрын

    Stupid comment

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC2 жыл бұрын

    (7:20) *JP: **_"I can look with the eye of science and look with the eye of religion, and I will see more with that binocular vision than I will with either eye on its own."_* ... Exactly! That is a most eloquent way of stating everything I've been forwarding. Aside from theism's _God_ and Big Bang's _singularity_ establishing endpoints on the "spectrum of Conceivability," science and religion offer two different perspectives regarding our existence, ... which at their very core are _complimentary._ Science seeks to answer the question, *"How?"* Religion seeks to answer the question, *"Why?"* Neuroscience seeks to answer the question, *"How?"* Philosophy seeks to answer the question, *"Why?"* Mathematics seeks to answer the question, *"How?"* Art seeks to answer the question, *"Why?"* The most difficult intellectual journey someone can take is to _remove_ themself from the equation and view everything from an outsider's perspective. It is only after you've shoved every information-gathering tool humanity has into a blender that the truth is revealed.

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you are just romanticising religion to hype it up into something more than what it is. No doubt the truth is unpalatable and bitter so naturally people make their own comforts to sugar coat their reality.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TurinTuramber *"I think you are just romanticising religion to hype it up into something more than what it is."* ... Interesting word choice. What is the scientific definition of _"romanticizing?"_ *"No doubt the truth is unpalatable and bitter so naturally people make their own comforts to sugar coat their reality."* ... So, without a religious perspective we are left with the cold, unpalatable, and bitter reality that our lives are utterly meaningless. _Got it!_

  • @ronhudson3730

    @ronhudson3730

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cue the usual abrupt dismissal by those who frankly despise religion and the religiously-minded. Often coming from a position of negative personal experience with religion. One could just as easily dismiss science’s import on one’s life. It tells one everything but answers nothing. It’s findings in terms of the profound questions, are essentially meaningless, other than the useful information it provides. It’s cold, wear a coat. It’s on fire, don’t put your hand in. It provides aviation, surgery, trips to the moon etc. It seems the only answer it has to the most profound questions is: meaningless question - unanswerable. Or, we don’t know. Or, you are nothing, you live you die. In both cases, since absolute certainty will always be unattainable, at least in life, either science or religion require belief or a leap of faith. A foot in both camps leads to: a better life through science and a meaningful life through religion.

  • @mr.spinoza

    @mr.spinoza

    2 жыл бұрын

    Science answers "why" with "how", in other words by explaining the causal natures and mechanisms behind how everything operates, whether in time or not. Religion invents a "why" where there is no why in terms of a purpose, and they invent a solution to a non-question. Therefore they fool people into confabulating a religious doctrine, purporting to answer an elusive non-existence "why" beyond what the real Naturalistic world, without teleology, lacks. Nature is not anthropomorphic. Secular existentialism is a far better candidate at answering the "why" question of meaning, because they do not invent false entities in order to give their life purpose. They stick to truth.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ronhudson3730 *"A foot in both camps leads to: a better life through science and a meaningful life through religion."* ... Interesting way to put it. I am not a theist, but I DO see value in this construct. I also see value in science. If I assess "value" to science and "value" to religion and then add the two values together, then logically speaking, I end up with greater value.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    Religion about interpersonal or interagency experience, contrast with science person experience of physical reality / nature?

  • @business2075
    @business20752 жыл бұрын

    Religion looks at a perception which has been preserved through stories. Religion holds fast to explaining the concious enigma as the soul.(so I am, so it must be). Science reveals an occurrence - what influenced it and in turn what it influenced. "I think therefore I am." They think differently because one is an interpretation and the other is a method of observation.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol talk about being brainwashed Putin says, "Believe in me, support me & be rewarded or else!" Now change Putin to God and use the same words that are OPENLY promoted! So much for all our big talk on morals and values

  • @business2075

    @business2075

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramaraksha01 your statement doesn't resonate with me. There seems to be a misunderstanding or an assumption being made.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@business2075 That's the brainwashing power of religion ALL ideas came from Earth, from the life that we had Primitive people living under Kings/Dictators came up with these Gods - those were violent times, not democracies, think Putin, such men rewarded their loyal followers and abused the rest Hence a Heaven that is limited to loyal followers of X Religion The rest threatened with the torture of Hell unless they convert and support the "Dear, Loving leader" who will then be pleased and give them a life of comfort for eternity! That was the life they had then & those were the Gods and Heavens that they envisioned, similar to the life they had at that time What is amazing to me is the brainwashing power of religion that even educated, intelligent people of the modern world can see none of this

  • @ivanpokupec7710
    @ivanpokupec7710 Жыл бұрын

    Comments are ridiculous... Some ppl here didn't even listen to the interview. 🙄

  • @blackbearbear9313
    @blackbearbear93132 жыл бұрын

    Your right one is wrong and the other is right you figure out who is right remember to choose wisely your internal life matters on it

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    Antacid tablets can help.

  • @grixessedraxis7267
    @grixessedraxis72672 жыл бұрын

    Religion has to listen to science but science does not have to listen to religion.

  • @pedroporto6729
    @pedroporto67292 жыл бұрын

    One is about reallity and the others is about fantasy.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    Maybe science more about quantity, religion more about quality? What investigates religious quality the way science investigates physical quantity?

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good question, as it points out that delusional thinking and superstition are the foundations. Religious thinking is nothing more than superstition and conflating it with scientific endeavours is a distressing reflection on how poorly humanity and particularly the fundamentalists retard our development.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602

    @jamesruscheinski8602

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VaughanMcCue conscious experience uses language to describe the quality of emotions and feelings

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesruscheinski8602 Interesting I wonder what non verbal and uncared for illiterate people "think" those who have had pathetic upbringing

  • @thomasridley8675
    @thomasridley86752 жыл бұрын

    Science looks for answers to important questions. Religion believes that they already have all the answers. And questions just get in the way.

  • @mrshankerbillletmein491

    @mrshankerbillletmein491

    2 жыл бұрын

    People are losing faith in scientists they say all sorts of nonsence like politicians and historians you describe how science should be done. I mean what does the multiverse have to do with science. They like to sell books and do lecture tours.

  • @thomasridley8675

    @thomasridley8675

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrshankerbillletmein491 What does the multiverse have to do with science ? It is science. Except that it's only educated speculation at this point. Jesus Christ !!! They only hate the parts of science that doesn't support their expectations of reality.

