Can't wait to hear when he's accepted Christ

@JesusLovesTheLost

8 ай бұрын

Same 🙏🙏🙏

@JoHn-if6wy

6 ай бұрын

He agrees with 99.9999% of his guest. Hes just doing it for the money.

@1994wildchild

6 ай бұрын

@@JoHn-if6wy yeah but this a ticket to the club of no return, for your own good, because He's the only way out of our mess (Jesus), it's truth, it's like when you can't unsee something, it's just there, it really happened, and it's about what you do with that fundamental truth that makes all the difference

@JoHn-if6wy

6 ай бұрын

@@1994wildchild I think joe rogans loves his image more than god. Thats what i think of him. And theres many more hypocrites within the church.

@jamesholt8516

5 ай бұрын

​@JoHn-if6wy What is the church anyway? But a hospital for hypocrites. A hospital for chief sinners. A hospital for broken people to be fixed. Thank God I am all 3 of those things. Had it be not for The Church, I wouldnt know I was those things. I wouldnt know that I need grace. The question here is: do you?

I wish JR would understand that you can't define "good" truthfully without God

@ryanparker4996

Ай бұрын

Literally the word God is the etymylogical root for the word Good

@yoeyyoey8937

Ай бұрын

Which god ?

@ryanparker4996

Ай бұрын

@@yoeyyoey8937 there is only one, you contrarian fool. Have you ever tried praying to Thor? Nothing happens

@getasimbe

Ай бұрын

​@@ryanparker4996 That's false. None of this is true

@ryanparker4996

Ай бұрын

@@getasimbe the English language is built around the Bible. You know nothing, child.

What C.S Lewis created is a wonderful world, which makes us discover the beauty of the spirituality of faith and of everything that surrounds us. Great job Stuart, and see you soon. 😍

@folksurvival

9 ай бұрын

Many of his works were propaganda to try to indoctrinate children into the cult of Christianity.

@ACuriousChild

3 ай бұрын

What "world" did CSL create? There is only ONE CREATOR - GOD ALMIGHTY!

@pustinja_

2 ай бұрын

​@@ACuriousChild Narnia

Abolition of man is a great book. Highly recommended to all.

Yup. We are all striving towards “The Real World” whether we know it or not. “This world was only the cover and the title page and the Real world is chapter one”

@tayzk5929

9 ай бұрын

How do you know

@Dungeon-uh4ph

9 ай бұрын

He must just be really smart and aware to know this thing we don't

The music doesn't help AT ALL

Good vid. Its mainstream to hate on Rogan nowadays

This is the first time im hearing about not kicking old ladies in the shins for fun. I’m gonna have to stop doing that.

@philochristos

8 ай бұрын

It might be okay to do it if it's not fun.

Did Lewis call it the taos, though? I seem to remember reference to the Natural Law. Sincere question, been a while since I read him.

@captainunload

10 ай бұрын

In some of his work he did call it the Tao. The idea that there is a way things ought to be as present within the universe.

@ComicRaptor8850

10 ай бұрын

Yup, it’s in the Abolition of Man

@fragwagon

10 ай бұрын

@@ComicRaptor8850 thank you!

@milanpatel5788

Ай бұрын

The Tao is from Buddhism not Lewis

@fragwagon

Ай бұрын

@milanpatel5788 we all know that but thank you.

Actually Lewis got his idea from Kant. He brakes down Kants idea beautifully. The imersivas moral imperatives

@zachhecita

Ай бұрын

Indeed, though I don't think it was inappropriate to credit Lewis in this conversation. Kant seemed more philosophical, and Lewis, the more practical. The latter would resonate with the everyman like Joe Rogan.

Keep drawing him Lord. He’s getting warmer. Praying for Joe Rogan to come to Christ Jesus! 🙏🏼

I believe that to. Deep in what I call " The Self " there is a very unique consionsness among us that dont need to be teached .

@Marlon__99

8 ай бұрын

Read ROMANS CHAPTER 2 The Laws of God written in our hearts brother , our conscience also bearing witness

@lordbunbury

8 күн бұрын

It’s also very simple empathy. Don’t like it when someone kicks you? Don’t do it to someone else.

when is joe gonna have jeff durbin on?

