John Mayer teaches his PENTATONIC EQUATOR concept
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Seriously, whoever animated the fretboard is incredible. Where can I see more of that? It's an excellent visualization of what's happening, and reminds me of those bassline breakdowns showing the "peaks and valleys" of how guys like Jamerson play. It's a great way to show non-musicians or amateur musicians what's going on. I need to see more of tat so I can share it with people.
@emersonmarks3840
Жыл бұрын
Pow music
@Adiaf8oros
10 ай бұрын
O can't stretch how insanely helpful this visualization is... Cudos to whoever made it. Genius.
@waynejansen1221
9 ай бұрын
Agreed to the 10th power. The teacher is missing John’s point. I understood this clearly.
@stevends3865
8 ай бұрын
@@Adiaf8orosHis name is John Mayer.
@rproctor83
7 ай бұрын
Ha yeah I was just thinking how useful that is.
I got lost when he started talking about being underground rather than south of the equator.
@chickensoupisapoopieface
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@mr.wigglemunch3856
8 ай бұрын
It's a music lesson, not geography 😄
@vkl47
8 ай бұрын
I agree. It’s called mixed metaphors. It’s either north and south of the equator, (and why wouldn’t you stick to those terms), or above and below ground level. Poor communication.
@anatolentino1631
8 ай бұрын
Haha better just look at his fingers then use ears
@Aethelvlad
6 ай бұрын
flat earth confirmed
The concept he’s teaching is much better than how he’s teaching it.
@CieriouslyNow
8 ай бұрын
Really overcomplicated “here’s one of the other five patterns”
The animated fretboard is the real MVP. Please teach us!!
This guy's pretty good.... he might have a future.
@lambycorn5253
11 ай бұрын
Very original ha - ha
I like how the notes are animated on the fretboard 🤔 pretty interesting and gives you much all the info you need to play it
@andyn510
Жыл бұрын
Should take a look at Scott Paul Johnson! He has a very similar style in regards to animating on the fretboard
A perfect example of how great players aren't necessarily great teachers. Edit: just thought I'd check in again as, unsurprisingly, lots of people on the Internet appear to be outraged by my comment 😅. For context, I've played guitar for 30 years but I'm a history teacher by trade. I teach every day and had to train for years to understand all the theories and research there is around pedagogy. Here's what I meant in more detail. 1. The lesson purports to be about teaching "the pentatonic equator". This isn't a helpful start as this isn't an accepted/well known phrase in guitar teaching. Anyone just starting out would be confused by this. A lesson should have a clearly defined, easily understood, title that matches the content. The people telling me that he's 'just teaching positions 1 and 5 of the minor pentatonic' should note the title isn't 'learn positions 1 and 5 of the minor pentatonic scale', it's something completely different. 2. Not only is it not clear what the end goal is, the language being used is not helpful. For example, at one point he says "lets be symetrical" before displaying something that shows no symetry whatsoever. Also, letting your sentences trail off whilst unleashing some outstanding blues licks isnt going to help a learner. The same could be said of the term "equator"; it suggests the middle of something whereas what he refers to as the "equator" is actually the beginning, or end, of the pentatonic boxes, depending on how you look at it. There is also no need whatsoever for mentioning the major pentatonic. It's utterly irrelevant for explaining position 5 of the minor pentatonic and is just confusing different concepts. 3. People telling me everything would actually be revealed by watching the full length video miss the point, why create a short that devalues and complicates what is supposedly being taught? If the lesson needs 10 minutes, then make it 10 minutes. Don’t cut corners. 4. There are a huge number of comments on the video from players who are presumably just starting out, have learnt the 5 pentatonic positions, and are completely confused. I don’t blame them. So there you go, I've been sad enough to clarify my point. Maybe I should explain how I would do it?! That wouldn't upset anyone would it 🤣🤦🏽♂️.
@tbone5040
Жыл бұрын
Wolfgang Van Halen said that his father was horrible at teaching.
@musicfanIV
Жыл бұрын
Not a very fair evaluation, since this is just a short. The whole video may be more useful, may
@silverjem
Жыл бұрын
Why don't you teach us all what you're wonderful channel is or go back to your room and play guitar by yourself again
@silverjem
Жыл бұрын
If you know anything about John Mayer you know that Tomo Fujita was his guitar teacher at Berkeley and he's one of the best.
