I feel like I've never heard JR speak about Macho ever. Makes sense now

"Macho Man" Randy Savage didn't do lines of cocaine. Cocaine did lines of "Macho Man" Randy Savage.

@WidSilson

6 ай бұрын

Oooooh yeaaaaaah!!

@Fuzzie_Dunlop968

6 ай бұрын

@@WidSilson Snap into some Sniff, Jim!

@cutekanjii

6 ай бұрын

Was ecstacy he was into

@Spooky_515

6 ай бұрын

Randy did coke!?! 😱

@russblack443

6 ай бұрын

​@@Spooky_515look up Teddy longs story about taking Randy and Dick Slater to get some weed in Atlanta. The guys got in the Van and said he had coke too and pulled out a big bag and Slater and Savage choked him out and stole his money and drugs.

From a fan perspective SAVAGE is one of the greatest of all time!

@spiritchild9101

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, Hogan, Macho, Flair, and Piper are the big four.

@wizzerwiser2056

6 ай бұрын

@@spiritchild9101 I wouldn't put Flair on that list. Andre over all of them for sure.

@avalond1193

5 ай бұрын

​@@wizzerwiser2056 flair deserves that spot

@wizzerwiser2056

5 ай бұрын

@@avalond1193 no he doesn't. he wasn't a draw like the rest of them.

@Doniedaff

5 ай бұрын

As a wrestler yes. Piece of shit human being though.

Macho man...was the cream of the crop😂

@erikrasmussen7953

6 ай бұрын

And as we all know, the cream rises to the top.

@Wwesvr11bestprojects

6 ай бұрын

Ooooh yeah. The macho man nigga

@garystephenson9412

6 ай бұрын

Better than the best

@zlinedavid

6 ай бұрын

On balance, off balance doesn’t matter, I’m better than you are

@curthennig9448

6 ай бұрын

@@erikrasmussen7953 That's what Pat Patterson believed.

A bit of a bully says the guy who helped bury Bart Gunn for smacking around his precious Dr Death

@Fuzzie_Dunlop968

6 ай бұрын

Sassafras.

@lukashood25

6 ай бұрын

Jim is such a fake, people feel bad for him due to his disability but he’s always been a jerkoff.

@nicholashurst780

6 ай бұрын

Even aside from that, we are talking about the guy who changed and ending to put Diamond Dallas Page over and make him a giant star (Randy Savage chose to lose to DDP in their feud, DDP showed up to the arena expecting to lose). A toxic husband? Yes Randy was. A bully? Really? Compared to who? Like even the nicest guy in the WWE (Taker/Mark) has told stories of him doing shit (like holding wrestlers' court) that's such intense bullying it is literally against federal labor law while Savage was always elevating other performers and he's the bully? Ross, Vince, everyone in charge have loved despicable pieces of shit who did literal felony assault and they call it "ribbing" while not promoting their victims on TV (which might justify it as initiation hazing) but Savage was the bully. Jim Ross put over JBL and Sparkplug Holly and wants to claim anyone ever in history was a bully but not them? Honestly, I'm not even offended by Oklahoma anymore because Jim Ross does not deserve to be treated better than he treats others.

@jackhughes7637

6 ай бұрын

​@@nicholashurst780 You've completely misunderstood the original comment

@squarepickle

6 ай бұрын

​@@nicholashurst780 Savage may have been a "toxic" husband, but at least he was protective. Elizabeth didn't overdose with Randy.

The wrestlers we're still fascinated by are hard to pin down. They weren't normal people doing a job the way we'd do it. They are mysteries, defiant mysteries, and we like it that way.

@drjay73

5 ай бұрын

I agree 100%

@shadowbear66

4 ай бұрын

How the hell do you know what I like speak for yourself

@tylermcnally8232

3 ай бұрын

Nope.

I didn't remember Jim Ross being in the WWF for that long when Randy Savage was there. Savage's big days in the WWF were in the mid to late 80s. By the time Ross got to the WWF in about 1993, Savage was almost done there and ready to head to WCW.

@nobodyfamousX

6 ай бұрын

He might have been rolling around backstage before he got high enough on the totem pole to be on TV for people to know who he was. Or if he was working for a different promotion he could have run into Savage another way. I feel like if you work in an industry like that you just end up running into other people in your business

@fightsports66

6 ай бұрын

There were points where JR was not on the air but running talent relations in WWF and there were points when JR was in WCW where he was not on the air but he was on the booking committee.

@JPFrancois75

5 ай бұрын

They did WMIX together, and Savage left in beginning of 94, I believe. My timeline could be off a little.

@JPFrancois75

5 ай бұрын

@@fightsports66I don’t think JR was talent relations in 93-94, and Savage wasn’t in WCW when JR was there.

@albertross2456

4 ай бұрын

Yeah he ended up in WCW, it's not like that was a forgone conclusion at that time. He would've stayed in WWF if he was getting the opportunity and the money they were making in WCW I'm sure.

It's funny (not really) how it's become cool to slight Macho Man due to his 'insecurity' but Steve Austin pleads no contest to domestic violence and it's basically been forgotten. This isn't me hatin' because I like both guys but it seems like because Macho died, he can't redeem himself in many of these people's eyes because all I hear these days are his flaws.

@KVdaKrook44

5 ай бұрын

What?

