Spoiler alert - he didn't like it

@ChannelSaynt

4 жыл бұрын

moobslikejagger shocker

@OptimusProvost

4 жыл бұрын

Shocking

@Hellwolf36

4 жыл бұрын

Ya think!?

@jamesgillam8488

4 жыл бұрын

It was terrible

@XombieLejon66

4 жыл бұрын

Grass is green and Kevin Dunn can land a plane on his bucky beaver teeth

It was “This is Your Life John Cena” on LSD.

@ChristianRamosTheKingSlater

4 жыл бұрын

@Jim Cornette on shrooms?

@LoudFlimzz

4 жыл бұрын

and it was fucking fantastic.

@philtll

4 жыл бұрын

@Jim Cornette exactly, it was like a bad writer's idea of an acid trip

@Beer_Baron_

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Cornette Well, someone had to be on drugs of some type when they concocted this homage to David Lynch!

@madbrowniac7871

4 жыл бұрын

Beer Baron: Sherilynn Fenn as "Sister Abigail" could've been very intriguing!😘😎💃B.W.

Not gonna lie after watching the match I immediately thought of what Cornette’s reaction would be and i’m not disappointed.

@speranza9415

4 жыл бұрын

When I heard *"John Cena I challenge you to a Firefly Fun House Match"* I already thought what Corny's reaction would be like

@patrickhaldeman346

4 жыл бұрын

This is my first thought after everything that happens in wrestling lol. Jim lives in my head

@TheFailedmessiah

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Haldeman lol, I love see Jim RAGE.... it’s hilarious.

@OceanbornAngel

3 жыл бұрын

Why do we need to be subjected to everything but wrestling on a wrestling program though?

@kylemadden3730

3 жыл бұрын

Ô9ú

The "match" was essentially just one giant ribbing of John Cena and his entire career.

@Spade1350

4 жыл бұрын

Co-signed by Cena himself.

@billybadass3056

4 жыл бұрын

wat in the FUCK is this thread @Brandon???? Regulate this shit PLEASE!!!

@billybadass3056

4 жыл бұрын

@NatureBoy210 I just fartted in your face... LMAO...

@devinodriscoll

4 жыл бұрын

NatureBoy210 insider of the music industry here, work as a producer and audio engineer. you’re an absolute fucking looney, it’s an industry, just like every other. in the digital age, even if the things you were saying were going on, it’d be common knowledge. why don’t you stop wasting time bemoaning some celebrities worshiping an imaginary bad guy and start focusing on more tangible problems, like these massive conglomerates who are taking advantage of the working class and generally acting outside the law as they please. you’re wasting your breath bitching about a conspiracy that wouldn’t put anyone at risk if it even WERE true. get your head out of your ass, you whiny faggot.

@SteffonGreatness

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Guimond and that’s why it’s great.

Never clicked on something so fast...

@awalton1017

4 жыл бұрын

Same Haha

@georgivasilev8428

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@llad.7181

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@sjdrifter72

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. Been waiting for this since Sunday.

@jmelia123

4 жыл бұрын

Thought of Cornette when this was going on 🤣

The Titus face afterwards was priceless. Should've ended the PPV there lol.

@leerobbo92

4 жыл бұрын

Meh, I eye-rolled *hard* when they cut to Titus. They were kind enough to not treat us like complete idiots and at least let us piece the story together and the references, but then they have to bludgeon us over the head with "generic shocked presenter #5". Would've been more effective if they just cut to commercials and gave everyone a few minutes to absorb what the hell just happened on their own.

@Goochbag8

4 жыл бұрын

Based Titus. I would have laughed my god damn ass off if it just ended there.

@Gawdzillest

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@eLiFILMSinc

4 жыл бұрын

They should've either Not Shown Titus at All or Titus' head should've exploded, ending his career (Live from Catering) right there and then

@koolpopjones6499

4 жыл бұрын

What? Lol

First three words from corny's mouth are "WHAT WAS THAT?" ah yes, gonna be fun

"John Cena would never be seen again" Um you can't see him to begin with....

@suzmac1526

4 жыл бұрын

Josiah Sterling I see what you did there🤣🤣🤣🤣

@NikSakPattyWack

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment on here. Period.