  • @Dialogos1989

    @Dialogos1989

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only fundamentalism.

  • @thomasridley8675

    @thomasridley8675

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Dialogos1989 Every religion thinks that they are the ones with the right interpretation of reality. That they have some special knowledge that puts them above those that doesn't accept their theology as fact. That their group, race or country is under the protection of their particular supernatural being or theology. And it is their mission to get everyone to conform to their outdated social structure. We have held over 300,000 spiritual beliefs over our time. Each one was the real deal. So I can't see that their credibility score will show a home run at this point just because they wish it would. It's pretty obvious that people will believe just about any ridiculous idea, if you stick a spiritually focused stamp on it. Just look at the spectrum of beliefs. From absolutely none to the most extreme views that society will allow. Religion in particular, has no room for the individual. Or even valid questions that threaten their credibility and personal status. They are drug dealers. And too much of it can cause dangerous anti-social behavior. As we have seen too much of over the generations. Hey, it's not just the abrahamic faiths that have this issue. It's pretty consistent over almost all religions. The ingroup, outgroup mentality. Outside influences are bad. Only listen to what we approve of. Only think what we approve of. Questions can make you stray from the path we want you on. Conform or be rejected, and maybe even attacked, as a threat to their echo chamber.

  • @elgatofelix8917

    @elgatofelix8917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most of what passes for "science" today, is anything but.

  • @supremegalacticcommander2783
    @supremegalacticcommander27832 жыл бұрын

    I am always amused when reading the comments from any KZread video that delves into "science vs. God". The people who are believers or at least, act as if they believe, are generally humble, polite and respectful, while the atheists are typically condescending, snarky, and generally rude. It reminds me of the quote from Bertrand Russell (and yes, I know he was an atheist, that's why it makes me using it in this context ironic), "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". Great interview, Mr. Polkinghorne seems like he was a true gentleman.

  • @Nouvellecosse

    @Nouvellecosse

    2 жыл бұрын

    My experience (not specific to youtube mind you) is that "believers" tend to have equal or greater certainty in their views (to put it mildly). And rather than mere snark and condescension, they're often judgemental or even downright contemptuous of people whose values have different origins. The reason there may be a difference in the youtube comments is likely that the many staunch believers of religion are often not curious or open enough to even watch content that has an honest exploration of such issues and wouldn't subscribe to such a channel to begin with.

  • @elgatofelix8917

    @elgatofelix8917

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nouvellecosse Richard Dawkins openly encourages his followers to openly mock/ridicule those who disagree with them. #FACT

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    Religion is all about certainty. Science is all about doubt. Now what was it that Bertrand Russell said?

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    Attempting to pass off unfalsifiable claims of all powerful supernatural creatures as fact will draw ridicule. Most theists would be equally as dismissive to somebody who started talking about the impending zombie apocalypse. If I told you that Lord Voldemort was alive and coming for us all, what would you say to me?

  • @Nouvellecosse

    @Nouvellecosse

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elgatofelix8917 Meanwhile, many religious leaders have promoted laws that curtail the personal freedoms of those they disagree with. There are even countries where being an LGBT person is illegal on the basis of religious doctrine. Richard Dawkins is one person who speaks for himself. I come from a religious family (Christian /Pentecostal) and am now a secular humanist. I've been exposed to many of both types of people and the idea that the religious side is somehow nicer or more reasonable to the opposition is ludicrous. But regardless, people are all individuals so all generalizations have exceptions.

  • @neffetSnnamremmiZ
    @neffetSnnamremmiZ2 жыл бұрын

    Science and Religion, both are ways of self alienation, explained with Nietzsche, in both the subject of knowledge steps each in specific way next to itself (!), for self intervention, for reason of self transformation and realization! In both the consciousness is not on its own height! 😉

  • @neffetSnnamremmiZ

    @neffetSnnamremmiZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    In science, the "law-maker" subtracts itself to get the "isolated laws"! In religion the subject of knowledge steps beside itself and looks at itself as an "isolated object"!

  • @jenniferstone2975
    @jenniferstone29752 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant interview!

  • @stephenzhao5809
    @stephenzhao58092 жыл бұрын

    Thanks be to God for you guys talking on science and religion, John & Bob, I do appreciate your insights a lot! Shalom,

  • @MrSanford65
    @MrSanford652 жыл бұрын

    Religion worships the simplicity of life, science worships the complexity , in my opinion sometimes complex only by contradictions. I myself believe as human beings the truth of life is meant to be simple, for why would the truth want to hide itself ?

  • @PaulHoward108

    @PaulHoward108

    2 жыл бұрын

    God conceals Himself because it's hard for us to live in the presence of greatness, and for the privacy to avoid envious persons. But within the simple is a good place to hide.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol the same one that has much blood on their hands? The one that wiped out Native Americans, Mayans and tried to wipe out Jews? Even today Atheists and Gays live in fear for their lives in many countries If simplicity is the goal, then all these mass murders, millions spent on proselytization, the OPEN THREATS OF HELL UNLESS WE CONVERT, wouldn't be going on

  • @MrSanford65

    @MrSanford65

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulHoward108 i actually believe God hides behind The concept of God, behind the concept of language , and behind the limits of human memory. But I think we call his name in different forms of meaning everyday whether it’s money sex or science. But Something drives us beyond what we think are our limitations

  • @Clancydaenlightened
    @Clancydaenlightened2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone ever read the book of genesis and thought it kinda sounds like the big bang and evolution

  • @Clancydaenlightened

    @Clancydaenlightened

    2 жыл бұрын

    "let there be light, and there was light, saw that the light was good, and separated it from the dark, called the light day and darkness called night"

  • @keithrelyea7997

    @keithrelyea7997

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya and the Adam and Eve story kinda sounds like evolution by natural selection.

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    No.

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought it sounded like the ramblings of bored superstitious goat herders.

  • @sciencefirst7880
    @sciencefirst78802 жыл бұрын

    30 seconds in and he is wrong! Science seeks to answer questions...religion says it knows the answers. DON'T MIX SCIENCE AND RELIGION YOU WON'T GET AWAY WITH IT!

