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@badboybullterriers4104

Жыл бұрын

Joe Rogan fooked all the JRE fans over by shutting down his forum servers without telling us, all the original JRE forum users wouldn't p1ss on his merch.

Brandon Vera is a perfect example of what Steroids can do for a Combat Athlete.. he got beat up in the UFC, left and went to Asia where they don't test for Steroids, and extended his Career by 15 Years!!!! Not only did he fight 10 or 15 years after he washed out from the UFC, he was Champion!!!

@Deasnuts1

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, didn't know he went on to fight but I ran into him at EDC a couple years post his ufc career and i remember thinking this guys on the sauce now lol.

@hendarula5310

Жыл бұрын

Double champ at that lol

@alucard5055

Жыл бұрын

Asia doesn't have large man. His opponents were some 5'10 pudgy 44 year Olds.

@MrSupaah

Жыл бұрын

Steroids in fighting shouldn’t be allowed

@lazmaroulis6686

Жыл бұрын

That could also be a result of a difference in competition…

Joe bro he “openly” admits it to YOU not everyone else ☠️☠️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@novicelifts5197

Жыл бұрын

Nah gordon kinda implies it. In one of his recent instagram post someone asked. ‘How good would u be without gear?’ And gordon answered with ‘i would still be 20 years ahead of everyone else in the sport.’ And he said too ‘Don’t like steroids in bjj. Ban em’ Which also implies he use them

@Haboogie

Жыл бұрын

Oops...

@JeromeBlessedHolloway

Жыл бұрын

@@novicelifts5197 that’s not openly admitting it now is it

@novicelifts5197

Жыл бұрын

@@JeromeBlessedHolloway yeah i know that’s why i said he implies it

@orenkeithley5324

Жыл бұрын

@@novicelifts5197 that is reading into it to hard

For those curious, Gordon did admit to taking TB500 in one of his Texas vlogs from Flograppling, where he visits the clinic run by his friend to collect his BPC-157 and TB500 supply. TB500 is considered a banned substance by all the major sports organizations (as far as I know). Of course, in addition to TB500, I suspect he takes other peptides that increase testosterone as well as TRT I think. Only the TB500 (and BPC-157, which is allowed) is confirmed by him on the video, while the rest is just conjectured by me.

@joshuapierce9571

Жыл бұрын

Is that Tiana ball? My spelling could be incorrect.

@cameronbachman8161

Жыл бұрын

I live an hour from that clinic in Austin and I think about going everyday

@joelrivardguitar

Жыл бұрын

TB500 is not an androgen. His physique at competition isn't a TRT physique, it's more of a 200-500mg weekly plus maybe an oral. Gordon sort of admitted when in an interview he said his team is known for not using steroids and then he walked it back and said something like "well, not as much as other teams". That one pic from a few years ago where he was huge and crazy shredded is more of a Tren look but I don't know if he would bother with something that harsh. TRT doesn't allow you to go much over 1000 mg/dl when you get tested. That isn't enough to get way bigger than you naturally would. 500mg weekly will put you around 3-4000. TRT is not a cycle and isn't magic. Going against Andre he had to be big because Gaval is a monster. In recent videos he is smaller, maybe natural? Or cruising on a small amount?

@bgersk

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuapierce9571dianabol. He could be, but there’s so many options out there that no one can say for sure what it is.

@baldgang3007

Жыл бұрын

Peptides don't increase testosterone as they aren't androgenic. There are peptides that increase Growth Howmone though. TB500 and BPC157 are known as "repair proteins" and are literally just used to increase recovery rate and to speed up recovery from injuries.

Oof Joe rogan dropped the ball on this one. Gordan has never 100% openly admitted taking steroids even though we all know it. Lol

@kylechu4115

Жыл бұрын

No kidding lol! 😂

@jaykwonzzz

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's ever been states explicitly, but it's about as close to it as possible. Lately in a lot of his IG posts and replies, he essentially admits it without doing so. Someone asked the other day, "How good would you be without gear?" He said, "I'd still be 20 years ahead of everyone else in the sport." He never said, "I take gear." But that's about as close as humanly possible to admitting it without actually admitting it.

