John Carpenter trashing Halloween II

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  • @ferox965
    @ferox9653 жыл бұрын

    I always watch the first two back to back.

  • @ColeEdits
    @ColeEdits4 жыл бұрын

    I loved Halloween 3.

  • @truecrevid7750

    @truecrevid7750

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never watched it. But I don't hate it. I just dont like that its a completely different story besides Michael Myers in it on that TV show. But it just doesn't fit in with Halloween Michael Myers.

  • @reviewhead

    @reviewhead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@truecrevid7750 If you’re never watched it, how do you know you don’t hate it? Lol

  • @Rorschach97

    @Rorschach97

    2 жыл бұрын

    3 is underrated

  • @jambi5096

    @jambi5096

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rorschach97 Criminally underrated. Halloween 3 is my favorite Halloween after 1. Idc for 2, 4, 5, h20, and resurrection but Halloween 1, 3, and 6 will always be my favorites.

  • @sylvrbullets

    @sylvrbullets

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol... Halloween 3 was was beyond terrible. I think he got them backwards.

  • @Slasherhorror1980
    @Slasherhorror19803 жыл бұрын

    For a script he was halfassing it sure turned out great. :)

  • @t_man7259

    @t_man7259

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like the original Halloween 2 but I think his dislike was more due to fact he didn't originally want to make a sequel to the original in the first place but the studio demanded it. They even said they would've made with or without his involvement so hey agreed to participate. Strange how the same thing happened with rob zombies Halloween 2 but it was terrible.

  • @patricknewton3005

    @patricknewton3005

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well... it turned out alright...

  • @gameroftheyear1000

    @gameroftheyear1000

    2 ай бұрын

    Halfass is putting it nicely, giving yourself cirrhosis to be able to finish the script is more accurate 😂

  • @travzimmerman1340

    @travzimmerman1340

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@t_man7259 Carpenter nit want to make the movie DOESNT impact thr film at all. H2 is fantastic. Carpenter is an ass-clown.

  • @billslocum9819

    @billslocum9819

    5 күн бұрын

    I think both as a screenwriter and producer Carpenter did not help Rosenthal at all, but the film holds up despite that.

  • @drst2083
    @drst20834 жыл бұрын

    The scene where Michael is in the alley way trying not to be seen, has got to be one of my favorite scenes in all of cinema. I don’t know what it is about that long scene but it gets me every time

  • @Jdubski-dk7ml

    @Jdubski-dk7ml

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that and when he gets mrs elrods knife are my favorite parts of H2

  • @spandexraygun5325

    @spandexraygun5325

    4 жыл бұрын

    And ironically John Carpenter THAT scene and kill on a three day shoot to do capture more footage to make the film better.

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    4 жыл бұрын

    The opening of Halloween 2 is great, the first 5 minutes of him walking around the neighborhood, stealing the knife and killing the chick on the phone is great.

  • @drst2083

    @drst2083

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bear 7453 I love how they sorta paid homage to that scene in the 2018 version too, when Michael was walking thru the neighborhood and ends up in the house and stabs that lady thru her head. All that shit was great! I loved the neon colors too cause it added a real modern touch to the film. That shit was a perfect scene. It made the movie for me!!

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dr St that scene is very solid, starting with the homeage to H2 when Michael bumps into the guy with the jukebox heading towards haddonfield memorial!

  • @a.j.bandido8739
    @a.j.bandido87392 жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show John's brilliance when he was young. Even though he wrote Halloween II as a half hearted attempt and a 6 pack of beers, was it? It was still golden. He may never had created Michael Myers with the intent of franchise monument but that's what his brilliance created. He can knock Halloween II all he wants but that movie is a compendium to the original beginning, middle and end. Complete classic that's never been surpassed.

  • @Mir199x

    @Mir199x

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @erg1947

    @erg1947

    Жыл бұрын

    Basically he wanted to go the anthology direction straight away but the studio insisted on Myers. He eventually agreed to it and to write it since he and Debra Hill didn't make much money from Halloween but he had no ideas.

  • @itgetsdarker

    @itgetsdarker

    11 ай бұрын

    Ex-fucking-actly.

  • @NeonPizza80s

    @NeonPizza80s

    10 ай бұрын

    I thought season of the witch was hands down the best sequel and should of been the second. Basically the anthology route that they originally intended. Michael just wasn't interesting enough to keep around for 10+ sequels imo. He's no Freddy.

  • @ReadyPlayerTomVR

    @ReadyPlayerTomVR

    10 ай бұрын

    @@NeonPizza80s I can't lie I love the Halloween films, even the bad ones like Resurrection I still get a kick out of.. that being said, I always wished they went the anthology route, maybe Carpenter even returning to do a different HALLOWEEN movie without Michael Myers, something original. I think they could have had Michael Myers pop up, or have an easter egg in each film here, and there, showing him on the news, like a shared universe like Trick R Treat where there's all these unique monsters in this Halloween world.

