That speaker can barely string a sentence together, let alone understand what Mr McDonnell is rightly asking.

@Stefan_W69

3 ай бұрын

Yes that is indeed shocking for a "speaker", sheeesh.

@scalarnai

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 clueless too

@HelenaMikas

3 ай бұрын

Westminster and Parliament in the hands of two hopeless speakers ONE MORE GO !!!!!! is she fit to be there NO

@collier8931

3 ай бұрын

She did the dentist contract debacle.

@holycannoli64

3 ай бұрын

She's clueless. Like most of the house.

Does this woman actually know her role in Parliament? Utterly pathetic response to an intelligent question

@salsabila786

3 ай бұрын

Absolute clown but she's a friend of Israel, she's paid to stop any actions

@MrSas27

3 ай бұрын

Look at the state of her

@thirdeyeblind6369

3 ай бұрын

She knows and is being deliberately obtuse about this.

@salsabila786

3 ай бұрын

@thirdeyeblind6369 she's a friend if Israel, sad that our parliament is bought by a foreign state and using it's powers to make the UK complicit in a genocide

@khushsubhani8205

3 ай бұрын

She is in a right mess!

She's clueless.

@BetyarPali

3 ай бұрын

She is likely on Israel's payroll.

@scalarnai

3 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought, fumbling about utterly clueless.

@johnj4860

3 ай бұрын

Keep in mind McDonnel is a supporter of Jeremy the terrorists friend?

@burtlangoustine1

3 ай бұрын

She? I thought it was the pimlico plumbers bloke...

@auntiesemite9295

2 ай бұрын

INTENTIONALLY clueless.

Absolute incompetence...the mother of all parliaments is a fool

@xXDeathbysnusnuXx

3 ай бұрын

Bought and paid off.

@fahimyasin6511

3 ай бұрын

It is not incompetence. It is corruption

@petronellaflorenca4920

3 ай бұрын

Corrupt woman 😅😅😅😅😅its a jokes shamefull she is6😢😮

@Demun1649

3 ай бұрын

We need a new Oliver Cromwell. Scrap the monarchy, the monarchist Parliament, and re-establish the Republic we enjoyed for 11 years back in the 1600s.

John McDonnell is quite right in seeking independent legal advice and that it should be sought by the Speaker on their behalf.

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

If it’s important, a grown up will ask for it

@alexgaras1573

3 ай бұрын

I agree, but I will say it is far to late for that. They are already balls deep in this genocide, and it looks like they are trying to f***k their way out of it. They will all be charged individually and they won't get away with it, because their pocket legal system will be on trial alongside them.

Asking the government to clarify their legal position on arms sales to Israel is like asking kids to mark their own home work.

@billyandrew

3 ай бұрын

The kids would be more honest.

@denisewan1121

2 ай бұрын

@ billyandrew: The kids might not know the true facts, but the government does, and ignores them. Same goes for the leadership of the supposed "opposition."

How is parliament meant to run effectively and efficiently when we have a speaker and deputy speaker like this? They’re more useless than a chocolate teapot.

Thank you, John McDonnell, for standing for justice!!

this is so embarrassing

Maybe John should get legal advice and issue a warrant for the government’s arrest.

@thecat5497

3 ай бұрын

😂that's the way to go. Seek your own legal advice. Trying to convince these puppets is hopeless. You just going to go around in square circles.

@user-eg7wi8xr2f

3 ай бұрын

To a system that doesn't deal in justice, only revenue and protection rackets

@gabydewilde

3 ай бұрын

if only to see them squirm some more.

When the Speaker can’t understand a request, let alone speak… We are Royally screwed.

@sigma7920

3 ай бұрын

Not yet , however those in Gaza are truly *ucked 😢

@michaelfayombo6370

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Demun1649

3 ай бұрын

ALL Royalty screws the humans.

@megarensmusic

3 ай бұрын

She totally understood.

A speaker who cant string a sentence together without 50 uhm's...perfectly sums up the situation

MR John McDonell is a man with a good heart. God bless you!!!

Great to see John McDonnell standing for democracy & what the World believes. Rubbish standards of Speakership’s. Completely sold out & not up to par

Good lord! This woman couldn't be trusted to make the best judgement as a lollipop lady, never mind as a parliamentary speaker!

The world knows YOU ARE ALL COMPLICIT

We haven't lived in a true democracy for a long time now.

@xXDeathbysnusnuXx

3 ай бұрын

Probably not since the first invention by the Athenians, even they understood the greatest threat to any Democracy is corruption.

Its sounds like the speaker doesn't know her own job...

Deputy speaker needs to leave that i$ra£l lobby group as does the speaker.