@LilParticle

Жыл бұрын

He basically admits it all the time, especially recently, the last thing I remember is him saying “don’t like PEDs in grappling? Ban them lol”

@magnum-kj5ip

Жыл бұрын

This isn't Joe Rogans channel 😆

@brownjatt21

Жыл бұрын

@@LilParticle fax, he's never denied it but has implied it all the time. You never wanna openly admit it. It's bad for the image.

How can the manager of Paddy Pimblett have no idea who Gordon Ryan is or even what Ju Jitsu is. Mind blowing stupidity or just lack of effort.

@RyanPedersen

Жыл бұрын

Joking? 🤔

@BenjaminLevens

Жыл бұрын

Agreed what a tool

@adamkee3648

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry I haven't heard about this before, wheres the info from.

@shhboomshhboomz7007

Жыл бұрын

barstool is just a sponsor, not a manager

@valdivia1234567

Жыл бұрын

So, you're saying Dave Portnoy is Paddy Pimblett's manager?

Joe exposed his own friend 🤣

Bro all this time I thought Gordon Ryan was 50

@tle398

Жыл бұрын

You thought the greatest no gi grappler was 50? Are you autistic

@hakr1298

Жыл бұрын

I thought his hair and beard were white because of age at first

"Never heard of him" Hahaha. I love this guest.

They should allow PED’s for recovery. Allow everyone to do the same drugs, not to get bigger or stronger, but for recovery.

TB-500 is not a steroid. It's a peptide that increases blood flow to soft tissues to accelerate repair of injuries and such. Might give you more endurance, but it doesn't have a known effect on androgens to my knowledge. That being said, I'm almost certain Gordon Ryan is on things that do affect his androgens lol

@perkosherrigh7243

Жыл бұрын

That’s not all he’s taking

@kevinosborne4632

Жыл бұрын

Everyone in grappling is on steroids Look at their bodies Not just Ryan

@ZombieLincoln666

10 ай бұрын

@@kevinosborne4632 not Mikey Musumeci

"Everyone's on steroids, except the Dagestan champs" -Nate Diaz

@raymondayala5355

Жыл бұрын

Islam Makachev was flagged down by USADA in 2018 for the same drug that tennis player was suspended for.

@johnpembroke9869

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondayala5355 what's tennis?

@raymondayala5355

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpembroke9869 tennis is a sport

@rc333

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondayala5355 he was prescribed a drug after having a major cardiac surgery 😂 and his physician and himself admitted it even before testing you donut 😂

@raymondayala5355

Жыл бұрын

@@rc333 he was still flagged you pop tart 🤣. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get any of the benefits from it. That’s why that tennis player was suspended

High integrity this guy

Joe “Outed” Gordon…hilarious lol.

The ufc having the best fighters is the biggest myth in combat sports

Anyone know what Gordan is likely to be taking? Keep hearing these guys talk about recovering in days and I've been injured for years and can't get it to stay better so I'd consider taking something if I knew what and how

@YouTubeuser-yp8qk

Жыл бұрын

Half wicked

@brianbadonde8700

Жыл бұрын

What kind of injury?

Its usualy about money, in polish organisation KSW fighters are getting much more than in UFC, (expect a top champions of course ) some of them just stay there for financial stability.

Even with usada ufc have much of their fighter used PED no doubt..of course they have doctor on camp/team that time to duration of the PED and know when they up/down dosage etc..

Pride back in the day had in their contracts an OBLIGATION to take steroids.

"Never heard of him" 😂

“what sport is that?” “jiu jitsu” “oh” 😂

Seriously how much dip does that dude have in his lip?

I just watched my first One FC fight night last night and I was very impressed! I've been watching the UFC for almost 20 years but after the espn deal I've not watched a fight in over a year.

@dgbsea4140

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that dbl pay wall is ridiculous. Plus every ppv is $75.99. Imagine paying for every one

You can't sit and wait for the opponent to pass your guard in ufc without getting a beating.

Why do I have more respect for people that go natural even though some one on gear is better. This is not a dis on people on the juice but my natural instinct just naturally admires people that go balls out hard without gear. The idea of someone going to their limit and grinding hard with out gear always fascinated me more. This is not to disrespect on people juced up at all!