  • @greatvaluestevemcqueen7048
    @greatvaluestevemcqueen70484 жыл бұрын

    1. Halloween II 10/10 2. Halloween 10/10 3. Halloween III 10/10 But that's just me

  • @isaiahholland1816

    @isaiahholland1816

    3 жыл бұрын

    1 h2 10/10 2 h1 5/10 3 h3 3/10

  • @johnhareiel5118

    @johnhareiel5118

    2 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 3 was creepy. I loved it. Morons won't give it a chance being Michael was undeniably dead in part 2. Carpenter said part 2 with Myers wasn't even supposed to happen, but 2 is my favorite of all 3 being it was my introduction to Halloween at 6 yrs old. Scared the ever living Sh*t out of me, especially my Mom working in a hospital

  • @-.-.11

    @-.-.11

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnhareiel5118 Oh I gave H3 a chance and it was horrendous to me. Interesting story that isn’t developed well enough and terrible unlikeable characters. Has nothing to do with whether Michael was in it or not. What they were trying to do with the series by making in an anthology series was a great idea. Problem is they tried to kickstart that with a terribly executed film.

  • @johnhareiel5118

    @johnhareiel5118

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@-.-.11 ehhh, I can respect that. I thought the same thing about the execution. My thing was how creepy it was.

  • @-.-.11

    @-.-.11

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnhareiel5118 Yeah it’s creepy. I guess it just depends on how much creepiness people like in horror movies. For me it went overboard. Thanks for replying. Always nice to hear different opinions.

  • @patrickwork6579
    @patrickwork6579 Жыл бұрын

    I love Halloween II (1981). The intro with the Gothic organ theme music and the pumpkin opening to reveal a skeletal face is the best intro ever to a horror film.

  • @robkearsy2995
    @robkearsy29955 жыл бұрын

    Halloween II dare I say I liked it a tiny bit more than the 1st movie although Halloween from 1978 is still an excellent movie. Both Halloween 78 & Halloween II are slower paced movies but are great.

  • @ricardobjj24
    @ricardobjj242 жыл бұрын

    Everytime I'm in a hospital I think of the Michael Myers movie. It scared me to even wanna spend the night at a hospital

  • @Njbear7453
    @Njbear74534 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 is great, yea it has more gore and is more of the stereotypical “slasher” but it still holds up. Halloween 2 looks, feels, and sounds exactly like the original and you can watch H1 and H2 back to back and it’ll feel like ONE film.

  • @grzyruth9205

    @grzyruth9205

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well sure, minus FAT, GINGER Michael Myers who looks and acts nothing like in the original. And then also shoehorning some "motive" for Michael's killings (which makes it less scary) by making Michael Laurie's brother (a poor attempt at a Star Wars level family drama twist) then yeah it feels like one film.

  • @seanodonnell6947

    @seanodonnell6947

    Жыл бұрын

    but nobody asked or cared about what you said , we are here because we want to hear what john carpenter has to say

  • @TheDudimanu

    @TheDudimanu

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe he would had developed more myers person in the second film than doing the same movie

  • @Courier_333

    @Courier_333

    Жыл бұрын

    2 is nowhere near as good as 1

  • @TheDudimanu

    @TheDudimanu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Courier_333 totally

  • @spandexraygun5325
    @spandexraygun53254 жыл бұрын

    We must remember that despite his criticism here of Halloween II and the director Rick Rosenthal whom John hand picked himself, Rick had no choice but to direct the script given to him written by John Carpenter himself. Rosenthal wanted it to be like the first film in tone and style with less gore, Carpenter purposely wrote the film with more gore to please the market place at the time. He has admitted that his writing of Halloween II was not his best work. Now imagine if they had gone ahead with his original idea of setting the sequel a few years down the line with Laurie in a high rise apartment? But then maybe it’d would’ve been too similar to Carpenters little known earlier movie Someone’s Watching Me set in a high rise. Oh the benefit of hindsight.

  • @spandexraygun5325

    @spandexraygun5325

    4 жыл бұрын

    ourworlds atwar...you’re welcome. There is no more detail regarding plot or story ideas other than the information that this was considered by Carpenter and Debra Hill. However it IS documented and if you google it there is some discussion online somewhere about it.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It still would have only been a slasher of average quality because it wouldn't have had a leading character half as entertaining as Conal Cochrane.

  • @brandonhendrix7223

    @brandonhendrix7223

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just a correction, I think the high rise idea was Yablan's. In an issue of Fangoria Debra Hill shot down the "years later/high rise” idea, basically saying it was not their concept for the sequel and pretty much called it idiotic. So I don't think it was Carpenter's. The whole H2 issue put a big strain on whatever relationship there was between Yablans and Hill/Carpenter; in fact, Yablans was banned from the H2 set and I believe it was the last Halloween movie he had any connection to.

  • @spandexraygun5325

    @spandexraygun5325

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonhendrix7223 I wasnt aware of this information. I would like to learn more as this concept has always fascinated as a sequel idea. In fact today I'm expecting the arrival of Taking Shape II..Lost Halloween Sequels. Hopefully there might be some more insight in there.

