John Deere B - Getting the Engine to Run Smoothly

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A lot of troubleshooting to get our 1949 John Deere B to run smoothly after an engine rebuilt. Carburetor overhaul and tuning, ignition timing adjustment, clutch adjustment and rebalancing, and new spark plugs. But it now starts easily and runs smoothly.

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  • @patrickcreath217
    @patrickcreath21710 ай бұрын

    I really needed this highly detailed and well explained tutorial. I just bought a 1951? Model B, three days ago, and paid 2800 for it. It needs the choke on to run, and even then, it sounds kind of rough. This is my first Johnny Popper, and I'm going to get it right. Thanks again good buddy!😅

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    If you'd need the choke on to run, your idle circuit in the carb is probably clogged.

  • @DanielFarmChannel
    @DanielFarmChannel10 ай бұрын

    Well, that's much better. I'm glad you got it figured out. I think some people attribute any vibration to it being a two cylinder. In reality, when properly assembled, they are very smooth. I'm not sure if you have seen it at a show, but sometimes people will have their tractor running while sitting on glass coke bottles. Apparently, dealers used to do it as a marketing tool for people that thought they were rough and vibrated excessively. It's pretty cool to see in person.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    I watched your video on flywheel installation to make sure the flywheel was installed correctly. I've seen videos of the tractors on coke bottles... but never in person. Maybe I'll try recreating it.

  • @79fordblake
    @79fordblake10 ай бұрын

    Glad to see you got it smoothed out! Sounds good!

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    Me too!

  • @keepcalmandfarmon5401
    @keepcalmandfarmon540110 ай бұрын

    Great video trouble shooting the mighty John Deere B. Happy you got it all figured out...and happy you shared the journey,

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @larrydavidson3402
    @larrydavidson340210 ай бұрын

    Good trouble shooting, it sure sounds much better. Good job.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Yes, it's nice to have it running smoothly.

  • @rudycarlson8245
    @rudycarlson824510 ай бұрын

    Great to see an update on it! Makes me miss my 1949 B even more!😢

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, it's nice to have it running good

  • @rudycarlson8245

    @rudycarlson8245

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jonelsonster I missed the video when you got it. What is it running when you got it?

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rudycarlson8245 here is a link to a playlist with all of the videos about this tractor. kzread.info/head/PLFyQBtxp-h2qTRnOH_jbAnGgr5Ne0dj39

  • @rudycarlson8245

    @rudycarlson8245

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jonelsonster thanks will check it out

  • @CannonMusic05
    @CannonMusic05Ай бұрын

    I’m about to buy a 1941B from a guy that he says runs for about five minutes and then stalls out so hopefully I can get that figured out. This video should be pretty helpful. Thank you.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    Ай бұрын

    Every project has something that needs to be figured out. And they're all a bit different. Hopefully you're able to get your B running well. Best of luck 🤞🏻

  • @jancilliers4525
    @jancilliers45255 ай бұрын

    I am a South African and my late Dad used to have a similar John Deere tractor in the late 60's. Not sure which model, might be a B Model as well as I was about 6 or 7 years old then. Thanks for jogging fond memories and a tear or two!

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. I think yours in the first comment I've ever had from South Africa... Maybe even Africa all together! Thanks 👍🏻

  • @hm12460
    @hm1246010 ай бұрын

    You just gotta love a late model B John Deere.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    9 ай бұрын

    No doubt

  • @PaulCTownsend
    @PaulCTownsend19 күн бұрын

    Great video and info thank you.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    18 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful

  • @livelifetogivelife9462
    @livelifetogivelife94623 ай бұрын

    Great - thank you!

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    3 ай бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @kennycriswell141
    @kennycriswell1418 ай бұрын

    FYI a mag is not like a distributor. You set them and forget them. Distributors you can adjust like that with the tractor running. Also mags have 2 different types of time. Run time which is set with whatever drive cup you have. The other is lag time or start time. Thats the time that trips your impluse. Lag time is also the time you adjust on a mag. Take mag off of tractor loosen the 4 screws on the back and rotate it left. On a wico x mag you want it about halfway between the last 2 marks to the left.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    You should check out my Magneto and distributor overhaul videos.

  • @davidkimmel4216
    @davidkimmel42169 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    9 ай бұрын

    No problem

  • @kennycriswell141
    @kennycriswell1418 ай бұрын

    Bout time for a new clutch. Your down on your bolts quite a ways

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    All in good time.

  • @stevenabbott714
    @stevenabbott7146 ай бұрын

    Awsome

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ronaldwhite9954
    @ronaldwhite995410 ай бұрын

    There must be one guy somewhere close to you that rebuilt/did a bunch of work on those old JDs...and didn't align the flywheels.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    No joke! And we are the unlucky ones downstream.

  • @richardschaffling9882
    @richardschaffling98826 ай бұрын

    Sounds good but the nuts on the clutch looked like the castle part was way down from the hole for the cotter pin so it looks like the nuts can back off.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    6 ай бұрын

    There are multiple holes

  • @Showboat_Six
    @Showboat_Six5 ай бұрын

    Swap the spark plugs from side to side and see if the problem follows

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    5 ай бұрын

    Good tip!

  • @randyscott8660
    @randyscott86609 ай бұрын

    I use to tighten each castle nut one notch at a time that way they are all even..

