I like your channel man keep up the good work I love that old iron

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Thank you I enjoy playing this old iron as well

If it is really stuck pull the block, drill a 1/2 steel plate to fit the head bolt pattern. Fit a block of wood on top of the piston, place the plate on the wood block, install the nuts and torque down. You may have to shock it loose with a big hammer while under pressure. I've used this on a couple of old D's that were really stuck. One didn't have rings but the ring grooves were filled with compacted carbon.

I bought a tractor with a stuck engine. I jacked up one hind wheel, put it into high gear, and started rocking the wheel back and forth. The faster you can spin the wheel the better.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea

I used to farm with an old John Deere R in the late 70's. It ran great, including the gas pup motor.

That 60 would make a great restoration project.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

That’s kind of the hope to eventually restore it

I dont know if that was the easy way to free a stuck engine but it worked.Im looking forward to seeing it running.

You can buy fittings that go in spark plug holes. They're metric (German's set the spark plug standard).

From personal experience: I came up with the bright idea to bolt an aluminum plate with a face o-ring and a grease fitting onto the cylinder block of a seized F-head Jeep engine. I pumped it full of grease and felt something give. Upon removing the plate, I saw a gaping hole in the cylinder wall and the piston had not moved. Cylinder walls are thin and weak due the need for water jackets. It took very little force on the grease gun handle to destroy the block.

That is an interesting method to get it to turn very cool

We fill the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and let soak overnight. Then throw 24 volts through the starter. It’s worked 100% of the time for us.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea

@platinumsky845

7 ай бұрын

What about for a hand start JD model H?

Years ago I had an International truck with a red Diamond 6 cylinder engine that was stuck, we pulled the head one friday and put a mixture of atf fluid and wd40 on top of the pistons over the weekend and used a true 4 by 4 oak block and a sledge hammer and hit the tops of the cyinders I got on top of the engine and had someone else drive while we pulled it in gear went about 300 ft. and it broke loose i I still had to beat on the cylinders abit and broke loose we did an inframe overall and carb rebuild and I used that old R-190 International trk and a 34 ft flatbeed trailor to haul cotton bales from our gin to to the compress the next 4 years could load about 36 bales at a time. The truck was sold in 1980 at my granddads estate farm sale and the man that bought it drove it home

You have the hard part done with some movement. Now wrap a length of cable (1/4" should work) around the flywheel a few times with an eye in one end. Then put the end of the longest/heaviest bar you have in the eye and lever the engine over till free. The cable wrap trick worked on a stuck JD 50 that I broke free.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Check out my latest video I got it turning very smooth

I love these old tractors, cant wait to hear it run. Also people making comments on here should be nice about it, why be nasty too others.

I love that tractor, Canada

You can never have too many tractors.

FYI that settle bulb is for trash in the gas tank ,I has a separate screw in switch for the oil pressure shutdown , I've have a all original untouched John Deere 50 with all the options and cider vinegar will unstick the clutch after spraying the clutch disc several days

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

How about just taking the clutch apart it’s like 3 bolt and that way I can properly adjust it as well

It does not have the tact out let, which is located on the left side of the engine. Also it des not have factory power steering. That tells me that it could be a late 1955 model.

Break up an old spark plug to make an adapter? Use the appropriate fitting from a compression tester, just don't use the hose.

Pidley videos are ok.just keep em real.a tip on stuck stuff always cover the exhaust.pull all drains and check for water and rust.snug drains up an mix diesel an cheap oil or straight fuel no gas never.fill crank case all you can get in.fill the cylinders full.trany to and walk away for a couple months.when you try to free em up.rock em back an forth.dragging spins bearings and bends and break stuff sometimes.very good video.telling the story by steps.it's all good.ask viewers questions when you need.suggestions etc.real videos are never boring.good job.

@tomrobards7753

Жыл бұрын

You will be amazed what cider vinegar will do I a few days of use , it eats rust and nothing else . Used for many many years got it from and old John Deere dealer foreman mechanic 40 Year's ago

He can also bend the connecting rod on the other piston or even on the Piston that he's trying to push

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I thought of that but when I’m playing with a 200$ tractor why would it matter that much? It never hurts to try new things

@duanebolen543

Жыл бұрын

In our area it is hard to get John Deere parts so why would you want to ruin it for no reason at all

@platinumsky845

7 ай бұрын

​@@duanebolen543it's already "ruined", he's just giving it a better chance to work again.

Get an old grenade from military surplus place it under the stuck cylinder, pull the pin, and run. (Don't forget to cover your ears).

Been breaking engines loose by grease pressure in the cylinder,, for 45 years or more,,we invented that process here in my neighborhood,, not bragging just stating a FACT!! MY FATHER COME UP WITH THAT IDEA AROUND 1978 OR SO,,

@platinumsky845

7 ай бұрын

Hate to say but many people "came up with" that idea, good for him but it's been done that way even longer than he's been doing it.

@Truerealism747

2 ай бұрын

​@@platinumsky845just connect to plug hole?

@nick-dm3if

20 күн бұрын

Hate to tell you man but we did it in 77

Pull the oil pan off and put a hydraulic jack underneath the crank on one of the lobes Jack it up and let the pressure set overnight it'll break it free

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

2 cylinders don’t have oil pans to get into the crankcase you go through the top

Brake fluid works to break pistons loose.

You should have sprayed the whole tractor down with kerosene or disel fuel ! That loosens every moving part up n keeps new weeds from growing up sround it, until you get to working on it .