  • @brandonhendrix7223

    @brandonhendrix7223

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spandexraygun5325 I gleamed this info from old issues of Fangoria. They used to have a thing called Monster Notes or something like that that would be horror genre news, usually just a paragraph or so on each story. In one issue they do indeed say they will be a sequel to Halloween and will take place some years later and involve Michael stalking Laurie in a Chicago high rise. Well, a few issues later Debra Hill said that wasn't their idea (that it might be Yablans idea is just my assumption) and said it was a stupid idea as Michael wouldn't be able to survive for years without any social skills (one of my issues with H20 funny enough). And that was about all I've ever read of that idea. If Taking Shape 2 sheds any more light on it or has more info let me know as I'm curious myself (who's idea it actually was, etc).

  • @masonroot3784
    @masonroot3784Ай бұрын

    I love that he called it an abomination

  • @hollywoodmkx
    @hollywoodmkx3 жыл бұрын

    I’m no one to say John Carpenter is wrong on “Halloween II,” but he’s wrong.

  • @josefengelhardt2767

    @josefengelhardt2767

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn't want to make another Michael Myers movie he was pressured into writing Halloween II and he had no intention of Michael and Laurie being siblings he admitted he put that there cause he was drunk and was struggling with Writers block

  • @jameswilliams-zr8co

    @jameswilliams-zr8co

    Жыл бұрын

    halloween 2 is just as scary as the original, made me scared to go to hospitals, still to this day..its a solid flick

  • @josefengelhardt2767

    @josefengelhardt2767

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jameswilliams-zr8co I didn't find it scary at all. I found it boring. The first film was scary because Michael was just walking chaos. The sequels ruined that. They constantly made Michael less and less scary with things like Laurie is his sister or Jamie is his Niece. Or in the Rob Zombie remake where they say oh he was abused by his family and he was bullied at school and that's why he's a murderous psychopath. Michael Myers is supposed to be Pure Evil and have no motive he's the boogeyman. I Hated most of the Halloween Sequels Except Season of the Witch which is the only sequel i liked. I only love the First Halloween from 1978. Cause that is a classic and when i watch that i am experiencing that and that alone

  • @thomasffrench3639

    @thomasffrench3639

    3 ай бұрын

    Nah he’s right

  • @travzimmerman1340

    @travzimmerman1340

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@thomasffrench3639 Carpenter is a blow hard that will do ANYTHING for 2 nickels then shit all over it once the check clears. Halloween II, in many ways, is superior to part 1......Unless you like Michael boppin' around in a f'ing station wagon 75% of the time........

  • @ititself5603
    @ititself5603 Жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 way better than Halloween 2018 and it's sequels. Don't making Myers and Laurie siblings don't automatically make your movie the greatest Halloween sequel of all time.

  • @mannyjay2206
    @mannyjay22063 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, Halloween1 is a classic and was my favorite horror film for years but it's actually pretty boring until the last 45 minutes of the movie. After watching Halloween2 more and more it's definitely become my favorite! The continuation from part 1 is phenomenal i think. There's alot more that happens in h2. Definitely the best horror sequel I've ever watched

  • @jaywolfenstien

    @jaywolfenstien

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't agree that H2 is better than the original, but it really is a good movie. Definitely one of the best sequels of all horror.

  • @mannyjay2206

    @mannyjay2206

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox yeah i get the whole stalking through out the movie to build it up for the end. Like i said, nothing happens until the last 45 min of the movie lol I'm not saying part 2 is better i just think more things happen with more detail! In the first movie, you have no clue why he's chasing laurie other than just a a psychopath escaping from a mental institution/hospital. I feel like Halloween 2 is more entertaining all through out the film a lot more than h1

  • @m1lst3r89

    @m1lst3r89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox-Neyhart-May all stuff until the last 30 minutes is almost flaccid. It takes a very slow build up and you basically already this guy who randomly pops up here and there would make a bloodbath, but until then nothing really happens and all teenager characters are bland and boring.

  • @m1lst3r89

    @m1lst3r89

    Жыл бұрын

    @Nick Xero yes, because i am not snobbish viewer who wants to find deeper layers that isn't there. Characters are blanks, Michael is a force of nature that exists only to kill and the world is his playground. End of story. Stop trying to intelectualize a movie doesn't even try to rise from simplicity.

  • @jakebiomask

    @jakebiomask

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mannyjay2206 He has no motive in the original because he's pure evil. A force of nature. That's the entire point. The brother and sister thing just ruins it

  • @hdna12
    @hdna124 жыл бұрын

    The Problem with Halloween II (1981) is the twist they revealed at the last scene of the movie Laurie and Michael Myers are Brother and Sister! To me that turns down the Horror of the movie.

  • @jaywolfenstien

    @jaywolfenstien

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox Yeah, but those flashbacks are hard to ignore ... I love Halloween 2--don't get me wrong--but man the flashbacks downright suck.

  • @doctorsocrates4413
    @doctorsocrates4413 Жыл бұрын

    Halloween 3 is a great film in its own right.

  • @james441
    @james4412 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 is a great film. 40 years old this year.

  • @MrS98VAC
    @MrS98VAC Жыл бұрын

    Have always loved the music score of Halloween II more, as opposed to that of Halloween. It's just so eerie and old school horror sounding.