@kidneystonermusic

5 ай бұрын

​@@KVdaKrook44😆

@dree35

5 ай бұрын

what do you guys not get? Brain's must not be developed enough... He's saying that people take shots at macho man & its absolutely corny because he isn't here to defend hisself/show people that he changed. Multiple wrestlers (Shawn HBK Michaels, Steve STONE COLD Austin, Jake THE SNAKE Roberts, & ETC.) have showed themselves to change with time (with time, wisdom comes along.) @@kidneystonermusic

@dree35

5 ай бұрын

My reponse towards @kidneystonemusic is also for you@@KVdaKrook44

@KVdaKrook44

5 ай бұрын

@@kidneystonermusic 🤣🤘🏿

I'll never forget when Jim Ross got p***** off. Because Bart Gunn beat the hell out of one of the toughest guys ever doctor death.

@theshipoffools

4 ай бұрын

Way to go Vince Russo...what a horrible idea that whole thing was.

@MattAlbie

4 ай бұрын

Clearly not THAT tough

@buckster2575

3 ай бұрын

It was more luck than anything.

@filmgeekstudios4393

3 ай бұрын

How do you know he was pissed?

@gst013

3 ай бұрын

He definitely wasn't one of the "toughest guys ever" 😅

Like him or not; Macho Man Randy Savage was ONE OF A KIND! UUUUUUUUUUUUUH YEEEEEEEAAAAH!!!! 💪😯💪

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

Everyone is one-of-a-kind. Even a twin...

@user-lt1xf9xc8w

6 ай бұрын

@@jaythor70 Yes, even dumb people. 😅😂

@MikeSharon-ht2ce

6 ай бұрын

"OHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH"

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lt1xf9xc8w That's why I'm here, to educate you, so you won't be dumb.

@rambidee4184

3 ай бұрын

Love this comment

He admitted in the past he tried to sink Jesse Ventura aswell by not reacting to his banter

@albertross2456

6 ай бұрын

Jr is great, but I sense he has a hateful or selfish streak behind the scenes as he plays the good fair guy

@onewarriornation602

6 ай бұрын

​@@albertross2456He is a two faced asskissing backstabber.

@steve9473

6 ай бұрын

@@albertross2456 He is bitter. Savage never liked him either, so the feeling was mutual. He was one of the people who shot down the idea of having one more match with Hogan.

@billybob5337

6 ай бұрын

@@steve9473 you mean one more match between Savage and Hogan?

@rickstalentedtongue910

6 ай бұрын

Yes, Ross is a habitual liar, this is the third time from three different wrestlers where he is accused of the same thing, but just deflects saying it is the other guys problem. The truth seems to be that Ross was very insecure about his job security and would sabotage a risk to his career.

if savage returned with the nwo in 2002.. it couldve been amazing.

@michaelmercury1297

6 ай бұрын

Randy Savage vs Stone Cold may have been great.

@alexandru5369

6 ай бұрын

It would've been cool but he was done wrestling, in ring wise, by 2000 his knee's were having issues and he already had bad hips from doing the elbow drop. He was done

@71956AV

6 ай бұрын

Would have been better if he returned to WWE in 2000 or 2001.

@Fred63205

6 ай бұрын

Savage could have been the mouthpiece at least for the nWo. They could have found something else for hbk

@BigBadJerryRogers

6 ай бұрын

They should have done that because he was in Spiderman and that was huge. Could have capitalized on it

They call Randy paranoid about Miss Elizabeth yet she died young of a drug overdose after she left him… Sounds more like a man who knew what was up and was trying to stop it

@McFarlaneDragonClan

6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@six6thdisciple

6 ай бұрын

FRFR

@truthsocialmedia

6 ай бұрын

Yep

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

Macho knew Vince liked defeating on women. That's why he locked Elizabeth in a dressing room.

@lancethefilmguy9392

3 ай бұрын

​@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234That is still a bad look on Randy

Savage's match with Ricky Steamboat at Wrestlemania was one of the greatest matches you will ever see

@ItsJustUsEnt

6 ай бұрын

I think Him vs Warrior @ Mania was one of his Best Matches.

@Director2024

6 ай бұрын

Savage was the first Mr. Wrestlemania. Thats why he is 1 and HBK 1a in my book.

@albertross2456

4 ай бұрын

Hell yeah

@jonsprong1842

4 ай бұрын

That was Wrestlemania 3, but I completely concur. He was tremendous.

@jamesoshea494

4 ай бұрын

No. It was the greatest match. Not one of the greatest, but the greatest. The back and forth pinning combos, the unexpected maneuvers. Just incredible. The other 2 intercontinental title matches with perfect and hart and Ramon and Michaels were runner ups.

JR had a long "office" career and this is one of his big failures, big blind spots.

The irony of JR calling someone a "bully." Maybe Macho man saw through JRs b.s. JR plays favorites and he's quite the bully himself ala when Bart Gunn knocked out his boy Dr. Death. Obviously JR was happy about it and WWE even did a segment on this. I'm sure JR was responsible for Bart Gunn having to fight Butterbean which made no sense. I'm sure if Dr. Death won he wouldn't have had to fight Butterbean. It made no sense to kill off Barts momentum....unless JR had anything to do with it or as Macho man said "burying" him for winning the tournament.

@BrandonHeat243

2 ай бұрын

JR's not a pdfile though so JR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macho.

Vince hated that his company's profitability depended on these wrestlers and their reputations. Vince wanted fans to come to a WWF/WWE sports entertainment event not a Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, or Randy Savage wrestling match. It took him decades but he finally achieved what he wanted. The only people still watching the show or going to WWE events are WWE sports entertainment fans. And nobody knows or cares who is actually wrestling that night. They are all interchangable and disposable. Just draw 8 names out of the hat and do some silly 8-man circle jerk to start the show. Orange Julius can't make it? Replace him with Zane Zodiac and nobody watching will care or even know the difference. It's SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT... not wrestling. And nobody is watching anyway.