@trentmclellan1037

Жыл бұрын

Same

I don't agree with taking the roids just because you won't get caught, there is such a thing that's forgotten which is honour in knowing you haven't taken anything and still can get some where, I would never do it

@ryanthompson3446

10 ай бұрын

Honour has no place in prize fighting dude, its fighting for money, that delusional thinking wont make you money.

As professor Snape once said "obviously"

Joe almost slipped when he said “other guys are on this stuff too like” I think he meant to say GalGo

Gordan makes WAY more money in grappling.... than most UFC fighters

@Roberto-nm8sw

Жыл бұрын

Plus he has the benefit of not getting brain damage from kicks or punches to the head.

Tony hawk of jujitsu 😂 I don’t know why that makes me chuckle. Lol

I’m from the United States a big fight fan I live in the Philippines ONE championship is just as big as ufc and in the smaller weight classes I think their champions beat a lot of the UFCs And they have world-class Muay Thai fights but in 4 ounce gloves

Joe “Imma express everything over the top” Rogan!!

Maybe they don't like the ufc's completely controlling their career and when where and how they can fight or be sponsored

Years from now I wonder how he will look after the damage to his body from steroids.

Acho que o mica e o meregali podem supera-lo. O mica tem 19 anos apenas. E goat pra mim foi o roger gracie . Gordon ryan é um fenomeno, mas ele tem uma caminhada ainda pra consolidar seu sucesso. O proprio preguiça é um que ele tem que ter o tira teima . Temos muitos talentos ai no jiu jitsu. Mas como brasileiro admito que é dificil ver um gringo sendo chamado de goat, afinal é bjj. Rs É como se michael jordan , tom brady fossem brasileiros.

Gordon is the Lance Armstrong of BJJ

@michaeljustice4244

Жыл бұрын

Lmaoo. If everyone from birth did steroids there is a good chance all these pros would be the worse of the 7 billion. They pretended it was hard work and dieting for the last 50 years. Imagine every athlete in the past 50 years knew steroids was key in all the top people, all these “stars” might be average joes. But they stole the glory on a foundation of lies

@stn7172

Жыл бұрын

Yup the 🐐

@kevinjohnson6549

Жыл бұрын

Eh, steroids are 100% legal in bjj.

@Cosmicwiz66

Жыл бұрын

Naa not if everyone else is

@MrJol420

Жыл бұрын

Accurate.

Is anyone really surprised now when sporting great [X] is revealed to be a steroid or ex steroid user? Still to this day, the unacknowledged elephant in the room is the fact that steroids are now, and have been for a long time, AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY AND A REQUIREMENT for sporting excellence in almost every sporting endeavour where the financial rewards for success are considerable. Top athletes and sporting stars know that the best coaches are the coaches who best know the ins and outs of fooling drug tests by making sure their clients only use the right compounds and at the right times.

The Diaz brothers were pretty successful without taking steroids. Nick does or did triathlons and is a vegetarian.

@thebawzrittenhouse1433

Жыл бұрын

He is on stuff too

@baccaratfitness2360

Жыл бұрын

@@thebawzrittenhouse1433 bullshit

Still a shitton of guys in the ufc are on gear, like izzy, usman, jones, ngannou, gane, basically everyone.

@maskassmario321

Жыл бұрын

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, IF THEY LOOK JACKED, THEY MUST BE ON ROID. ESPECIALLY THE BLACK ONES" Cope withey.

TONY HAWK OF JIU JITSU LOL! while taking huge loads of steroids we will see when time kicks in and he has to choose between getting it up and jiu jitsu ?????

Keenan Cornelius is my favorite pro Jiujitsu player

I always think that barstool guy is the Facebook dude.

People act as if One championship ain't legit and don't have killers over there

I have never heard that Gordon Ryan admits to taking steroids? In which interview is that?

@Oddly_Fascinting

Жыл бұрын

If he dosent admit you think he is natty 🤣

"Look at the fuckin build on that guy"

How can you be the goat if ur on the sauce? He’s clearly a great grappler without it and other worldly on it. If he’s not natty , he can’t be in the goat conversation. Marcelo is probably the goat.

@vedu8519

Жыл бұрын

Steroids don't improve your technique, dedication or strategy. Literally everyone Gordon is going against is on gear.

