Imagine how TLOU would have turned out if Ellie were the one who got killed...game wouldn't have even been half as long, Joel woulda gone on an unrelenting killing spree.

@zakapholiac9377

3 жыл бұрын

Joel would’ve gave Bryan Mills a run for his money

@zakapholiac9377

2 жыл бұрын

@Gabe Hall bruh I’m talking about the first last of us. He is in his late 40’s actually. In his 50’s in part 2

@gergopiroska5749

2 жыл бұрын

@Gabe Hall Joel in the first game was 49 And turned 50 at the end of the game So he was 55 in TLOU 2

@captainprice3715

2 жыл бұрын

He would become a sober trevor phillips in my honest opinion

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Joel would of lost all his character development and probably become more evil than he was in the first game.

You gotta admit, Nora's death was pretty damn cold.

@JSwaggDon

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it because she was talking shit about Joel's death before it happened ☑️

@h.a9115

4 жыл бұрын

After they killed joel. Nahh

@ssnewp2340

3 жыл бұрын

@@h.a9115 You don't have to like what they did, but I don't understand how anyone can play the game and not know WHY they killed Joel. He killed their friends, and "stole" any hope humanity had of a vaccine. It's painful, but Joel's action was always gonna come around eventually

@LuisMartinez-en8pf

3 жыл бұрын

@@ssnewp2340 EXACTLY this. There's no pure "evil" in this world. At least not most people, just people trying to survive with their own motivations, struggles, and heartbreak with people they love and are trying to protect

@javonmccovery3081

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssnewp2340 EXACTLY, people just don't like realistic shit to happen if it gets a character they like killed😭

This represents very well how ellie try to be joel but she isnt

@TitoTheHonduran

4 жыл бұрын

She wasn’t trying to be like him, she was only doing what he taught her.

@seriousspaghetti7988

4 жыл бұрын

She is not trying

@hbkrvd3166

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t really matter if Ellie try to be like Joel or not. In the end she kills them both just as Joel and Tommy....LOL

@brxnv_

4 жыл бұрын

@@TitoTheHonduran she was trying to be like Joel Neil Druckman mentioned it in his interview

@user-jv8mg9gi2s

4 жыл бұрын

Joel is meant to be a hardcore, stone cold killer. I just don’t think Ellie had that same instinct in her because she did it so poorly

3:05 Joel would have killed Owen before he took that second step

@Fuhck_mike

3 жыл бұрын

Yes Joel was bout that shit

@bouncypomatoes2267

2 жыл бұрын

Even Jerry was afraid of Joel

@R.o.M02

Жыл бұрын

All Ellie had to do was shoot Owen in the leg then that’s it the interrogation would’ve gone smoothly could’ve cooperated then killed them in the end the exact same way Joel did it

Ellie is only 18/19, she’s still a kid in some ways/a young adult. I don’t think Joel ever taught her how to torture information out of people, which is whys her attempt was so horrible, she didn’t knock them out, like owen and mel, or have power over them, unlike she did with Nora. she’s not fully “street smart”. But Joel DID tell Ellie about the method since she mentioned it and how it works but you can tell she isn’t like Joel at all bc how traumatised she is after Nora and Mel. Ellie was always under a “home” unlike Joel was when the outbreak happened. Its really cool to compare how they both are so different while using the same method

@tjjohnson1675

3 жыл бұрын

I back you up on that because what Ellie should’ve done was either tap Owen kneecaps or mostly be aware of her surrounds but still it couldn’t went worst

@daobinchen4018

3 жыл бұрын

I think Ellie kept trying to hype herself up into thinking she was ready to torture Nora as well as Owen and Mel, but her moral apprehension and fear is what held her back. She even explicitly tells Nora that she doesn't have to torture her, all she needs is the information as to where Abby is and she would leave Nora to peacefully die from spore/fungal infection. She was trying to show mercy. And even after she brutalizes and tortures Nora, Ellie scrambles back to Dina as an emotional wreck because she's never done something like that before. She feels tainted and morally burdened as to what she had to do. Same thing for Mel and Owen, she just kinda plopped herself in there with a loaded gun and one of the first things she says AGAIN is that she doesn't have to hurt anybody, all she wants is to know where Abby is. Ellie is young and wreckless and driven by rage and a lust for revenge and justice, but when met with the true gravity of what she must do, she's completely disarmed and unprepared. I like that. It shows her humanity underneath her grief and anger