@billybob5337

6 ай бұрын

thats why most of the posters starting featuring almost the whole roster, and why we now have THREE main events at Wrestlemania

@slabbusterrtr7690

5 ай бұрын

Independent by u cant go work for somebody else yeah that's NOT independent he did that so he didn't have to give them insurance or pension

@eddiemoney1093

2 ай бұрын

The best mania in 20+ years happening yesterday while JRs current employer is going on tv whining why don't people like me made this comment age pretty poorly.

@StarCadet

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, I have felt like that for at least the last 10 years. WWE isn't wrestling, it is personalities. People come to see their favorite Instagram stars. WWE could cut out the wrestling all together and no one would care.

“He was a bully” Now listen to why Bill Watts gets a bad rap.

@jacksmith-mu3ee

6 ай бұрын

I won't call savage a Bully he was a perfectionist .

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

@@jacksmith-mu3ee Perfectionist is when you want to be perfect. Bully is when you try to make others conform to your idea of perfect. That was Randy.

@ringspan2731

6 ай бұрын

Bill Watts was a promoter who had certain expectations and was a man's man. Today's pantywaist generation wouldn't understand that.

@ringspan2731

6 ай бұрын

@@jacksmith-mu3ee AMEN! Randy would puke looking at today's willy nilly pro wrestling landscape.

@trevorhembrough1290

6 ай бұрын

@@ringspan2731No, he was a Bully. Hush, Child.

He made Warrior look like he can wrestle and I’m a huge UW fan.

@charliebrownie4158

4 ай бұрын

Randy's wrestling abilities made so many look like less than amateurs. He forgot more than any wrestlers could remember.

Damn, Ross must really hate him LOL He keeps mentioning his dislike. I think Savage probably didn't respect JR who was from the little leagues when he thrown into commentary with Randy and Bobby Heenan. Ross is known as a grump and Savage is known as a hot head. Makes sense that they didn't like each other. Their personal relationship does influence JR's opinion. JR never mentions Savage as one of the greats and Randy was better than Taker, Austin and HBK.

@sj4632

6 ай бұрын

He was not better than any of those…

@ltopomcfly5583

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, ask any random person walking down the street who isn't a WWE mark. Probably Ric Flair too. The man had what will forever be known as the greatest match of all time. And wrestling will never be as popular as it was then.@@sj4632

@BAztid

6 ай бұрын

@@sj4632 Savage was greater than Taker in terms of both star power and talent. WWE have overhyped Taker due to his strong political standing within the company. Savage wasn't quite as big a star as Austin, although he was a better worker. Savage was a miles bigger star than Michaels (whom WWE have also overhyped), and in the same ballpark as a worker, although I'd say Michaels has more truly great matches.

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

​@@sj4632Better than all 3 combined!

@dannywholuv

5 ай бұрын

​@@sj4632make no mistake, Savage was the GOAT

Sounds like JR is being interviewed by the younger version of himself.

How come JR doesn’t talk about how paranoid Austin bullied Debra??? So much so,the cops were called.

@XTR02

6 ай бұрын

Because, Jim Ross wasn’t married to Debra, nor was he married to Austin. He didn’t live with the married couple. So, what the hell are you expecting him to say? He was a commentator and the head of talent relations- he wasn’t the personal babysitter of their home-life. Use your brain next time.

@Forever_Thatter

6 ай бұрын

because he ain't got enough integrity to do so.

@wizzerwiser2056

6 ай бұрын

He never said anything bad about Macho Man.

@JJA1987

6 ай бұрын

It's none of your business.

@allencollins5666

5 ай бұрын

​@@Forever_ThatterTrue

A bully, that's ridiculous. He had the same attributes that the other guys in his class had. JR couldn't "handle" him and as an HR guy that's literally what your job is

@Stonehorn

6 ай бұрын

You’re an idiot. Theres tons of stories about Randy’s control freak bullshit and getting aggressive in the locker room out of nowhere, especially about liz in the 80’s/90’s. The truth doesn’t hurt.

@spiritchild9101

6 ай бұрын

But, who actually knew him: you or J.R.?

@Tumorcoach

6 ай бұрын

You sound like a sensitive dork for Macho. You knew nothing about the real him stop pretending

@danman1789

6 ай бұрын

@@spiritchild9101 I know, fair point. only going off of what I've read and heard over many years

@Lemont5236

6 ай бұрын

JR wasn’t HR at the time Savage was employed there

Savage had a very similar personality to Austin. Jim makes excuses as long as he personally likes you. I have never heard anyone else call Randy Savage a bully.

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

Then you haven't been listening. He locked Elizabeth in his locker room, and had words with anyone who talked to her. He was liked and disliked, but paranoid and bullying behavior come up in interviews. Most wrestlers don't say it, because he didn't bully them.

@anish3183

6 ай бұрын

Savage was an absolute terrible person to his girlfriends.

@one_with_kevrything9825

6 ай бұрын

Savage was a complicated guy. He definitely did some really questionable things to his girlfriends and talent.

@BlitzkriegBryce

6 ай бұрын

​@@jaythor70 considering how the business was back then/is... I don't blame him.

