I remember when this happened. On Racehub they played Jimmie's in car camera and you could hear JPM get on the gas first then Jimmy then hear Jimmy lift. JPM spun the tires. Jimmy asked NASCAR to check the telemetry but they didn't

Johnson got screwed on this.

An inside look at the Jimmie Johnson restart penalty from his perspective (with driver audio).

@JobSalazar

11 жыл бұрын

That was a F@*ing Bad call Jimmie...sorry Dude!

@jeremynewman9544

11 жыл бұрын

Sounded like the spotter called it right... Told him to give the spot back.

@joshuasuddethjs

11 жыл бұрын

I don't like jimmy, but thAt was a bullshit call

@DannyCole

11 жыл бұрын

There were two (2) bad calls there; both by Jimmie: 1. Restarting before the restart line ahead of Juan. 2. Not giving the spot back on the first lap when he had the chance. That's all on Jimmie and no one else. Juan just out-smarted him.

@JobSalazar

11 жыл бұрын

I think Montoya spine out the tires, shouldn't be Jimmie's fault, anyway was a Good finish...Good for Tony...

I've been Jimmie Johnson fan since i started watching in 2004 and i always laugh at people who hate on Jimmie cause at the end when it's all said and done Jimmie Johnson will we be one of the top 3 drives to contend for the championship. #GO48

THAT was some restraint. Jimmie keeps a cool head!

I hate how he got penalized, but a few months later at richmond, carl edwards done the same thing and dosen't get penalized. that's some bullshit right there.

@MichelleMC2007

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah and then people whine and cry that Jimmie supposedly wants NASCAR to treat him different and that NASCAR lets him get away with things. No they don't, and it seems this year that they're trying to keep him from being a 7x champion. What's up with that!

@mattcampbell912

7 жыл бұрын

GTP_Dylan_GTP Jimmie's better than Dirt Busch

@HaloSprintRacing

6 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Steiner Kurt Busch sucks Jimmie has 7 you're getting nowhere with your argument

@kadens

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, look you love Kyle Busch that’s why!

@CutterGuard

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichelleMC2007 they stole Carl edwards championship due to the most dumb debris penalty ever. They wanted him to have it.

He jumped the restart and you can hear clearly that he didn't really try to give it back.

I see JPM speed up a little bit and then slow down right before the restart line..

im just surprised they actually called him on it rather than looking the other way like always

Why is KZread proposing this as a "related video" when I was watching a Duke Nukem video?

@Gullett38

9 жыл бұрын

Cuase they are both shit lol. Thats a joke people. Just Johnson is shit. Duke is cool

@jamesyearty7083

6 жыл бұрын

DevilMaster haven't heard that name in a few decades lol Got me feeling the need to drive into Redlight distract and slapping some tails

Penalty or not, to me what really shines out from this was how Jimmie handled it calmly and professionally, both in car and on camera. Say what you like, but he was a class act throughout the whole thing.

Not to mention, Johnson was at least a bumper ahead of Montoya the whole way from the start of the restart box, to when he had to go on pit road. That's by far jumping the restart.

Looked like a legit call to me, Johnson was past him before the start/finish....

@kennypatterson9110

3 жыл бұрын

Because its not the start finish line, look at the video and you will see the 2 lines on the inside of the wall that is the restart lines. He took off when he got to them. Nascar made another bad call to finish the race they way they want to again..

@bigredhippie397

Жыл бұрын

@@kennypatterson9110 you couldnt beat the leader to the line the restart zone doesnt matter

@AAA310

Жыл бұрын

@@bigredhippie397 yes you can. The restart line exists for a reason

its a race car that turns 9000 RPM. 1/4 throttle is still turning over 2000 RPM.

I met Kurt... He is REALLY nice.

I was at this race sitting in turn 3, great race and finish

let me you in a little secret, they all speed on pit road, that is why they are always talking about timing lines, and when they move the timing lines so many people get busted. Even when the Tack does turn red it just means its over the set speed, Green has 5 dots and when the 5th dot is on, any more and the tack turns red.

I think the issue was that Jimmie was the only driver who got a huge jump, hard to claim loss of traction that way even if it may be true.