@shredacuda
Жыл бұрын
@@silverjem doesn't matter. Mayer sucks at teaching
To further clarify, by using the concept of relative minor/major, you would know that the relative minor of C major is A minor, hence why he is playing an A minor pentatonic (5th fret) starting on C. That gives you C major pentatonic. You can also play a C minor pentatonic over a major chord, but make sure to occasionally land on a natural 3rd. If you hang on the b3, it’s going to be quite tense. There are 5 minor pentatonic shapes (boxes) you can learn. Most guitar players know one, but you really need to learn all five, as you’ll be able to use the entirety of the neck to solo. Eric Johnson is a master of this. You’ll also learn the neck a lot faster.
He’s effectively explained the 5th position of the minor pentatonic … there are 3 others he doesn’t mention here …
@realwinnertoughguy
Жыл бұрын
Huh.
@kingadalou
Жыл бұрын
The other positions aren't relevant for what hes trying to get across
@DavidleeBergeron
Жыл бұрын
Doesnt fit his equator theory! Lol
@matroid4996
Жыл бұрын
But that’s not the point of the video? John didn’t say “I’m going to teach you the 5 positions of the pentatonic box.” He said he’ll show you how he views the “pentatonic equator”
@deadshot4245
Жыл бұрын
I view the neck within the scale I’m in all over the neck and then if up to it throw in coloring notes that are outside of scale with bends and such to create tensions. Generally I never look at it as a box ever because well it’ll put you in one if you are not careful. My goal is to keep the neck open to anything it’s a weird way to look at it
This is a good place for a beginner to start branching out from the common pentatonic shape. Take that shape you know, and learn to use those notes one fret down on each string. And ignore everything he said about major at the beginning, that has nothing to do with this lesson. This is strictly minor pentatonic. Take you time and listen to the notes you're playing, and always resolve back to the root note. This is where it all begins.
@timn5008
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely. That shit has been done to death.
Just learn the 5 pentatonic positions, what notes are made up in that keys pentatonic and off you go
@jessicacabrales1178
Жыл бұрын
Minor pentatonic is 1-b3- 4-5-b7 and Major pentatonic is 1-2-3-5-6.
@businessofrhythm2315
Жыл бұрын
It's more than that, if you just stick to pentatonic then you will sound stale. The modes is where it gets interesting. For blues and rock you typically wanna stay in pentatonic, but throw in a b9, #9, b5, min6...etc when your trying to add nuance that the regular root, 7, and 3rds can't comprende
@sixslinger9951
Жыл бұрын
Learn minor/ major pent, blue notes , mixolydian, natural minor to start
@businessofrhythm2315
Жыл бұрын
Are you stash wyslouch?
@deadshot4245
Жыл бұрын
First and foremost when learning scales learn major and minor and the order of modes learn the sequences for those said modes. Know where and when they are best used and experiment with them. There is an order that’s easy to follow and the shapes are not hard also use the Nashville system in bands it makes learning songs and writing parts and charts so much easier but don’t use there click track timing on 8th notes use quarter notes like a normal human
Johns tone is fucking unbelievably good.
@potatochicko
Жыл бұрын
People think it's in his guitar, his amps, his pickups, his pedals etc. Check out that VIBRATO. It is almost entirely in that and his picking dynamics and accuracy.