@el-duderino975

9 ай бұрын

YEEES

@marendse6561

9 ай бұрын

Hopefully never.

@jasonnistler4001

9 ай бұрын

interesting

@philochristos

8 ай бұрын

That would be lively.

Wow 👏 Joe! Thanks for inviting this great scientist! It's sooo mind opening 👌👏🔥

I wanna see Tim Mackie from Bible Project on here. I think Rogan would appreciate Tim humility and knowledge of the original Greek and Hebrew

It's called CONSCIENCE everyone has one, but most choose to ignore it.

Thank you

Please don’t give up on the church Joe. We’re called to be Christ like. We need the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. Praying for you, brother.

We all got toward the same thing, even in the smallest way - Christ!

Where can I learn more about the debate?

@IntotheWardrobe

6 ай бұрын

This is from the Joe Rogan Podcast interview with Stephen C. Meyer.

@danieltoledo9383

6 ай бұрын

I'm going to have a child. You just made me cry Joe. Refined

That’s it!❤

Who is he interviewing?

The Elegance of Excellence.. 🙂

but why???? the why is the point. his plan was for a perfect creation. the saved will be there on the new reformed earth. God's not finished. The more saved the better

Thinking how I wanna hug Aslan*

The natural law is written on our hearts - see Heb 8:10

Who is the guest?

@IntotheWardrobe

10 ай бұрын

Stephen C. Meyer! His book Signature in the Cell was an incredibly important book for me.

@jaydenwilson9522

10 ай бұрын

@@IntotheWardrobe The new atheists replaced the tripartite form of monism into the worship of randomness (newtonian dynamics), nothingness (big bang) to equate to the monism of MEANINGLESSNESS! Find god, east or west, islamic or jewish.... god comes in many forms as god is light, and light is everything. Even matter. Even spirit. Even space and time are emergent properties of light. Light rules above time because god is light. Light is electromagnetism, electromagnetism is the 1st force and creates radiation and gravity.

But there are psychopaths and sociopaths. So, not everybody but most? If a person gets a brain injury it changes them in ways that their entire personality changes. So it seems like most of us have adapted a desire for "common good" because that has been our evolutionary advantage. We are social animals and if we work towards helping each other and not hurting one another, our entire species thrives better than if we didn't. And, our personalities are our brains, not a "soul". If a head injury can change your entire life, then that means we are not a soul but what our brain construction is. It's a nice thought but science has come a long way since Lewis.

@thecrow4597

7 ай бұрын

Christian morality is not simply pragmatic. There are pragmatic elements but many seriously immoral things are pragmatic. The Roman Empire was functional and flourishing and they were involved in human sacrifice and polygamous fornication etc. and did not believe it was wrong. animals are pragmatic just how pagans were and they will kill their kids to ensure others survive etc. there is earthly ethics and God’s ethics. God’s ethics cannot be justified with earthly rational.

@silence2314

6 ай бұрын

This exact response is actually discussed in-depth in CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity". I recommend reading the full source material if you're curious. A 30-second video really doesn't do this theory justice.

@Dr.Judy.N.Lubega

6 ай бұрын

It's Context. You are Body Spirit Soul. It's like Trinity they all need eachother. Depending on time on purpose one is superior to the other but all work together. Without a brain,soul won't function but when soul is functioning it can guide the brain best.

@matthew6427

6 ай бұрын

@@Dr.Judy.N.Lubega Show me a soul? That's why I was brain injury can cause massive personality changes. From the things we have studied and observed, a soul just doesn't exist. Your personality and everything about the things you do are all dictated by brain chemistry. We can measure and see love with functioning MRIs.

@Dr.Judy.N.Lubega

6 ай бұрын

​@@matthew6427 okay I get you now. So you don't believe a soul exists & yet I do. so this is loong debated topic soul spirit body. Convincing you is what we need to embark on

Beautiful

Joe!!!!!!!!! That was beautiful Joe, you just made me cry! Thank you for this :-)

JRR tolkein is credited with helping Lewis become a Christian

You're coming around Joe it's going to be earth moving when you finally figure it out.

