This slow, dry energy is so different from everything on KZread now... I honestly sometimes forget that there are a lot of people who don't shout over each other and have actually a kind of abstract sense of humour.

@syp123

2 жыл бұрын

"Motivational listener" got me winded

@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey

2 жыл бұрын

You articulated something I was feeling but didn't consciously realise. We need more like that. Love kerry in England, UK ❤

@fibretowne

2 жыл бұрын

Some call this communication style Adulting 😊

@clorofilaazul

Жыл бұрын

Search for Lex Fridman

It's gotta be said; this podcast is really entertaining. I love that you guys have these short, random intermissons where you talk about some old movie or actor. I wish you all the best!

@catchtwenty22

2 жыл бұрын

The chemistry between them is engaging.

@stephaniesaberhagen

2 жыл бұрын

It keeps my ADHD brain so happy. I never get bored and I tend to retain more because I'm not overloaded. 10/10 best commentary on KZread

@Rsalazar913

2 жыл бұрын

443ey ry

I'm a little surprised that none of you touched upon the idea that sending teenage Jodi to another country for awhile got her parents a likely much needed break from her.

@JWBruh-qi1yx

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a pretty expensive daycare

@maryjocassell48

Жыл бұрын

I believe they said that Jodi would hit her Mom at times during her teenage years, too.

I feel like you’d be a fun group to play a table top rpg with lol

@GentleRayneASMR

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Totally! haha!

@josephkappil3181

2 жыл бұрын

@@GentleRayneASMR q

@piparalegal2019

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! I would love to play D&D or Pathfinder with these guys!

@eleanornelson5810

3 ай бұрын

Yes! DnD would be amazing! But who’s the Cleric?

This story is about two users who found each other. Then their worlds collided. Travis used Jodie for sex and she was ok with that until she realized there was never going to be anything else. This channel has it all, murder, manipulation, sex, and detailed commentary. Thanks, guys!

@kraceynuemann8533

2 жыл бұрын

Ur so right

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. However, for anyone to murder another human the way she did? takes it to another level. Also, to drive after you murder someone to another potential boyfriend and act like "nothing happened"? Yes, Travis did use Jodi for sex, yet she gladly agreed. Maybe then she was using him for sex as well. As far as I know, Travis never proposed to Jodi (which is clearly what she wanted) or made any promises to her when it comes to their future. This is a woman who accused Travis looking at under aged very illegal actually pictures, yet continued to sleep with him. Jodi is where she belongs.

@jfraserfisher

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think he so much set out to use her for sex, Deanna, his ex girlfriend of 3 years stated when they broke up he never asked her for sex, made moves on her, suggested hooking up or anything although they stayed very close friends. She even took care of his dog after his death. I think he couldn't say no when Jodi was offering herself up, in text, on phone or in person. She was constantly pushing her sexuality at him and he was honest with her that he was pursing other women, their relationship as a couple was over and he would never marry her or get back together with her. I believe that he was naive to women as aggressive as her and didn't not see the danger as her obsession and jealousy grew. He had never had any woman around him that was similar to Jodi. I don't believe he was using her actively, as in seeking her out as all communication, visits ect were initiated by Jodi. If she had gone back to California and never contacted him again I fully believe he would never have reached out to her and continued pursing Mimi.

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfraserfisher Deanna and him did have sex, however she stated he was never "explicit" about it like he was with Jodi. ( When she was asked questions about it at the trial).When it comes to Jodi, yes she was good to him for one thing only and Jodi kept giving it . Jodi wanted commitment he did not (with her). It happens all the time, as the saying goes, "There is a type you marry and then is the other type you...

@KoreaMojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfraserfisher intention only matters so much over time. What you set out to do and what you end up habitually doing might cause cognitive dissonance. You can excuse yourself for example but the truth may be ugly to you that you keep doing something for reasons of character as much as not taking precautions against certain behavior. You can always say no if you want to. I've never be unable to resist something I didn't want and also make myself available to engage if I had impulse control.

Dr. Grande's notion that Jodi was "the embodiment of Travis's shame" is very true and profound.