@arami187

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you're Steve Blackman 😁

@popo0129

4 жыл бұрын

To this day I still have no visual in my mind when I think about John Cena.

@michaelrowland1129

4 жыл бұрын

brilliant

As someone pointed out: Hogan went heel at 43, Cena is 42. Hogan turned into Hollywood Hogan, Cena left for Hollywood and next year WM is in Hollywood. If this * doesn't turn him heel nothing will.

@DreMurrz

4 жыл бұрын

Tru 🙄

@angelguzman8737

4 жыл бұрын

A heel turn now is really pointless

@lordmasterstrader8296

4 жыл бұрын

Angel Guzman could’ve said the same about Hogan. You are even more incorrect than Corny about the match itself

@angelguzman8737

4 жыл бұрын

Rhaegar Targaryen I don’t get why people want cena to turn heel and why it’s so important if you know cena he was a heel before

@DreMurrz

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelguzman8737 not really b/c if once all thiz covid shit over & da fanz n da standz if he turnz on da biggest Babyface WWE haz 2 offer it would b epic b/c Cena really iz da new Hogan & after da dungeon of doom we saw Hogan whole heel turn thankz 2 Kevin & Scott's Segway

"This is the end of wrestling" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@technounionrepresentative4274

4 жыл бұрын

I swear i have heard him say that a thousand times

@KokoTheGorilla69

4 жыл бұрын

Wrestling has been on the decline and ratings havnntt gone up for years, so he ain't wrong

@cmfunk7665

4 жыл бұрын

He’s not wrong. No stars equals less fans

@davidprevost6670

4 жыл бұрын

Then don't watch who cares there are plenty of things on streaming services to watch.

@Shawn6751

4 жыл бұрын

Unless there's a promotion that will go beyond the Attitude Era and go into the limits where nobody will even dare to enter.

"You insult your audience when you go from the Firefly Funhouse to Brock Lesnar" You're right - but I don't think we agree on why.....

@AJ-xv7oh

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@bookmark7859

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Lesnar actually wrestled in a wrestling ring on a wrestling show... The audacity.

@toadysp

4 жыл бұрын

@DejaVoodooDoll Agreed. Drew vs Brock was a shitshow. Just finisher after finisher until someone wins and someone loses. Firefly Funhouse had history, it had story, it had depth. It had meaning. There were stakes and there were consequences. If there was a crowd, funhouse would have gotten cheered, Drew v Brock would have gotten booed, so would have Goldberg v Braun. WWE has shown us time and time again that simply being strong doesn't make you interesting. Kicking out of a thousand finishers doesn't make you the new greatest attraction. What makes you the new greatest attraction is showing the audience something they haven't seen yet.

@RevVoice2

4 жыл бұрын

​@@AJ-xv7oh I mean - I find Brock more of an insulting character than I do a Fiend/Cena fever dream. he is the 'go to' for a WWE that no longer knows how to make successful good guys. His matches drive me to tears of boredom, they rarely tell any kind of interesting story, and I am more prone to changing the channel when he's on than looking forward to someone beating him.

@bookmark7859

4 жыл бұрын

@DejaVoodooDoll A clip show is not "match psychology"... ... it's just a clip show. That's all. I would say try not to over think this, but it seems you won't have that problem...

I'm sure if Cena turned into a puppet at the end Jim would've lost his shit.

@aaronjjacques

4 жыл бұрын

they have to add a cena puppet to the firefly fun house

@joeyphenomenal

4 жыл бұрын

But he did TURN to a puppet! Vincent's puppet!!!! smh

@604eign

3 ай бұрын

He would threaten to get his gun and shoot the Cena puppet 😂😂😂

As Krusty the Clown once said “ WHAT HELL WAS THAT?!!!”

@LosFace24

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He can put a better cartoon out of his aaaaaassssss hey kids!!!!

@BathSaltShaman

4 жыл бұрын

That clip was exactly what played in my head the second it was over.

@theevilascotcompany9255

4 жыл бұрын

Endut! Hoch hech!