@fuzzluvver69

6 ай бұрын

​@@jaythor70And yet he has been PROVEN to have been absolutely justified in being paranoid and defensive, as so many wrestlers of that time have told the backstage stories of drugs, alcohol, general debauchery, poor behaviour, harassment, steroids, uppers and downers, and generally lifestyles that resulted in many, many untimely deaths - including, sadly, Elizabeth's once she decided to get herself involved in that very lifestyle in the end. This really isn't even disputable at this point, it's just cold, hard facts.

I think Macho would apologize if he knew this how you felt JR just to bury the hatchet, if he was still here

All this talk about Vince not bringing Randy back. Does anyone think maybe Randy Savage was the one who declined to go back? Near the end of his life he appeared to be done with the wrestling business. Vince obviously made overtures to him starting with releasing the Randy Savage Ultimate Collection DVD in 2009. Randy appeared happy and content in retirement. He had married his high school sweetheart after reconnecting with her after 30 years. According to Lanny, Randy's last years were among his happiest.

@ryankeefe2102

6 ай бұрын

I always thought that he by all accounts saved his money and seemed to be enjoying living out of the public eye and right before his passing it seemed fences were on the mend with the action figures and video games if he hadn't passed I could see him going in the HOF at wm 28 in Mami

@71956AV

6 ай бұрын

@@ryankeefe2102 Many wrestlers say Savage was cheap with his money, so he probably saved up enough money to last him the rest of his life. Savage also probably got a decent payday from the Spiderman movie, and the voice acting roles he had in the 2000s.

Love JR, Love Savage nobody has to pick a side here it's ok if some people didn't get along. Nobody is perfect I don't think any less of either these legends in the business.

@RANDYandJHERI

6 ай бұрын

Best comment.

@Lemont5236

6 ай бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@fightsports66

6 ай бұрын

Well said.

When I saw how Elizabeth died I finally saw why Macho Man was so protective of her some peoole can't make good decisions for themselves

@doddsino

5 ай бұрын

Savage exposed her to that. He didn't "protect her".

@tronsnow4763

5 ай бұрын

Yea I don’t think he was locking her in a room bc of her partying too hard…

@georgefreemon2935

5 ай бұрын

@@doddsinoHow’s that

@_Brennus

5 ай бұрын

She probably did so many drugs because of the trauma of dating a nutcase.

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

When you saw Vince shitting on women you start to understand it more.

JR fellates Bill Watts but Savage was a no-good bully? Sober up, Jim..

@MrVante247

6 ай бұрын

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣🤣🤣

@redactedandredactedaccesor7290

6 ай бұрын

oh he said the thing! @@MrVante247

@ChrisP-in8qr

6 ай бұрын

​@@MrVante247truth hurts

@foreverunsaved6661

4 ай бұрын

Bill Watts had red in his neck, Randy Savage didn't

@lancethefilmguy9392

3 ай бұрын

​@@ChrisP-in8qrNot really 😂

People say Savage was paranoid but what happened to Elizabeth THE MOMENT he left WCW? She got with Lex & began a spiral,being his mistress & drug companion. The Wrestling business was dangerous.

@user-pu9bp7tp9x

2 ай бұрын

yeah, Savage loved her and probably knew she was easily influenced, hence the paranoia

@tjjordan4207

14 күн бұрын

That’s something I noticed as well. He was definitely too controlling and went about it the wrong way but he was right about the professional wrestling being dangerous for people like her who are easy prey. He at the very least was trying to protect her from all that.

Conrad, stop saying "innuendo" 🙏

Why didn't Conrad ask JR point blank why he thought Vince didn't hire Randy Savage back? None of the reasons JR said made sense as Vince as hired back guys who were worker backstage problems for the sake of doing business.

@kazman_6899

6 ай бұрын

Better yet, why doesn't he ask Jim why Dutch said it was the talk of the dressing room that Savage bonked Stephanie!? When I heard that, I couldn't believe my ears. Jim, Bruce, etc. are all lying through their teeth.

@ShadowAngel18606

6 ай бұрын

@@kazman_6899 Quite a few wrestlers think it happened and i wonder to this day why so many marks, but also wrestlers, have such a hard time accepting it. Marks go to all kinds of mental gymnastics to explain the blacklisting because they somehow can't accept it. It's funny. But literally everything points to it. The stories that Stephanie admired Savage and wanted to be like Elizabeth or even replace her so she can be with Savage are very well known. The fact that she was a massive slut (as told by Pat Patterson and others) back then. Combine that with the fact that according to Lenny after the divorce Randy "banged everything that was female and moved", i mean it's quite obvious.

@vasili1207

6 ай бұрын

because he gave steph the D

@curthennig9448

6 ай бұрын

@@kazman_6899 Stephanie really snapped into it?

Randy Savage was the greatest the end

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

In your opinion.

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

It's generally understood to be fact ​@@jaythor70

@jaythor70

4 ай бұрын

@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 it's not fact, because it's subjective. Even if it's a popular opinion, it's still an opinion.

The guy is still on the wrappers of slim Jim’s to this day. That’s how good the guy was

Machos point about being buried for doing promos for live events he wasn’t booked for was in regards to people expecting him and then being upset when he wasn’t there.

savage wasn't a bully. insecure or paranoid maybe but not a damn bully. he was a good dude.

@squarepickle

6 ай бұрын

I've never heard anyone call Savage a bully. Almost everyone you hear from says they loved him.

@MrVante247

6 ай бұрын

Smaaaart marrrrksss 😂

Im sure randy didnt like jr either

SAVAGE AUSTIN PROMO would've been EPIC.