By December the podcast episodes are going to be 6 hours long. A year from now, the hosts will take turns taking naps during the episodes.

@jpincinjr

3 жыл бұрын

😄 we will have to take a break for the tangent part mid-episode

@MichaelSmith-jd5ki

3 жыл бұрын

We've already worked out the rotation schedule...

@MrVacuumBrainBimbo

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-jd5ki LOL It's good to get these matters out of the way early in order to lay down an efficient roadmap for the future :) I wish you were my counselor, Michael. Keep up the awesome work, my dude!

@Desertmoonlight23

2 жыл бұрын

I like the length. Too many details are missed in abbreviated videos.

As someone desperately trying to find a time machine before reaching 30, I think that pressure to find a life partner exists everywhere. Seeing those around me getting married and starting families it feels like being alone is a failure and a defect. Even with the understanding that this is illogical, the pressure definitely exists.

@maryellengodfrey

3 жыл бұрын

My daughter waited till late late 30s . I always told her not to go there. Not to settle for anyone who was not obviously loving to her and had potential to both stay happy and could be happy alone. She found him just like I said. Thank God. I thank him every day for such a good son in law. Plus at 38 they just had a little boy. They have so much more to give their son than most. The important stuff is to stop the negative causes in parenting that are defying our future potential. Trust.

@Lindsey0007

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I am 33 and feel like a failure for not being married or having kids and double whammy for having PTSD to the point I’m on disability so I don’t have a career and I haven’t traveled the world either. My childhood best friend has the Facebook perfect life, and it’s easy to compare my life to her and feel like an other failure. I grew up in a Mormon area where most people get married by 22. I still compare myself them to and I’m not even Mormon! Yeah it sucks.

@maryellengodfrey

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lindsey0007 Tera Brock - ( not sure of the spelling ) is talking the latest on recovery from ptsd here on you tube. They have some miracle ways now to go into the feelings that the PTSD creates within and learning how to move that stuff out of our body’s and psyches. Brain spotting is like going to the doctor for me each session and removing that stuff. It’s a technique like EMDR which access parts of the nervous system through the movement of our eyes as we learn to relate to and accept and transcend the feeling states from ptsd. Listen Girls there is no love from others that we can’t give to ourselves. Being complete on our own is so much more powerful than being completed or needing to be completed by someone else. The point of love really is within unto our higher consciousness. At that point there is no need only giving without dependancy. Being Alone is being All One with Live and the universe and everything living in it. It is a path of self realization and sometimes doing it alone is the answer to our true path of love. The union with highest form of live by embodying it for ourselves is without need. In fact All One is a very mighty choice even though it is the road less traveled or perhaps because it is the road less traveled is part of the initiation. Don’t give up on loving ourselves free from the confinement of how we see love with our egos. I know because I’m single and much much older and I’m so glad I’m alone and 100 percent happy with it! What a great thing! Nothing better! At this point it can be just about giving and giving in a way that causes me only joy because I own me in love with or without a partner!!! I’m very proud of that!

@Lindsey0007

2 жыл бұрын

@@maryellengodfrey that is some really good insight and definitely something I will ponder on. Were you able to come to the stage you’re at now without EMDR and stuff?

@ReaperCH90

2 жыл бұрын

I think that is an american thing and not an everywhere thing. At least here in western Europe, I don't see these tendencies.

A new habit of me is to wait which topic will be discussed in depth on this channel & before every new upload I watch the analysis of Dr. G. It's like watching the trailer & then the movie (:

@stephaniesaberhagen

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Dr G's channel gives the cliff's notes

@kimberlyheslin7519

2 жыл бұрын

I've been doing the same thing!

You guys need me on the show. I could offer some insight as a life coach with NPD. She did a headstand because it flushed her cheeks to make her look better in the mugshot.

@kateashby3066

7 ай бұрын

That’s entirely possible, but I tend to disagree that this was the motive for the headstand. She also stretched and sang songs. I feel like she was trying hard to look relaxed and not stressed. Oh and she pretended to sleep too! And when the detective didn’t walk into the room but rather- past it, she “woke up”.