@deadshot4245
Жыл бұрын
@@potatochicko you are 100% right and wrong. Strings magnets the wiring action neck relief nut slot and heights fret wire saddles the fucking cable itself the amp circuit the speaker where the mic is place on said cabinet what type the settings of that his finger print how his skin interacts with the string he frets the amount of pressure used the shape and thickness of the pick what he’s thinking about when playing all that shit affects tone. But yes a lot of it is picking and fingers but don’t discredit all the other 35 to 65% of tone that comes from the other areas string gauge would also be another and the compound of what it’s produced with coated uncoated and such too
@potatochicko
Жыл бұрын
@@deadshot4245 Oh absolutely man! Technically speaking what I mentioned actually has 0% to do with tone and everything you mentioned is 100% what tone ACTUALLY is. Things like vibrato, picking and timing come down to the basic musical elements of rhythm, articulation and dynamics, which would make any instrument sound better, but actually has nothing to do with what makes the instrument sound the way it does (tone/timbre.) But because improving those techniques gives off such a characteristic sound, we sort of just call it tone anyway. But then it gets difficult, because if you articulate with a harder attack for instance, the tone gets brighter, so those techniques AFFECT tone, but they aren't what tone IS. How weird lol. And then there's the matter of how gear can actually MAKE you improve those techniques which is a whole other conversation :D
@NautilusGuitars
Жыл бұрын
@@potatochicko Your last response here really nailed everything and was a perfect way to continue the conversation from the previous comment. This is coming from a luthier of 15 years. That said, it's all semantics to debate what tecnically constitutes "tone". While you're both right, the truth is still that the majority of how we perceive a players sound is in the playing itself. Just where somebody's hand naturally sits has a big enough impact to completely override the difference between two different models of the same pickup. Add all the little dynamics of their playing, and it's a wrap. I remember wanting to replicate the tone of Melvin Davis on bass as a kid. I went to the ends of the earth to find an email for him. Got my question through, and his response was "it's all in the hands". Imagine my dismay. I responded, letting him know I understand that, but I really want to know what pickups he was using in a certain performance. He didn't even know. It was hard to accept that I got a response from him, but no real answer. Years later, I was trying to replicate Les Claypool's sound since my band covered a few primus songs. I had just started building instruments and had built a similar bass to his. Got the same exact pickups he used... I could never sound like him. No matter what bass he uses, he sounds like Claypool. No matter what bass I use, I sound like me. Like Melvin Davis said, it's all in the hands. And yes, the gear you use absolutely can change your perception enough to make you play differently by accentuating different frequencies. It's wild, but true. Rant over. lol
this is one of the greatest and most helpful tips EVER!!!! Just completely changed my playing again !! been playing for the last 23 years and only in the last 3-4 has it been completely changing for the better 🔥🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻 stay noizy and don't give up my friendz
You are such a nice person John! Hope you have tonight off to celebrate your birthday! Looking forward to your concert in CA next month!! 🎉🎉🎉
Learning the shapes across the fretboard is the easy part. Figuring out proper context for said scales is another thing entirely
Is this an interesting program that recognizes where the guitarist is pressing, or is it all done manually?
@jimimckay69
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering the same thing. I imagine it's a program similar to that old Rocksmith game only updated
@Sylla-Cybin
Жыл бұрын
@@jimimckay69 Rocksmith bigger than ever! I’m pushing 4000 hours
@DaveSwart
Жыл бұрын
It’s manual. And I love him for it! Lol
@Aethelvlad
6 ай бұрын
@@Sylla-CybinAmazing game. Session mode is my favorite for moving my knowledge of scales from the realm of knowledge into practical application and experience
My wife sees this video and says " look at the fabulous quilt!"
@brandondavidson2200
Жыл бұрын
It is fabulous now that you pointed it out lol.
That little blues note was a perfect touch
He is definitely a way better guitarist then a teacher 💗
I just love the visual addition to your content. Truly helpful.
This info would have been great 3 days ago before I figured it out myself
After 52 years of playing nearly every day, I fell upon that minor pentatonic that my first teacher BB King told me to just stick with so I do but lately I haven't seen in anyone's instructionals thank God John Mayer the badass it was right there and I was trying to see something else but my ADHD I'm right now and then I'll spin it again
I sure would love to see his amp settings! ...What a beautiful tone! 🎸
Thank you John!! I learned something new. Great teaching 👍👍
I have to mention this for anyone who might not have considered it. Depending on what you are trying to understand, you will have to look at intervals in 3 different ways: 1. As they are right now( which is in relations to the root of the scale) 2. In relations to the chord that is playing at the time 3. In relations of the note you just played to the note you are playing right now Only in the 1st category will you have the intervals looking just like they are on thease particular diegrams of the video, (aka, if you are using this scale, and having the root note be that particular one) Otherwise thease notes will not hold the same interval number in different contexts. Its a simple thing but i do think oftain neglected to acknowledge, and then it can cause confusion when looking at the guitar. My point is that ' seeing ' the guitar as more than a peace of confusing wood, is a cirtain thought process that you can get used to if you practise differenciating between thease 3 types whenever you play or analise a song. To analise a song very easly, ill recomend knowing the types of chords of the major scale and their order. For example, if i see 2 major chords a whole step apart, i know that that is probably the IV and V chord of a key, because every major scale has that pattern( as well as minor scale and every mode, but only instead of Iv and V, they are in different numberings depending on the starting note of the mode, [the VI and VII in minor btw]) Anyway, thats that, watch LoG sounds "how to think about chords" and i think youll get it if you dont already. Thats whare i learned this and finally was able to implement it in my thought process as i played. Have a good day, have fun n all that
Very helpful please do more thanks in advance Milwaukee
This lesson changed everything for me!!! Thank you John!!!