@arami187

4 жыл бұрын

Send in....THE CLOWNS! 😪

What was that ??? That’s the very start I was totally expecting 😂😂😂😂🤣

@poavao6832

4 жыл бұрын

Amber Mcjack 😂😂😂😂🤣

@user-mf9fv6rt1k

4 жыл бұрын

Amber, Cornette didn't like this? What's next, Irish cops?

@ambermcjack8406

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Molina why .. because me just like the 99 % of ppl who follow wrestling knew Jim was gonna hate this ? Use common sense dude!

The point was that Wyatt pulled some Freddy Kruger shit and took down Cena from inside his mind. As Cena broke Wyatt 6 years prior, Wyatt broke Cena. It was done this way BECAUSE there was no crowd. It would never work in front of a live crowd, they used this as an opportunity to try something new. The Hogan references were there to tie in with Wyatt's accusations of Cena being selfish and egotistical, drawing parallels between Cena and Hogan's careers. This was a way to show Bray/The Fiend as a threat in a new way, one in which even Undertaker never did. People who liked it willingly suspended disbelief to go along for the ride and see where it would take them. Granted, it wasn't wrestling, but I would posit that it wasn't supposed to be.

@drench1

4 жыл бұрын

excellent description. i really enjoyed it for what it was and applaud them for trying something new.

@yourgameisstupid

4 жыл бұрын

I thought that was all really obvious; that the whole thing was taking place in Cena's mind, thus all of the surreal stuff. I guess it wasn't obvious to everyone.

@RobCrowley85

4 жыл бұрын

@@yourgameisstupid it is, yes, but Jim seems to have forgotten to account for it.

@jdavid1027

4 жыл бұрын

It was horrible even without a crowd! This is some ABYSMAL horse shit... If this is the direction VInce wants to take WWE I better sell my stock before it completely tanks.

@pokrizzle

4 жыл бұрын

It was promoted as a wrestling match. End of story. It sucked.

I didn't even look at it as a wrestling match, it was literally like watching a ten minute promo.

@jdavid1027

4 жыл бұрын

A TERRIBLE 10-minute promo...

@rocky7895

4 жыл бұрын

That's what i was thinking, i was waiting for the dam match to start n then it was over lol how u gonna have a "match" with no ref or nun n time travel and teleport and vanish ppl from existence and cheat and count the pin for yourself in another dimension. Thats not a match lol thats some whacky shit

@alfa01spotivo

4 жыл бұрын

@@rocky7895 that just sounds boring

@blackthunder4406

2 жыл бұрын

@@rocky7895 exactly

@JACQUEZJOHNSON23

Жыл бұрын

@@jdavid1027 shit was trash

Does the WWE's Wellness Policy test for DMT?😵

@jesot

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT'S ROE JOGAN DOING IN THE PERFORMANCE CENTER?!

@jesterr7133

4 жыл бұрын

I would have to be a lot of DMT, lol. I didn't trip that hard.

@_gorezone_

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesot ok, that was great lol

@dizzle1119

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesterr7133 You've never gotten the good stuff, sir. Also, method of injestion/use matters as well. I have VERY, VERY high end vaping gear, so I have a huge advantage right off the bat. DMT is "religious". I don't know what else to call it. I really don't. I no longer fear death.

@franklinrichards6559

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe. But did they ship it with the network? Alpha wave induced maybe?

Imagine if they had John Cena in his OVW days in this and Corny makes an appearance as Bray Wyatt😂😂

@ii9714

4 жыл бұрын

Jim would have to be paid a boatload of money to help ruin the wrestling industry

@whoopty54

9 ай бұрын

Made no sence bray was in fcw cena was in ovw.

I nearly died laughing when the Vince puppet said "This is such good shit!" It was worth it for that moment alone to me. Loved the old references that only long time fans would get, and the story they told, it was John Cena's worst nightmare, from him failing after his debut in 2002, to the heel turn that never happened, Bray singing the Bellas entrance theme. and doing a callback to their WM 30 match. I thought it was brilliant.

@liamcrossley9292

4 жыл бұрын

Did u catch on to the vince puppet saying to cena put your hands up. Sweet RVD chair shot reference. Wyatt always sneeks nuggets of gold like this in his work.

@ethanmaccullouch2776

4 жыл бұрын

I think you're fucked in the head from smoking too much crack from aluminum cans and pop bottles.