I always found the huge irony in this case was that Jodi was such a photography fanatic, taking pictures of and documenting her and Travis' entire relationship with photos, and it was a camera that brought her down and convicted her . I agree with Dr. Grande that without the evidence of the camera data card , she would have gone free.

@KatrinaDancer

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe except she did leave a palm print in blood on the wall and her blood was mixed with his blood so she might've been convicted anyway especially after talking to the police so much 🤷

@liliannaogrady1391

Жыл бұрын

​@@KatrinaDancer I was thinking the same thing. Her handprint on the wall with Travis' blood is pretty hard to explain away.

@noraheffernan4537

8 ай бұрын

What about the gas cans & palm prints on the wall of Travis Alexander home🤔 I disagree the murder was premeditated. Brutal. Jodi Arias should of got the death penalty.

@nhvanonerz8244

7 ай бұрын

​@@KatrinaDancereven if there was zero evidence literally the perfect crime and no one had suspected her she would have still got caught cause narcissista tell on themselves. She would have crumbled just the same in interrogation. And also it usually is a romantic partner in a crime of passion like this.

An interesting discussion. It’s very hard for me to buy the “she planned to kill him so she stabbed him first and then shot him in the head, then he got himself back in the bathroom “ theory. She’s very petite and he’s much bigger than her. Rather, this makes a lot more sense: 1) She shot him in the shower but the small, weak gun and caliber that she used, and the angle of the shot, didn’t kill him. 2) Having put only one bullet in the gun in order to stage a suicide, she couldn’t shoot him again, so she ran down to the kitchen to get a knife. 3) Meanwhile. disoriented, he tried to escape, stumbling and crawling about the bathroom area, finally finding the hallway leading to the bedroom. 4) She intercepted him and finished him off by stabbing him and slashing his throat. 5) She dragged him by the feet back to the shower stall, where she originally had planned for him to lie dead 6) She (very stupidly) put the camera in the laundry, thinking it would destroy the memory ship I didn’t come up with this theory btw. This comes from here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fWWkmK-uiLnSgrw.html He took the forensic evidence and crime photos to put the pieces of the puzzle together, and I must say it makes much more sense. One thing we can agree on is that he died a most horrible death. She should have gotten the death penalty. Instead she gets free room and board for life, and who knows what other amenities based on “good behavior”, paid for by our tax dollars. This is our pathetic excuse for a “justice” system.

@nhvanonerz8244

7 ай бұрын

Has she never told the story in detail of how she murdered him ?

@chillertheater

2 ай бұрын

Thank you. I agree completely with you. I also believe her (imagine that!) when she insisted that the shot came first. Travis’ position in the last photo of him alive was seated, hence the poorly aimed shot that went through his face and missed his brain. One thing that intrigues me is the photo where Travis is turned to the side but looks startled as if she snuck up on him.

Dr. Grande has his bad boy hair going on:)

Dr. Grande what other profession would YOU have chosen? I enjoy listening to you guys banter.

Dr. Grande, you really hit the mark on borderline personality and what it can be like. My ex girlfriend had it, along with bi polar disorder and it was a very rocky road to say the least. Thank you, Michael and Jeff for continuing to entertain us viewers with your wit, your charm and your in depth look at cases like this, it’s most appreciated. It really helped me when I was painting last night too. We really appreciate it! 😊

@kateashby3066

7 ай бұрын

Jesus- I have BPD. ALSO having bipolar disorder sounds like too much to handle (just having BPD usually stretches one too thin many times). I really can’t fathom that.

Are you guys able to talk about the West memphis 3 case? It's a case I find so fascinating and would love to hear all your opinions on it! Xx

Enjoy this podcast thoroughly and the thought provoking discussions. Keep up the great work

Fellas, this is really interesting! I like so much that you’re taking your time to go over as much detail as you can between all of your expertise. I also enjoy the digressions about movies, guns, cars, other cases, etc., the self-deprecating humor, and references to others in your field and other fields. It starts out a little rigidly perhaps, but then you all get into a groove that is compelling and dynamic. A power trio of nerds! I’m looking forward to listening to the rest of these! On a side note, my own recent experiences in a highly dysfunctional, mutually destructive relationship draws me to this case as I sometimes get a creepy feeling that something like this could’ve happened if it had gone on much longer. That sounds dramatic, but listening to this, some of the parallels truly disturb this listener. Thankfully, it ended without bloodshed, yikes!