If he teaches them the rest of this scale we'll have some serious guitar players players out there in a few years
@legaremansfield1119
Жыл бұрын
What’s the whole scale called, I’m trying to look it up.
@Remembering0never
Жыл бұрын
@@legaremansfield1119 he's playing a couple positions of the pentatonic scale
@DiogenesNephew
8 ай бұрын
The pentatonic scales are among the first things absolute beginners learn.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. This is awesome.
Really nice to hear him play. Which is the best way to get a good amount of ear training. The basics of guitar theory and playing in a key is essential to understand and can't be learned not grasped in a 60 second video. Not even 60 minutes would give a untrained guitarists the needed knowledge to comprehend and implement the scales,modes, and proper fingering and note structure. As one learns these qualities of tone and the shapes of each scale positions and hand movements, one begins to apply the taught structure and improve their way to getting a sound and personality that's to their own.
Break it down for them John Mayer ⚡️🤘🏼🎸⚡️
Hey, it's our lucky day to have a touring player take any time for lessons, learn what you can, where you can. Thanks John.
The Scale that John got the Pass For
Thanks John.
Thanks I’ve never seen the scales put together like that!
Thanks for the diagram!
I definitely like the way the animation shows vibrato bends and slides.
This is fantastic ty John
He gonna show you how to play guitar
Man great lesson
To the person who made this video it took effort and time to make that so thanks well done
Damn I like this. Thank you once again Mr John Mayer
I never understood how great a guitarist you actually are. Someone tuned me in to some of your guitaring , and it’s mind blowing. Dude I could listen to a whole albu Of nothing g but guitar instrumentals by you.
It helped me because for years I never completely understood this but I would see a lot of guitar players using their pointer finger for vibrato on certain solos and when I would solo in that key the right note was the octave but you would use your ring finger to land on it and do vibrato. Once I realized that it’s the same note just lower on the neck and you use your pointer finger it all made sense . So now o can jump back and forth and mix it up so it gives you more options
As auditory learner just hearing him plays licks back and forth help me lol
@aronburrell3792
7 ай бұрын
As an auditory learner as well, what helped me unlock this scale so to speak was realizing it’s only 5 notes no matter how many patterns or positions or keys it’s only ever 5 notes. Take the key of E minor for instance E minor pentatonic is A B D E G which the guitar is already tuned to figure out where all the octaves for the open strings strings along the fretboard are and that’s the scale
Thanks!! Love from Brazil
I like that concept
And just like that. Thanks John
that was a pretty good demonstration
Good content
I love the active tab. I would have learned so much faster this way .
Just learn the whole scale all over the fretboard and do away with the equator idea!! Lolol
@RobbieTayVaughan
Жыл бұрын
hes blending the 5th position b major in with 1st position b minor . Not just 1 scale to learn all over the board
@DiogenesNephew
8 ай бұрын
@RobbieTayVaughan At the end of the short, he is playing B minor exclusively. It's just shapes 1 and 5 of the minor pentatonic.
Thank you peace!!!!!
Nice to see John playing a PRS.
That is how I learned it. There are 5 shapes in my mind the minor is 5 and the one he showed second is 4.
Ok great! Now I need a tutorial for this tutorial.
As a now casual guitar player. Going from minor to major pentatonic is probably the largest tool in my bag.
I learn so much from his music.
I think the best way to teach students about music and to train their ear is to not look at this stuff as patterns and boxes on the fretboard but what differentiates the minor and major pentatonics. That is to say, what exactly makes them sound so different from each other. How the b3 and b7 notes give that minor feeling. And how the 2nd, 3rd and 6th creates that 'major' feel for the major pentatonic. The positions will become apparent during self discovery when learning the fretboard. I guess it's helpful to get a 'head-start' with someone giving you a pattern, but that tends to make you play kind of in a non-musical way. As a side note, what I find sort of interesting is how you can see how the pentatonics, both minor and major are sub-sets of the various minor and major modes. When learning all the positions of the pentatonics, you are really learning your modes at the same time, or at least the positions.