@kennedic4403

Жыл бұрын

@@vedu8519 first off, everyone is not on the gear. Secondly, Gordon is on par with the best in the world with his technique and strategy. The THING that puts him over the top is his size and strength which he WOULD NOT HAVE if not for 💉💉💉. So he’s out of the goat discussion. It’s Marcelo or Roger.

@billj4525

Ай бұрын

@@kennedic4403 Gordon hasn't really admitted it though. For it to really be Lance Armstrong type of an issue it would need to be 100% proven, and not just discussed. He won't be out of that discussion based on this at all. Not yet at least.

Rogan being open my minded is why I still watch ( other than the guests and subjects). He says I think bodybuilding is still a sport, but understands there are different perspectives. I actually think that according to a strict definition it has to not be a sport, or everything is, but saying both sides is legit.

@ReverZe83

Жыл бұрын

I don't really get the hate on the guy, unless you despise drugs or some of his takes on certain things he's a genuinely open minded dude willing to change his mind if evidence presents itself and he seems a good guy to be friends with also 🤷‍♂️

I think there's a really big point about the steroids in BJJ issue that gets overlooked. While it is technically true that there aren't explicit rules against it, and that they don't test, the overwhelming majority of PEDs and basically all, at least in the US, used in Grappling are Schedule III substances. So, unless the people taking them have a specific medical prescription for them, it would be illegal to do so. Therefore the rules don't really matter as taking them would be illegal and you wouldn't be allowed to do so even if the rules required it.

@ryanthompson3446

10 ай бұрын

Which is stupid, and steroid laws are nonsense

@I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y.

Күн бұрын

Dude.. you can easily get and do illegal drugs and not get arrested/caught...

@cthulhu-jitsu7404

Күн бұрын

@@I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y. what's your point? I'm saying they're illegal, not that people don't break the law. My point is when things have aspects that are illegal and they become popular, government agencies start regulating them. If there were the cocaine Olympics, there'd also be a fleet of police cars waiting outside to arrest everyone involved. The hypothetical cocaine Olympics not having rules against cocaine would be irrelevant.

@I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y.

Күн бұрын

@cthulhu-jitsu7404 hey, you win, man. I'll just say this; you've clearly never been around drugs or illegal activity. Anyone with any sense isn't bringing the whole damn drug store with them to get busted with.

@cthulhu-jitsu7404

Күн бұрын

@@I.D.I.O.C.R.A.C.Y. and I'll say that you're clearly not paying attention to what my point was. The point being made over and over again from the pro steroid side in BJJ is that the rules don't prohibit them, so it's okay. I'm only pointing out, as I stated in the original comment you responded to, that the rules DON'T MATTER in the case because the action being discussed is ILLEGAL and therefore would be prohibited by law. Even if you were being given a plate of steroids by Mo Jassim himself and told to take them, it would still be prohibited because the laws of the country take precedence over the rules of some sporting event. Do people break the law and not get caught? Sure. All the time. Just like people break the rules of a sporting event all the time without getting caught. That doesn't change the fact that those actions were prohibited and you still broke the rules/law.

Well, duh, I knew that the first time I saw one of his pictures. No one gets that jacked and does jujitsu for a living, ( a high calorie burning activity,) without taking PEDs. So, IMO, he's really not the best, since I'm sure at least some of his opponents have not been using. Tired of PEDs.

Joe Rogan is like that kid who talks about what his parents do in the bedroom to their parents, like…My bad!!!

Should just have a fighting league with no limits on PED's

Could his steroid use be because the meds he takes for his stomach, intestine issue.

@kaisawilson2207

Жыл бұрын

Anabolic steroids are not used to treat stomach issues.

@BrockMolden

Жыл бұрын

Lol that’s what cause it prolly

Nobody that takes roids is the best

@dailydissent6076

Жыл бұрын

Lol the best according to what? your silly opinion? He's crushing competitions.