@mikeable100

3 ай бұрын

the speakers father was one of the co-founders of labour friends of Israel

The speakers in parliament seem to be biased. That is undemocratic

The deputy speaker is in breach of parliament, it is her duty to seek legal advice when requested by an MP

@MD-nv7jx

3 ай бұрын

The speaker and deputy speaker are all a joke. They follow the rules when they want. The whole parliamentary system need serious reform.

@suzann2531

3 ай бұрын

Didn’t you hear what she said. She wasn’t given notice of the question so she was unable to seek advice on a legal point that he raised.

@peterwilliams5669

3 ай бұрын

Well she has now heard the question three times and still hasn't agreed to obtain the legal advice for Parliament. A majority of the electorate want the supply of further weapons to Israel halted because of the ICJ interim Judgement. Since the Government is ignoring the ICJ; McDonnell's request is both justified and reasonable.@@suzann2531

@annenunney9907

3 ай бұрын

The government are not operating by the law over the war crimes she is just as bad as the speaker

@briangilligan6270

3 ай бұрын

@@suzann2531 She misunderstood, he was asking for advice to be sought, she thought he expected to have that advice to hand, she was looking for help and happy to hand over the floor. It is worrying when the Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons can't understand a statement.

Why was this not done as soon as the ICJ ruled?

@yinyatto9911

3 ай бұрын

because the government and the front bench of the opposition both don't care

@albrennan9976

3 ай бұрын

It's been renamed the ICG, old boy. Now move along. Nothing to see here...

The deputy speaker is as hopeless as the main speaker!

@colinsixhitter3303

3 ай бұрын

She took legal advice from one of the criminals enabling genocide and is not going to get legal independent advice PURPOSELY.

@user-xi9ov6tg9v

3 ай бұрын

She had no control, just total chaos when Labour hijacked the ceasefire vote.

A big applause to the MP raising much needed review of both law and legality of arms sales in a matter that has already been considered as a "Plausible Genocide" by the highest court on earth.

F***ing hell did she really just say ICG? Do you even know what's being talked about Madame deputy speaker?

She can't even string a simple sentence in English. Unbelievable.

@user-ys4ff8cr2w

3 ай бұрын

that's what happens when you lie

@RockyRumbles

3 ай бұрын

What the hell is going on? You all call this deomcracy? You want the police the world and tell them to live in a democracy but before our very eyes we can see deomcracy is an hypocrisy here!!!

@BetyarPali

3 ай бұрын

I'm not a native English speaker, but even I can speak better English than that woman.

@paulbyrne7015

3 ай бұрын

"Obviously" & "ummm" is all I could hear...pathetic...

She doesn't appear to be aware of the International Court of Justice

@johnpullen3729

3 ай бұрын

She called it ICG, In stead of ICJ...

@MonsurAlam-pp3gi

3 ай бұрын

Israeli criminal Gang

@andrewhamilton6677

3 ай бұрын

She doesn't appear to be aware of much to be honest

@user-or9oo2bu1c

3 ай бұрын

None of them know very much!!!

@markchapman9086

3 ай бұрын

Which determined absolutely nothing

This set of speakers are useless

@annenunney9907

3 ай бұрын

They are

@collier8931

3 ай бұрын

Worthless

She referred to the International Court of Justice as"ICG"! Appalling ignorance for a deputy speaker no less.

She always tries to shirk her responsibillities

@khushsubhani8205

3 ай бұрын

..but not a pay cheque

@minskysfeedbackyianni1302

3 ай бұрын

@SPY1987 "a turtle up a flag pole. ....", good one, I'm stealing that!😆

John is brilliant, and a lovely man too. Nice one for him for attacking parliaments complicity in war crimes, I’d agree with him.

@angusgus123

3 ай бұрын

Yet John was perfectly ok with delivering speeches in front of Baathist flags from Syria and Iraq in Trafalgar Square - just prior to him and JC delivering the Tories a historic majority

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

​@@angusgus123Irrelevant because he is correct here today.

@dianeglanville

3 ай бұрын

Well said John love this man the speaker is useless

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

@@dianeglanvilleyou support terrorism too?

@ispy3836

3 ай бұрын

He is another treachrous sh house

Where is everybody???? And the deputy speaker is appalling

@minskysfeedbackyianni1302

3 ай бұрын

@djf1925 They're probably off doing their second/third/fourth jobs, the ones they weren't elected for!

@kevinsmarts9953

3 ай бұрын

The chamber is often quite empty as MPs have other duties such as those in their constituencies and various committees. You only see it full for votes and PMQs.