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't know if I would have the patience for that 🤣

  • @livelifetogivelife9462
    @livelifetogivelife94623 ай бұрын

    I have a question… My JD 40T is loud like this B I really want to quiet it down. Mine has a similar exhaust to your B… Is packing the pipe with exhaust silencer a “bad idea”? Thanks in advance

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    3 ай бұрын

    I've never messed with any packing in the muffler. We have a 1950 M with a new stock muffler and it isn't loud at all. And it has essentially the same motor you have. You could consider buying a new muffler if your other plan doesn't pan out.

  • @paulohamm3335
    @paulohamm333510 ай бұрын

    Parabéns Brasil 🇧🇷 você tem um número de alguma loja que eu pudesse comprar peças para meu Jd 820 ou email agradeceria muito ❤

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    I use eBay

  • @Hernerranch
    @Hernerranch9 ай бұрын

    thats what my 70 sounds like

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    9 ай бұрын

    Gotta love that two cylinder music!

  • @HarlowBAshur

    @HarlowBAshur

    Ай бұрын

    I hope your 70 sounds a whole lot better than any B.

  • @rayhewitt4688
    @rayhewitt46888 ай бұрын

    She sounds a lot better

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes, it runs really well now.

  • @jamesblack702
    @jamesblack7028 ай бұрын

    I had the same problem with a 40 A.Nothing moree than a waorn throttle shaft bushing anf felt seal.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    8 ай бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @kennycriswell141
    @kennycriswell1418 ай бұрын

    That tractor would of had a distributor on it not a magneto. Mags should set perfectly level if timed correctly. I can tell by looking at your mag that your lag time is off. I'd also throw that wico c mag away and put a wico x mag on it if your gonna run a mag. Theres no difference in degrees with a wico c or x mag. Its the drive cups that is where you get degree difference. Theres 2 different types of drive cups long lug and short lug. Long lug is a 35° cup for unstyled tractors and the short lug cup is a 25° cup. You can run either cup on a c or x mag. You just gotta have a short lug for your B.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    Magnetos were available on all letter tractors through 1952. You should watch my video on magneto and carburetor identification.

  • @JohnSmith-fs4dx
    @JohnSmith-fs4dx10 ай бұрын

    What was the secret in the final moments of your video here?

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    10 ай бұрын

    Once we had the timing right and the carburetor properly cleaned and the float set and also a new set of plugs, it was just fine running the carburetor. We also rotated the magneto a little back (ccw) but the biggest thing was seeing the idle and load needles properly.

  • @JohnSmith-fs4dx

    @JohnSmith-fs4dx

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you@@jonelsonster this is very helpful. Trying to get my H running that smooth. Wish my grandfather was still alive to help. Not too many people know about these tractors anymore.

  • @Dragon-hc2hm
    @Dragon-hc2hm10 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you just adjust your impulse timing? Pull the mag back off and look at the underside you can adjust the timing of the impulse. Rachel Gingell has a great video on how to do it.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    9 ай бұрын

    That will only adjust the impulse, which is only active during starting. I want the engine timing to be correct wile the engine is running and working... not just at start.

  • @tonymiller3788
    @tonymiller37882 ай бұрын

    Ha, ha. Be careful where you grab while rotating that mag. I was waiting for you to get zapped.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    2 ай бұрын

    Would not be the first time. Ha ha ha 😂

  • @kennycriswell141
    @kennycriswell1418 ай бұрын

    Im not trying to be a prick. Put it back on the marks and adjust your magneto. I work on these tractors and everyday I have to guess and try to figure out what people have done to them when Im trying to get them running again.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    It's running strong now. We'll leave it the way it is.

  • @jasonn3072
    @jasonn30723 ай бұрын

    You didn't need to do that with the governor gear. Someone put the magneto on the tractor wrong. You should fix it correctly and put the magneto together correctly.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    3 ай бұрын

    You should watch the video I made right before this one... kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWx826qpaLOcZ7g.html

  • @clarencetrice4442
    @clarencetrice44427 ай бұрын

    most of those old tractors use the WICO X magneto that 1 was replaced w the later style 1 the other 1 😮😮 either it wasn't no good or just 4 parts the tractor wouldn't run smooth U should've cleaned the points 2 most the time the old sparkplugs are no good because of the gas that is made 2 day is no good either it's junk 😮😮 4 the magneto cap and the rotor button 5 U should've started the tractor up in the dark 2 see if the sparkplugs wires are leaking current they should be replaced solid copper sparkplug wires carry current better than the others and the spark should be bright blue and hot and I have seen the magneto w coils when they are bad the will make the tractor back fire the only way 2 fix that is 2 replace the coil w a new 1 I seen this myself 😊😊 OMG 11 29 2O23

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    7 ай бұрын

    I actually rebuild magnetos and distributor as a hobby. I am pretty familiar with them. I have several videos on my channel that you can watch showing troubleshooting, testing, and rebuilding of magnetos. This magneto was bench tested and known to be good and reliable. Plus, were only run ethanol free fuel in our tractors. 🧏🏼

  • @timeinbu7909
    @timeinbu79099 ай бұрын

    Please be sure to grease pully bearing while you're in there, it's VERY IMPORTANT..

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the tip!

  • @roadrash3101
    @roadrash3101Ай бұрын

    Don't change or adjust the timing marks for them. They are there for a reason! The Wico C magneto should be in the level position for the engine to run correctly. This is exactly why this tractor sounds like shit. The Wico magneto has a built in advance for accommodating this.

  • @jonelsonster

    @jonelsonster

    Ай бұрын

    Noted.

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