@LuisMartinez-en8pf

3 жыл бұрын

Well Joel has practice Ellie learned a lot from Joel, including how to hate. But Joel's got 30+ years experience on her, remember Joel and Tommy used to be hunters. However Joel would have told Ellie to move on with her life and let him rest in peace(up there with his daughter). Joel would have wished for Ellie to live a relatively peaceful life with Dina. Joel slaughtered, tortured, and killed for the survival of Ellie. After 20+ years of the apocalypse, he had grown cold and numb for everything except Ellie "you have to keep finding something to fight for." Ellie was killing out of bloodlust and rage. Also is it just me, or did Ellie's killing of Nora with that pipe make a perfect analogy of Joel's killing of that hunter, in the torture room. Joel quickly and remorselessly slaughters that sitting guy with that pipe. Ellie doesnt want to bludgeon Nora at the end, but rage takes over and she ends up doing the same to Nora. Albeit, in a very sloppy way which actually leads to a more painful death. Ellie's torture leads to an extremely painful death for Mel due to the lack of cold precision that Joel had

@Parasiticism

3 жыл бұрын

Ellie and Dina come across Tommy doing the exact same thing Joel did and Ellie even explains the trick, i believe she even says "You tie them up". She knows, but fails hilariously nonetheless.

@lunaamaya_

3 жыл бұрын

Carrion Hound She really does, but I personally don’t think that’s how Ellie is, she knows how to do it and has seen it but she can’t actually execute it properly hence the massive fail-

The difference is Joel knows how to do his shit.

@seriousspaghetti7988

4 жыл бұрын

Diego Nin thats not the point

@diegonin5181

4 жыл бұрын

@@seriousspaghetti7988 Whats the point then?

@seriousspaghetti7988

4 жыл бұрын

Diego Nin 1) ellie is literally 19 years old and never learned to properly torture someone as we can see (in fact joel mentioned the strategy that he used in the first game) 2) in this scenario ellie wasnt able to get the upper hand as she couldnt find a way to block and questioning both of them ( but she still managed to kill Owen and Mel) 3) she knows how to do “this shit” because she achieved an info by Nora by torturing and killing her 4) that’s not the fucking point as you cant compare Joel (who is older and has more experience) to Ellie (that learned from him and she is literally a far younger) 5) if ellie knocked the two liked joel did then the outcome would have been the same (unlucky ellie found mel and owen and just pointed a gun to them: she could not have done anything apart from what she actually did, maybe shooting to someone’s leg but that would have been risky) Main thing here is that this 2 scenarios are different and cant be compared

@Mruninteresting

4 жыл бұрын

The Prodigy not exactly, the point of the comparison is to showcase the difference between Ellie and Joel: Joel is professional and efficient, he doesn’t waste any time and is cool as Ice in integrations. Ellie on the other hand is more sloppy and emotional, the game even tells you this in dialogue between Ellie and Dina About tommy and Joel’s violent past and their Ruthless methods.

@Mruninteresting

4 жыл бұрын

The Prodigy also Ellie didn’t get the information from Nora she took her map, you can literally see WLF markings on the map.

"It's alright. I believe him." That's some badass shit yo

@javonmccovery3081

2 жыл бұрын

fr yo

*"she a little confused but she got the spirit!"*

Joel's one is the best

@jacecrawford52

4 жыл бұрын

Yea bc it actually worked😂

@lium54

4 жыл бұрын

In the two case Is death

@georgefloyd7444

3 жыл бұрын

Jace Crawford i said to my self the exact same thing

@Shanny0

3 жыл бұрын

wish we saw how tommy did it in action

@sonofanarchy6254

3 жыл бұрын

Well hes alot more intimidating tbh

0:56 “focus, right here - right here” that’s cold the way he says it.

difference is Joel wouldve shot owen in the leg the moment he got closer and made the pregnant chick point anyway

@harverc229

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Joel being there instead of Ellie had he survived. What would’ve happened especially after experiencing near death!?