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    And what is amazing that not even the best and brightest of minds ask what these answers are I keep hearing of this Grand Plan but no one knows what it is! I keep asking what does one DO in Heaven? Any work? What work would an all-mighty with incredible powers would have for us puny humans? Are we talking billions of people just sitting around doing nothing? An idle, lazy, useless and pointless existence for eternity? What is frightening is the lack of questions from even the most moral, the philosopher The latter ask what is the purpose of life but never once ask what is the purpose of an eternal "life" in Heaven sitting around doing nothing! Amazing! And when I try to ask such questions - writing to newspapers or magazines - i get "not suitable for publication" - Forums are the worst - any criticism of religion is NOT allowed - in the "land of the free and brave", I get quickly censored When Tim Tebow got to be on the Jaguars team - I posted on Yahoo message boards that he got his place on the team just like he thinks the will get Heaven - by knowing the "right" people having a "relationship" with boss - no need to EARN his place Well, that got me kicked out of Yahoo message boards - my comment got deleted and now whenever I try to post anything - even a simple hello - the comment gets deleted because it does not comply with Yahoo's community guidelines! Amazing! To see the power of Religion that even good people become willing Censors of free speech No wonder religion has so much blood on their hands - willing Nazis ready to abuse others in the name of religion

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get out of here with this nonsense. Science & Religion are man-made systems for a particular understanding of existence. Science relies completely on the Laws of Nature for man to explain natural phenomena & gain new knowledge & UNDERSTANDING of the PHYSICAL existence. Only an intelligence makes Law & knowledge, and everything in the Universe(physical existence) obeys the Laws of nature and have information & knowledge that an intelligence can extract using the scientific method. Again. Only an intelligence makes Laws .... of Nature Religion is simply Man's belief & understanding of a particular existence. For Christians this existence involves both the physical(Universe) and the non-physical(Spiritual) and that Man exists in both with a Human Body & Human Soul/spirit. The sciences & data clearly shows the Universe & Life have an UNNATURAL origin by an intelligence. But most have a firm belief( ie faith) that the Universe & Life have an UNNATURAL origin 14 & 4 billions years ago. Man created the Sciences & Religions .. and made is free to think, believe say & do as he wants with data & evidence from the Sciences or what the Bible says about existence. What you are failing to see here is free will & nature of man. We can believe what we want, and our nature is evil & will corrupt what is good if we do not have a strong moral/ethical guide to do good not evil. Man has not been moral & ethical with the sciences or religion.

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramaraksha01 Fear not. The day will come when all religions go extinct. And that day can not come soon enough.

  • @mugsofmirth8101

    @mugsofmirth8101

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Science seeks to answer questions ... religion says it knows the answers" Meanwhile those representing the so-called "scientific community" claim that "the science is settled" and if you dare question anything they say (even when it contradicts what they just said) then you are deemed a pariah and quickly smeared as "irrational" and "anti-science" (the postmodern politically correct euphemisms for heretic and blasphemer)

  • @dan23563

    @dan23563

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Andre_XX I pray that you are correct. (See what I did there?) ;)

  • @esorse
    @esorse2 жыл бұрын

    If god is omnipotent, accessible exclusively by faith and you have faith, how can you be sure that you are obtaining information by either perception, or reason, when doing science?

  • @terryboland3816

    @terryboland3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    I could never be certain that I'm "obtaining information by either perception, or reason, when doing science." I've dreamt dreams where the laws of logic have not applied.

  • @Xtr33mm
    @Xtr33mm2 жыл бұрын

    Why not put them on same.place.

  • @valsarff6525
    @valsarff65252 жыл бұрын

    Both science and religion foster a belief in other people's beliefs. The covid pandemic was a blessing, in that it taught us the foolishness of trusting the experts.

  • @roqsteady5290

    @roqsteady5290

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except it didn't, it wasn't the covid deniers and anti vaxxers that came up with the vaccines, was it? But maybe you are one of those yourself.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Any time you want to stop using all the benefits of science that would be great I am sure when you get sick or your loved ones get sick, you stay home and pray You use the internet, you tube, drive a car, have a home with electricity, use a cell phone, take a flight? All brought to you by Science Talk about being ungrateful

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    2 жыл бұрын

    Genesis was written 3400 years ago ... and clearly stated Man( an intelligence) has free will to think, believe, say & do as he wants, can make things with purpose, rules, design, function ... and has an evil Nature that will corrupt or pervert what is good UNLESS he has a strong MORAL & ethical guide( ie God) to do good not evil. Remove Judaism & Christianity from World History and the Human Race would now be extinct. Only an intelligence makes Laws and things that contain information that can be extract & used by an intelligence. Science & Religions rely on Laws. An imperfect intelligence made the Sciences & Religions which are simply systems of belief in existence. Man is free to think, believe, say & do as he wants with the sciences & Religions. Man has known God for thousands of years about facts about all Laws & knowledge. Thus is the Nature of man.

  • @keithrelyea7997

    @keithrelyea7997

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you get your shots?

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    So tell us then, who do YOU trust?

  • @nyworker
    @nyworker2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus is divine and human Something can be a wave and particle ----> Comes out of same human brain

  • @hasleema.k.a.bhaukal6140

    @hasleema.k.a.bhaukal6140

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bullshit. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hasleema.k.a.bhaukal6140 The first line? I agree.

  • @jacovawernett3077
    @jacovawernett30772 жыл бұрын

    Yeshua of Nazareth and the Buddha are best friends. The Buddha described what is bigger than himself as Yeshua did. Sacrificial, enlightened, kind. The similarities are infinite. Cause of death, different.

  • @Tintunabulation
    @Tintunabulation2 жыл бұрын

    If you don’t insist on others sharing your faith without providing any observable evidence to corroborate the legitimacy of your faith, no problem.

  • @PaulHoward108

    @PaulHoward108

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like with the abiogenesis conjecture, which is generally assumed true as a precursor to evolutionary theory?

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulHoward108 I never knew that. Thanks. If you can reference Jerry Coyne, Dick Dawkins, and Neil Schubin saying that, I would be grateful. BTW they are the trinity of reality.

  • @PaulHoward108

    @PaulHoward108

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VaughanMcCue I couldn't care less about what they say.