@ethanmaccullouch2776

4 жыл бұрын

I'm finished with wrestling. The product has changed too drastically. The fans have changed too drastically. I cannot share the same product with all you freaks.

@liamcrossley9292

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanmaccullouch2776 if that's how u do crack that's ur life pal I never touch that stuff. Original user name BTW u come up with that all by yourself? 🤣🤣

@DanNJ316

4 жыл бұрын

@@liamcrossley9292 I saw the Vince puppet say to put your hands up, but didn't know that was an RVD reference. Good catch. When I watched it again, I also caught a split second shot of CM Punk that I missed the first time around. This thing was full of so many Easter eggs for long time fans, lol.

"Cena's Hogan on Nitro. I hate this. What does this shit even mean?!" I lost it 😂

I enjoyed it but I smoke a lot more weed than Corny I'd estimate.

@anactualopinion868

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@trentshimmonsiilaogreens4074

4 жыл бұрын

Now I want to burn one with Corney

@jasonsahm439

4 жыл бұрын

Same. Was high as a kite watching this match and I thought my shit got laced with acid.

@patrickboian8545

4 жыл бұрын

same lol I took a dab maybe 5 minutes before

@freakshow706

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pausing at 0.00. My predictions: - killing the business - funny don't make money - In my day people used to believe that wrestling was real even though that required them to believe that all wrestling promotions hire a roughly even number of heroes and villains - nebulous blather about psychology which is conveniently not explored - some kind of comparison with Brock Lesnar and him being legit despite him disrespecting the business in the ways that usually wind JC up - pro wrestling is dead I shouldn't watch it because I know what he'll say. But I gotta know.

It was a journey through Cena’s history. Bray was mentally destroying Cena by makin him face his demons & compared him to Hogan.

@fuzzluvver69

4 жыл бұрын

What was he supposed to have done? Hypnotised Cena into playing along? What was in a nutshell - well produced bullsh*t. Wrestling is dead.

@DeadWirePromotions

4 жыл бұрын

fuzzluvver69 no, it’s not.

@DeadWirePromotions

4 жыл бұрын

Sports Guru that’s wrong. It’s really nice, but that’s wrong.

@BLACKHOLE498

4 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Haynes Hogan was a simple champion for a simple time. Cena is Hogan2.0. Bray nailed it!

@eoghanryan1504

2 жыл бұрын

Bray wyatt is a shit wrestler and the fiend is beyond pathetic

This match outlined the fact that John Cena has been a corporate heel since 2006.

@TaurusTheCreator

4 жыл бұрын

Except it wasn't a match.

@johngallagher72

4 жыл бұрын

All the guys who were the man for long periods of time were viewed like this after their act wore thin. I think Bruno was the exception. Fans grew tired of Howdy Doody Backlund because the world was changing. Hogans little Hulkamaniacs of which I was one all grew up. Personally I think the Fiend torturing Cena psychologically is a great way to turn him heel if this the direction they want to go.

@deftdawg

4 жыл бұрын

Go Whalers!

@squarepickle

4 жыл бұрын

Best John Cena match ever... Aside from Brock murdering him in 2014.

@jamesgentry13

4 жыл бұрын

Shitting on cena is dumb. On everyone's part. I'm not even a cena fan but damnit he is the best of his era.. he didnt bury anyone or pull any bulmshit looe Hogan or shawn or triple h did. Cena deserves the respect of the legend he is and he deserved a hell of a lot better than what he has got the last 3 manias. And he sure as hell didnt deserve this shit.

I wanna see Bray put EVERYONE through the funhouse: Brock, hhh etc

@blackamericano2450

4 жыл бұрын

Brock would beat the hell out of Bray for even suggesting this goofy shit.

@hafizsyednomanali6868

4 жыл бұрын

@Black Americano lol

@nonyabidness7911

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously tho- imagine Brock enters the funhouse with his old trunks and beats up and old man (hogan, his claim to fame) they hand him a mic and there’s no sound (he can’t cut promos) so they give him a walrus to talk for him. Crowds of puppets want his autograph and he has a panic attack (he hates people). Id watch it

@nonyabidness7911

4 жыл бұрын

Crow Jackson it’d be awesome to see him face his failures

@darrengordon-hill

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonyabidness7911 Gonna work for those with enough "content/clout". HHH's would be amazing!!!