A rules a rule, you have to let him pass you back. It might not be the best rule but Johnson still has to follow it. So it was the right call.

He doesnt have to go right away. The leader gets to choose where to go, anywhere between the lines.

ah, Clint Bowyer, (look at other camera angles this one you cant tell) then he checked up so hard that it almost wrecked Brad Keselowski and Jeff Gordon. Tony Stewart was in the back on Montoya (physically pushing) all the way into turn 1. Furthermore Clint Bowyer had gotten back by Montoya by turn 2. TBH the only reason Montoya was going anywhere was because Tony Stewart was pushing him.

Technically, he is the leader and can do whatever he wants at that stage in the restart, it is called strategy. I'm sorry that people have other ways of winning besides cheating.. Not a montoya fan but have to give him props for that.

It's funny because if Jimmie just gave the spot back, he was in a league of his own, he would have won the race anyway.

Iif you listen to the engine, he was still accelerating the length of the front straight, not letting off the gas till into corner one. He may not be at full throttle, but he was still speeding up. NASCAR has telemetry in the cars that show throttle, brake, rpm, speed and gear selection. Why not just view that data to see throttle position? The sound of his engine down the back straight sounded just like it did down the front straight as well. He even upshifted twice after taking the green.

1st place is in charge of the restart. if he spun the tires the other cars would had piled into each other and he would had been passed by many. not just the next inside car. rules are rules and 48 team broke the rules and finally got punished for it.

It's a shame I missed this.

I can't believe it took me this long to realize how drivers know who the black flag is for.

its not that it doesn't apply, it that there are exceptions to that rule, for example if the leader spins his tires really badly on the restart. Montoya was also in third place going into turn 2. Do you know what would happen if Jimmie just slammed on this brakes or slowed down enough to let Montoya past by the time they got to turn 1, he would be a rolling road block.

they did, Stewart was pushing Montoya into turn 1 which is the only reason Montoya was going anywhere and they didn't stack up worse then what they did. Also look at other camera angles where Clint Bowyer checked up so hard that it almost took out Brad Keselowski and Jeff Gordon.

They could've. Without an issue. Bowyer even said in his post-race interview that he had just enough time to "slam on his brakes." It's pretty obvious to tell how much he tried to slow the field down and then, he spun his tires when the RPM's jumped from how low he had them bringing the field down. Shows the race One Pablo is by refusing to go back by Jimmie. Knew there was no other way he would stay ahead of him, guess he played it right, just glad he still got his ass handed to him by Tony

ok lets just say he did. The rule still says give the position back. Not let him catch the back of your car and go. Says give it back. How can 48 fans say that rule doesn't apply to them? Just glad to see Nascar finally in force the rules on the 48 car.

The leader determines the start and Johnson took off first even though he wasn't the leader. NASCAR made the right call whether butthurt people think it's wrong or not.

The problem is restarts are like follow the leader. The first place car can go fast or slow and that's how everyone follows. When Jimmie Johnson restarts first he goes fast. Montoya does it a little bit slower. Johnson forgot he was the leader so it messes his chances of winning

there is more than 1 option on when to restart, Jimmie went with the restart line. nascar should make only 1 option.

Jimmie is still the best driver nascar has ever seen!!!

@bubbawallace23fan86

3 жыл бұрын

Petty?????

@matthewsytchannel7573

3 жыл бұрын

@@bubbawallace23fan86 He's good too but JIMMAY

@nickfiore48

3 жыл бұрын

@@bubbawallace23fan86 back in those days the cars weren’t anywhere close to being as equal as they were during Jimmie’s era

They'd never do this to Jr., though. That's their REAL baby.

Why would he upshift twice if he was "feathering" the throttle? Feathering means trying to maintain a speed, rpm is definitely increasing, and increasing enough to require an upshift. The sound of the engine accelerating is near identical to the sound going down the backstretch as well. As for Johnson saying he let up after start line but Montoya would not pass him, it is odd that no one else could manage to pass him either.

HE WAS IN THE RESTART BOX AND TECHNICALLY THE LEADER EITHER GOES IN THE RESTART BOX OR CHECKS UP SO THE GUY IN SECOND CAN GO

bad restart, happens. I have seen 5 red flags in 5 laps involving the 1st place car in 2 of them. No real excuses it just happens.