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulHoward108 I had no idea you were an authority on abiogenesis and its connection with evolutionary theory. I will read your famous citations sometime. Thanks for your interest and contribution

  • @PaulHoward108

    @PaulHoward108

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VaughanMcCue Nobody is an authority on abiogenesis, like nobody is an authority on leprechauns.

  • @theloniousMac
    @theloniousMac2 жыл бұрын

    Science and religion are utterly different. Science tests what it can “observe.” Religion is based on faith. It doesn’t require proof, only that you believe. Both are important, but applying science to religion is silly at best. I have never understood why religious people are obsessed with proving their faith scientifically which is impossible.

  • @20july1944

    @20july1944

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can explain it: we theists are seeking to reach you atheists in our common ground of science -- which we both recognize and respect.

  • @dongshengdi773

    @dongshengdi773

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is a grade school understanding of science and religion . Science , in the bigger scheme of things , is actually a philosophy , therefore , similar to religion . Both are subjective (NOT objective) based on personal interpretations of the evidences provided . Scientific Faith . scientific consensus. Nothing has ever been proven in Science. Religion is not fiction . Religion teaches Morality and Spirituality , they are not fiction . They are called moral and religious truths . Belief in some higher power is not blind faith; it is based on Reason. There are also many theologians (Religious Studies) who earn Phd's just like other sciences. Science and Religion-Spirituality are philosophies on both sides of the same COIN. (The old name of Science was the Philosophy of Nature, and when you get a PhD degree in Physics or whatever field of study, it means Doctor of Philosophy.) … Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other.

  • @francesco5581

    @francesco5581

    2 жыл бұрын

    i think you start from some wrong presumptions. 1) Science is a tool to gain knowledge, is not a faith (scientism is). Materialism can be opposed to spirituality/religion, not science 2) One can decide/search if reality have a meaning, a purpose, or not. The answers that one tries to build will carry him to one of the two paths. 3) So spirituality is a path that when it gets institutionalized become a religion.

  • @Tzimiskes3506

    @Tzimiskes3506

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah the dawkins type atheist... Gotta love em.

  • @theloniousMac

    @theloniousMac

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dongshengdi773 No, science is not a philosophy. That is a confused as hell interpretation. Science is a methodology of observing and discovering the physical world. Philosophy seeks to answer questions that science cannot. Religion is more akin to philosophy. Science does not seek to tell you why we are here. Science looks at only the fact that we are and seeks to discover how. Science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. It is beyond the capability of science. Science is not faith. Faith is belief without proof or evidence. When there is no evidence, science shuts down like a car without fuel. If religion says God created the reality that you observe and test, the only thing science can say in return is, “That may be true. I have no way of testing it.” Science does guess at thing, but the guessing is based on reasonable conjecture, and science does not declare the conjecture to be true until testing proves it to be so.

  • @ivanbeshkov1718
    @ivanbeshkov1718 Жыл бұрын

    Overly sympathetic interviewer fails to ask challenging questions: what motivates you? How much time do you spend on religion, how much on science? How old does a person have to be to go to hell? Do ten year old atheists burn in hell? Is Anne Frank in hell while Hitler might be in heaven, as Protestant and Catholic broadcasters have repeatedly said? Which wars have you openly disapproved of? No religious college will issue science degrees to students who reply to all questions "God did it". Religionists themselves put science above religion, even as they claim the opposite. Interviewer either loves religionists or gives them "enough rope". Neither is praiseworthy. Face to face is not a good format, as it intimidates interviewers.

  • @michaelobrien5891
    @michaelobrien58912 жыл бұрын

    God is the fate we deny by believing in free will. We encounter so many different problems by believing that we control things here. We also become proud and get into trouble in so many ways from our pride.

  • @XenomorphTerror

    @XenomorphTerror

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hubris is a thing, yeah. Although - I think, therefore I am. Syntactical freedom is enough to reason we do have a will, a subjective experience driven by one mind, in one flesh suit. I have only an internal experiences. There are a finite set of outcomes; therefore, there are finite decisions you could make whilst alive. So yeah, we all have a fate. That doesn't prove, or disprove Devine existence.

  • @mrshankerbillletmein491
    @mrshankerbillletmein4912 жыл бұрын

    Scientific discoveries as time goes on seem to me to point towards a Creator of life and the universe how we interpret these discoveries depends on our preconceptions it seems to me. The matierialist often sees a natural explanation when the theist sees the supernatural.

  • @sciencefirst7880

    @sciencefirst7880

    2 жыл бұрын

    To say we don't understand the science so it must be God which is what you're saying here is lazy. It's lazy science. In every part of science we continually see explanations for the cosmos that do not require a creator.

  • @bigboyshit1

    @bigboyshit1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hard to say I’m my opinion. But there’s no doubt any super powerful creator hasn’t chosen alliance with any of todays religions

  • @someguy5438

    @someguy5438

    2 жыл бұрын

    3 thousand years ago almost every human explanations for natural phenomenon was "God" we can now explain most of those phenomena with a natural explanation. Can you name one observed phenomenon that has gone from a natural explanation to a supernatural one?

  • @akhilanwerm

    @akhilanwerm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Natural explanation are reliable and simple than super natural explanation. How does super natural explanation add any value to our knowledge. Super natural explanation commits gap of God fallacy.

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. Man is an intelligence that is free to think, believe, say & do what he wants with the data & laws from the sciences. But we also know from History that Man's nature is evil & he will corrupt & pervert what is good, UNLESS he has a strong MORAL & ETHICAL compass to do good & right, not evil & wrong. Imperfect man .... made the Sciences & Religions, ... and with his free will follows them accordingly. Faith is simply a firm BELIEF in something or someone, with or without evidence for that belief. Science relies completely on the LAWS of Nature for an INTELLIGENCE to explain natural phenomena in an objective, logical, rational, ETHICAL manner and acquire new INFORMATION or knowledge about the Universe. Only an INTELLIGENCE makes Laws, information & knowledge. Everything in the Universe obeys the LAWS of Nature & have information that can be extracted & used by an INTELLIGENCE. Again. Man is an INTELLIGENCE that is free to think, believe, say & do what he wants with the .... sciences & religions.

