John East Uni Pre Versus Aguilar OBP3 bass pre amp Shoot out.

This is the 3rd video in the series about the John East Uni Pre.
I had an Aguilar OBP3 installed in my Zoot bass which developed a fault. In this video you will hear the pre/post comparison of the 2 pre amps.

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  • @pauljazzbass
    @pauljazzbass6 жыл бұрын

    The audio is recorded separately with on board stereo mics through a zoom h4n.

  • @WTHFX
    @WTHFX7 жыл бұрын

    interesting video. The OBP-3 tone is more enjoyable to my ears, however, the Uni is more coherent, articulate, balanced and faster. I think if I were playing jazz I'd want the Uni but for funk, R&B and rock, the OBP-3 does the trick.

  • @simondavid9370
    @simondavid93703 жыл бұрын

    Hi can you recommend pickups to go with the east uni preamp?

  • @craigmoran893
    @craigmoran8935 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Uni-Pre 4 - volume/blend, Bass/Treble, Mid/mid Frequency and Tone. With internally select-able frequencies for Treble and bass, the preamp shits all over the Aguilar.

  • @judechery98

    @judechery98

    4 жыл бұрын

    Craig Moran which one is it exactly? I'd like the same.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uni pre 5

  • @powerofpeace7
    @powerofpeace77 жыл бұрын

    The thing with the East too is that there are so many options,you have to take your time and work with it.Most cats are looking for a specific tone right away,and get bored.The J retro deluxe would blow aguilar out the water

  • @b5164
    @b51642 жыл бұрын

    Beside of hearing (not so great) youtubesound: What is about the feel while playing? Which one will stay in your bass?

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    2 жыл бұрын

    The John East will stay, as the main purpose in replacing the original was to solve the random click that kept happening.

  • @gingaleanda
    @gingaleanda8 жыл бұрын

    They're both very good sounding. What was the issue with the OBP3 ?

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +gingaleanda A fault developed that sounded like a capacitor discharging or a wire shorting out. The fault was quite random, you could be playing for 30 minutes before it would happen. In the video I highlighted when it happened with the word "CLICK". It made the bass unusable apart from in a practice session.

  • @gingaleanda

    @gingaleanda

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pauljazzbass thanks for the feedback:)

  • @jwillbassist

    @jwillbassist

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pauljazzbass What kind of pick ups are those? To me the Aguillar still sound better

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +tehillahband The pick ups are Aero H series.

  • @Iofflight78
    @Iofflight786 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this but it really should be DI instead of camera.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    6 жыл бұрын

    syzygywell thanks for the comment. The cab is recorded through stereo mics on a Zoom H4N. The camera mic was not used. Still, not as good as hearing it live. Probably the only way to hear properly.

  • @NickWeissMusic
    @NickWeissMusic8 жыл бұрын

    Bummer. Can't have that. I had a similar problem, the preamp on my Schack bass went bad and I had to rip it out, it made a "pulsing hiss" and there was no way to fix it as Schack was out of business at the time. Of course, I have KZread commenters telling me I shouldn't have modified my bass. Silly. It's a tool, not a museum piece. The OBP sounds more useful since there's more treble, easy to dial treble out, tough to add back in cleanly if needed. Shame it didn't work right.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Nick Weiss yes. Originally it was really good, when first installed. But being a sealed unit there's little you can do If they go wrong. I think I do prefer the John East. More expensive but seems to be sounding good, on my bass anyway.

  • @sixelepe2841

    @sixelepe2841

    8 жыл бұрын

    for me the aguilar makes noise when you open the treble knob all the way. I've just changed my Thumb bass preamp to Aguilar (looking for more mids..) and I wasn't satisfied as the MEC circuit was very silent and has more treble than Aguilar. I think it was a mistake. I like that MEC glassy treble. I'mma back to the MEC. Aguilar also gave me some radio signals when recording, I don't like it :( ...Is it the JE unipre silent? I like how it sounds in this video. Maybe I would like to install it on my thumb. Any advice? thank you!