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@harverc229 Joel wouldn't be there unless Ellie was dead.

3:34 hey that's not what happened

@diegonin5181

4 жыл бұрын

No shit sherlock

@X_Abyss_X

4 жыл бұрын

@@diegonin5181 When people don't understand sarcasm

@AGermanwithaMG42

3 жыл бұрын

@@X_Abyss_X he probably already understood what you said....

@lukeharperistrash2914

2 жыл бұрын

@@AGermanwithaMG42 no he did not

Joel is much more controlled. He doesn’t act irrationally. Shows the level of maturity that Joel possesses while Ellie is new to this sort of thing Joel’s been doing it for decades.

What everybody like to forget is that Joel and Ellie are humans. They either make mistakes or be ruthless in a post-apocalyptic world like other humans do.

@zanetlou1689

2 жыл бұрын

But now some dumb people think that Joel and Ellie was the villain and Abby is the "Saviour" nah I don't get this sh*t

@DinosaurNick

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanetlou1689 There is no villain or savior here ... just 2 sides doing what they think is right ... and getting revenge for the loss of a father

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanetlou1689 Wow talking about missing the entire them of the games. You aren't supposed to think anyone is a "saviour" Abby and her groups actions were no more or less justified than Joel and Ellie's actions

I'm sorry, how am I supposed to feel bad for Mel? She made such a stupid decision endangering herself and her unborn kid by going out on these missions and disregarding Owen's concern (Which Owen's still a piece of shit for cheating on her with Abby so he doesn't get out of this either) for the kid. "Baw, I'm a wahman and it's not his choice what I decide to do, even if it puts my unborn baby in harm's way." Also damn, I forgot how well Joel knew how to get shit done.

@TheChildofAuraReborn

3 жыл бұрын

@@menzzle210 Nah, Mel made the conscious decision to do stupid shit while she was pregnant, there's no shifting blame on this one.

@russian_knight

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheChildofAuraReborn lmao he deleted his comment

@TheChildofAuraReborn

2 жыл бұрын

@@russian_knight I just don't get how we couldn't agree that more than one person in a situation can be a dumbass. I wasn't trying to get him to delete, I just don't believe in this "muh blameless wahmen" shtick.

@russian_knight

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheChildofAuraReborn what did he say?

@TheChildofAuraReborn

2 жыл бұрын

@@russian_knight Just some goofy garbage over how it was Owen’s fault too or something. Edit: Actually I think he said it wasn’t Mel’s fault at all, trying to say Mel did nothing wrong making the choices she made, which... well I mean she and her baby are dead.

What's tragic is Joel still had so much to teach her. Like real life, losing a loved one always feels too soon.

Imagine joel being this badass to getting beaten by a golf club

@uchihaseclipse7123

4 жыл бұрын

true....

@attorneyinbirdlaw9537

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it tends to be pretty easy to get beaten to death by a golf club right after your legs been blown off by a shotgun.

@klv8037

4 жыл бұрын

@@attorneyinbirdlaw9537 but joels not that dumb to go in a room with a bunch of strangers and say his name

@plzletmein3267

4 жыл бұрын

YoBoiKhalsom he probably got too soft

@leonardofurtado294

4 жыл бұрын

@@plzletmein3267 yea the dude who didn't even trust ellie in the first game just magically got soft and stupid, disregarding 20 years of straight survival

Joel establishes complete physical and psychological dominance from the get-go. He doesn't even need to finish his method because he's able to correctly read that first man's answer as the truth. Ellie has the right idea and a good start with the gunpoint initiative but the execution is horrible and clumsy at best. She seems to be shaken under emotion and pressure, not asserting full control of the situation. Not only is her attempt full of holes, just yelling demands, allowing them to be close enough to get right up in her face, but Owen has full vision of the map and where Mel points to from where he's standing. Even if they complied they could both lie and point to the same spot. Ellie's lack of experience shows and the execution is night and day.