The problem with this is that we now live in a western society that embraces and pushes the idea of " personal truth". This idea that an individual can claim that " my truth " is as legitimate or even exceeds objective truth. This is what has lead to people rationalising things then justifying objective evil. Just look at society and its views on crime, abortion, look at how the murder of Christian children by a deranged person in Nashville was rationalised that the person commiting the murders was actually a victim. Look at the moment how people rationalise the unspeakable crimes that Hamas committed at the music festival and surrounding area, you have people rationalising rape and infanticide , that hamas have a " truth " and they are somehow victims. Dao is a nice idea but it doesn't change that people are evil. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

@Dr.Judy.N.Lubega

6 ай бұрын

The greatest thing evil did to people was proving evil doesn't exist👍. CS Lewis said the same thing in his opening remarks in "Screw tape letters"

@Dr.Judy.N.Lubega

6 ай бұрын

It's not necessarily "personal truth" but absolute truth, which each person is able to rationalize. However that's why community exists so the absolute truth is identified by comparison of truth. Hence why absolute truth when discovered must be continually documented because no one can argue against that

I pray that Joe Rogan accepts Jesus as Lord.

Did she have a switch and ex roller derby player?

Natural Law

In Romans 6 Paul wrote that the law is written on our hearts.

natural law

Joe has represented the good for us. He is hearing a good voice.

I love how they say that Rogan explains Lewis…….. I mean………I just watched that. Pretty sure someone else quoted Lewis while Rogan sat and listened. I love Lewis and I definitely tune in for some of Rogan’s stuff but the headline is flat out false…..that is all ✌️

It is naive, in the extreme, to believe that everyone recognizes a universal notion of ‘good’. Analysis of ubiquitous barbaric practices throughout history, at essentially any level, will show this.

@IntotheWardrobe

6 ай бұрын

Meyer addresses this in the interview. There are, of course those whose conscious is corrupted in some or all areas of common morality.

Man… I have GOT to stop kicking old ladies in the shins.. road to recovery is rough you guys, but I’ll get there. Just have to put one foot in front of the other, just, just not into an old ladies shin…

Or it's "just" biology.

@cantdestroyher7245

10 ай бұрын

No doubt our ideas of good come from the evolutionary advantages of being social creatures but their could always be more to it. Kind of impossible to know one way or the other

@ultracrepiderian

10 ай бұрын

Prove it

@XxBoriHalaMadridxX

10 ай бұрын

Morality cannot stem from evolutionary processes in a materialist worldview. It done any logically work 🤦🏿‍♂️ people just yell “biology” as a default without having any understanding as to whether it’s even possible or not. Heck, people don’t even understand what they say they “believe”, they just yell it out confidently.

@tayzk5929

9 ай бұрын

@@ultracrepiderian What does "prove it" mean?

@ultracrepiderian

9 ай бұрын

@@tayzk5929 that the having a conscience that's extremely similar all over the world is just biology. 😂 Did u forget what the video is about genius??

Their discovering Christian morality 😮

It is beautiful but only if you take it all the way to Jesus Christ ❤

Oh no...

I farted. It was beautiful.

@thecrow4597

7 ай бұрын

Ahh the subversion of meaning. Genius level irony to say that on this video

Mankind innately has the law of God written on our conscience...and we know the difference between right and wrong; but now, God expects us to accept Jesus as our Savior; and performing "good" deeds" is not enough. He is the possessor of all of creation, and we have to acquiesce to the way that He deems is the only way to be saved...repent and turn to Jesus!🙏🏾🙏🏾🩸🩸🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💞💞

Lewis wrote good books but so did L Ron Hubbard. (Battlefield Earth was a guilty pleasure.) That being said, his philosophy about a universal "god derived" morality is nonsense. It's like new world creationism but for societal norms. Except this is even easier to debunk.

@-John-Doe-

3 ай бұрын

it‘s not like young world creationism at all. You’d have to use a very specific strawman of a _‘sky daddy‘_ magically snapping his fingers to believe that, which isn’t representative of the natural theology of the past two millenia whatsoever. The Flintstones isn’t theology.

So CS Lewis’ pro-God argument is a Taoist (non-theistic) one? Huh. That seems dishonest. Kind of like how CS Lewis says he was an atheist who was angry at God for creating the world. Like dude. Then you were never an atheist. It’s embarrassing that Christians still hold him in such high regard. Specifically because his ideas are self-contradictory and the average Christian will never take the time to honestly go through them.