  • @renzen7199
    @renzen7199 Жыл бұрын

    I agree Halloween 1978 was a one and done in my book anyway and Halloween 3 was awesome

  • @RyMovieGuy
    @RyMovieGuy Жыл бұрын

    I still enjoy a lot about Halloween II (1981), because it still has solid performances and great atmosphere. However, I think the idea of adding more explanations to Michael Myers, and then the twist really bring it down.

  • @a.b.sproductionsllc

    @a.b.sproductionsllc

    11 ай бұрын

    I thought the twist was good, but it really should have been a done deal after 1981. Halloween 3 to me wasn’t so bad like everyone says it was, it was different and the anthology aspect would have been great to have seen unfolded more.

  • @carpenoctem775
    @carpenoctem7752 жыл бұрын

    I still think the sequel is as good as the original.

  • @gameroftheyear1000
    @gameroftheyear10002 жыл бұрын

    John Carpenter Is the reason Halloween II played out the way it did. Rosenthal wanted to make H2 feel like the 1978 original and when Carpenter go ahold of the film towards the end of production, he made all the gory changes to the movie and added a bunch of scenes in that were pointless like the first murder. The only scene that Carpenter added that was great was the security guard exploring the storeroom. That has the trademark Carpenter style of suspense to it.

  • @joeibarra4134

    @joeibarra4134

    2 ай бұрын

    Did John direct that scene or just add it?

  • @gameroftheyear1000

    @gameroftheyear1000

    2 ай бұрын

    @@joeibarra4134 from what I understand, it was one of two murders he added and directed,the other being Alice at the beginning. He also reshot a lot of the close ups and death scenes with more blood and gore apparent as he felt the original cut of the movie was like watching an episode of Quincy M.E. Which was a medical drama at the time.

  • @joeibarra4134

    @joeibarra4134

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gameroftheyear1000 I know he directed that one, just wasn’t sure if he did other ones. Honestly, I like Halloween II more than the original sometimes. II moves faster, the score is better even though it’s mostly the same with more synth. No doubt the original is the better film though.

  • @conalcochran156
    @conalcochran1563 жыл бұрын

    Happy Birthday to John Carpenter!

  • @cinematicmoviedude
    @cinematicmoviedude5 күн бұрын

    Halloween 2 is the best sequel. Hes a nut job

  • @greenman5229
    @greenman52292 жыл бұрын

    I agree, along with all the other sequels (except for H3 since it was not connected) The sequels were not needed. I sometimes imagine if Halloween was just like Black Christmas. A one and done thing how much better it would be.

  • @DevonArcherOsborne
    @DevonArcherOsborne4 жыл бұрын

    It's funny because the guy who directed Halloween 2 would later go on to direct Halloween: Resurrection.

  • @Slasherhorror1980

    @Slasherhorror1980

    3 жыл бұрын

    From the best sequel, to the worst sequel lol

  • @gterrymed
    @gterrymedАй бұрын

    Carpenter definitely had to have directed the last ten minutes of HALLOWEEN II. Everything becomes perfect when they make their way back to the hospital, and the editing for HALLOWEEN II is really good. The TV version is the abomination

  • @ricardobjj24
    @ricardobjj24 Жыл бұрын

    But I do agree that making Laurie Strode the sister was a mistake

  • @chelseafuller8412
    @chelseafuller84122 ай бұрын

    I still love the ORIGINAL plot because that is what I know. 😢

  • @jerry77734
    @jerry7773410 ай бұрын

    maybe if John Carpenter and Debra Hill would of went with they're original story idea for Halloween II with having it take place a few years after the first movie but have it take place in 1981 since that's when Halloween II was released and making it about Michael Myers tracking down Laurie Strode in her new home in a high-rise apartment building and not have Laurie Strode be Michael Myers sister which they should of done maybe John Carpenter would of loved Halloween II.

  • @PresentsCinema
    @PresentsCinema Жыл бұрын

    I agree with him on Halloween 3 being great but disagree on Halloween 2 being bad but to each their own

  • @trayweathersby7490
    @trayweathersby74903 жыл бұрын

    I honestly liked Halloween 2 better than the first Halloween.

  • @ashyslashythehailtotheking626
    @ashyslashythehailtotheking626 Жыл бұрын

    That’s what John Carpenter says. He dislike on Halloween 2 because it was worth it so I watch Halloween 2 1981 but it was good horror movie

  • @TravelinBand747
    @TravelinBand7473 жыл бұрын

    I think Rosenthal did an excellent job with H2. If anything, the added gore scenes that Carpenter shot detracted from the great atmosphere that actually felt like the first movie. Some of the TV scenes were great (and should have been left in the final cut) and the music was awesome, with Alan Howarth bringing in layered synthesizers to augment Carpenter’s original score to give it a modern feel. Carpenter here was speaking only a few years later. Some movies need to be evaluated years down the line. A lot of films that were so-so at the time they were released look a lot better 20 or more years later.

  • @Sky-Liam

    @Sky-Liam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the weakest part of the film is the characterization and performance of the hospital employees. Maybe Carpenter’s dialogue wasn’t quite as sharp without the contributions of Deborah Hill (or he just didn’t care as much), and the actors (who were classmates of Rick Rosenthal I believe) weren’t likable enough. I think some of the kills (particularly the early kitchen scene and the eyeball scene) are very atmospheric and well done. I appreciate the gore personally but can also understand where you’re coming from!