Wow, I’m really enjoying this podcast! Three wise, intelligent, and interesting perspectives to consider.

So happy to see this upload! So Jeff wanted to be high up on a multilevel marketing company and Mike wanted to be a motivational speaker but ended up being a motivational interviewer.🤣🤣🤣🤣 You guys are too funny.😅 I am so looking forward to this podcast, I followed this case closely whenever it happened....😉

@rejaneoliveira5019

3 жыл бұрын

@@sato7320 Really?! Wow, that’s so interesting. I watched the trial and the impression I got from Jodi is that she is a very superficial, shallow person.🙁

@debbiemilam2204

3 жыл бұрын

You're right I watched the trial gravel to gravel. My roommate and I went to our separate rooms and watched. Comment in passing to the kitchen!

@Lindsey0007

3 жыл бұрын

Funny Jodi and Travis were in an MLM and Travis wanted to be a motivational speaker! 😂😂😂

Loving this podcast! Here are a few topic suggestions: Robert Blake/Bonnie Lee Blakely, Casey Anthony, the murder of Ted Ammon, Phil & Brynn Hartman, the murders of Bernice & Ben Novak, Jr.

I can’t believe Dr.Grande said he’s not sure she had planned to kill him! (Suggested instead she made a last plea to go to Cancun) while the Cancun please is still possible, she very obviously planned that if he said no, she was going to kill him. Not only did she plan the amount of gas so she could be undetected, she also removed her license plates. (Or put them upside down I can’t remember) She also dyed her hair brown right before she left, and stole the gun. So many obvious signs that she intended to do exactly what she did.

@shable1436

Жыл бұрын

Phone off

@wts7273

Жыл бұрын

@@shable1436 yes that as well

Liking this Dr Grande (and friends)! Good to see a conversational format, in addition to your analysis videos!

Keep em’ coming. This is one of my favorite channels because it’s so well researched and I love all the different thoughts on the evidence/motives. Keep it up!

At first glance, I thought Mike shaved a fork into the bottom of his beard. Then I realized it was his mic blending into his shirt

I think one of the most devious things she said was (after she had gotten her life without the possibility of parole) "I remember now; he was still alive when his throat got slit".

Amazing testament to your work effort and the quality of your content that you have adds already and are earning subscribers quickly! Very well deserved in my opinion, this is now my favourite podcast. I can’t believe dr Grande has enough time in the day to fit in a several hour long podcast, with editing and filming etc as well as the normal daily videos. Don’t work yourself to the ground! Loving the content though

Glad you guys did this one!! Verry entertaining case for sure!!! Good job job on the movies today jeff.. you killed it man!! Keep up the good work guys.. loving this podcast!!!!!! Them desks are filling up with a bunch of kool stuff!!:)

How do you do so many podcasts that require considerable research? Impressive!

Love watching you three x Insighful, funny and random. One visual suggestion, one curved table that you all sit at, the three separate tables looks stilted.

@BiancaBabe

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Grande needs to be in the middle soon everyone can see each other easily. Idk maybe less harsh cuts.. idk 😶 love the work tho guys

Looking forward to listening! Would ya'll consider a live panel where we could post comments and questions for you in real time?

@n8vscience842

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man that would be awesome!!!

the guys on the left and the right need more air time 😃

Awesome! Each of you have great knowledge and perspective.

Great job on the content and improving the audio, all!

Really enjoy you guys' meandering conversational style. Wish you'd thrown in something about Travis's nightmare childhood living in squalor with 6-7 siblings and drug addict parents. It was central to his motivational speeches at PPL, and central to the sort of damage he brought into his many failed relationships.

This should be a good one. Thanks guys have a great week

Love Dr Grandes channel and love this even more! You three have a great chemistry. Keep it up

I didn't know this was on KZread!! Yaaay!!! I thought it was a podcast somewhere in the podcast world 😄 I watched the entire trial some summers ago, and am really enjoying this. Thank you so much guys👍🏼❤️🙏🏼

Love your new podcast Dr. Grande. AND Jeff and Michael!!