Furthermore if you are implying that he "blocked" like Kyle Petty said, Kyle Petty admitted he was wrong, and there had been no contact, during the replay.

I see why it was a violation now, Jimmie Johnson knew damn well he jumped the restart and claimed Montoya "spun the tires", Johnson had an entire lap to give the spot back to Montoya, but instead decided to try to run away.

Finally, someone who's actually making sense!

Jimmie says he backed off the whole straightaway. That's a big BS. Jimmie and Chad have gotten away with this sort if crap from years. Well done NASCAR for finally penalising them.

Why doesn't NASCAR just spot him a lap ahead of the rest of the field and be done with it? No wonder the crowds at the events are thining. There is no more parody in the division, it's either Jimmie Johnson or Kyle Busch that they talk about. Hello, there are 41 other drivers and teams in the race. Damn I miss the #3.

@blakelazeski5974

3 жыл бұрын

*parity

Half throttle down the whole front stretch? Yeah, right, whatever. He didn't let up at all to try and give the spot back, he gunned it and took off.

spotter told him to give the spot back and he didn't, then Chad said otherwise

They did pile into eachother. The only reason Montoya wasn't in 5th place in turn 1 was because Bowyer checked up so.hard that it almost caused a huge wreck. Also think about it, the radio communication clearly shows they felt they were faster, they had no reason to cheat, why would they say "we are faster" then cheat anyways. I don't care if it had been Kyle Busch being penalized, or any driver for that matter, the evidence show Montoya was having a problem and it was a bad call

in my eyes it look like montoya couldnt get pass jimmie in time before the restart.

no I can hear. and you can hear him lift going to turn one and that is it. Either way the rule still says must give the position back not let them get close then hammer on it. Let them back in front is the rule. WHy don't 48 fans understand that?

I'll give it to Jimmy, even though he thought he was in the right (he was not), he didn't pitch a fit and yell obscenities on the radio. I guarantee that would not had been the case with many other drivers. Not a Johnson fan (I don't dislike him, just not a fan), but I'll give him credit for that.

you can hear him playing with the throttle on the restart too juan just didn't go..

The call had nothing to do with whether or not JJ let off the gas lol. He was not the leader, therefore was not his restart to govern. He simply went to early, no different than a runner in a 100 meter dash having a false start. He jumped early, giving the spot back is not relevant to the issue.

sounded like he was going a little more than 1/4 throttle down the whole straightaway

man what a tough call. just the wrong spot at the wrong time for jimmie. i do agree that Montoya blew that restart

I've always heard the rule was on starts and restarts, the leader must take the green first, the second place driver has to wait for the leader to go. montoya being the leader, spun tires or not, did not take the green (cross the line) first, Johnson did. and there lies the penalty. I know it's hard to give the position back in Johnsons case, but a penalty is a penalty is a penalty..

Problem is, I don't think Montoya spun his tires, I think he just brought everybody to the restart really slow. Then when he got on the gas, THEN he spun his tires.

NASCAR made the right call, its so simple, you beat the leader to the line and don't give the spot back, your gonna get a penatly. I don't care if Juan couldn't catch back up by the end of the front stetch, if he doesn't give it back its a penalty.

darn those grandstands were empty. Was this on rain delay or anything?

Because they probably thought Jimmie would slow down to give Montoya the spot back and if they thought they would make a huge wreck if JJ slowed down to do it.

OMG I was there!

Still ended up being a 7 time champ 🤣

well, this does show that Jimmie was part throttle down the whole fronstretch...

No, Jimmie's just not used to being #2 on the front row.

they keep saying JPM spun his tires but the entire field would of stacked up if that was true, jimmie jumped the gun and shot ahead then would not give it back thinking they'll let him slide. plain and simple

How can you say that...clearly JJ was ahead of JPM before they even got to the end of the restart box... the rule is clear for every driver...you can pass the leader if the leader does not get going AFTER the restart box...JJ was about 3 feet ahead of JPM before that...therefore... PENALTY

He sounded so upset

It is clear enough- if you beat the leader to the line, you get a penalty

Nascar can avoid that by stopping the double file restarts. Single file restarts leave no doubt. Personally, I think Montoya did it on purpose trying to set Johnson up.