@memeliciousletmemesbrighte4150

Жыл бұрын

True, Joel would just shoot both in the leg, tie them up and than starts his interrogation-routine.

elli have something like emotional that can make her fail to get information but not for joel

@waiyanmyintoo8401

3 жыл бұрын

Really ? As I recalled both times he interrogated! Ellie is in grave danger ! Isnt it emotional enough?

@leila6528

3 жыл бұрын

@@waiyanmyintoo8401 i think what they meant is that ellie might have felt bad and emotional for owen/mel, while joel didnt really care about the people who he was interrogating. he just wanted ellie back.

Thank you for reminding everyone why we love Joel and his legacy.

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Joel was a monster who doomed humanity to extinction because of his selfish personal feelings. If you played through the end of the game and thought "wow Joel sure was a good guy who saved Ellie from those mean doctors!" then you didn't get the point of the ending.

@menacingsweeper2692

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielshepard1449 Those Fireflies weren’t good either. Their terrorist who bombed buildings at the western district. Marleen who lied about the guns who promised she’ll give to Joel and Tess as their reward. They were marching Joel out but without his supplies or reward, how do you expect Joel to travel across a country without his guns or a vehicle. They were practically going to kill him just by making him walk out there and die. Experiment 13 people who have died trying to make a cure. Last, they never had Ellie’s consent so they never gave her a choice.

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@menacingsweeper2692 Exactly. There are no heroes and villains in the story, so stop trying to make Joel a hero. He's one of the most flawed characters in the game. None of the fireflies did anything even as close to as bad as Joel did when he killed humanity's only chance for a cure and doomed the world to extinction. They weren't going to kill Joel, you are just making things up now to cope and justify Joel's decision. The 13 infected they experimented on before were not immune, which was why they couldn't make a cure. Ellie already said in the 2nd game given the choice she would chose to sacrifice herself. And even if she didn't, you could argue that doing the operation was the right decision anyways to save potentially billions of future lives.

@menacingsweeper2692

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielshepard1449 Really look at the first game again. They weren’t gonna give Joel his bag or a vehicle to help him safely travel across a country to his home. How is he going to survive? You’re ignoring the Fireflies actions, only focusing on Joel. Fireflies still didn’t give Ellie a choice and didn’t even let Joel see her and say his goodbye. No, they threat Joel with a gun and Marleen didn’t comfort him or give him a reward as she promised to Tess and Joel. No, she said stuff like” whatever it is you’re going through is nothing to what l’ve been through” comparing her life to Joel. That’s a shitty thing to do. If those 13 experiments weren’t immune than why risk killing them. And don’t say it was to save humanity as an excuse to justify killing a kid. That makes the fireflies a hypocrite and way worse than Joel. You expect Joel to just walk away with a thought that their gonna open the kid skull. Tommy even said I wouldn’t have done any different. Even Marleen didn’t like the idea.

@menacingsweeper2692

2 жыл бұрын

@UC1gsVlK6YAsGWI98WXT1UHg They literally didn’t give Joel his bag. Marleen said” march him out of here, tries anything shoot him” not any sort of transportation. They just gonna make Joel walk out without his weapons to defend himself, hoping infected or hunters will kill him. Joel is selfish? So Fireflies are not selfish for killing a kid or not comforting or rewarding Joel. But instead make him walk out with nothing but a thought that they gonna kill the child, not even at least see her once before she goes. Joel literally travel across a country protecting Ellie. Something the Fireflies couldn’t do knowing that they been getting killed left and right trying to retrieve Ellie. And that’s the thanks Joel gets. So selfish of Joel. Plus they said a vaccine not a cure. Those are two different things. Meaning it will not help the people who are already infected. But probably will help non-infected people be immune to bites like Ellie. Knowing the Fireflies getting killed by military soldiers even hunters. They become a weaker faction but with Ellie’s immunity, they can strengthen their clan and probably used it for their own intentions. Knowing the Fireflies are ruthless to Joel because they don’t know him so what makes you think they will give a vaccine to the people they don’t know anything about them. Which is the whole world. Did you forget the world view the Fireflies as terrorist because they been bombing buildings.

Ellie could’ve fired a shot on the knee during her interrogations.