So excited to listen to this. One of my “favorite” notorious cases (if you can appropriately favorite a murder case)

Hell yea!! Love you Dr. Grande, I’ve learned a lot from you

I can’t wait to hear your thoughts and opinions on this case in more detail Dr. Grande!!!

thanks for your insights and I ll hope to see the 3 of you discussing again evergreen cases like this one :D

Loving the long format!

I really enjoy this format as an addition to your regular channel. Thank you, Dr. Grande.

Nice! Listening to your podcast while getting two teeth pulled.

Just love the new show, I didn't realize how long this episode was as the time just flew by

Thank you Bella Grande Media team for the excellent content. Also, the conversational format works well. It’s a joy to watch & listen to your analysis. Keep up the good work. Please take a look at the southern illinois university @ carbondale case of Pravin Varughese. I would love to hear your take on this case.

I'm a Masters graduate and PhD student, and LOST it at the "motivational speaker, motivational listener/motivational interviewer" a couple of minutes in. Really appreciate the wry humor on this channel.

I love that this murder podcast digressed into a detailed discussion of Airplane!

@jpincinjr

3 жыл бұрын

Truly our pleasure on that one ☺️

Her behavior is consistent with male stalking. A neurologist who studied male stalkers said there are 3 distinct areas in the brain related to mating. Attachment, sexual attraction and romantic love. The purpose of romantic love is to make sure that "love is blind". It facilitates mating by blurring the perception of defects in a prospective partner. In male stalkers, the region of the brain that governs attachment was much larger than it should be. Usually, the male stalkers had already moved on to other sexual relationships. Some were married to other people. But they were still attached to the earlier partner and continued to stalk them. This behavior is associated with a violent outcome.

Im so glad to see you guys again, I really love Mike Smith, salutes from London. Uk, also to Jeff and Dr. Grande, hey! Ready to listen to this podcast, wishing many more!

@MichaelSmith-jd5ki

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I actually attended trainings on Narrative Therapy (my specialty) in London in 2018 and 2019. Covid broke my streak. I am hoping to get back for more training and more time in London in the next year or so. I love London ❤

@TecOneself

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-jd5ki You're welcome to London any time. I was undercover assistant of therapy groups for 13 years. Basically stirring the emotions so they open up and the therapist gets deeper to balance. You are doing great with Dr Grande, I'm now with the rules of roleplay for interactive writers (in character) online. It needs more investigation from Academics on the grey areas (pros and dangers). Eventually it will help for Virtual Reality. You are most welcome to be a part and ask me, anytime. London is beautiful, yes.

Looking forward to the next Lizard Humanoid. Have you considered adding pictures throughout the podcasts? I find myself pausing to look stuff up. If you start a movie topic, I’d like to know your top 3 picks.

You guys are making me really curious about these recordings... ;)

Nice to see more content thanks Doc!

Dr Grande, is there enough public information available for you to do a podcast in the Van Breda family murders in South Africa? I'll help with the pronunciation : fun brida. Would really appreciate it.

Prepaid legal is like that hideously ugly cladding that a salesman almost convinces you you need to protect your home from the environment. It's just not needed but when they try to sell to you, they make it make so much sense that you need it.

This is such a thoroughly intelligent show. Every detail you are unbiased and very well researched. Top notch

As a woman who just left an abusive relationship a year ago from a man who could have killed me....as the victim...I would never have killed him. She still stalked him. She still threatened his girlfriend. Truly I empathize with her pain of rejection....but she STILL killed him. If he was physically abusing her, trapping her in a relationship...but he wasn't. She needed to walk away. He was a jerk. My ex hurt me physically. I still didn't want to kill him. Please lets not let her get a pass. In the case of that young girl who killed her abuser and trafficker....I think she was justified. Jodi was a serial monogamist who had serious problems being alone and she used and abused several men in her path of destruction. She did not deserve to kill him.

@samanthalake5011

Жыл бұрын

You should've killed him.