  • @chayanbosu3293
    @chayanbosu32932 жыл бұрын

    Science and relegion are two different fields .Relegion consists of devotion , prayer , yoga and believe system where as science consists of observations, experiments, logic and also reasoable faith at some extent .But science can never be deal with moral truth , good , bad , love , kindness etc.So we should not mix up these two fields.

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah? Try me- At the very most fundamental level of everything is an Underlying and Permeating Field of Information. Thinking about "Nothingness" is still creating Information / "The Information of Nothingness". Even if at some point in Time "Nothing" existed, that Information of Nothingness was still "Something". The Something being the Information. Therefor it is a Paradox. All things exist simultaneously with No things existing. The Field of Information generates all of Existence. The thought of doing something always occurs before the act of doing it. So, Action follows Thought. Thought follows Consciousness. Consciousness = the Infinite, Permeating and Underlying Field of Quantum Information which generates All Existence while Existence resides within the Field while having a bit of the Field inside of anything created by the Field. That "bit of Field" is individual Consciousness. But never forget it is only a piece of the Infinite Consciousness. All existence is an Excitation on a Field. You, Me, Dog, Cat, Car, Truck, Building, Dirt, Mud, Grass, Soda, Water, Earth, Universe, Brains, Toys, Burgers, Good, Evil, Love, Hate, Hot, Cold, Happy, Sad etc- Are all individualized, personified emanations from the Field/Source. Each of us were made by Source. Exist within Source. & have Source within us. But none of us ARE the Source. The Source = Eternal Consciousness/God/Akash. All other gods in existence, all angels and fallen angels, demons, monsters, cute things, nasty things, are all individual excitations within the Field. Everything is a Personalized, Individualized Emanation of and from the Field. Even me typing this comment started as a Thought within my Mind before becoming a physical manifestation on a screen so that my internal thoughts can be seen by others. The Thoughts originate within Consciousness. Consciousness produces the Information. Consciousness exists outside the boundaries of Spacetime while also existing within Spacetime, creating our 3rd density hologram reality, which is nothing more than excitations within an Eternal Field of Consciousness.

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is moral truth?

  • @chayanbosu3293

    @chayanbosu3293

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TurinTuramber Abusing a girl child is good or bad ? Cheating money from a poor man is good or bad ? Taking food from a hungry child is good or bad?

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chayanbosu3293 Can you define good and bad first.

  • @chayanbosu3293

    @chayanbosu3293

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TurinTuramber God is good.

  • @alvarocordova3664
    @alvarocordova36642 жыл бұрын

    Science is based on evidence. Religion supports myths and fantasies.Truth vs lies.

  • @ujjwalbhattarai8670
    @ujjwalbhattarai86702 жыл бұрын

    How old were scientists when they measured time dilation? At what age did people and scientists feel after measuring? What difference did the scientists find between people and them? Did a second turn into a minute? Did a minute turn into hours? hour in a day? day by month? months in the year? year in year?? From people's observation, from calculations, to machinery equipment....everything in nature had changed at that time?? If time dilation is true in Machine, Equipment, Motion, Mass, Gravity... then it should be. Saying proof in paper and artificial machine does not change anything in nature

  • @antirealist

    @antirealist

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antirealist 👆

  • @paolocalvaruso182
    @paolocalvaruso1822 жыл бұрын

    It's a different language

  • @paolocalvaruso182

    @paolocalvaruso182

    2 жыл бұрын

    Left and right hemispheres

  • @dongshengdi773

    @dongshengdi773

    2 жыл бұрын

    Religion teaches Morality and Spirituality , they are not fiction . They are called moral and religious truths . Belief in some higher power is not blind faith; it is based on Reason. There are also many theologians (Religious Studies) who earn Phd's just like other sciences. Science and Religion-Spirituality are philosophies on both sides of the same COIN. (The old name of Science was the Philosophy of Nature, and when you get a PhD degree in Physics or whatever field of study, it means Doctor of Philosophy.) … … Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other. head and tail of a coin . mind and body physical and spiritual etc etc etc

  • @dongshengdi773

    @dongshengdi773

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paolocalvaruso182 head and tail of a coin . mind and body physical and spiritual

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dongshengdi773 You desperately want to throw religion in with science to gain credibility and I can't blame you for trying. Spirits, souls and morality are all superstitious wu wu and like other supernatural ghost stories can be as readily dismissed as they were conjured.

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the very most fundamental level of everything is an Underlying and Permeating Field of Information. Thinking about "Nothingness" is still creating Information / "The Information of Nothingness". Even if at some point in Time "Nothing" existed, that Information of Nothingness was still "Something". The Something being the Information. Therefor it is a Paradox. All things exist simultaneously with No things existing. The Field of Information generates all of Existence. The thought of doing something always occurs before the act of doing it. So, Action follows Thought. Thought follows Consciousness. Consciousness = the Infinite, Permeating and Underlying Field of Quantum Information which generates All Existence while Existence resides within the Field while having a bit of the Field inside of anything created by the Field. That "bit of Field" is individual Consciousness. But never forget it is only a piece of the Infinite Consciousness. All existence is an Excitation on a Field. You, Me, Dog, Cat, Car, Truck, Building, Dirt, Mud, Grass, Soda, Water, Earth, Universe, Brains, Toys, Burgers, Good, Evil, Love, Hate, Hot, Cold, Happy, Sad etc- Are all individualized, personified emanations from the Field/Source. Each of us were made by Source. Exist within Source. & have Source within us. But none of us ARE the Source. The Source = Eternal Consciousness/God/Akash. All other gods in existence, all angels and fallen angels, demons, monsters, cute things, nasty things, are all individual excitations within the Field. Everything is a Personalized, Individualized Emanation of and from the Field. Even me typing this comment started as a Thought within my Mind before becoming a physical manifestation on a screen so that my internal thoughts can be seen by others. The Thoughts originate within Consciousness. Consciousness produces the Information. Consciousness exists outside the boundaries of Spacetime while also existing within Spacetime, creating our 3rd density hologram reality, which is nothing more than excitations within an Eternal Field of Consciousness.