Hes got that hendrix blues vibe great ax man.
@deadshot4245
Жыл бұрын
It’s not hard to achieve if you study the right musicians
Jesus fuck I'm wearing headphones and tear red square scared the hell out of me 🤣🤣🤣
I made this up on my own it is my shard Fret system and works on all modes scales and blues or major and minor pentatonic scales , the logic of the. C minor scale pentatonic or regular is the e string is the minor note of the g string so if c is on the e string e flat is on the g string , all you need to do is use shared fret system as I call it , and your able to utilize c from the g string flatten the e on the bstring and it becomes e flat
Thanks in a million John
just starting out ! really apriciate the vidieo
Nice…gonna analyze this in an instant replay super-slo-mo. I struggle to write solos . No structure to my “above the equator” skill set other than some higher octaves rhythms a simple squeals n’ squeaks. Got to get the sound in my head into this reality.
Mayer loves the C chord , when he gives pointers he likes to use the C chord but it makes sense because a lot of blues is in C or A or E
@Aethelvlad
6 ай бұрын
its because it is the root note of the chromatic scale. he learned traditional music theory and piano, both of which start their notation and increment octaves on c. it was most likely just habit, because thats the default note a traditional musician would use for examples, since it is most talked about and used as an example when learning theory. c major and minor are the first scales a beginner learns. naturally he is teaching the subsequent forms of these scales (using the consonant pentatonics) in the key of C as well, to keep things simple. it's just a bit weird on guitar because guitarists usually start with the key of E for obvious reasons.
Props to whoever tabbed this out
I think a shortened laymens terms way to put it is, play in between the 2 scales and try to connect it and see what you come up with. It takes playing around with and practicing(like hes doing here).
Amazing digital transcription job.
I've been using this without my knowing. All i do is mix the classic Pentatonic minor with he extended major Pentatonic run.
He is so good
I wish I had this when I was 14.
5th position minor pentatonic shape played over the 1st position major pentatonic shape. If you knew this then the instruction/example was more easily understood.
Do you use some special software to get the notes played to the scales? Or you do it one by one?
@darkforest3333
Жыл бұрын
😂
ohhh...its interesting.and seems useful.thankyou
just learn the minor and major pentatonic accross the fretboard and if you're comfortable with that do the different minor and major scales
@Aethelvlad
6 ай бұрын
major*
@olivierdols5556
6 ай бұрын
@@Aethelvlad thanks ill correct it
It’s the same number of notes just in positions that force a different attack than the standard boring box
I still can’t wrap my brain around why when he demos combining the two scales, the notes on the minor pentatonic isn’t matching the first part of the animation.
😊 Perception ❤
C minor/Eb major pentatonic system❤
Shreads on guitar 🌹
I've been playing guitar for 20 years, I've learned numerous chords & can play almost anything if the tabs in front of me. I've never been able to learn the scales. I've tried & for whatever reason I just get incredibly confused. This was no different.
You sir should be paid very well.
"Let's be symmetrical, the way you would do that..." proceedes to slay guitar.
Oh wow that’s a great example
Vids like this serve as affirmation of my lack of talent.
so just learn the 5 pentatonic shapes like we have always done….got it 😂
Paradigm Shift 🤯🤯🤯🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes master
In other words, learn the 5 pentatonic patterns and shred all over the fretboard.Zakk Wylde, Kirk hammett etc. Been doing it for decades!
Johns always "thinking about the C"
You the best
Got it. I’ll get right on it
Ok, that's brilliant, but it's not the same shape. But it's great to think of a smaller area to concentrate on. I used to only see one shape at a time, but now I learned them all, but I find I end up playing too many notes.
So good
No idea what he is talking about but it sounds great to me.
Breaking: JM explains the caged system
I’m confused. First he shows position one of the pentatonic scale moved in to the major pentatonic position. Got it! Then he plays the 5th minor position instead. I though he was teaching the minor major combination?
@stuntmaster127
10 ай бұрын
Relative minor
Why does bro look like Narco’s Pablo Escobar
Where do I get the full lesson?