@kateashby3066

7 ай бұрын

Yes but would you make a “survivor” t shirt in a pretty font? Jk- I hope that wasn’t in poor taste 😂

Everything Jodi said about Travis was garbage, but his mistake was to continue hooking up with her just for sex when it was obvious she wanted more and obvious she was a nut job. If someone is stalking you, you don't hook up with them. If you run into a nut job like Jodi you need to RUN!!!!! Poor Travis, I feel for him, but men (and women) if you get mixed up with a crazy person, you must extricate yourself COMPLETELY. Don't leave them hanging around.

@Elleffe

3 жыл бұрын

this

@isaiahhuerta1254

3 жыл бұрын

I think his addiction wasn’t just the physical sex. Obviously, the sexual repression that accompanies the LDS lifestyle cranks that aspect up to 11… but it was the toxic cycles of the entire relationship that made it difficult to leave. Reducing Travis Alexander to a man just wanting convenient sex is missing the mental anguish that comes from weak borders and the vulnerable need for reassurance as a man.

@Elleffe

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaiahhuerta1254 the vulnerable need for reassurance as a man = search for convenient and easy sex

@internetperson9121

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaiahhuerta1254 I hear what you're saying and respect it. However, they weren't breaking up and getting back together, they were just hooking up. Bottom line: I don't think we have enough information to determine whether it's as layered as you assert or as simple as I assert. Sometimes sex is just sex.

@isaiahhuerta1254

3 жыл бұрын

@@internetperson9121 Right, obviously this is all speculation… but I think the fact that they exchanged more than 80,000 emails denotes something deeper than just physical gratification.

My new favorite podcast!!! Chris watts, Scott Peterson, Susan smith, OJ, and the Menendez brothers would be some good ones for y’all to dive into!

Wonderful peace for this channel. Loving it

I love this podcast!!!

@1:51:44 Let’s address the fact someone off camera fell off their chair.

What a strange coincidence! I randomly re-watched Grande's Jodi Arias videos just a few hours before this was posted, haha!

So, a 20-year-old woman who is with a 40-year-old man has boundary issues. What does the man have?

And this is where Travis enlisted some disapproving judgement during the trial - in that he deemed Jodi as tainted, even as he continued to sexually engage with her. A double standard. He was poaching her but considered her a “throw back fish.” How dare him. This is where he crossed the line. Mr. Duplicity lived two lives. She gave him every mirror opportunity suggested and he had rejected it yet continued to throw her a bone of hope. In her mind, they were intimate and that meant a future. She believed they were trauma bonded.

@debbiemilam2204

3 жыл бұрын

You're right sista! It takes two to be intimate. She was stringing him along with her sexualized attractive self. She knew he would take the bait!

@n8vscience842

2 жыл бұрын

She is still ....a murderer. I have loved and lost and been abused and thrown back and sorry, not once have I decided to take someone's life. Eeeee

@n8vscience842

2 жыл бұрын

@Raven Balcom 💯 exactly. Victim blaming isn't ever ok.