You should have left a valve open slightly to bleed the air out

Why not use an adapter for a compensation gauge

Can you make me some of the spark plug things? lmao

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

How many do you want

It has a 4 spoke steering wheel. The 60's that had power steering had a 3 spook steering wheel. In 1956 John Deere made power steering slandered equipment on the 50, 60, & 70 models.

Put cleaning "ammonia " into the cylinder and let it stand for a couple of days.

Are you grounding your welder through the vise? Never a good idea unless I missed something.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Why it’s worked for a long time for me

@gunrunner4747

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a good idea because you’re ground is running through the screw of the vice. At least you should ground directly to the solid side jaw.

@jimmoravec1326

10 ай бұрын

@@gunrunner4747 True, you should always ground directly to your project you are welding

You talked about disconnecting one piston...did you do that and if so how???

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t end up doing that but if I would have there is a cover on the top of the crankcase that gives access to the rods to disconnect them

Is there a follow-up video with the tractor unstuck and the grease pumped and the tractor running and pulling a plow. You did a great job but with no follow-up video I'm heart broken. You could have heated the metal part on the plug and used pliers to pull the whole ceramic part out.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

There is several follow up videos I got it running and am currently looking for tires

@johnwilkinson5718

Жыл бұрын

@Ether Bandit’s Garage sorry I didn't realize those videos were of the same tractor. I see now grease worked, but was a nasty cleanup.

Next time fill the cyclinders with Kerosene NOT ATF!

Just a FYI if the clutch is stuck the motor wont turn.

It may be better to use rust penetrant to free it , forcing it may break the rings/pistons , how are you going to get the grease out without a teardown ?

@jimthode

Жыл бұрын

Just turn the engine over and it will blow out the exhaust or spark plug hole. That will get most then some solvent/gas will get the rest. I've used this method on a 4 cylinder Case that I had no way to lever over with a bar.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I did actually have the cylinders full of atf before I put a grease gun on it so it did have some lubricatiom

You can heat up the metal part up on the plug and the porcelain will come out

That white stuff in the spark plug isn't your dad's porcelain. It is a tough ceramic, as you found out. Try to find very old spark plugs for the fragile stuff.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Good point

If you have a stuck valve, the grease will escape.

About all of the 52 model 60s had oval slots in the rear cast wheels. Someone change them or it's a VERY late 52.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well when I purchased it and thought it was pretty weird my 52 50 has slots in the rear centers

You can bend things, I've heard by force. I'd prefer not bending things. After all, it's already been sitting a long time.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Yes but on a tractor with little to no value why not try new things

@williamsnipes7608

Жыл бұрын

@@etherbanditsgarage9313 Running JD 60. Maybe as much as $2,000.

@platinumsky845

7 ай бұрын

​@@williamsnipes7608yes, a RUNNING 60.

Grease jerk? You mean grease zerk?

The rings still be frozen to the pistons

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Stay tuned for war is to come it will definitely be exciting

Use vinegar like puddins fab shop

Take the clutch apart first then free the engine.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Watch the next video in the series you will find out what is wrong with the clutch

wouldnt a disc grinder be easier

nO that glass bowl is the sediment bowl out of the Gas tank, LOL

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I want to remove the oil pressure activated sediment bowl that was a fail from the factory and put a manual sediment bowl on it

Two words: STACK CAP

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

What

So you're busting the spark plug up, welding up the spark plug hole, re-drilling the spark plug hole and tapping it to do what ??????.

If there is a valve open it won't work

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I pulled the valve cover

Grease Zerk

Why does three in one rust preventer come in plastic can instead of the old reliables metal can? Afraid of rust?

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

No idea

Did you know that the tractor has cock pits on it. Their up under neith. You open them and it will turn over alot easier. When it starts you clise them.ok 7:21

It is not a 52, because it has 1956 rear cast wheels.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Your gonna tell me that they couldn’t have been changed at some point

Turn the starter

How do you plan on getting the grease out of the cylinders? Dumbest solution I ever heard of.

Close them not clise them. Sorry. I've got a 1953 john deere 70 gas. 9:49

Put a nut on it the same as the alimite and weld it

The clutch is stuck

Man guys just be whining on here

To much talk and no action

dont weld the vise shut LOL

not even enough sense to cover the exhaust.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

Did you not notice that I got the engine unstuck so what’s it matter if the exhaust was or wasn’t covered

@Texaskeykeeper

Жыл бұрын

We pulled this out of a fence row where it had been uncovered for many many years. I don't think there was too much harm in a couple more days.

@NebukedNezzer

Жыл бұрын

@@etherbanditsgarage9313 obviously you are not to smart. the exhaust needs to be covered to keep rain/snow precipitation out of the engine. how do you think the engine got stuck in the first place? don't give me grief because of your failures.

@NebukedNezzer

Жыл бұрын

@@Texaskeykeeper you fail to understand. its important for people who have tractors and other engines to keep water out of the exhaust so the engine doesn't rust up inside. you don't mention this so? someone has to.

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You talk too much and haven't worked on nothing. Talk while you work. You're wanting to show us that you're fixing the tractor. Almost half way through you finally start turning a wrench.

@etherbanditsgarage9313

Жыл бұрын

I like to explain what I’m doing and give a little bit of a back story

@miltonodom8576

Жыл бұрын

@@etherbanditsgarage9313the stories are fine but it could be said while youre working. time wasted

@miltonodom8576

Жыл бұрын

@@etherbanditsgarage9313 kinda like whistle while you work

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