  • @tadmorrison
    @tadmorrison2 жыл бұрын

    Here’s the way it works, in my view. Let’s have a discussion about ‘refrigerator language’. You may ask what I mean by the term. Certainly, refrigerators and languages do exist, but what happens when we combine these words? You may say that the kind of conversations people have about refrigerators is what it means, and that’s real. You may say that refrigerator language is the kind of speech we use in the kitchen. Again, all right. You may never have seen or heard anybody practice this to a degree that merits specialized language, but you have no problem believing it. But, if somebody means refrigerator language is an actual language spoken by refrigerators, we have another discussion completely. There is no evidence that refrigerators can speak, and it’s a little bit silly to claim they can, let alone to base your life around it. In the same way, talking about the soul of man is harmless enough when we use the term to identify the sensation of consciousness. But, if we are talking about the man and the soul being of separate substance and endurance, we’re saying that refrigerators can talk. This is the dividing line between science and religion

  • @TurinTuramber
    @TurinTuramber2 жыл бұрын

    Apples and oranges on two very different shelves. Science is seeks to understand our reality and religion just claims to fill in any gaps. If you wanted to accurately compare something to religion I would suggest astrology, voodoo or homeopathy.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    2 жыл бұрын

    *"Apples and oranges on two very different shelves."* ... So are right and left, positive and negative, black and white, light and darkness, and everything else that serves to define our existence. You cannot comprehend (conceive) one without the presence of the other. *Side Note:* _Apples_ and _Oranges_ are both fruits. Both grow on trees, thrive in a warm environment, serve as a natural source of vitamin C, have a protective outer skin, a pulpy middle, and a seedy core. If we got rid of apples or got rid of oranges, the world would be a lesser place!

  • @someguy5438
    @someguy54382 жыл бұрын

    One is a conclusion looking for proof and the other is science.

  • @wicekwickowski3798
    @wicekwickowski37982 жыл бұрын

    "religion is full of surprises written by Christians of the belief that Jesus is both divine and human is an even more unusual mixture than" .... -What an unusual mixture? It's obvious! You only need to give a definition of God. But that's not all, because according to the Bible, only man can be God, only man! And there can be a thousand people, and even a million, and each of them can be God and, then, in harmony with the one and only God of the Bible! -There is no contradiction in this. And to make it even more interesting, Jesus himself said that he was the son of a Man-God, the creator of the world. Jesus is God not because someone believes it just because he has proved it and it agrees with the definition of the God of the Bible. A separate topic is faith in the truthfulness of the works he has done. Believe it or not.

  • @monotheist7583
    @monotheist75832 жыл бұрын

    Religion is from God. Science is the understanding and interpretations of the system by humans created by God. How is it possible for human that he can completely and accurately understand it?

  • @dongshengdi773

    @dongshengdi773

    2 жыл бұрын

    Humans can't seem to see that We have created Simulations in a computer . We can create Simulations that can run themselves with their own free will . And We can just Observe them for our Entertainment . Sim City . Alexander Pruss formulates the argument as follows: 1. Every contingent fact has an explanation. 2. There is a contingent fact that includes all other contingent facts. 3. Therefore, there is an explanation of this fact. 4. This explanation must involve a necessary being. 5. This necessary being is God. (Creator, Designer, Programmer, Initiator, First Cause, Unmoved Mover)

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alternative hypothesis. The thousands of religions, extinct and active were created by men to dupe other people into doing their bidding. It is perpetuated through superstition and indoctrination of the young, god is just a plot device.

  • @theloniousMac

    @theloniousMac

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dongshengdi773 careful, you are unintentionally arguing that we live in a simulation theory, and simulation theory is so reasonable that it leads me to believe none of this is real anyway. Your statement is not unreasonable, but if you look at it from the computer simulation idea, at limes 4 and 5 you are in a loop. God is the explanation and the explanation now must involve a necessary being. And over and over and over…

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the very most fundamental level of everything is an Underlying and Permeating Field of Information. Thinking about "Nothingness" is still creating Information / "The Information of Nothingness". Even if at some point in Time "Nothing" existed, that Information of Nothingness was still "Something". The Something being the Information. Therefor it is a Paradox. All things exist simultaneously with No things existing. The Field of Information generates all of Existence. The thought of doing something always occurs before the act of doing it. So, Action follows Thought. Thought follows Consciousness. Consciousness = the Infinite, Permeating and Underlying Field of Quantum Information which generates All Existence while Existence resides within the Field while having a bit of the Field inside of anything created by the Field. That "bit of Field" is individual Consciousness. But never forget it is only a piece of the Infinite Consciousness. All existence is an Excitation on a Field. You, Me, Dog, Cat, Car, Truck, Building, Dirt, Mud, Grass, Soda, Water, Earth, Universe, Brains, Toys, Burgers, Good, Evil, Love, Hate, Hot, Cold, Happy, Sad etc- Are all individualized, personified emanations from the Field/Source. Each of us were made by Source. Exist within Source. & have Source within us. But none of us ARE the Source. The Source = Eternal Consciousness/God/Akash. All other gods in existence, all angels and fallen angels, demons, monsters, cute things, nasty things, are all individual excitations within the Field. Everything is a Personalized, Individualized Emanation of and from the Field. Even me typing this comment started as a Thought within my Mind before becoming a physical manifestation on a screen so that my internal thoughts can be seen by others. The Thoughts originate within Consciousness. Consciousness produces the Information. Consciousness exists outside the boundaries of Spacetime while also existing within Spacetime, creating our 3rd density hologram reality, which is nothing more than excitations within an Eternal Field of Consciousness.

  • @kpllc4209

    @kpllc4209

    2 жыл бұрын

    Religion is just OLD science sociology and psychology.

  • @ujjwalbhattarai8670
    @ujjwalbhattarai86702 жыл бұрын

    Twin brothers who are 10 years old, if one starts running around the stadium at light speed in a year and the other stays there and sees their brother running in a year. In a year, both become 11 years old. There is never 50 years in a year. The sun does not rise and set differently for them. Time dilation doesn't exist in speed, gravity, mass acceleration,... anything. Time dilation doesn't exist in motion, mass, acceleration, gravity... or anything. Nature clock is the same for all and for everything. Either at rest or in motion bodies time exist similar. Muons is also wrong. For everyone and everything natural is equal. By saying proof nature nothing is changing with light speed self. A day never changes in a year. And a year never turns into a day. Time dilation is not a fact. It's all about imagination. Here the speed of light exists, nothing is changing. Writing in paper and saying mathematical proof does not change anything in nature. Everything is about imagination. Time dilation is wrong 100% wrong. infinitely wrong. One should never turn 50 in a year, it's all in the imagination. Time dilation between truth and fact is wrong. Truth and proof are natural. Time dilation does not exist in nature by saying proof from an artificial machine. Nothing changes in nature by saying proof. Nature will never change by saying that it has been tested or is testing by an artificial machine, clock..... nature is equal for everyone and nature self is proof. If you spin the wheel of the bike infinitely times faster than the light speed. A day in a year is never going to change and a year is never going to change to a day for whatever reason. Hence time dilation is wrong. A second never turns into minutes, a minute never changes to an hour, an hour never a day, a day never a month, a month never a year, a year never a 50 years..... Saying proof by mathematical calculation does not change anything in nature. Nature is same for all. Time dilation doesn't exist.