@arandomperson5434

3 жыл бұрын

Then they'll bleed out quicker. You'll risk hitting their femoral artery.

@brandontse6465

3 жыл бұрын

@@arandomperson5434 In other words, Joel stabbed a man on the knee during interrogation.

@arandomperson5434

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandontse6465 A blade would help block the artery for a bit then he took it out. It was evident that he would not let them go.

@R.o.M02

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomperson5434could’ve used that to her advantage since Mel is a doctor like point to where she is and you can “save” him prob would’ve killed them both after regardless but yh she would’ve gotten what she wanted if she shot owen in the leg

Would love to see Joel and Tommy before the main timeline. I'd imagine it being an extremely dark story, especially since Joel is so violent and aggressive in this scene plus many others and references of what they have done before, him and Tommy.

She was doing what she was taught, what she learned from Joel. Shes 18 so shes still learning, but that brings up her living in Joels shadow, and shes not herself until the end when she wakes up and realizes what shes doing. Idk if this makes any sense❤

@dudewitmomcut4314

3 жыл бұрын

Ellie wait a minute ur Ellie talking about Ellie in the 3rd person

@mystrangeaddiction5646

3 жыл бұрын

@@dudewitmomcut4314 lol. Just a fan account lol. But it is funny reading it from your perspective 😆

@D1andOnly12

3 жыл бұрын

Joel didn’t teach her that. Tommy told her stories about the shit they did in the past, which is how she knows this method. The purpose of this scene is to emphasize how Ellie is trying to be like Joel, but she isn’t.

@mystrangeaddiction5646

3 жыл бұрын

@@D1andOnly12 i get you

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

@@D1andOnly12 how is Ellie "trying" to be like Joel?

:D I wonder what Bill's up to about now? probably wondering where the hell he put that magazine he lost awhile ago.

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Probably laughing at how his prediction about Joel dieing came true

Like father, like daughter

The chad joel vs the virgin ellie, thats all i see here lol

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

Lol ok?

@Dark-ht6zo

2 жыл бұрын

She ain’t no virgin

@orbitaliaa

2 жыл бұрын

me when i get no bitches

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling you didn't get the point of the game and just thought "wow torture is cool and badass!"

@hwanniggles187

Жыл бұрын

That has 2 meanings

No one can be more badass than joel

How to make Abby vomit: Step 1: 3:20

@theladypuppetcyberpunk2022

3 жыл бұрын

Step 1: 320 How to make Abby vomit

@blacksenko

3 жыл бұрын

@@theladypuppetcyberpunk2022 - What?

@matilla6979

Жыл бұрын

@@blacksenko he tried copypasting and failed

The reason why Joel got the information and Ellie doesn't it's not because Ellie is stupid... Well, it is, but Joel had that two vulnerable and ready to get hurt, to be intimidated, while Ellie it's like: "I trust you don't gonna do anything, wait there while i ask your girl for information" Just.. Bruh.

@VisionVaultArchive

3 жыл бұрын

I figure its just the lack of experience, Joel's had 20+ years.

@nova_raindrop1257

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. She should've got them vulnerable. She had the upper hand and had the jump on them. Joel probably would've shot them both in the legs and tied them up 😂.

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

She's young af

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

It's not because she's stupid. How many people do you think Joel was torturing when he was 19? Also Ellie is just a better person than Joel, or at least she is not as far down the road of being a bad person. If torture comes easy to you, there is probably something severely wrong with you.

Both Joel and Tommy tied up the ppl they interrogated, Ellie didn't/couldn't so hers failed

Imagine if Ellie was killed by Abby finishing the job for her dad and Joel is looking for her Abby would be fucking massacred

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Why would Abby want to kill Ellie? They specifically left her and Tommy alive because they had no beef with them.

@brixcer5681

Жыл бұрын

Unlike Joel and Ellie, Abby only wanted to kill the person that wronged her and not everyone

Joel: a man of dedication, skill, and sheer fucking will Ellie: I have gun me go pew

@onionjuiceantifanpage3719

3 жыл бұрын

Brr brr hahaha

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

That Lie he spewed to Ellie was outta sheer will also.