  • @plisskenetic

    @plisskenetic

    Жыл бұрын

    The gore scenes were added coz things weren't scary AT ALL bruh

  • @TravelinBand747

    @TravelinBand747

    Жыл бұрын

    @@plisskenetic The gore scenes were added to bring it in line with other slasher films that had been flooding the market between 1978 and 1981. Carpenter did say the original cut of H2 wasn’t scary, but I think some of the kills were overdone, and didn’t at all line up with how Myers killed in the first film. Nonetheless, they did what they did and the movie is one of my favorites.

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza20662 жыл бұрын

    Rob Zombie completely shit on it

  • @calebvincent8605
    @calebvincent86059 ай бұрын

    It’s funny how much the whole creator of Halloween hates Halloween 2, but it’s one of my favorites

  • @douggherkin
    @douggherkin2 жыл бұрын

    Preferred it to Halloween 1.

  • @bhsmith5496
    @bhsmith5496Ай бұрын

    Carpenter is spot on.

  • @trinitystupidity5458
    @trinitystupidity54584 жыл бұрын

    Psycho, Jaws and Halloween are all stand-alone masterpieces with perfect endings. Forget the sequels.

  • @BackyardPix

    @BackyardPix

    4 жыл бұрын

    I personally prefer Psycho II over Psycho. It's such a terrific character study, and Anthony Perkins is unbelievably good in it. Also think it's a much scarier film than Hitchcock's. The grisly murders and explicit gore is also a plus for me.

  • @Slasherhorror1980

    @Slasherhorror1980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jaws yes, the other two were good follow ups.

  • @benjaminpoblete9166

    @benjaminpoblete9166

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cmon the psycho sequels are underrated

  • @jdxsr85

    @jdxsr85

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah Psycho II is very good.

  • @Ravenscroft82
    @Ravenscroft824 күн бұрын

    He's absolutely right. The story of Michael Meyers lost its power after the first film. There should have been no sequels with him.

  • @rubenreyna2198
    @rubenreyna21985 ай бұрын

    Director Rick Rosenthal did go on to direct some good movies outside the horror genre. Bad Boys with Sean Penn , & an abuse film Called Radio Flyer

  • @shanenolan085
    @shanenolan08511 ай бұрын

    Halloween 2 is a nice follow up... didnt make as much money as the original, but it still holds up 💯 Halloween 3 was okay because it was different ans they were trying to so away with Michael Myers but fans at that time wouldnt let hin die unfortunately...

  • @stevenjennings5160
    @stevenjennings5160 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy Halloween 2 more than original Halloween because it feels more like Halloween night. Halloween 78 looks like it was filmed in California during early Spring (which it was) so it took away from the whole Fall/Halloween look unfortunately. Plus the dialogue is atrocious in Halloween 78. Still a great flick tho

  • @mack-uv6gn
    @mack-uv6gn Жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 was good in my opinion

  • @CAVlogs121
    @CAVlogs1212 жыл бұрын

    I love Halloween II

  • @travis_mitchell
    @travis_mitchell3 жыл бұрын

    Haha looks like Venkeman ran out o guests for World of the Psychic really fast.

  • @plan9fromsyracuse

    @plan9fromsyracuse

    2 жыл бұрын

    😄 underrated post and well done. I see what you did there.

  • @opheliasfall
    @opheliasfall Жыл бұрын

    I love Halloween II and III.

  • @kerruo2631
    @kerruo2631 Жыл бұрын

    I liked it a lot

  • @Oxbloodmage
    @Oxbloodmage Жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's an abomination, I think where it fails is more in the script than in the execution. and Halloween 3 I'm with Carpenter

  • @russellthompson9271
    @russellthompson92719 ай бұрын

    A rare occasion I have heard John talk about Halloween III.

  • @evrencelik5838
    @evrencelik58383 жыл бұрын

    John Carpenter 👍🤗 Halloween 2 Halloween 4 Halloween 3

  • @AdamSheehan-pm8zq
    @AdamSheehan-pm8zq6 ай бұрын

    I prefer 2 to 1 its more entertaining 1 over does its role as a slow burn

  • @KINGTRAGIC1
    @KINGTRAGIC13 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 is a better film than Halloween, love them both, but part 2 was just better...3 was good too.

  • @abductedbyhorror1238
    @abductedbyhorror1238Ай бұрын

    Even he hates it, awesome. I’m further justified in my love for Halloween 3.

  • @masonroot3784

    @masonroot3784

    Ай бұрын

    Every sequel sucks in my opinion, not really including Halloween 3 in this franchise. Did you like Halloween (2018)? That is the only sequel I liked in any way at all.

  • @GavinsProductionsNetwork
    @GavinsProductionsNetwork Жыл бұрын

    I disagree with John carpenter I think Halloween 2 is excellent I really love that film i think it’s a true sequel to the first Halloween and it feels exactly like the 1978 film also without Halloween 2 we would have not gotten everyone’s favorite Halloween movies

  • @thoughtsurferzone5012
    @thoughtsurferzone50122 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 should have stuck to its original title, Mikey and Laurie have fun at the Hospital.