Macho was my guy….. oooooooh yeah.

I love macho man! My favorite wrestler of all time, wish I could have met him!

It’s bout to be a swerve and he’s gonna say he loved him 😂 I stand corrected

well there you go folks... apparently we can all thank good old JR for Macho not being in the WWE after WCW was bought.

@MrVante247

6 ай бұрын

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣

@ShadowAngel18606

6 ай бұрын

No, it really was because in late 1997 Vince McMahon blacklisted him from the WWE

@cantgetright742

6 ай бұрын

He never would have went back. He left because they was putting him on announcing because of age when he wanted to go out and do his thing.

@ShadowAngel18606

6 ай бұрын

@@cantgetright742 Vince actually wanted to bring him back as active wrestler in early 1997 when he learned that his WCW contract was running out. Within 6 months, McMahon's oppinion changed from "I want him" to "I never want to do any business with this person ever again" (and yes, according to multiple employees, he couldn't even say his name)

@allencollins5666

5 ай бұрын

​@@ShadowAngel18606Vince Wanted To Bring Macho Back After He Proved Vince Wrong About Being Too Old To Continue Wrestle When WCW Were Dominating The WWE. Vince Regretted Doing Huckster And Nacho Man Skits. Savage Was Not Going Back. HOGAN Either.

I'm only here to watch JR burn heaters on the pod.

He has a right to hate anyone as we all do

@jimmyjames6882

6 ай бұрын

I hate everybody equally and Jr has the same right.

@dominicrigsby8547

6 ай бұрын

​@@jimmyjames6882sounds like a lonely existence

@jimmyjames6882

6 ай бұрын

@@dominicrigsby8547 well i used a little bit of sarcasm but not much lol

@Lemont5236

6 ай бұрын

He should get over it. The man has been dead for 12 years, and he didn’t have to deal with him from 94’ until he passed.

@justinyant1527

6 ай бұрын

​​@@Lemont5236Get over what? He didn't like the guy, just because he is dead doesn't mean shit and it definitely doesn't make someone more likeable. Edit: I get it, he should like him more because he is worm food..I feel ya I like people more who i dislike when they are dead before me.

You guys could have brought him in during 2001-2002, he just worked a match the year before on thunder, he was able to work a match, he just worked a different style after his ‘98 injury.

@MrVante247

6 ай бұрын

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣

@GameTime-yj6qv

6 ай бұрын

And he looked amazing during that time.

There are a lot of guys who get to a certain level and all seem to think there is a conspiracy by the company to cut their legs out from under them. You see it from Macho Man, Hulk, Stone Cold, etc. I have a hard time believing that all these guys are wrong.

@mettinkaytaz6106

6 ай бұрын

Well said 👌, given the nature of the Shark Tank environment you'd think there is some validity to what these guys are thinking

@garyv2498

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, there's probably something too it. Company doesn't want a guy to become a bigger star than the company. They don't want to have to pay a guy what he would be worth. They don't want to deal with a guy having that much leverage over the company.

@ImmortanDan

6 ай бұрын

Well, when you reach top guy status (and I don't mean just main event, I mean natural, over, recognized top-level) your priorities and the company's priorities no longer align. You want to build your brand and keep the top spot for as long as possible; the promotion's main goal though is to get the rest of the talent over using your fame, and making sure your fans stay even after you leave. Somebody like Stone Cold especially would have felt McMahon trying to anchor his success to the company because his last star on that level was Hogan - and Hogan was a dude who just left and initiated perhaps the hardest time in the company's history.

@Director2024

6 ай бұрын

They aren’t. The mind of a businessman is everyone is replaceable.

@spiritchild9101

6 ай бұрын

Some guys just aren’t ready to pass on the torch to the next generation.

I don't understand how you can say that Jim Ross is "salty", and "must really hate macho man", when he gave him his praise as a wrestler; he just didn't get along with the man, which is a normal part of life. Just because a person doesn't get along with your favorite wrestler, they are labeled a "hater"

@lancethefilmguy9392

3 ай бұрын

It's because Smarks only do what the Internet tells him to do

JR with the best backdrop of all time for a live feed. The fartsack 😂😂

Savage was probably one of the sweetest dudes outside of the ring back then. But at work, wrestling, the guy didn’t F around and say what you will he probably had to have the attitude he had, otherwise - mid card.

'Macho Man' Randy Savage was an alpha and is one of those who owns a permanent spot on pro wrestling's Mount Rushmore, like him or not. Randy didn't suffer fools lightly and owned every room he walked into. Wrestling needs more guys like Savage nowadays; larger-than-life, balls bigger than the average man's, and looked, acted and LIVED the part! A good portion of today's so-called talents being passed off as pro wrestling "stars" aren't fit to lace Randy's boots or even wash his car. That's just the truth!

@tellumyort

6 ай бұрын

Wrestling needs more real men like Lou Thesz, not 80s coke heads. 😈

@ringspan2731

6 ай бұрын

@@tellumyort Turn in your fan card, you ignoramus.

@ucouco78

6 ай бұрын

Macho man was not an "alpha" way too insecure.

@redrick8900

6 ай бұрын

Not even top 4 of the 80's. He's only famous becuase he's the most mockable wrestler in history.

@redrick8900

6 ай бұрын

@@ucouco78 "Did you look at my wife?" "Did you look at my wife?" "Did any of you look at my wife?"

Bus riders should never judge bus drivers

Randy was an excellent example of a wrestler who could make any promo work and get over with the fans. He had raw talent and passion. It’s a shame he never was wwe champion(wwf back then).