The best part of every plan is tell the enemys what it is

You see how Joel’s interrogation helped him but Ellie’s helped Abby

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Abby has the same character arc as Joel

i was screaming at Ellie that they were getting too close to her! goodness!!

Man Joel was so sick such a shame

@the_snoo_muffin9028

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah him lying to Ellie was sick af also. Totally flaming

@lukeharperistrash2914

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_snoo_muffin9028 stfu

@lukeharperistrash2914

2 жыл бұрын

@@VannywiththeFanny wow

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukeharperistrash2914 wow what? Truth hurt?

I would love to see a sort of “what if” game where Ellie is the one who gets killed

@ruthlesshades7869

Жыл бұрын

Clever but unfortunate

The fact Joel is so strong that he can break half a head of soemone half of the head I'm impressed by his strength

you guys can survive this,I wonder what were the choices we would be given after extracting information,cold blooded murder,or mercy?

Joel is badass character👍🏻

@kathrine7498

3 жыл бұрын

Badass character died just becouse he was beaten by a golf stick? Doesn't sounds logical. The whole game doesn't make scenes

@mariamnajim8075

3 жыл бұрын

@@kathrine7498 Because neil druckmann ruined the main character💔

@kathrine7498

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariamnajim8075 and not just my Joel and also my favourite franchise

@kathrine7498

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariamnajim8075 I will never forgive him

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

@@kathrine7498 how does a "golf stick😂" matter? As said in part1....Joel's luck ran out. As it did for Tess.

The music is so cool at the Part of Joel

What is the last music in the end?

The second Joel hit the guys head with the pipe I got a domino’s Pizza add 😂

Joel is an absolute legend

Joel Torture scene >>>> TLOU 2 entire Videogame

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

Cool. Thanks for the opinion

@spiralxoxo

3 жыл бұрын

@@VannywiththeFanny is a fact, but you welcome

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

@@spiralxoxo definitely a fact 👍

Difference is Joel is a vet at this and Ellie is a rook😂

I have no sympathy for abby or her crew they all made a choice to cross an entire country to kill one guy because he killed a bunch of people who were going to murder a 14 year old. Their entire mission is flawed no matter how you try and paint it.

@brixcer5681

Жыл бұрын

Try this. They where going to save humanity and one guy killed her father and doomed humanity. Are you like dumb and can't see why they did what they did

@VladtheInhaler

Жыл бұрын

@@brixcer5681 yikes. Imagine defending child murder

@brixcer5681

Жыл бұрын

@@VladtheInhaler yikes imgaine not understanding the entire fucking human race is at stake. Also Elli wanted it

@VladtheInhaler

Жыл бұрын

@@brixcer5681 why are you so angry

@brixcer5681

Жыл бұрын

@@VladtheInhaler not really, but I guess making that up is easier than coming up with a real argument

That Joel one was from LOU1 and the Ellie one is from LOU2.

See the thing is that Ellie didnt start off with an injury to let them know she's serious.

A petite pregnant woman put up a good fight 🤣

Joel and Tommy are the best survivors ever in TLOU Universe. Spite what happened to Joel.

1:58 transitioning 7:25 that would be a fire “like father like daughter” edit, someone make it please

Joel was just pure bad ass while Ellie was mild in comparison. Ellie should of let Nora turn and kept her as a pet like Shaun did

@bryangarcia1150

Жыл бұрын

Shaun of the dead 😂

Joel, best man

Man, the way how Neil Druckmann and Halley Gross screwed Joel's character in Part 2 is unforgivable

4:03 ellie shouldn’t do that becquse off that he couldn’t talk

Teacher: Ok class here is your homework Me: 7:24

im fkn crying i miss joel😭😭😭

Sarah was his peace time daughter. Ellie was his post apocalyptic daughter.

see the reason it worked when Joel did the interrogation because they were tied up so it Mel and Owen were tied up to chairs as well the interrogation would've worked with Ellie

Facts are looped

The Virgin Ellie - Starts to question if she's doing the right thing while she's smashing people face - Lets her friends die - Never gets to interrogate people - Doesn't kill the responsible of killing his step father The Chad Joel - Never question his actions because he knows it's them or him - Always take care of you - He knows that Marlene is gonna go after him to kill him so he finish the job - He's a badass doing interrogations

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

So was Joel "taking care" of Ellie when he lies to her giving a 14 year old Ego Death? I think more like, taking care of himself.