  • @jamesgreen5371
    @jamesgreen5371 Жыл бұрын

    I like Halloween 2 its one of my favorite sequels

  • @truecrevid7750
    @truecrevid77503 жыл бұрын

    John Carpenter: Halloween 2 is a horrible movie.. Creates Halloween 4 still having Lommis and Michael after that fire of Halloween 2.

  • @petergriffin4513

    @petergriffin4513

    3 жыл бұрын

    John carpenter probably was trying to make his own sequel to his own movie and cause he hated the second one so he probably doesn't count halloween 2 so halloween 4 is probably the sequel to halloween 1 but it's just called halloween 4

  • @scottwarnick5126

    @scottwarnick5126

    2 жыл бұрын

    John Carpenter had nothing to do with Halloween 4 at all him and Debra Hill sold there rights to Akkad

  • @joeibarra4134

    @joeibarra4134

    2 ай бұрын

    He didn’t write 4

  • @rubenreyna2198
    @rubenreyna2198 Жыл бұрын

    I remember loving the trailers for Halloween 2 & then finally watching that brilliant opening with the new synthesizer score & skull emerging from inside the Jack O Lantern. The film was just bleh after that. Got tired of hearing Loomis endless speeches of why Myers is a monster. Sheriff Bracket was a jerk before finding out Annie was dead. The hospital staff were just all morons. The kills weren't even inventive. The State trooper was a buffoon. My head hurts now

  • @BradwillB
    @BradwillB Жыл бұрын

    What John doesn't say here is that HE had to go back, reshoot scenes after the original director was finished, add scares, and gore. He had to save Part 2 from disaster. Rick Rosenthal was the director of part 2 (and Resurrection), and he shit the bed.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots Жыл бұрын

    you know considering how many people hate the laurie is his sister thing i expected more people to agree with him here

  • @waynedoyle5584
    @waynedoyle5584 Жыл бұрын

    halloween 2 is just as good if not better than first ....just look at comments here ....futhermore ....halloween has one audio commertary ....part 2 has 3 AUDIO COMMTARIES ....because people love part 2 and want to know more than the first....put that in ya pipe and smoke it john,s ego

  • @shredmaster2009
    @shredmaster20092 жыл бұрын

    I agree with him, I think H2 is pretty rough in retrospect.

  • @sgillman16
    @sgillman164 жыл бұрын

    Jokes on him. I like Halloween 2 better than the first

  • @pumpkinking5174

    @pumpkinking5174

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think he cares

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of people feel the same, halloween 2 is my personal favorite but the original is better.

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joe Kinchicken I agree 110%!

  • @TravelinBand747

    @TravelinBand747

    3 жыл бұрын

    He made plenty of money from it, so he’s laughing all the way to the bank.

  • @brucemcdonald5089

    @brucemcdonald5089

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too!!!

  • @YZdude
    @YZdude7 ай бұрын

    Halloween II is the best one out of them all 🤷 hate to disagree with the man himself

  • @a.b.sproductionsllc
    @a.b.sproductionsllc11 ай бұрын

    He’s trashing a masterpiece. I think Halloween II was scarier then the first one.

  • @Rorschach97
    @Rorschach9711 ай бұрын

    I like Halloween ll, regardless what Carpenter says about it, I think it's the best sequel, 3 was pretty good.

  • @natalieterrazas2747
    @natalieterrazas27472 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 1 was perfect Halloween 2 was good

  • @artosin
    @artosin Жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 IS better than Ends John...

  • @chrisb8655

    @chrisb8655

    9 ай бұрын

    WAY better.

  • @Thunderchild-gz4gc

    @Thunderchild-gz4gc

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@chrisb8655End was a horrible finish

  • @NeoReoxis
    @NeoReoxis2 жыл бұрын

    John was spitting here ngl

  • @gregorbegger9291
    @gregorbegger92913 жыл бұрын

    How was this man uninterested in a sequel when he left the doors open for one?

  • @jeanniehodges9424

    @jeanniehodges9424

    3 жыл бұрын

    He trashed Halloween ii which is arguably as good as the first, but loves the 2018 movie? Yeah that’s nuts Money money money

  • @jeanniehodges9424

    @jeanniehodges9424

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Hunter87788 yet he loves the 2018 one? Ok.....

  • @spukman696

    @spukman696

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeanniehodges9424 Back then it was a different time, he compares Halloween II to the movies he did back then, back then nearly every movie he worked on was either great or a masterpiece (imp). Back then he directed Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween, The Fog, Escape from New York, The Thing, Christine, Starman and produced Halloween III: Season of the Witch which are in comparsion to Halloween II far better (imp). Now to your real question: "why does he like Halloween (2018)...that is soooo nuts...money money money...bla bla bla", well the answer is quite easy to solve: when he worked on Halloween II, he was the writer, producer and the composer. But when he worked on Halloween (2018) he was only the EXECUTIVE producer and the composer. I also have questions to you: -Where is the source of him saying that? -Did you knew that if it's true that John Carpenter likes Halloween (2018) more than Halloween II it's still Carpenters own opinion, and not yours? -Do you even have a little knowlegde of cinema?