@IntotheWardrobe

4 күн бұрын

Not embarrassing at all if you actually "take the time to honestly go through" the points you've challenged. Dao is simply a way to describe the apparent order of the universe. It is not a concept that is exclusive to Taoism. Here's the quote from Lewis that you are referencing: "I was at this time living, like so many Atheists or Antitheists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world. Why should creatures have the burden of existence forced on them without their consent?" The whole point of this passage is to highlight the contradictions that Lewis himself was experiencing as an intellectual atheist. These internal struggles are not uncommon to Lewis and I would venture to say they are very common to many atheists. Rather than weakening Lewis's position, I believe you have highlighted the weakness of your own position. The common conflict in the heart and mind of the atheist only further supports the idea that there is an internal sense of tao in us all--one which only makes sense if there is an ultimate Creator of Order.

@Godels_revolution

3 күн бұрын

@@IntotheWardrobe don’t break your back doing those mental gymnastics. Where do you get off acting like CS Lewis was an atheist? You’re self-contradicting and so was he. If he had anger at God then he was not an atheist no matter what internal conflict he had. He just wasn’t a full blown believer yet. I don’t have any anger at God, because he doesn’t exist so that would be dumb, and self-contradictory… I’m angry at the narcissistic Christians like Lewis who think they have a corner on truth, who colonize eastern ideas, and who teach everyone that being a human is a punishable offense. The fact that there’s truth in Taoism means nothing positive for Christianity. Taoism: derives ethics through observation and harmony with the natural world (no god needed) Lewis completely redefined and missed the point of Taoism but speaks on it like an authority. Sure, you’re going to flat out deny that, but I actually care enough to study Lao-Zhuang philosophy and I can tell the difference. Lewis doesn’t even represent Nihilism correctly. Bro. And you’re over here talking about “take the time” and “honestly going through the points.” Look at yourself in the mirror. Most Christians, and evidently you, immediately assume anyone else must be ignorant if we disagree with your NARROW view of things. No god who gives infinite punishment for finite crime is worth the second thought. You better hope he doesn’t exist cause even if you made it into the book of life, half the people you care about or have ever met will be burning. No other message is more dehumanizing than the gospel. Not even nihilism since everything would just be meaningless. In Nihilism you don’t start life “in debt” the way you do in Christianity. But yeah. Go ahead and tell me I haven’t taken the time. That I haven’t read the books. That I haven’t done the work. That I haven’t attended the seminars and debates. That god put the truth on my heart and I’m just in denial. That I just have to come to the right understanding. Go ahead and say that faith is evidence. Go ahead and baselessly claim that morals and order can only come from a god. Go ahead and project your Christian cognitive dissonance onto me. And then, since you apparently know, go ahead and tell me what I have going on inside me, this apparent “conflict in the heart and mind of the atheist.”

our Creator is Yahweh and He wants us to obey His Word The Torah.

@joerogan I would like to encourage along the journey, that this/my existence right here right now is better because of my spiritual walk with the creator and his son Jesus Christ. I would love to share it with you.

…..I mean… Lewis said it best.

Please don't bring him into this. I've already had enough.

@fragwagon

10 ай бұрын

C.S. Lewis?

@chrismoney1468

10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan is a deceiver, for sure.

@fragwagon

10 ай бұрын

@chrismoney1468 nah, he's just a dude, and a mediocre standup. Good interviewer however.

@chrismoney1468

10 ай бұрын

@@fragwagon nah, he’s a controlled opposition shill. You don’t get to have the world’s most popular podcast, host multiple TV shows, and be the main UFC announcer without selling your soul. Literally.

@adamarens3520

10 ай бұрын

@@chrismoney1468I think he has had to compromise throughout his career, but I believe him to be genuine. And I don’t agree with his personal beliefs usually or drug use but he is a good interviewer. Joe is just doing his thing, he isn’t out to deceive you.

It's Jesus, God is Love... True Love. Man, He is calling Joe Rogan... Father God, please bring your son to Christ, to the knowledge of you. In Jesus Christ's Holy Name amen.