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does exist. You're completely missing the point of Relativity.

  • @TurinTuramber

    @TurinTuramber

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zaw2654 What they lack in understanding relativity they make up for with gratuitous sentence spacing.

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TurinTuramber lol

  • @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zaw2654 relativity is wrong. Time dilation doesn't exist. I didn't missed anything.

  • @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    @ujjwalbhattarai8670

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zaw2654 How old were scientists when they measured time dilation? At what age did people and scientists feel after measuring? What difference did the scientists find between people and them? Did a second turn into a minute? Did a minute turn into hours? hour in a day? day by month? months in the year? year in year?? From people's observation, from calculations, to machinery equipment....everything in nature had changed at that time?? If time dilation is true in Machine, Equipment, Motion, Mass, Gravity... then it should be. Saying proof in paper and artificial machine does not change anything in nature

  • @rizwanrafeek3811
    @rizwanrafeek38112 жыл бұрын

    According to John Polkinghorne Jesus is 'god' and a man same as in Hinduism, Sikhism, thousand more 'hims' religions belief. However according to Jesus himself that Jesus himself cannot do anything out of his own free will at John:5-30. Jesus himself tells that the "Father" is greater than he himself. John 14:28 Jesus himself refused the titled being called a "good master". Luke 18:19 And there are hundreds of similar verses can be found in the NT. This is the intellectual dishonesty entire Christians World is made up, entire Christians World is in the trap of Satan, they cannot see it, just the way Hindus, Buddhist, Sikhs and thousand more "hism" religions followers cannot see it.

  • @rizwanrafeek3811

    @rizwanrafeek3811

    2 жыл бұрын

    If one takes someone else in the place of God of Abraham for worship that sin itself directed to God Himself for which there is no forgiveness for such souls, these souls will be default out as eternal condemn. Satan wins for eternal condemn souls. Quran 4:116 Allah forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right).

  • @pearlsforswine9624

    @pearlsforswine9624

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus also said nobody can know the father, your prophets were just mental ill.

  • @rizwanrafeek3811

    @rizwanrafeek3811

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pearlsforswine9624 _"Jesus also said nobody can know the father "_ You cannot know the God, whereas Muslims' have the God's words in the Quran. The Quran is God's spoken words in first person narrative.

  • @rizwanrafeek3811

    @rizwanrafeek3811

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pearlsforswine9624 You cannot deny my post and you cannot refute my post.

  • @rizwanrafeek3811

    @rizwanrafeek3811

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pearlsforswine9624 Your NT is ordinary Tom's and Jerry's words whereas Quran is God's words. So you don't know who God is and who God is not and you will never know who God is and who God is not with your Tom and Jerry's words in the NT. No learned Jews can deny the notion that Quran came from no other than the God of Abraham.

  • @penultimatename6677
    @penultimatename66772 жыл бұрын

    Science looks at how things work. Religion looks for purpose. Since there is no purpose. Religion cannot describe the universe. Religion is based on beliefs with no connection with reality.

  • @mugsofmirth8101

    @mugsofmirth8101

    2 жыл бұрын

    What evidence can you show to support your claim that "there is no purpose" ?

  • @penultimatename6677

    @penultimatename6677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mugsofmirth8101 Religion is based on faith and not on any scientific fact. The lack of evidence is in the science. Even if there was a god. Why a personal god? Why not many gods? It's based on fantasy and wishful thinking. A god is required for purpose. The universe does not care about us. It is more meaningful for us to find our own purpose in life. Purpose coming from a god has no meaning.

  • @A.--.
    @A.--.2 жыл бұрын

    Science is only good to get a Job for few decades. Islam gives you an everlasting Reward in the Hereafter if lived out correctly with evidences. Other Religions are deviated forms of Islam or man-made theories without evidences.

  • @grijzekijker

    @grijzekijker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not true, islam is a false religion, that does not lead you to the Kingdom of Heaven.

  • @sciencefirst7880

    @sciencefirst7880

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's your opinion.

  • @A.--.

    @A.--.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sciencefirst7880 it's my conclusion after years of study, critique and hashing through evidences. I was an atheist.

  • @grijzekijker

    @grijzekijker

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@A.--. Abraham had two sons, Isaac and Ishmael. According to Biblical evidence, Ishmael was the oldest, but from the concubine Hagar(bastard son). Isaac was the legitimate son to whom the promise of the everlasting Covenant was given. Religious 'evidence' is based on texts and the course of history.

  • @A.--.

    @A.--.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@grijzekijker who did Abraham fight (and win) to capture a Concubine?....no one, Hagar's (may Peace be upon her) was not a Concubine. Proofs! As I said, all these biblical ideas are deviations of lost (destroyed with the 1st Temple by Navakanezar) Truths that were corrected by Quran.

  • @onsenguy
    @onsenguy2 жыл бұрын

    in summary, scientific facts are what we _know,_ religious views are what we _think_ we know.

  • @VaughanMcCue

    @VaughanMcCue

    2 жыл бұрын

    And pretending to know what we do not know, done with great authority.

  • @terryboland3816

    @terryboland3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's somewhat misleading. The essence of science is that it is provisional, in the sense that we are open to rejecting what we previously believed. Some people may have thought they 'knew the fact' that parity was conserved when particles interacted but that transpired not to be a fact! So it would be more accurate to say: our beliefs about science may contain some true statements, but we don't know which, if any, those are.