I love Macho Man, but the stories I hear about him sometimes make him truly come off like an over-paranoid person. Again I think it's important to know that your heroes can't always be perfect and that should go for everyone, even my personal favs in Triple H and Austin can have moments that make me think they were in the wrong.

@fuzzluvver69

6 ай бұрын

No. Randy WAS paranoid, but regardless what anyone thinks about that, he definitely wasn't OVERLY paranoid, as he has subsequently been proved absolutely right to have been paranoid with all of the stories about backstage behaviour, behaviour in hotels and behind the scenes, drugs, over the top ribs, bullying etc. Randy was 100% right to be concerned, and it's really not even a disputable issue at this point.

@Maxx-jl1ml

6 ай бұрын

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of reality. We live in a biosphere, living with cognitive dissonance doesn't make you immune to somebody breaking into your house or assaulting you randomly on the street. Paranoia is not always a bad thing.

@runnersdialzero1244

6 ай бұрын

cocainum

@Appalachianasshole41

6 ай бұрын

Vigilance is often viewed as paranoia when it is something else entirely

@tafua_a

6 ай бұрын

On one hand yeah, on the other hand, when you come from a time period where your contemporaries are Hulk Hogan, Roddy Piper and Jim Duggan, it's kinda justified. "Just because I think everybody's out to get me, it doesn't mean they don't!"

JR is salty. Savage is the man

@Provos7777

4 ай бұрын

Not everyone is going to get along, doesn't make someone " salty "

@Stayinoutoftrouble

Күн бұрын

Never heard Savage was a bully. Honestly I think JR mixes people up.

*This is the very first time I've heard anyone in wrasslin having a personal issue with Macho Man. Everyone, quite literally everyone else I've heard in these interviews and documentaries says that Randy was a great dude. As much as i hate to admit it, JR loses some credibility here.*

@FranTheMan78

5 ай бұрын

Andre didn't like him either.

Man I love listening to stories about the industry and especially in that era. Even better hearing it narrated by JR.

Randy Poffo is the greatest entertainer all time

@curthennig9448

6 ай бұрын

Stephanie would agree!

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

​​@@curthennig9448Vince hated Randy because Randy and Steph wouldn't let him watch. Vince wanted to call the action. "What a manueuver"!

@curthennig9448

5 ай бұрын

@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Seems Vince and Johnny "Ace in the Hole" had all the manuevers.

I dont understand why Vince wouldn't have wanted Randy back (apart from the glaringly obvious rumuor*), even an old-er Randy Savage, with his flamboyance and star power etc was enough to draw Baby Boomer Cash, and that is something I dont believe Vince would've said No to. Now this isnt a stab at good ol' JR, but given his position its easy to think that the "eraser" was used a few times where Randy's name came up where JR is concerned, esp given JR's position as head of Talent relations at the time, I think we just learned why "Macho Man" Randy Savage wasn't bought back into the fold in this video right here

@pugmalley

6 ай бұрын

I was sort of thinking the same thing. JR basically said it that he wasn't gonna bring him back but if Vince went and did it he wasn't gonna stand in the way. But what are the chances that Vince would have asked JR "have you heard anything from Randy?" JR would have said something like "I have not talked to him as of yet"

@mettinkaytaz6106

6 ай бұрын

@@pugmalley I mean yeah, you have to look at things objectively and logically, and all the while we're led to believe Randy bedded a very young Stephanie Mcmahon 🤔

Randy Savage may have been paranoid and insecure but doesnt make him a bad person..there are many stories of ppl saying Randy always madr time to sign for fans and take pics with kids..thats what counts

@Glasschin2.0

5 ай бұрын

Doesn’t make him a bad person but some people don’t take accountability and learn from their mistakes. I’ve got a mate who’s 40 , who has ruined every relationship he’s been in due to jealousy and being insecure. Even now he’s been with a lady a few years and has a young baby and he’s repeating the some behaviour but can’t see it. I work with a guy who’s 60 and on the verge of his third divorce. His first two marriages broke down because he works too many hours and both his exes played away. Yet he still takes every shift under the sun , working weekends and back holidays. He cancelled two holidays with his wife last year, making her go alone. Yet he doesn’t see that he’s the issue.

@BigBoss-zi5ss

5 ай бұрын

@@Glasschin2.0 yea I would say the 40 has problems and the 60 yr old has major problems mentally..but most likely they won't change..tell you the truth there is a story of Randy doing something messed up (allegedly ) to that girl he was dating in WCW..he had cameras in her house cause he was so jealous

Would it be possible to ever ask Jim about any of his opinions and/or experiences about the great Paul Boesch? Boesch was the voice of my childhood and I absolutely adore JR. Would love to hear what he has to say!

With 83 Weeks Eric Bischoff, a much discredited figure, has managed to rehabilitate himself to the point that fans are questioning why an individual with such wisdom is not working in Florida or New York. Meanwhile, JR, a universally loved and respected figure is going scorched earth on our childhood memories! As Connie says, this truly is an interesting time in the business.

@abark

6 ай бұрын

I could never stand this gasbag.

@brutusb8004

6 ай бұрын

WHat? LOL. I dont think Ive seen a more off base comment ever. EB is a fucking loser. He had a hand in ruining wresting as we know it today. Nobody is questioning why he's not working. LOL. You can suck a dick for even thinking anything different. LOL. And JR isnt saying anything about Randy Savage that hasnt already been said a million times by a million different people.