@almutairi201

2 жыл бұрын

@@VannywiththeFanny damn how does saving a 14 year old from death sound like?

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@almutairi201 Yup. I respect what he did, it was for a sweet and loving reason. But then he lied, and lied, and lied. Literally for years he lied to Ellie until she left and went back to SLC.

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@almutairi201 She didn't even want to be saved. If it was Ellie's choice she would of chosen the cure. Joel wasn't saving Ellie for Ellie, he was a scared and selfish man who panicked and "saved" by dooming humanity to extinction because he couldn't bear to lose another daughter.

@menacingsweeper2692

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielshepard1449 Ellie didn’t even know that she was gonna die for a cure. Plus the Fireflies didn’t have her consent because she was unconscious. They didn’t give her a choice.

Joel: damn I forgot to teach Eillie how to control the room and interrogated people

I love just how Neil forgot the fact that Ellie handled 2 guys using her bow, when she was hunting deer at 14 y/o. But yea yea she let Owen approach her like she became a noob for reasons.

@khk8394

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but this one is different since she actually wants them alive for info while david and the other guy were just a threat that could be taken care of with two bows

@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163

3 жыл бұрын

Does it matter she killed him reguardless

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

I forgot that every single senario in existence goes down the exact same way every time😅

Gun rule #1.) If you're using a gun during interrogation; DO. NOT. GET. TOO. CLOSE. and for fuck's sake hold that gun close to you. It's hard to miss a shot 6 feet away.

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks special agent Jack Bauer I will remember that next time I need to torture someone at gunpoint

Joel torture scene >>>> The last of us 2 entire videogame

All I can think of while watching Ellie’s second interro is that instead of what she said after they girl said think of all the people he killed Ellie should have been a fucking savage and said think about how many bones are in the human body

The diferent joel wasent interagating them out of revenge he was interagating them for the safet of ellie

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

What?

I find this really interesting. She isn't as experienced because Joel never wanted to show Ellie that side of him. You'll notice how chill Joel was once he lived in Jackson awhile. "All clear.-Joel/Tommy". Joel got a second chance to live different and have a pseudo-daughter.

@MrSUPERJAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Their guard was let down when Joel got killed. You notice the old instincts kick on like a light though. It was too late

Lol I remember saying this in the main story of the last of us 2.

3:32 oopsie daisies

Ok but scene with Nora kinda badass tho 😁

Like father like son

How does this interrogation works?

Joel is better mainly because he more experience and tbh when I played this I didn't hesitate to hit Nora

If u ask me, Ellie is a fucking badass just like Joel, Joel is more prepared to this shit, and more experienced but for a 19 years old girl, Ellie is doing fine.

Joel would of successfully got the information out of Mel and Owen

Joel did it better.

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

No shit he's 50, Ellie's 19 and a scrawny girl lmao Duh

@tristengunter2579

3 жыл бұрын

@@VannywiththeFanny omfg, you're in like 10 peoples replies. Get a life lol

@yeager14

2 жыл бұрын

@@VannywiththeFanny Clementine from TWD is a 16 year old scrawny girl and tortured a man more brutally than joel and in front of a 6 year old boy. Ellie has a weak mindset.

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@tristengunter2579 idk if that matters tbh. Come up with a better comeback. Like.....omfg 😬

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeager14 Rightfully so. She had a terrible childhood without any parents whatsoever. She had nobody

Joel was a BAAAAAAD man...should they do a prequel?

Honestly Ellie is a lot like Joel in a way how he fights she fights just like Joel if u look at how they both fight in both games

@danielshepard1449

2 жыл бұрын

Joel is actually more like Abby. Their game mechanics are more similar with how they craft shivs and punch/brawl instead of using switchblades, and the stuff they craft. They also have similar character arcs.