  • @onsenguy

    @onsenguy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@terryboland3816 you're right that it's provisional, that it is open to modification or corrections when new facts arise. but at any given time, what we can call _knowledge_ falls under the umbrella of science, using the scientific method of inference, observation, and induction. religious views however, are typically held dogmatically and causes us to close our minds to any fact that doesn't suit our tastes and prejudices, or whatever seems to contradict what is contained in our holy book.

  • @terryboland3816

    @terryboland3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@onsenguy OK, so you'd include false beliefs as being part of knowledge? Or does 'knowledge' have to refer to true statements to be correctly described as such?

  • @onsenguy

    @onsenguy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@terryboland3816 could you give an example or two of "false beliefs"? I guess what I'm saying is that as long there is compelling evidence for believing something, then it could be called knowledge. For example, the bulk of our current understanding of astronomy is knowledge, but in the future a new type of powerful telescope could reveal that we are incorrect about several things which would modify the science of astronomy and the new information would then be called knowledge, with our old, incorrect views being discarded.

  • @erico5865
    @erico58652 жыл бұрын

    Why you claim to be a scientist yet entertain one of the most pervasive delusions is telling.

  • @parkjammer
    @parkjammer2 жыл бұрын

    Science and religion think differently... because science requires actual "thinking" and religion requires idiocy and gullibility in the absence of anything remotely resembling "thinking".

  • @elgatofelix8917

    @elgatofelix8917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your woke religion of scientism requires levels of idiocy which are unprecedented in the history of mankind.

  • @elgatofelix8917

    @elgatofelix8917

    2 жыл бұрын

    FYI the Father of Science Sir Isaac Newton was no atheist and in fact was a devout Christian.

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elgatofelix8917 So what? Everybody was religious back then.

  • @mugsofmirth8101

    @mugsofmirth8101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Andre_XX What evidence do you have to support that claim?

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mugsofmirth8101 Religion infused everything 350 years ago. It is history.

  • @Bandit19990
    @Bandit199902 жыл бұрын

    Because science is right and religion is wrong.

  • @elgatofelix8917

    @elgatofelix8917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another adherent of scientism who is clearly ignorant of the concept of falsifiability 👆

  • @Andre_XX

    @Andre_XX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elgatofelix8917 There is no such thing as "scientism". It is merely a term invented by religious nutjobs in a feeble attempt to be derogatory towards science. And their devoted band of acolytes spew it out from their distorted little brains ad nauseam. Like you did.

  • @sciencefirst7880
    @sciencefirst78802 жыл бұрын

    Absolute rubbish!!!

  • @owencampbell4947
    @owencampbell49472 жыл бұрын

    Humans are lead by their mentalities embedded in their conscious minds. There's no way to change this nature unless we study the core of its origin. We'll always find differences due to the mentality problem that leads to contradiction, belief, and devotion.

  • @terryboland3816

    @terryboland3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    Led!

  • @owencampbell4947

    @owencampbell4947

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@terryboland3816 thanks buddy, some dont want to accept the right word

  • @chayanbosu3293
    @chayanbosu32932 жыл бұрын

    Science and relegion are two different fields .Relegion consists of devotion , prayer , yoga and believe system where as science consists of observations, experiments, logic and also reasoable faith at some extent .But science can never be deal with moral truth , good , bad , love , kindness etc.So we should not mix up these two fields.

  • @zaw2654

    @zaw2654

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can only come to the Truth by combining Science with Spirituality and Religion.. --> At the very most fundamental level of everything is an Underlying and Permeating Field of Information. Thinking about "Nothingness" is still creating Information / "The Information of Nothingness". Even if at some point in Time "Nothing" existed, that Information of Nothingness was still "Something". The Something being the Information. Therefor it is a Paradox. All things exist simultaneously with No things existing. The Field of Information generates all of Existence. The thought of doing something always occurs before the act of doing it. So, Action follows Thought. Thought follows Consciousness. Consciousness = the Infinite, Permeating and Underlying Field of Quantum Information which generates All Existence while Existence resides within the Field while having a bit of the Field inside of anything created by the Field. That "bit of Field" is individual Consciousness. But never forget it is only a piece of the Infinite Consciousness. All existence is an Excitation on a Field. You, Me, Dog, Cat, Car, Truck, Building, Dirt, Mud, Grass, Soda, Water, Earth, Universe, Brains, Toys, Burgers, Good, Evil, Love, Hate, Hot, Cold, Happy, Sad etc- Are all individualized, personified emanations from the Field/Source. Each of us were made by Source. Exist within Source. & have Source within us. But none of us ARE the Source. The Source = Eternal Consciousness/God/Akash. All other gods in existence, all angels and fallen angels, demons, monsters, cute things, nasty things, are all individual excitations within the Field. Everything is a Personalized, Individualized Emanation of and from the Field. Even me typing this comment started as a Thought within my Mind before becoming a physical manifestation on a screen so that my internal thoughts can be seen by others. The Thoughts originate within Consciousness. Consciousness produces the Information. Consciousness exists outside the boundaries of Spacetime while also existing within Spacetime, creating our 3rd density hologram reality, which is nothing more than excitations within an Eternal Field of Consciousness.

  • @roqsteady5290

    @roqsteady5290

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, religion can't deal with moral truth either, that is the field of moral philosophy.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Moral Truth? The top religions of the day have much blood on their hands & continue to preach hate & division. We live in a world where we talk of bringing people together, not to discriminate but the glorious exception is religion that continues to OPENLY preach division and hate I am told that as a Hindu I am headed to hell - billions of us - Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists - women, children, even babies, entire families - will be set apart like Jews in Nazi Germany and will be dumped into gas chambers in hell! AND THEY CAN PROMOTE THESE NAZI IDEAS OPENLY! Might makes Right and that is the sad Truth

  • @sciencefirst7880

    @sciencefirst7880

    2 жыл бұрын

    Medical science says vitamin D from sunlight is vital for good health. Making a woman live in a black cloth bag prevents her from getting needed sunlight. It's immoral to deprive her of that based on religion. So...yes, I think science can answer moral questions. Btw...as a scientist myself I can tell you we have zero faith. I don't even have faith in the scientific method because it's carried out by humans. So, please don't say we use faith.

  • @chayanbosu3293

    @chayanbosu3293

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sciencefirst7880 If you do not mind pls tell about your scientific carrier.