@Sleepwalkingok

5 ай бұрын

i think Eric Bischoff have a lot of knowledge of the business but he made some of the worse mistakes in wrestling in the story of this sport-entertainment. even Vic Venom have some good ideas, but the fact that we're in 2024 and not in '90 maybe is the andswer why they don't fit in the promotions now.

@brutusb8004

5 ай бұрын

@@Sleepwalkingok Eric Bischoff had no knowledge of the business and that was his fucking problem. Dont take it from me, look at how he got that job and what he did before. Loser should have never been in the business in the first place.

@UziBlancoOfficial

5 ай бұрын

Connie... does he wanna be cornette much 😂😂😂😂

Let’s crap on the dead guy. Smh. Lossed respect for jim here, he’s a bigger legend than you

Macho Man was humble, wasn't a racist, wasn't stingy, wasn't beating women, he donated to the poor and children, he's in my top ten wrestlers of all time. I never heard him say the N word, or sexually assaulting any woman, and he was humble.

Macho man was one of the greatest of all time..!! he had it all the look the in ring skills and mic skills ..he was actaully my fav

Macho lost a lot of size, as per his TNA appearance, but man… what might have been, had Randy come back when WCW folded.

Randy was one of two ppl vinny mcdkbag never hired back... the other one was Luger.........

@jd9119

6 ай бұрын

I bet Hunter ight now that Vince is out of the picture. Luger could make a good HOF speech talking about his path to Christ.

@chrisvietro4360

6 ай бұрын

Sad case for both. Savage should have went in hall of fame ALIVE and lex MUST GO IN PERIOD

@curthennig9448

6 ай бұрын

Jarrett was on the outs for a long time.

A) who wasn’t a bully back then? B) I’ve seriously never heard that from anyone else

“And I am… the cream.”

Imagine that JR is and was a professional. Not surprised in the latest.

Mancho Man is greatest sports entertainer in wresting history. He was good on the stick, knew how work a match, and great sports commenter. More than Steve Austin butt kisser Jim Ross. Mancho was a real wrestler talk , bad he worried about getting buried. Vince was mad that Mancho took Slim Jim deal. With him too WCW. And, Vince never forgave him for that.

@brendanroberts1310

6 ай бұрын

I thought it was the Stephanie scandal, alleged obviously.

@waynejeffery6995

6 ай бұрын

Who the hell is Mancho Man.

Which episode is this from on the podcast? Anyone know? Thanks in advance!🎉

After he retired from wrestling, Randy Savage married his high school sweetheart and was married to her until he passed away. That is just for any fans that didn't know.

Coming from a guy who didn't like when the Roadwarriors no sold. I can see why Randy didn't like Jim. He's a pass the buck coward

Randy Savage worked very hard

They dont bring him back......so he becomes immortalized in Spiderman 🔥 🔥 "BONESAW IS READYYY!!!!"

Him And the warrior had always been my favorite..

Lanny told a story in the UK of Randy sucker punching Bill Dundee and said, next to Hulk Hogan that he could definitely be like JR says here.

@phillytnoize

6 ай бұрын

Dutch Mantel told a similar story of Savage threatening to "beat the shit" out of him for no reason whatsoever.

@h0ckeyd

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, Lanny's words were "he had an explosive personality, either he loved you to death or hated you intensely...there was no middle way", Hogan replied "boy, don't I know that"@@phillytnoize

He showed Stephanie the cream of the crop.

Its ironic the parallels between Savage and Austin,yet JR would wipe Austin’s ass with his bare hands if he had to. I like JR but his opinion changes on who he got along with personally/made money with.

Never thought i'd see JR smoking weed and talking about the Macho Man

Randy savage a bully? Never heard anyone say that about him before

@andrewft31

6 ай бұрын

Quite a few have said that lol and that he was insecure and paranoid… Andre hated him…

@kylefisher6521

6 ай бұрын

That’s JR being salty about macho man

@regulardadhere8832

6 ай бұрын

@@andrewft31Andre was a bitch. Didn’t like John Studd cuz he stepped over the top rope. Always hated other big men. He was a bully himself.

@BigBadJerryRogers

6 ай бұрын

​@@andrewft31that's true, Macho Man used to bully Andre endlessly. He would cover himself in baby oil just to torment Andre in the ring

@jd9119

6 ай бұрын

Randy and Lanny used to gang up on people in his daddy's promotion. I've heard of other people talking about this.

Randy's insecurity and paranoia cost him his marriage to Elizabeth. She just couldn't deal with it.

@phillytnoize

6 ай бұрын

He had her best interest in mind. You see what happened to her once she got "let loose". R.i.p. Elizabeth and Macho Man (imo the most complete wrestler of all time)

@prestonpfeiffer

6 ай бұрын

@@phillytnoizeexactly

@mykoniichistorychannel

6 ай бұрын

@@phillytnoizeBe that as it may, the OP was still correct.

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

I truly believe Liz left Randy because Randy was on the road and Liz wanted off the hamster wheel. Savage was protective of her because the guys did bad things to women like shit on their faces like Vince. Savage was protective of the woman he loved. And she couldn't wait to run off and cheat on him. Then she cheated on her lawyer husband Hogan set her up with with Luger. Then she did drugs with him and died. Liz gets painted some perfect person but she was far from it.

@jenruiz7606

4 ай бұрын

Well damn I didn’t realize so many knew Macho personally.