Joel ain’t fucking around

What the hell ever happened to this Joel.....oh yes 20 years of experience ...and the last of us part 2 come along and that go's all out the window..sigh

@brixcer5681

Жыл бұрын

Not really, he lived in a safe place and got less causious. Pretty simple if you try to

better than battlefield, thats for sure

Love this intimidating scene ellie out for furry blood

Ellie screwed up

Imma say this Ellie’s mistake with Owen and Mel is that they wasn’t at a valuable state that’s how they have to be before u use the method if not then you get that result no info and they both die but Ellie killed it with Nora that’s how it’s supposed to go give them two options utter torture or quick and snappy death

I don't understand how the method works can someone explain

@wenjie3384

2 жыл бұрын

ellie did explain it in the sequel, u make the first one write down the answer(dont let the second guy know what he write) then verify it with the second guy, if their answer match then u get what u want otherwise they are doomed, in joel case they are doomed whether the answer correct or not. lol

He is just built different I guess🤷🏻‍♂️

le hicieron al ultima a un wey de sinaloa

Ellie's version is garbage

@VannywiththeFanny

3 жыл бұрын

You've left enough comment my guy. Chill

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fearless_Lemon I mean it was next level. And kinda just coming from a place of saltiness.

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fearless_Lemon so am I just not to reply so as not to be "ironic"? Is this not what "comment sections" are made for? Would you rather just simply have only likes and no comments?

@VannywiththeFanny

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fearless_Lemon nah I get that. When did I say I didn't? So how would you know I lack anything? Ridiculous.

Ellie is scary at 19. What more if she gets older.

Everyone forgets Tommy was the one who introduced Joel, niggas never played TLoU2.

No one is gonna mention that Joel was a fool for believe that guy without interrogate the other guy?

@raelanimates8829

Жыл бұрын

I mean, they weren't lying so uh....

@Davidparty3

Жыл бұрын

@@raelanimates8829 Yes, but how could he know that without interrogating both of them? How could he be so sure about he was not lying?

@raelanimates8829

Жыл бұрын

@@Davidparty3 Ez, *V I D E O G A M E L O G I C*

@matilla6979

Жыл бұрын

@@Davidparty3 The first man he interrogated told him to verify it with the other guy. (Context clue 1.) The first guy he interrogated was scared for his life. (Context clue 2.) Both of them were scared out of their minds. (Context clue 3)

@toob_noob4381

2 ай бұрын

​@@Davidparty3 after being stabbed, he Immediately gave up the required information with no backtalk or anger.

Last of us 1 is the success but how part 2 is succeed I don't know

Joel’s interrogation >>>

Neither of them even followed their rules though, he just killed the guy after getting one Half of the answer and Ellie just failed flat out. Only tommy actually followed through on both counts. Superior miller

@disgustang1279

7 ай бұрын

I know this comment was a year ago, but I think Joel done this interrogation so many times to the point that he could tell the dude wasn’t lying

Joel was a fucking hunter while Ellie is just naturally talented at murder w a couple of mentors that strengthened some skills. She ultimately never got as good as tommy at shooting or Joel at this fucked up interrogation shit. Good for her though. Trying to be her heroes. Pl

Joel’s stronger that’s the difference

I dislike Abby for killing Joel and Jesse even though those events were in the past. Same thing goes for Ellie, she searched for Abby to get revenge on her even though she could’ve easily broken the cycle. Though, if I had to pick who’s better between Abby and Ellie, I’d go for Ellie since Abby could’ve just let it go. If she did, Ellie wouldn’t have killed Mel and Owen.

@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Abby only killed who she """""had""""" to, Ellie killed all of abbys friends and family

@relaxhedx7064

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163 they were all self defense tf u mean she said just tell me where abby is and I'll let you go

@Zapdos97

2 жыл бұрын

@@relaxhedx7064 I mean I side with Ellie but that's not how self defense works... if she's in Jackson and bandits start attacking then killing is the only reasonable solution. Ellie was the equivalent of an intruder in your home and threatening you, the intruder killing you would be murder, for you it's be self defense

Joel would've shot Owen the second he started closing distance. Maybe gut shot something survivable. But Joel would've handled this way different. You could see Mel was ready to talk