@goodtimesbadtimes5273

2 жыл бұрын

You have no clue about narcissistic psychopath behaviors and manipulation do you? Did you even go through the full case details? Dr grade himself probably haven’t. I have spent about 2 weeks now probably about 80 hours in total to understand everything about this case because I dealt with two narcissistic women and they have psychopathic traits too but not as high as Jodi Arias. First thing everyone needs to understand about psychopaths and narcissists is that they can’t emotionally connect with anyone, their love language is manipulation, control, obsession, attention seeking. Even if you’re having sex with them there is always that emotional disconnect because they don’t participate in sex because they love you it’s because they want you to love them more, so they know you love them, they love to see that intense love for them in you. Then take it away to see how feel and react etc. thats a form of control and manipulation. She was sleeping around, she’s not totally invested into Travis sexually, if he ever really called her skank, that’s exactly who she is, if Travis knew she is a narcissistic psychopath he wouldn’t have called her a Skank, he would have differently called her a narcissistic psychopath. Anyone whose dealt with or experienced some healthy relationship at some point will start to feel something is not right, that’s exactly what Travis felt. A part of him wants her but he understood she’s not a marriage material. She is a master manipulator, Travis is a gullible man, when he first met her for her charms, innocent cute, submissive behavior he thought he found a wife, he introduced her to everyone of his friends and family too. It’s always been a long distance relationship they never lived together, it’s easy for her to juggle dudes. After Travis broke up with her that caused a narcissistic injury and rage all that rage is hidden covered under the mask. The day she got to know he’s taking another women on a trip she lured into to sex through phone sex, she is the initiator, she literally moved near to Travis home after the break up. He broke up with her but he’s not committed to any women yet at that point in time. He was still looking, he got turned down by the women who he supposed to take on a trip with him. Her narcissistic psychopathic rage made her stab him 27 times, shot him and slit his throat, with in few hours after she went and had sex with another boyfriend like nothing had ever happened. Zero feelings, emotions etc it’s impossible to feel connected or feel like being in a healthy relationship with narcissists and psychopaths. Dr grande is only good with textbook or DSM definitions, he hasn’t experienced a relationship with a narcissist or a psychopath. That’s every psychologist is not for everyone since every abuse is different.

@ShadowMan64572

2 жыл бұрын

@@goodtimesbadtimes5273 "I have spent 2 weeks, probably 80 hours total to understand everything because I have dealt with 2 narcissistic women" Nobody cares.

Dr. Grande, low key gun enthusiast ;) love the tangents about such specificities. Keep up the high quality content gentlemen.

This is perfect to fall asleep to. No shouting manic stuff to jolt me awake as I drift off and good conversation too boot.

I would NEVER want my daughter to marry nor be entangled with someone like Travis Alexander !! He was a twisted soul. However he did not deserve to be executed by Jodi Arias. No one deserves 💀 death by another, whether it be my our state or our choice. Travis had no problem condemning Jodi’s reputation whilst he lived. He used her and abused her as he did not consider her ‘ Wife Material’. Sooo, that’s ok, just a different category of woman. Jodi Arias was literally furious in his rejection. She killed him in a premeditated fury.

@willnill7946

2 жыл бұрын

Guess it’s ok when women act like that though

These guys be having me cracking up lol the dry delivery but overall vibe is too much. 🔥 I love the chemistry between you 3; you are all insightful while being funny and still respectful regarding the topics you cover. Dr Grande lol ur humor is top tier 👌

I love seeing this other side of Dr Grande - keep it up doc!

A well placed(and well deserved) preemptive like.🤘👍🔔

Aaaaaand we're talking about Airplane! Lol 😆 🤣 😂

This is the best...do more and more..

The current tables per capita frontrunner on KZread! Keep up the excellent content, fellas.

I really enjoy your round table podcasts.

@jpincinjr

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Thanks Lee!

Excellent podcast..!! 👍🏻💯

I'm not an expert but I would say Jodi's appeal for the death penalty was effective reverse psychology.

And what would Dr. Grande be if he wasn't a mental health professional?

What the heck is this channel? This is pretty good doctor Grande. I'll subscribe.😇

Good video 👍

Wow thanks for doing this Doc this is a crazy case I've watched the entire court trial . I also got Juen Martinez's book about the trail

Jodi is one of my favorite trainwrecks. I was so committed, I watched the trial. Every. Single. Day. Glad to hear y'all's thoughts. 🥰

You guys do a Amazing job. Thank you for all your hard work. Love the section what did you want to be.

Ahhh my geeky little heart is happy to listen to this clever banter. :) I'd love to see/hear a Q&A session sometime, fellas!

I understand what Dr Grande is getting at . It is like the McCanns where Madeline would not have been abducted if she had not been left alone with her two younger siblings so many apportion blame to the McCanns .

Why am I just now discovering this channel 😳

I was so mad that I was too busy with work to watch this yesterday! But, it was definitely worth the wait. You guys are just too funny-I’m waiting to hear about more missed career opportunities. As far as the case goes, I think she was more into him than he was into her from the get go. She didn’t have a habit of just suddenly dropping partners before him, it was the opposite if anything. He must have been special to her. I think over time she realized she didn’t mean that much to him and her ego couldn’t take it-she had to make him pay somehow. Maybe that was when she started recording. Then the insult just kept growing until murder was on the table. But you’d have to be pretty self centered and short in empathy to go that far. I think he did use her, but I don’t have much sympathy for her regardless.