  • @jamesknightley4201

    @jamesknightley4201

    Жыл бұрын

    @spukman69 - I've never seen anyone delete comments (after being proven wrong) quite so fast. Nice work!!

  • @michaelsievewright8581
    @michaelsievewright85812 жыл бұрын

    I respect John carpenter but Halloween 2 is not as good as the first but that's a high standard but it is a good movie much better sequel than the recent films and Halloween 3 it just not good as a halloween film but as a solo horror movie it's good we've all came up with ideas for halloween 2 but the hospital the twist I'm sorry but it's one of my favourite horror films just watched it yesterday and still hold up

  • @retrostudios894
    @retrostudios8942 жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty fucked that he would trash Rick Rosenthal when all the things he hates about Halloween 2 were literally things he wrote in the script himself. Personally, Rick did an amazing job with Halloween 2. A perfect sequel to the original film of you ask me.

  • @pumpkinking5174

    @pumpkinking5174

    Жыл бұрын

    Carpenter re-shot and added several scenes to clean up Rosenthal's direction.

  • @jamesknightley4201

    @jamesknightley4201

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pumpkinking5174 He added scenes for more gore.... he didn't "clean up" anything.

  • @outpost31737

    @outpost31737

    Жыл бұрын

    H2 is garbage.

  • @89whodatcha
    @89whodatcha Жыл бұрын

    Halloween 3 love!!!!! I don’t care for the franchise. But Halloween is a film I watch every year…Halloween 3 is cult classic, the score for that movie which John is excellent as well. H2 has the kills but it’s pretty boring

  • @agreedboarart3188
    @agreedboarart31882 жыл бұрын

    I think it's hilarious that he trashed Halloween II but praised Halloween III when the latter has cardboard-cutout characters that are never fleshed out. The main character is a serial-spanking misogynist of a doctor who decides to become a detective all of a sudden, and he meets a trusty sidekick who, like him, has no fluidity to her personality. I don't remember many of the other "characters," and that really says a lot about the writing of that film. Keep in mind, I like Halloween III, but it's so much worse than Halloween II from a critical perspective.

  • @Bawitdabadabangdadang
    @Bawitdabadabangdadang5 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halloween 2018

  • @007beck9

    @007beck9

    5 жыл бұрын

    Halloween ll (1981)

  • @stoned466
    @stoned4664 жыл бұрын

    Original Halloween is the best, Halloween 2 is an average movie

  • @jeanniehodges9424

    @jeanniehodges9424

    3 жыл бұрын

    But that’s just an average opinion

  • @darthtrip7188
    @darthtrip71885 жыл бұрын

    1.) Halloween (1978) 2.) Halloween (2018) 3.) Halloween 2 (1981) 4.) Halloween 4 : The Return Of Michael Myers 5.) The rest.

  • @BackyardPix

    @BackyardPix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! Gonna be interesting to see where they will go with the next ones.

  • @Jdubski-dk7ml

    @Jdubski-dk7ml

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BackyardPix probably a bunch of unnecessary shit scenes and unnecessary comic relief unfortunately

  • @robomnemonic3751

    @robomnemonic3751

    4 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2018 does not belong up there in my opinion it lacks the atmosphere from the older halloween movies like the original, H2 and H4

  • @rickytrottier5505
    @rickytrottier55054 жыл бұрын

    Halloween III >>>> Halloween II

  • @peak2381

    @peak2381

    3 жыл бұрын

    bs.

  • @aheedx
    @aheedx Жыл бұрын

    They didn't have a feel for Halloween Ends apparently. That movie is a dog turd.

  • @Maniac1607
    @Maniac16072 ай бұрын

    1 - 4 are worthy. After that...

  • @SatanicAussie
    @SatanicAussie2 жыл бұрын

    Rosenthal did a phenomenal job with Halloween II. However, he did an absolutely horrendous job with Halloween Resurrection. He went from doing the best sequel to doing the absolute worst. Halloween III is also a solid flick, but Halloween II to me is the best sequel in the franchise

  • @user-ye9zy9xr2x
    @user-ye9zy9xr2x20 күн бұрын

    Loved 1-5 … 6 was just OK and the rest after that including Rob Zombies movies and the last trilogy were god awful

  • @mannyg.forever5730
    @mannyg.forever57303 жыл бұрын

    Halloween II was more terrifying than the orignal imo. They are my top 2 favorites of the entire franchise.

  • @LJ-wm1bl
    @LJ-wm1bl2 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 2 is shit. The first is objectively better.

  • @billlozier5551
    @billlozier55513 жыл бұрын

    HALLOWEEN 2 was set in the hospital. The atmosphere just wasn't scary but I will admit the nurses were all hot!

  • @jayrob846
    @jayrob846 Жыл бұрын

    H2 81 is a classic one of the greatest sequals of all time in my view that one movieis greater than the garbage current trilogy combined.

  • @GavinsProductionsNetwork

    @GavinsProductionsNetwork

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @Jayskiallthewayski
    @Jayskiallthewayski9 ай бұрын

    When the dude that created the original, characters, script, music, everything says Halloween 2 is a pos and everyone still goes "Well, it's a great movie". That's like someone painting another Mona Lisa and DaVinci says how much he hates it but everyone tells him otherwise. Dick Warlock even said he didn't really liked what Nick Castle did with Michael Myers which probably makes you the dumbest mofo on the planet. Halloween 2 sucks cause Carpenter said so, period.