That was a dark day for NASCAR. Luckily he got the job done in the end.

Damn good call by NASCAR. He had every opportunity to give the spot back to Montoya, and he never did.

but jpm just legally f-d him. cant blame him but it does suck no matter who he did it to.

Haha someone in the comments wrote "Juan" wrong!!

The leader has the whole restart box to go the only way jimmie would be able to beat him to the finish line is if juan didn't go at the second restart line which he did. Jimmie went at the first resart line as if he was the leader which he wasn't. Juan controls the resart.

IDK. Why's the sky blue and not purple? Just some things you can't say for sure. Only person who truly knows is Juan Montoya.

If Montoya was laying back why didnt anybody pass him? JJ got a huge jump and didnt give it back.

Montoya just isn't in the lead enough to know how to restart a race correctly

No it's not clear because there's too much grey area with the restart area being a box and not just a single line. NASCAR needs to paint a line on the track and say, "When you get to this line the green flag drops and you go, if you're the leader and you spin the tires or get some other form of bad restart, oh well".

Jimmy got screwed on that one If you look at the tape real close you can see where montoya back end got jacked up in the air he definately didn't go right away

Don't know enough about the restart rules to argue it, but it sounds like they were expecting Montoya to get called for dogging it. Just a couple of requests to review it by Johnson, though, I myself would have climbed the tower and started sniping people LOL

NASCAR penalizing Jimmie Johnson for that restart was a horrible call. Just because Montoya couldn't get going shouldn't mean that Jimmie Johnson should have to let off the throttle to allow Montoya to get traction. Do you think the pack of cars behind them would've let off the trottle if Johnson would have done that? There's an easy way to get hit from behind and put into the wall during the restart. NASCAR needs to think these things through.

Gimme a break. Jimmy got caught! He never let up. He took off before the leader. If Juan blew the start Clint Boyer would have passed also.

bringing up their constancy. Many drivers, including Jimmie, have beaten the leader to the line and gotten away with it before because the leader couldn't get going. and yes I know, that was worse then a lot of others.

The rules clear enough, not montoya's fault. hes the leader he decides how the feild follows.

Well even if he did the rule clearly states must give the position back. No matter what. Not let him catch up and go again. So either way 48 was in wrong no matter what. But he lifted for a split second for turn one and went on. Just proud nascar got their baby boy. But they made it up to him in Pocono.

jimmie was gunning it, never let off. but montoya did look stale on the restart. tough call, you live and learn

Montoya will never admit to this if he did indeed do what I think he did, but he knew he had to "get rid" of Johnson and the only way to do it was to make it look like Johnson really jumped the start. Well played Juan, well played. You still lost the race though lol.

I saw second place beat the leader to the line 2 or 3 times in the Nationwide race this weekend, yet they did nothing... it was only by a couple of inches.

Last years Chase race at Texas Motor Speedway.

notice chad says "we dont have to beat him too bad" meaning theyre stronger than what they show & they dont want to show their hand?

His own crew cheif told him to stay back and he still didn't listen and yet he trys to say he tried his hardest

The rule is completely clear. You can't pass the leader at the line.

You mean JJ? haha, so JJ has done this before and has gotten away with it, so it's good that NASCAR is finally able to enforce their rules to Jimmie Johnson.

If he spun his tires... why was nobody else able to pass him on the inside lane?

so lets hear the excuse for this last weekend when he spun his car all on his own on the restart?

Montoya just did what every other team does. He played the system perfectly. Kudos to him. Chad was telling Jimmie to slow and let Montoya by. He had plenty of chances to do what he had to do to avoid the penalty.

I guess it's not Johnson's fault he didn't get near the equipment and chassis that Jimmie Johnson has had for all of his career. Give an example in the recent years where a driver in 2nd has gotten away with that.

You could see that Montoya wouldn't run hard to catch him.

we need to watch montoyas communication we have to look at both sides.

yes you can they changed the rules the very next week

5 times with an asterisk. He's only a 2 time champion under the old point format. Still a champion though.

@wxcellstormchasing7619

Жыл бұрын

His trophy's don't have asterisks.