@maryjocassell48

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I really believe that she'd become obsessed with Travis. And absolutely his attachment to her was very unhealthy. 🥀🥀🥀🥀

I Love You guys! Not much makes me LOL… but you guys do! Thank you for the awesome analysis, and hilarious tangents. ❤

I love you guys but if you're going to talk about Mormonism, and yes, I'm not afraid of calling myself Mormon, please PM me. I was a very strict Mormon for decades and am now post-Mormon so I can give you the details from both sides of the aisle. The age 30 introduction thing.... is not a thing. LDS congregations are organized geographically, but in big cities (esp w/universities), there is an exception for Young Single Adult congregations, which are unmarried adults between the ages of 18-30. Since most LDS men are married by 21, 22, and the women often by 19, (though that is getting progressively older) the age cutoff just keeps men who are a decade older from preying on teenagers. And, since most attendees are at a university, it keeps the kids who are in the same general stage in life (college, grad school) together. Women also age out of these congregations at 30, so it's also not male-specific. At 30, they are expected to attend a regular congregation with children and old people 😂 But yes, the purpose is for those young adults to meet and get married!

I think the majority of women could identify Jodi, Lori Vallow, Diane Downs, etc. as trouble, on a very short acquaintance. Similarly, I'm sure many men could spot the dangerous men Dr. Grande talks about, but women are attracted to, for whatever reason. It's important to listen to our friends, who have our best interests at heart.

@blitzphantom9488

2 жыл бұрын

You think men aren’t attracted to psychos? You don’t know men. Lol

@floraposteschild4184

2 жыл бұрын

@@blitzphantom9488 Yeah I'm talking about listening to our friends and family when we are attracted to crazy, hon.

@blitzphantom9488

2 жыл бұрын

@@floraposteschild4184 oh my bad.

@floraposteschild4184

2 жыл бұрын

@@blitzphantom9488 Thank you.

@blitzphantom9488

2 жыл бұрын

@@floraposteschild4184 welcome. Some of us are still civilized. Lol

Hello Dr G👋Found you here & subscribed! Interesting discussion & so true. Travis was not liked & abusive & you tell the whole truth. His roommates were sketchy & I feel were involved...more to this case than we know. Listen to the 911 call...very weird. If she was so intelligent why leave camera in wash? I think her gratitude list could be "shallow" as when folks are real depressed or have a very low self esteem, difficult to find things to be thankful for, so they are told find even the smallest things...just a thought. Like this format too😊💚💚

@janet5846

2 жыл бұрын

Travis was not abusive.. Ever, and I don't think they ever said anything like that.. And being clever doesn't mean you don't make mistakes.. Think you need to watch and listen to it carefully again

Love this content❤️Will you please do the Madeleine McCann case some time🙏

How did I not know about this channel?!

Astute observation by Jeff on Jodi’s tragic, tumultuous involvement with Travis: “She’s drawn right back into what feeds her.” Savage image.

Excellent topic and so very true. Silence can be powerful - maybe those Trappist monks had the right idea. Thanks for your thoughts!

Hmmm I don't believe Arias is a nice person. I think she's acting at being a nice person and as was mentioned, image and how she is perceived is so important to her. She wants to be liked but appears to be very unlikeable. I wonder if the belief that she is nice comes down to whether you're a man or woman as I'm not sure women would be so easily manipulated or taken in by her.

@mispelling

2 жыл бұрын

There’s no doubt her looks plays a part in seemingly platonic men ‘liking her’. And obviously for straight women that wouldn’t be a factor.

The legal insurances I investigated didn’t provide representation- just referrals for a lawyer you do have to pay for. Scam a mundo

Regarding the prominence of LDS people in crime reporting, I would venture to say that their unusual belief system makes the murder stories involving them sensational & therefore interesting and newsworthy. I seriously doubt that they (LDS folks) are more likely to commit serious crimes than people of other belief systems.