JR is such a clown. He believes according to his guests…. L o s er

Joe you have misunderstood THE LORD JESUS CHRIST .... NO-ONE is good BUT GOD ALMIGHTY ... as THE LORD JESUS CHRIST stated before obeying THE FATHER'S WILL of being chosen to be sacrificed on the cross for EVERY SIN EVER commited BUT only those accepting THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA as their SAVIOUR being granted access to THE HIS KINGDOM!

joe rogan 💀

Where was this good before humans existed? Morality emerged as humans developed their cognitive faculties. Not sure how that’s relevant to the universe.

@IntotheWardrobe

8 ай бұрын

How do you know this to be true? To say that morality doesn't exist unless a person's mind can conceive of it is akin to saying light doesn't exist unless a person's eyes can detect it. Or are you saying morality is just a mental construct and doesn't actually exist?

@kennyehm2004

8 ай бұрын

@@IntotheWardrobeLight would still be light without minds. Where is morality without a mind? Morality doesn’t seem relevant to the universe. It appears to be a product of the mind. It requires a certain cognitive capacity to compare behavior. Species that don’t have that capacity we don’t call moral or immoral. We don’t consider tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, cancer, etc, to be moral or immoral.

@jackalsgate1146

8 ай бұрын

​​@@IntotheWardrobe You - How do we know this to be true.? Does that mean light doesn't exist unless we are able to detect it. Response - Light comes from a material source: the Sun, candles, electricity. Morality is a concept invented by man. Man lists those things he deems good and evil. Morality constantly rises and falls, expands and contracts, alongside man. We know this is true because we can see its evolution throughout history. 1) There was a time when it was acceptable to r@pe your wife until man made it morally unacceptable. 2) There was a time when child labor was acceptable in coal mines until man made it morally unacceptable. 3) In 1880, the ages of sexual consent were set at ten or twelve in most states, with the exception of Delaware, where it was seven. It was acceptable until man changed the consent laws making it morally unacceptable.

Tired of his stupidity.

Speaker: “Everyone thinks kicking old people in the shin for pleasure is wrong.” Me: Then explain why some people think titty-twisters are funny. For the record I consider titty-twisters full sexual assault, period. I’d much rather be kicked in the shin. My point is we can no longer assume anything is “universally wrong.”

@Martin-hd2tr

2 ай бұрын

People find them funny because they know it's wrong. Or do you think people do things like titty twisters or kicking old ladies because they actually think theyre doing something morally good? Obviously people do - and enjoy - things that are wrong. That doesnt mean that theyre not universally understood to be wrong. What you're saying is "people do wrong Things with pleasure, therefore there is no right and wrong". That's a very weak argument

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope

Why did he call it the “Dao”? This is worrying considering that is associated with the false pagan religion of Daoism/Taoism worry 🤨

@IntotheWardrobe

10 ай бұрын

I believe by using a term from eastern philosophy, he is further illustrating the truth of the concept: that natural law is something that exists in all people and is universally recognized by all faiths. It isn't an acceptance of Taoism, it is an aknowlegment of an undeniable common ground which serves as convincing evidence of a Creator. Here's his quote: "The Tao, which others may call Natural Law or Traditional Morality or the First Principles of Practical Reason or the First Platitudes, is not one among a series of possible systems of value. It is the sole source of all value judgments. If it is rejected, all value is rejected. If any value is retained, it is retained. The effort to refute it and raise a new system of value in its place is self-contradictory. There has never been, and never will be, a radically new judgment of value in the history of the world. What purport to be new systems or…ideologies…all consist of fragments from the Tao itself, arbitrarily wrenched from their context in the whole and then swollen to madness in their isolation, yet still owing to the Tao and to it alone such validity as they posses."

@jackalsgate1146

8 ай бұрын

​​​@@IntotheWardrobe Morality is not one of the Laws of Nature cause if it was then every animal on the planet would abide by the Laws of Morality. Nature abhors a vacuum. Man is the epitome of life and he has a thinking brain. Stop thinking that mankind is so stupid that he can't conceive of moral law and be the foundation of it.

@-John-Doe-

3 ай бұрын

Because it’s an example that exists cross culturally, which is an argument made by Saint Thomas Aquinas. The point of theology is to study divinity, which all religions approach but can never fully articulate. This is also related to the concept of an objective monotheism as a unifying subject. Christianity is understood by Christians as the closest approximation of the nature of this divinity.