@bluedragon13063

3 ай бұрын

Down the pub laughing at us mugs

@stevenpaulgoulding

3 ай бұрын

We need a Betty Boothroyd type speaker.

John - “can you please do your job for me and others that work here” Deputy speaker - “nah mate”

Well said John McDonnell, perhaps the best chancellor of the exchequer we never had.

She does anything she can to weasel out. How dare she simply state she won’t because she believes the Government is fine. He’s literally expressing he does not and for her to give advice so he can act on it, shes basically telling him nope, you are wrong so dont get advice.

The minister says it's legal so let's move on. A bit like racism then.

@Stewart2240

3 ай бұрын

Or Rwanda.

@RankinMsP

3 ай бұрын

Have Israel apologised though? Apparently if it's gone on for over a week, 'we should move on'. 😐

@SalvageMasterEssex

3 ай бұрын

@@RankinMsP Why should Israel apologise for anything. They never started the war the Hamas terrorists did.

@malungisamaseko3155

3 ай бұрын

​@@SalvageMasterEssexThey did since decade's ago. A little bit of research will tell you the war was going on even before October 7

She knows nothing!

Thanks for trying John!!!

Such gross incompetence by the Deputy speaker, she's ducking the issue altogether and completely muddies the point. MP's need legal advice as parliamentarians whether they are acting within the law, regardless of what the government does. What a shameful response

He may as well talk to the wind

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

But we saw. We heard. We now know.

what an appalling woman

@jaywalker3087

3 ай бұрын

Um , um , er, um😮

@dianeglanville

3 ай бұрын

she is a tory that's why

@dianeglanville

3 ай бұрын

what do expect from a tory

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

@@dianeglanville manners and education, something McDonnell can only dream of

@MrSatnavatron

3 ай бұрын

@@Panzerfaustchen oh dear , a German named account like that , hating on left wing politics ... You haven't hid yourself very well

The same sort of advise Tony Blair seeked with regard to Iraq, the sort of advise that, right or wrong, suits their purpose

@briangilligan6270

3 ай бұрын

That would be sought and advice.

Deputy Speaker totally flummoxed and all at sea. As like for Rwanda, the Tories will make it 'legal'

Well said John

The flaccidity of our democracy on full show.

They are all "COMPLICIT IN WAR CRIMES". They should be held accountable and brought to justice.

@user-kq9hr2hk3c

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Aiding and abetting war crimes. Those responsible should face the full force of the law. Just as anyone else who is charged with complicity.

Watching an mp bitting his nails is very eye-catching while my thoughts and mind should be on very important issues Please refrain whilst sitting on the front bench John MCDONNELL has made a most important point as Britain is complicit with war crimes

She doesn't know is the answer.

Christmas she's worse than Hoyle

Is she drunk, high...or just totally out of her depth 😳

Does the Deputy Speaker just not understand the point?

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

She seeks to avoid accountability.

@michaelmilnes8168

3 ай бұрын

Sadly, I think she does, and this pathetic wriggling is the best she can do. Isn't it pathetic.

@kobss

3 ай бұрын

It doesn’t seem so , no.

Well done John McDonald for raising the question.

i s r a el i s a p a r ia h s t at e

Good to see John McDonnell raise this in Parliament - and stick to his guns. What a shower the UK political class is at the moment, on both sides of the house for their complicity in gaslighting the public and any sensible voice s

Brave man, actually the answer is obvious but somehow these days the truth became the ennemy of all administrations.

What is the point of her?

@noelfleming3567

3 ай бұрын

Part of d establishment 😂

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

To protect the government.

You need to fire your legal team.

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

Why, after all they are almost certainly providing according to their brief.

"I was only following orders!" Hmmmm

Those MPs that continue to support this mass murder of the Palestinian people should be charged with being complicit in this crime against humanity. This deputy speaker is quite hopeless is hesitant and not fit to be in that very important position. If this is the best we can do in choosing these people then i fear for our democracy obviously most of these Speakers fall far below the standards required to carry out this important office.

@martinwebb1681

3 ай бұрын

That is your first mistake, believing we have a democracy when clearly we do not.

Who is she working for?

@davidharris4062

3 ай бұрын

Looks like Likud

“No.. umm.. the government says they’re.. umm.. not breaking the.. umm.. law. We should totally.. umm.. trust that they’re not.” Is it not a slight conflict of interests to provide legal determination on whether or not you yourself are breaking the law!? 🙄

@denism8494

3 ай бұрын

speaker is not a member of the "government" in its definition used in parliament, it specifically means the currently elected party. Weather or not the speaker is blatantly favouring the government is a whole different story

@Lenny2Lux

3 ай бұрын

@@denism8494 Favouring a government not sure if it's ours though.