I’d like to see an open non tested Olympic Games just to see how far past human potential science can push sport

@mathiasjossen2953

Жыл бұрын

U see that every 4 years

And there you have it folks

I’ve been reading about a lot of jujitsu guys being suspended is there a certain type of steroids these guys can take?everything is illegal in that sport obviously

There should be a SEPERATE category for natty and then others forwhatever u deem nessersarry. It's time to stop trying to hide these things and claim otherwise. Who knows it might lead to medical breakthroughs as itll be legal and not some back store vibe anymore

Anyone know where Gordon has explicitly admitted to taking steroids? I know it's logical to assume so, but I was just wondering if he has explicitly admitted to taking a specific substance.

@DanielCollins419

Жыл бұрын

He said in a vlog "our team is the only team that doesn't use PED's.... for the most part"

@urbansamurai261

Жыл бұрын

He never denies it and never goes against people saying he does

@anonymousreviewer169

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielCollins419 I've seen that clip, but it's not an explicit admission (implicit at best). I assumed there was a clip where he goes over the substances he takes, etc.

@anonymousreviewer169

Жыл бұрын

@Urban Samurai True, but it'd still not an explicit admission. I am looking for an explicit version, if it exists at all.

@jaykwonzzz

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousreviewer169 I don't think it's ever been states explicitly, but it's about as close to it as possible. Lately in a lot of his IG posts and replies, he essentially admits it without doing so. Someone asked the other day, "How good would you be without gear?" He said,"I'd still be 20 years ahead of everyone else in the sport." He never said, "I take gear." But that's about as close as humanly possible to admitting it without actually admitting it.

They dont test... Anywhere in the sport... Its not cheating...

That why it’s glockjitsu from here on out baby 😂

Not everyone is on gear Gordon wouldn’t be in the position he is in without gear

Being on steroids is the standard now. I mean it always was.. but now it's just out in the open.

Every top athlete in every single physical sport is on something. You’re naive if you think they aren’t.

Is that Dave Zuckerberg?

No duh... You don't get tested in BJJ so they are all roid heads at top level.

@dragonballjiujitsu

Жыл бұрын

And why not?

Christmas , brithday , fuck you show up . -joe Rogan

Talk about bias to who you work for

Breaking: water admits to being wet.

gordon never openly admitted ped use. joe dropped the ball on this statement

GSP never needed steroids. Fedor never needed steroids. That's why they are the best of all time. Gordon Ryan should have a big ol Asterix next to his name. Not all athletes cheat because they can. Some fighters have principles.

QUESTION:Does natural mean you just keep your levels at 300 ish? . I mean I was on TRT for 10 years and kept my levels consistently at 300ish with very similar labs to NATTY ROD. I too had thick blood for years until I got off TRT. just wondering if similar situation or anyone experience similar? I'm not hating , but if what makes you natural was your blood levels , then thats kind of well ya know. What are you guys considering as natural? blood levels within natural limits OR absolutely no synthetic form of test and still having test levels from 300-600? I would have been considered natural if i never told anyone . oh and i was a beast in my BJJ gym, my guys can vouche for sure I live in Vegas

@sambog2635

4 ай бұрын

natural means you are not taking and have never taken performance enhancing drugs 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

"Everybodys on steroids"

Gordon also says ufc fighters are on peds and other elite athletes, and he's 100 % correct .

No doubt Gordon Ryan is the best in no gi. Going to the UFC as you mentioned where there is striking changes the dynamic. He isn’t claiming to be the best MMA guy or a strong striker. With the money he is making I don’t see a point in him going into the UFC or some other MMA combat sport. If he does well it doesn’t prove much because he is already the best at no gi. If he gets smoked, it can only affect him negatively. He is doing great where he is, Why change it

@Chaelsonen

Жыл бұрын

USADA like hey buddy, have a seat over there...

@rennyskiathitis8178

10 ай бұрын

He is the best athlete on steroids. You can't prove you are better than a clean athlete if you can't do it without steroids.

@joet7760

10 ай бұрын

@@rennyskiathitis8178 I understand what you’re saying but I thought level they almost all do it. Anyone competing at the highest level of Pan’s or ADCC is almost certainly doing TRT and or other enhancements. I’m not mentioning names but I know several personally and they have all admitted it.

Gordan Ryan is on gear??? What???? You're gonna tell me the suns hot next?

Time for Devon Larratt to go on Rogan pod.....