  • @sixelepe2841

    @sixelepe2841

    8 жыл бұрын

    Does it the pu blend work on passive mode? I also would like to listen the treble push/pull function... and also listen the passive tone. Can you? I'd appreciate if you can upload a video please using this function of JE unipre :) . Thank you! Nice video.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sixta Pena I also noticed when I first had the bass that I never pushed the treble up all the way because of the noise and the frequency it affected seemed harsh (as it was a custom bass their was also a filter switch installed that took the treble down anyway which helped). Although I find the John East better than the Aguilar it's not silent. In fact I returned one of the units because of noise when I was sweeping the pickup blend. I don't tend to use the controls fully up anyway. I'll have to have a listen and try them up full to see what happens. I used to have a Warwick Thumb really liked it for many years. I've also made sure on my bass that the pickup cavities and the control cavity are copper foil screened to stop noise. The best pre amp I currently have is in another bass I have (an Overwater), Its not available separately though they are made inhouse at Overwater. I wouldn't rush into buying a John East until you are sure though, its a big investment. Being able to control the mids is key in my opinion to shaping the sound. I usually run my Overwater with the treble rolled off almost all the way, the only time I use it up is when I'm slapping.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sixta Pena Pick up blend does work in passive mode.

  • @eloysuopunki7926
    @eloysuopunki79263 жыл бұрын

    Aguilar is very "burpy" and hard to control, I have had it in a Spector and it goes into the fart zone very fast with the bass boost.

  • @warloshernandez
    @warloshernandez2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds to me like this is not a right sound comparison, John East sounds DI while OBP3 sounds like a room mic I can notice when you playing slap.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comment. Please read the pinned comment. Both are recorded the same. I hope that helps.

  • @bink2315
    @bink23157 жыл бұрын

    I have the J retro and I don't like it, I'm going with the Aggie OBP3, I have it installed in another bass and I can't believe how good it sounds, I got the J retro due to all the good things I heard about it but I would rather have an Aggie, Audere, or Bassmods the Aggie will go into my KSD proto j 605 keeping the stock pups I tried to fit a set of Nordies in it but it would not fit without making mods so I'm gonna stay with the stock pups

  • @scottbryan7746

    @scottbryan7746

    6 жыл бұрын

    just sent my cort a4 for a on board preamp installation. Getting the Ag OBP3 on it. Hope that it'll sound great.

  • @juniorvigolvino9902
    @juniorvigolvino99024 жыл бұрын

    pickups???

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aero H.

  • @gpasc
    @gpasc5 жыл бұрын

    John East 4meee

  • @pakomaniaco123
    @pakomaniaco1238 жыл бұрын

    In the minut 6:33 make a click the pream uni.. Why ? Maybe is your amplificador.

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Pakoman Juana Rasta well spotted. Although that was just some random noise in the video. Probably my floor creaking. Not the preamp this time.

  • @pakomaniaco123

    @pakomaniaco123

    8 жыл бұрын

    pauljazzbass OK. Thanks. Have a nice day.

  • @lionelwilliams7768
    @lionelwilliams77684 жыл бұрын

    The effort is appreciated but what's the point. It is NOT a side by side comparison. Recorded on 2 different days. The East sounds heavier in all settings and the Aguilar brighter and crisper. But the most troubling aspect to get around is the unusually sloppy rubbery bass playing. Hard to focus on the tone with that setting right in your ears, mate. Best 2U

  • @ANDYBARTLESON

    @ANDYBARTLESON

    2 жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @powerofpeace7
    @powerofpeace77 жыл бұрын

    East is way better.Aguilar has too much bass boost,and is over the top.At least the East has a tone control that works in passive and active which is a major plus

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    7 жыл бұрын

    +powerofpeace7 thanks for commenting. I tend to agree that the East has a more useable range.

  • @powerofpeace7

    @powerofpeace7

    7 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.Yeah I tried them all,and the easy is the best on the eq curves.Peace!

  • @TheIntelligentView

    @TheIntelligentView

    7 жыл бұрын

    To each their own... I prefer the Aggie !! Too many so-called bass players today with NO bottom end- playing thru their TOY class D amps and really should be guitar players!! REAL bass players LOVE REAL Bottom end... Not making a bass sound like a heavier guitar. There are a lot more so-called bass players on this Earth plain today, but I look at it as their is still a great lack of REAL True bass players, like myself!! Mike Inez of AIC is a good example of a real bassist. He always has a ton of bottom end.

  • @powerofpeace7

    @powerofpeace7

    7 жыл бұрын

    Aguilar are nice but like I fore-mentioned,too over the top.Nobody needs a bass frequency like that,that is overbearing.I rather deal with a immaculately made preamp,than a wax potted faulty one

  • @TheIntelligentView

    @TheIntelligentView

    7 жыл бұрын

    Your opinion. You can have it. I've been playing for 30 years and love the deep bass. When set up properly, it kills and I'm a True bassist!