@LDN-pup

3 ай бұрын

@@denism8494no, I know. I’m baffled by her allowing the government themselves to determine that they aren’t complicit based on their own legal advice. Surely *that* is a conflict of interest and instead it should be independent legal advice.

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

@@LDN-pupindependent legal advice from the lefty courts that support HAMAS, yeah right

@axelbruv

3 ай бұрын

​@@PanzerfaustchenWhat are you on about? What courts support Hamas? And you have the neck to call John McDonnell uneducated.

Sounds like it would be too much work for her.

4:49 Wtf is ICG? This lady is beyond in.ept.

@nickmitchell4531

3 ай бұрын

International Court of Gustice

speaking of poeple that don't apper to be interlectually sufficiant

If politicians break international law, how can we hold them accountable?

@user-kq9hr2hk3c

3 ай бұрын

People can refer them to the Police as long as the government does NOT try to place the Police under Home Office rule. The Police are independent and should remain so. Braverman wanted to change this as she disliked the Pro Palestine Marches. If under the Home Office that free speech would have been silenced. The Police were capable of doing their job and that should remain. How could a Politician be charged with a crime if Politicians are in control of Police?

The Woman is a Fart, literally of course

Complicity in war crimes🤣🤣🤣🤣you’ve started this crime in the first place from Balfour declaration in 1917 to this day!!

@el-capiitan2518

3 ай бұрын

John didn't start it did he

@suzann2531

3 ай бұрын

Best go and dig him up then ask him. How can you blame politicians of today for what happened back then. Why can’t the Palestinians live side by side with Israel anyway without fighting.

@martinwebb1681

3 ай бұрын

@@suzann2531 ... The answer to that is simple .... Religion.

@el-capiitan2518

3 ай бұрын

@@martinwebb1681 they lived in peace and harmony under the ottaman empire for 100s of years 😕😕😕😕

@astroflyinsights

3 ай бұрын

​@@suzann2531why do countries have borders at all then?

What sort of 'rule of law' is the British government operating regarding arms sales or arms gifts, when at the same time its Foreign Secretary pretends to be 'concerned' by the massacres of women and children in Gaza?

Good grief

I’ll help you out. You’re absolutely complicit. The only question is whether any of you will stand trial for it.

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your opinion. Can I have a large fries with my burger please

@ibrahimn.606

3 ай бұрын

@@Panzerfaustchen as your lawyer, it’s my job to give legal advice. And as your doctor, I must say you’ve already had too many fries.

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

@@ibrahimn.606but as my car washer, you’ve missed a bit

@Panzerfaustchen

3 ай бұрын

@michellenorris8471 so lefty … racism is your go to defence for anything even with no evidence

@user-kq9hr2hk3c

3 ай бұрын

They should stand trial. Be imprisoned if guilty. No-one is above the law including Politians and Civil Servants. NO-ONE

Thank you John

That’s what we are dealing with nobody is prepared to admit to breaking the law.😡😡😡😡😡

The govt follows the law....unless it's in a limited and specific way, relates to Rwanda, or probably many other ways. Parliament does need independent advice, while the liars are in charge 🤦‍♂

C'mon John, the government representative has told you that they're operating within the law, is that not good enough for you?!?!? As if the government would lie about it!!! 😂

@user-bo7fc9tj4z

3 ай бұрын

The people of the UK believe the opposite to the government.

The question was too intelligent for the Deputy Speaker's level of education and experience, which is why she was struggling throughout. Madam Deputy Speaker, it's not complex. McDonnell doesn't believe the govt claims that it's doing everything legally about Israel in terms of supplying them with weapons for war, especially since Israel's actions have been described as genocide by many. The ICJ has also said that it's plausible that the same country's ( Israel) action in Gaza amounts to genocide. So, Mr McDonnell is asking for the speaker to facilitate the provision of legal advice for MPs in the House because MP primary role is to hold the government to account, especially when it seems that the government is breaking the law. I.e. Indirectly participating in war crimes.

@briangilligan6270

3 ай бұрын

There are already judged to be war crimes. If, an investigation is held, how far down the line will it go? Would individual MPs be charged for voting for what they believed given the information they had at the time? This is a serious issue, the prior judgement makes it so. It's entirely possible that suppliers will be held to account, private suppliers will ignore calls but governments can't do so that easily.