Problem is not everyone reacts the same to steroids (also depends on how good your pharmacist is). Just because Gordon is the best on gear doesn't mean he would be the best off gear. So there's always a little asterix when you call him the GOAT

@eastwood111

Жыл бұрын

People respond differently, because some have more androgen receptors in the brain. The more receptors the more you respond to anabolic steroids. It has nothing to do with the quality of gear.

@mariushauugis7324

Жыл бұрын

True. The even playingfield argument is not valid. Also, if you use EPO the amound of natural hematocrit levels play a factor in how you respond and effect the Vo2Max

@erenjaegerbomb8653

Жыл бұрын

Nah because he's outplaying people in the fight IQ department, his understanding is blowing people's minds. That bit is completely unaffected by steroids, and if you think he's winning because of a strength advantage you haven't seen Andre Galvao xD GR is still unquestionably the goat regardless

@mariushauugis7324

Жыл бұрын

@Eren Jaegerbomb I agree in Gordan Ryans case. He is superior, no doubt. But the even playing field argument is not valid in other sports.

@alphabroncotwozero392

Жыл бұрын

They're all on gear and he's the best out of all of them, so there you go

Yeah if you know you're getting locked in a cage with a guy that takes steroids you'd have to be pretty brave to do it clean. And that's amongst a bunch of guys that are pretty damn brave already.

Joe better watch he might get sued for slander.

@JayWest14

Жыл бұрын

Nah, Gordon would just tell him he had to drink his semen, and Joe would do it happily!!

Not the biggest fan of Gordon Ryan's persona but I didn't know he openly admits to using ped's and I do give him a ton of credit for that.

@morijin9552

Жыл бұрын

Y’all give people credit for anything

@jl8410

Жыл бұрын

He’s a garbage human being.

@Chaelsonen

Жыл бұрын

@@morijin9552 "I cheated" *crowd errupts* Hes so BRAVE!

@damontan4749

Жыл бұрын

@@morijin9552 not anything, it’s the honesty he is crediting him for, you du** fu**

What's even more surprising to me is that people expect anyone on gear to have a god-like physique like Gordon. I guess you all forget about Josh Barnett, getting busted for PED's four fucking times throughout his career, and that dude has never so much looked like even a casual athlete let alone a Greek god.

Damn...makes me think less of him. If you're strength is from a chemical, it's not real.

Portnoy is the ultimate filthy casual

All I knew Dave for was rating pizza before this pod.

27?? Damn I thought that nigga was in his 40s🤣🤣. Idk if ped users should be in the category for goat status, have them compete in a ped ran organization and see how well they stand up

Sooo. Steroids are Legal, if im not Competing in the UFC??? About Gordon Ryan being a BJJ GOAT, nothing a Single Bullet couldnt decide. Watch Indiana Jones, the lost Ark.

at the end they show him only 17 he is only 27 now look at how the roids aged his body, gross. he was born in 1995 and looks like he is in his 50s

So the real question is who is the real goat of bjj sinds almost everybody take some enhancing drug.

Hey Joe if you need listener I can come on your show so I can sit there and you just talk and I act like i know what you talking about

Gordon Ryan, BJJ GOAT? The disrespect to Roger Gracie is wild.

Ufc is slowing down though

Yeah if I were Gordon I would stay in bjj. Screw getting brain damage. Especially if he is already the face of no gi.

He says it’s not just the PEDs, but how the fuck would we know if he isn’t competing while not on them???

I promise you that you can eat more pizza 🍕 if you take steroids

I wish certain nootropics were better studied and not banned. There's Russian shit out there that might beat antidepressants for mental health without the side effects and they help with physical fatigue. I get that they aren't regulated but they need to get studied and regulated. Create that limitless pill

Athletes should just be allowed to do roids. Wtf not?

"Everybody is on steroids."

He deff uses roids if he admits or not.

So it’s ok to cheat to win because everyone is cheating and you can’t win if you don’t cheat. This is why professional sports are suffering, lacking values. If the game isn’t completely fair then the whole competition is shit. Imagine if there was a title fight where you knew one guy was on shit and the other guy wasn’t because they both disclosed it openly - the competition wouldn’t matter.

@contrararian

Жыл бұрын

That's why I can't get behind the new era. But if you want to get technical a lot of people said this would eventually happen to sports in general it's all a freak show

And even royce Gracie to