  • @RonelDelgado
    @RonelDelgado8 жыл бұрын

    John East Kicks Aguilars always,you recorded with different cameras,you can't compare never,John East is on another league,Superior League.

  • @joselbajistabassbmx1124
    @joselbajistabassbmx11243 жыл бұрын

    Finger -John Slap- aguilar

  • @christopherphinney9585
    @christopherphinney9585 Жыл бұрын

    John East by a mile!

  • @MrDrop11

    @MrDrop11

    4 ай бұрын

    I adore my uni. I coupled it with nord pickups on a mid tier Ibanez and it sounds amazing.

  • @chazz-j1994
    @chazz-j19948 жыл бұрын

    Can't really get an accurate representation through a camera mic, at least if you're going to do a video like this either use an audio interface or actually mic up the cab. Still, good attempt

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +CJEUK thanks for the comment. The cab is recorded through stereo mics on a Zoom H4N. The camera mic was not used. Still, not as good as hearing it live. Probably the only way to hear properly.

  • @chazz-j1994

    @chazz-j1994

    8 жыл бұрын

    sorry for jumping to conclusions, sounded like you recorded it through the camera. As you say, live is the only way of making an accurate judgement

  • @pauljazzbass

    @pauljazzbass

    8 жыл бұрын

    +CJEUK no problem. Its good to get some feedback.

  • @DaveVergato
    @DaveVergato5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not hearing a click with the OBP-3, but I'm hearing the click from your fingers hitting the strings. With all due respect, I don't think you should do that.

  • @craigmoran893

    @craigmoran893

    5 жыл бұрын

    At 6:47 you can hear the crack. Use your ears before you blame the dude.

  • @DaveVergato

    @DaveVergato

    5 жыл бұрын

    Craig Moran I didn’t mean to be harsh. Some guy said the same thing to me in a video I did a while back, but was referring to the strings hitting the frets. I was referring to when this guy is hitting (not slapping) the strings with his right hand between notes. So if I wasn’t kind or eloquent enough let me clarify...that made it hard to discern the click sound he was trying to get us to hear, and also wouldn’t be good if he was recording on a studio session. As for the click at 6:47, I can’t be sure it’s coming from the preamp. It seems like there was a switch or push/pull pot that was thrown right at the same time. I’m mostly interested in the tonal differences between the Aguilar and the East. I’ve used both systems for many years and I’m planning to replace the preamp in one of my basses soon. I’m leaning towards the East, as I feel it’s the best preamp out there. I’ve had several East preamps and they are just so hard to beat. That being said, my Aguilar OBP-3 equipped bass sounds terrific, and I’ve been a fanboy of Aguilar amps for many years. I think a bass equipped with an East onboard and an Aguilar amp head is the best of both worlds.

  • @craigmoran893

    @craigmoran893

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DaveVergato I understand what you mean, where he slaps his fingers above the pickups - that is a bad habit alright. Who wants to hear that amplified or through a PA? There definitely is a click in the somewhere, I think we can trust him in saying it's not just happening because of a flipped switch, or pulled pot. We have to assume he knows it is this bass and not his amp. These sorts of random problems are the faults that really Piss me off!!! Never been very impressed with Aguilar stuff TBH. It certainly is hard to judge the sound of a preamp when everyone is using different pickups and basses! But I don't think this was a very good demo of the East Uni-pre. The East preamp has a mid frequency, AND boost/cut knob. I didn't think it was shown off properly here, it also has internally changeable frequencies for bass and treble, and a treble boost... That is pretty fancy. And makes the Aguilar one look pretty basic really. I actually have a Uni-pre 4...but alas it's not installed yet - i'm waiting for new pickups. What do you think of the East preamp? what features do you like?

  • @acekkkkkk

    @acekkkkkk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes there is way too much fret noise, but frankly I hate people always complaining about a percussive funky playstyle. Who are you to say "he should not do that". Have you ever listened to a studio isolated bass track from flea? His fret noise is so much worse and nobody cares

  • @DaveVergato

    @DaveVergato

    5 жыл бұрын

    acekkkkkk You’re right I didn’t mean to be a jerk. The fret noise didn’t bother me...it was the right hand clicking on the strings. But I didn’t mean to criticize in a negative way. I meant to be helpful...sorry if I came across wrong.