Randy did a lot for kids charity’s and it didn’t bully he didn’t take no shit from no body

ross was NOT in the wwe very long when macho was there.and he rarely worked with him on commentary.so who cares if he didnt like him lol.macho man and elizabeth were awesome together and will always be wrestlings first couple

Why does a name like stephanie Mcmahon not pop up in this conversation?????

@danielberry4765

6 ай бұрын

Illicit internet rumours aren’t part of the show.

@MrVante247

6 ай бұрын

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣🤣🤣

@kazman_6899

6 ай бұрын

​@@danielberry4765Dutch confirmed it, big man.

@danielberry4765

6 ай бұрын

@@kazman_6899 Like Meltzer confirmed Mabel was the third man. The two people who know for sure one isn’t talking and the other is dead.

@kazman_6899

6 ай бұрын

@@danielberry4765 I think you fail to understand. Dutch -- who was there at the time (yes, that's right) -- has said that it was the talk of the dressing room. Everyone knew about it! That's a huge elephant in the room when it comes to these conversations. Don't ask about Steph. Ask about Dutch.

I always love when JR says comments like "if a guy helps your bottom line, you keep him." WHY DONT YOU TELL YOUR CURRENT BOSS THAT?????????????

@Fuzzie_Dunlop968

6 ай бұрын

Gotta milk the udders of the money mark.

A Savage/Austin feud in 2001-02 wouldve been epic. Shame we never got the chance to see it

@Glasschin2.0

5 ай бұрын

Randy was shot to bits by then. A Randy and Bret hart feud in 93/94 would have been better if Randy turned heal.

Amazing how good JR can recall things

It was all rumor in ur window . But it was said Elizabeth liked JR's bbq sauce better .

@rphxleonine

6 ай бұрын

Tell me you're fucking around and you know it's "rumor and innuendo".

@studbourbon798

6 ай бұрын

@@rphxleonine , what did i say . The man has great bbq sauce , how can u blame her ?

@jamesbarnes7045

6 ай бұрын

Yeah the term rumor innuendo is stupid as fuck

@jaythor70

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesbarnes7045 There has been innuendo about Randy and Stephanie. Rumor- unsupported gossip, innuendo- saying something without being specific or fact-supported. These are common in wrestling history, and so very applicable terms for Conrad to use. You seem to have such a flare with the English language, what terms would you use?

@Director2024

6 ай бұрын

Sometimes when you can’t be manipulated or used, you are deemed as hard to deal with too.

He was a good commentator.

@littletom1978

6 ай бұрын

Idk, lol , for me anyway..to this day one of my favorite wrestlers ever, and when I was a kid loved him on commentary too, however when I watch anything now with him on commentary, its a little hard to listen to him for the whole hour. I think Roddy Piper ( my other all time favorite) ages little better on commentary then Randy does, but thats just me...Randy on wwf mania with Todd I think still is fun to watch. Maybe its just that intense voice of his doesn't work for la ong broadcast..again, just for me

@cutekanjii

6 ай бұрын

Savage was an awful commentator

@tafua_a

6 ай бұрын

He threw me off a little bit. A commentator should make you get into the match, which is hard to do when Randy Savage is around but not inside the ring. If he was anywhere other than under the spotlight, he was distracting imo.

Successful promoters are not petty people with thin skins. They put the good of the company above potential interpersonal differences. You saw that with Vince McMahon when Ultimate Warrior held Wrestlemania hostage to negotiate a better payday.

Conrad is every wrestling podcast 😂

Holy shit JR smokes! I mean all power to him, it’s his choice his life, but I’m truly surprised. I mostly just listen to these.

Vince never forgot what randy did to the million dollar princess more like😂

@inutero10

6 ай бұрын

Billion

@AronHallan

6 ай бұрын

uuuhhhh yeeaahhh, i don't see another reason for why he didn't come back to wwe, the rumors must be true.

@Director2024

6 ай бұрын

@@AronHallanI think if that was true, Vince would have not just let it slide. Randy still worked for Vince before he left. He wasn’t fired. When did Vince find out, after? Could Stef not file a complaint?

@blake7871

6 ай бұрын

@@Director2024He found out after Savage left the WWF.

@georgefreemon2935

5 ай бұрын

What did he do? Not familiar with this

It’s funny you know I persisted to listen in its entirety even though as soon as Conrad made veiled reference to personal issue between him and Vince my mind was made up and I just started imagining what that scenario was like 👍🏻 lol

Randy and Steamboat were the prototypes for smaller wrestler being a Star. In the former land of giants. Without them i dont see this generation of workers ever getting a shot. Like them or not

“Silly rumours” that are 100% true 😂

@AssClown-wi6og

6 ай бұрын

I really don’t. If that rumor was true I think Vince would’ve ruined Randy’s life and made sure he never wrestled again anywhere

@Nostalgia9478

6 ай бұрын

Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you 😂🤣😁

Jr smokes?

@scottigertiger6430

6 ай бұрын

House must stink

@zlinedavid

6 ай бұрын

JR has been a fan of the devil's lettuce for quite awhile.

I guess canoodling with Steph was considered "helping the company's bottom line" only for Triple H 🤣

@tylerd1090

5 ай бұрын

I 💯 believe this is the reason why savage was never asked back. Vince is a business man. Smart one. He knows savage would have made money during some comeback. Makes zero sense. Has to be true.

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

5 ай бұрын

​​@@tylerd1090If this truth ever came out it'd be bad for business and marketing Savage. Meanwhile Vince is shitting and urinating on women. No biggie. Great businessman my ass.

I always wondered what was Jr's favorite food.