  • @LarryFleetwood8675

    @LarryFleetwood8675

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree with him here, I love H3 and not so much H2.

  • @renan.csmaia
    @renan.csmaia2 жыл бұрын

    That hospital was too dark and empty...

  • @jamesknightley4201
    @jamesknightley4201 Жыл бұрын

    He calls HII "an abomination and a horrible movie" but he endorses (and worked on) Halloween Ends?!? So.... Rick Rosenthal didn't "have a feel for the material" but DGG does?!? The suspense/thriller/drama known as Halloween Ends has the right "feel"?????? Psh. What a joke.

  • @zdf14
    @zdf145 жыл бұрын

    I never liked Halloween II much. 2018 is a much better direct sequel imo.

  • @zdf14

    @zdf14

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox What exactly did it botch? No it wasn't perfect, but neither is Halloween II. Far from it. I'm completely with Carpenter on this subject, Halloween II is not as good as it's made out to be.

  • @zdf14

    @zdf14

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox Tl;dr

  • @zdf14

    @zdf14

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox Nah, I've had this conversation many times before, and I still stand by my opinion. I don't feel like taking the time to argue once again. Movie opinions are subjective. I like 2018, and don't like Halloween II. Your opinions aren't going to change that, so therefore, TL;DR

  • @zdf14

    @zdf14

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jarred Knox Plus you tried saying it didn't illuminate anything, one thing being Laurie's trauma. Straight up fucking wrong. That was a main focus. You either didn't watch the movie or are just ignoring certain things the movie DID succeed with. Honestly, I could make the same vague points with 2018 that you're making about Halloween II.

  • @SoapNugget
    @SoapNuggetАй бұрын

    Halloween II is one of the worst sequels ever made, it ruined the franchise forever, Season of the Witch is the 2nd best of the franchise.

  • @pumpkinking5174
    @pumpkinking51744 жыл бұрын

    Halloween II is very overrated.

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    4 жыл бұрын

    No it’s not.

  • @gregorbegger9291

    @gregorbegger9291

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really. In fact it’s pretty underrated

  • @jeanniehodges9424

    @jeanniehodges9424

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gregorbegger9291 your right 2018 is the overrated one

  • @DylanCarverFilm
    @DylanCarverFilm3 жыл бұрын

    1. John Carpenter's Halloween 2. Halloween III: Season of the Witch 3. Halloween 2018 4. The rest

  • @joeibarra4134

    @joeibarra4134

    2 ай бұрын

    Get that 2018 shit outta here

  • @AlexJEdits
    @AlexJEdits3 жыл бұрын

    He likes Halloween 3? That movie was a disaster.

  • @hollywoodmkx

    @hollywoodmkx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it definitely wasn’t a disaster. In fact, it’s probably the best sequel.

  • @AlexJEdits

    @AlexJEdits

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hollywoodmkx I don’t know about that, mate. It was far out from the rest and I’ll give it that much credit.

  • @plisskenetic
    @plisskenetic Жыл бұрын

    I agree with Carpenter. Part 2 is so ridiculously overrated AF. Everything in it was a step down even making Laurie a mute who's hardly in the movie doing literally nothing, Loomis acts like a cartoon maniac, the music felt lame like a midget, lame scares the worst being Myers popping up from bottom frame like on a trampoline & Myers didn't at all act or move like Castle one bit - hate tht u could see his eyes all the time, etc. Those that loved warlock clearly don't pay attention to details.

  • @amilcarmusah4218

    @amilcarmusah4218

    3 ай бұрын

    What makes you think that? I'm very attentive to details, and I like Dick Warlock, but I don't like Nick Castle at all.

  • @wabbitpoop
    @wabbitpoop3 жыл бұрын

    Halloween 3 is hot garbage.

  • @hollywoodmkx

    @hollywoodmkx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Halloween III is arguably the best sequel in the entire series. It’s original, atmospheric, the soundtrack by John Carpenter and Alan Howarth is incredible, the ending was taboo and dark, the cinematography was very good with rural Northern California and just very creepy overall. Anyone that calls it hot garbage is entitled to their opinion, but clearly doesn’t know a quality horror film if it bit them on the ass.

  • @josefengelhardt2767
    @josefengelhardt2767 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with Carpenter. I didn't Halloween II at all. I didn't like the subplot of Michael and Laurie being siblings. Carpenter admitted he only wrote that cause he was struggling with writers block and was drunk. Halloween 1978 is a great horror one and done story that Should've never been a franchise ever

  • @dobr4481
    @dobr44817 ай бұрын

    He's absolutely correct, Halloween II is garbage. Halloween III has an intriguing premise by Nigel Kneale, is superbly photographed & suspenseful with a great performance by Dan O'Herlihy, it's just the Tom Atkins parts which ruin it & given that he's in most of the film this presents a problem. Mind you I saw Halloween again lately & found it rather dull & plodding.

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