@maxpowerii7368

3 ай бұрын

@@briangilligan6270if it’s found the MPs voting on supporting Israel could not have had a reasonable belief in the legality of such actions due to the prevalence of evidence to the contrary i.e the ICJ rulings then yes it’s possible for them to be prosecuted for collaboration in war crimes. Blindly pleading ignorance isn’t a get out clause for most criminal offences especially where there has been clear evidence to contrary. Otherwise no one would ever get a driving ticket again, people would just claim they thought what they were doing was legal at the time. Courts generally find ignorance of the law is not a permissible defence and especially so when it comes to international laws against war crimes. Huge numbers of Germans for example were successfully prosecuted for collaboration despite them claiming to have known nothing about the Holocaust.

@briangilligan6270

3 ай бұрын

@@maxpowerii7368 Well said, it is shocking that so many people find the actions of the Israel government are not illegal yet condemn other governments for similar crimes. I accept that what Hamas did is awful but The response of of Israel is so over the top to be unacceptable to the rest of the world, Apart from China and the Russian state,

Not exactly exuding a sense of urgency is she.

MADAM: THIS IS YOUR JOB. Sit down, stop wittering on and take note of the request.

The deputy speaker needs to focus on fixing her itinerant stuttering before trying to direct proceedings in Parliament.

I despair

This is all very well, but haven't they just voted unanimously to break international law? So what the Minister says, and the Speaker backs up (there's an amazing thing), is just nonsense, since they ultimately do what the hell they want, regardless of the law.

@davidsmith5523

3 ай бұрын

Oh but no. We saw. We now know.

She is stumbling to cover the govt and not actually dealing with a reasonable and proper request.

John McDonnell asked a clear question. What isn’t clear is whether the Deputy Speaker didn’t understand or didn’t want to understand. The MPs need legal advice on what their responsibilities are to avoid complicity in Israel’d likely genocide. It ain’t that complicated.

I guess anyone can get some legal advise as to the UK's complicity and involvement in war crimes and genocide happening by Israel in Gaza, as well as other instances of the UK's involvement, support and complicity in war crimes in other regions of the world. I would find it informative and helpful to see some legal advice on the matter. It may be naïve to expect the government or any individual or organisation that is associated with the government to be interested or enthusiastic to pursue this as it is very common for people in power to not be interested in the reality of their actions and the consequences of those actions and anything to do with emotionally connecting to what they are doing. Either way, I think that is an excellent suggestion for at least someone (or organisation) to get extensive legal advice on the matter and publish it into the public domain.

Oh dear, the speaker is stuck.

@cathygarlick9321

3 ай бұрын

She comes across as even worse than Hoyle

@noelfleming3567

3 ай бұрын

She's only there for d money and poewr

@motherabigail4985

3 ай бұрын

So is the record!

Some direct correlation to the Rwanda policies should be drawn as a way to illustrate the illegality of what the government is doing. It can then be argued that legal clarification absolutely needs confirmation since it has been shown the government is lax in establishing legal framework.

Same applies to voters. Voters allow those in power to commit atrocities by voting for those powers.

Who is the lady of the house? She shuts everything down.

@adammitxhell2932

3 ай бұрын

shes part of labour friends of israel. make of that what you will.

Respect to John McDonnell

Anyone remember these words? "it being clearly understood that NOTHING SHALL BE DONE which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

Receiving funds or gratuity from any source to bow to the will of a foreign power would make a politician an agent of that foreign power and consequently a TRATOR to the king and country.

@rukhsanachohan9779

3 ай бұрын

Excellent point made

So she wants maybe a hundred MP's to put in expense claims for separate legal advice for the same thing. Does not seem a good use of tax payers money, barristers do not come cheap.

@noelfleming3567

3 ай бұрын

All part of d club it's only taxpayers money doesn't cost them a penny

@demeterontheinternet

3 ай бұрын

Which actually might make the point that needs to be made, especially if they can show they tried to expense it to their party and their party HQ declined. They have the administrative power to do that.

All the Law Offjcers Turned War Officers

@petercook5563

3 ай бұрын

Police and thieves in the street scaring the nation with their guns and ammunition

Covering their butt's so they don't get sued separately

Thanks jhon

This is actually comical, fair play to him for calling it out

Collectively we must hold to account,all those responsible and complicit in these terrible crimes against humanity/Palestinians! Humanity needs to pursue justice till the end,and never forget what happened when we let evil rule unchecked! Peace out.

Well said John McConnell! About time someone highlights this incredible issue

A deputy speaker who struggles to put three words together without hesitation. And MPs and the public are meant to believe that this Tory government is listening to and obeying legal advice... when they tried to defend Boris etc al with a defence of not understanding COVID laws.

This entire speaker's roster is utterly without redeeming qualities. Useless.

Well said John McDonnell. How pathetic, what they are really saying is "we are above the law and we interpret law as we see fit". Just laughable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