These are things that thousandsof years of cultural and biological evolution have taught us.

@Marlon__99

8 ай бұрын

Totally False. Morality is Objective (God sets the standard) my friend.

@jackalsgate1146

8 ай бұрын

​@@Marlon__99 Morality is subjective, my friend. Did morality exist before humans existed.? No. That's like saying traffic laws existed before the invention of cars.

@Marlon__99

8 ай бұрын

@@jackalsgate1146 Exactly. Once cars were invented, traffic laws were then put into place. Just like when Humans were created and sinned against God, He then put up the Laws that are written on our hearts.. God put something in man which Gives us the knowledge of what right and wrong is our conscience bearing witness of it also. People don’t want to face the fact.. God is the creator, he’s the most high

@jackalsgate1146

8 ай бұрын

@@Marlon__99 Good and Evil comes from man. Man makes laws, and man gives names and titles to things. God has nothing to do with it. If morality was objective, then morality, would have existed before thinking man existed. That is literally the definition of: Objective. Morality cannot be objective by definition.

@Marlon__99

8 ай бұрын

@@jackalsgate1146 I’m saying it did always exist, I’m simply saying God put it into place for Human beings when we came into existence. It was already there even when we weren’t here. God Didn’t Create Moral Law, It’s Simply A Reflection Of His Character.Moral truths are malleable and subjective if they aren’t grounded in a transcendent source (God). I guess we can agree to disagree. Morality is not Subjective sir.

C.S. Lewis was a joy to read when i was young. There are universals... in more ways than we think.

@ryana1787

4 ай бұрын

What is universal? If you remove “for fun”, is it always wrong to kick a person in the shin?

@-John-Doe-

3 ай бұрын

@@ryana1787​​⁠ Generally any concept that is reliable and valid which exists cross culturally. The study of _‘divinity‘_ existing cross culturally has been established in Christianity for at least the better half of the past millennium.

@ryana1787

3 ай бұрын

@@-John-Doe- yah. I’m asking for an example of a universal, and why “for fun” is added? It’s because kicking an old lady in the shin is not universally wrong.

@-John-Doe-

3 ай бұрын

@@ryana1787 I think _‘kicking an old lady in the shins for fun‘_ is just a conversational example. What you’re describing is more akin to the distinction between Homicide and Justified Homicide. Theft is a pretty common concept cross culturally. Adultery or _‘Cheating‘_ is an interesting one, as it’s widely regarded as very bad despite being legal in some places _(with exceptions, it still has consequences)_ Various conceptions of manners, rudeness, insults, etc exist cross culturally. Insults generally aren‘t regarded as a good things, but just as with homicide we can more critically look into things like comedy or satire. The idea is that morality can be studied cross culturally, it’s not entirely random or arbitrary.

@ryana1787

3 ай бұрын

@@-John-Doe- understood. I think the fact that there are common threads across cultures is completely expected, since we are all humans and all want others to treat us well. It shows that well-being is the moral standard. No god is needed for that.

Joe Rogan is one of the worst human beings on the planet, so later… I’ll go into the wardrobe in the future using other methods

@FoliX

10 ай бұрын

What has he done?

@fragwagon

10 ай бұрын

​@FoliX he's had different opinions than other people. Anyone with a different opinion should be shunned don't you know. Also if you even mention an idea and it has the shunned person in it, you must not engage with the idea or you will be shunned. Now put on your smock like a good hamdmaiden for these people

@averdict1758

10 ай бұрын

Dude I don't even really like him, but he's not that bad.

@IntotheWardrobe

10 ай бұрын

How strange that you think this has anything to do with Joe Rogan.

@dysfunctionalthor4719

10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan is a shmuck but he’s not Hitler lmao

Absolutely disgusting.

Weirdo smiles when talking about kicking old women in the shins and reiterates it and it’s weird.

@chrisgaddy10

9 ай бұрын

He smirks because it's a purposely silly example. Obviously, no one would think it is good...

@jackabalas

9 ай бұрын

@@chrisgaddy10 nah not buying it, he’s a weirdo the mental gymnastics at play with him are terminal