AEW will be fine. They've got Jim Ross too. He's as experienced in the business as anyone on planet earth

@phillipstankey8881

4 жыл бұрын

JR has lost it as an announcer

@KratosM4000

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t age well

This opening could not have been better. "What.. was that..."

Sometimes I wonder if the boys are actively trying to shave years off of corneys life

@cishansen4162

4 жыл бұрын

I like to think they all sit around the locker room listening to him on a laptop 😂

@Ghastly_Grinner

4 жыл бұрын

@@cishansen4162 I can't wait until AEW does a 36 week Kenny Omega vs Colt Cabana program where in the end President Trump comes out and pins them both with the help of Marco Stunt Jim is going to need the paddles 😂

@TimeBomb014X

4 жыл бұрын

This is all Vince Russo's plan to speed Jim into an early grave

@cishansen4162

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ghastly_Grinner FoR ThE LoVe Of GoD!! SoMeBoDy GeT ThE PaDDlEs!!! 😂

@MaestroJericho

4 жыл бұрын

there's gotta be a multi-company group text

Not a match This is Cena helping Bray redeem himself with a montage

The symbolism in the "match" was unreal. Bray just assassinated Cena's legacy, and exposed him for the person he really is. Bray is in the wrong business. He's too creative to be shackled by WWE.

@Tylnorton

4 жыл бұрын

But Bray and Cena put these ideas together.

@ethanmaccullouch2776

4 жыл бұрын

The worst offending segments in wrestling are alternate dimensions and dream segments. I wanna see a show. Not a show about a really fucked up retarded show.

@ryandiaz6077

4 жыл бұрын

Aman Dahugenkiss Wrestling isn’t the UFC. It is a show, it’s about telling stories mainly, wresting without it would be boring. And it’s not like they did this on a random PPV. They didn’t have a crowd so they made the best thing out of their scenario. If you don’t like it, don’t let the door hit you on the way out

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

Wyatt is not some god of creativity though. Most people respond to his vignettes positively because he shows things people have already created in their minds anyway. Symbolism isn't why the match happens. And yes, Bray is in the wrong business. He should be a TV writer.

@jtg1972

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriss790 i never said symbolism was the reason WHY the match happened, only that there was a lot of symbolism IN the match.

"What was That?!" I actually had to pause immediately as I couldn't stop laughing and I'm only on the first 2 seconds of this video

@thomasmccormack9136

4 жыл бұрын

When a non-wrestling fan walks in the room and asks you what the fuck are you watching, pure shame.

Ready for the ‘Jim just hates fun’ comments

@kidvillain188

4 жыл бұрын

Jim just hates fun

@jamalwashington7831

4 жыл бұрын

Just like he calls it how he see it, his detractors can do the same.

@GeorgeGrekOFF

4 жыл бұрын

People have different opinion on fun. JC likes traditional wrestling and this match was not wrestling match. I liked it in a way, but people probably should respect his opinion.

@therealmaskedheel

4 жыл бұрын

The people who cry "Jim hates fun" are the same ones who cry when their favorites aren't booked to win a fake wrestling match.

@billh344

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealmaskedheel Isn't that the attitude of fans that built wrestling as a business? Fans who care and get mad?

I haven't listened to this yet and I already know what he's gonna think.

@KingJaymo2k11

4 жыл бұрын

David Ratty like everything he reviews...it’s the end of wrestling

@danielwallace1759

4 жыл бұрын

You literally only need to listen to the first second

@frankgradia5366

4 жыл бұрын

David Ratty correct me if I am wrong but when was the last time Cornette did something that was bringing in major people and making money? I like Cornette and I know liking wwe is taboo right now but I still like it but I don’t agree with everything they do but they are a massively profitable company and that’s the bottom line isn’t it? Straight wrestling like these guys like doesn’t make big money. AEW isn’t straight wrestling because of all the flips and dives they do but they are still profitably. What did Cornette do that is so profitable is my question? Also what has Brian last done to question anyone ? He’s Cornette’s lackey and a nobody otherwise

@dennisbowen452

4 жыл бұрын

He's a boomer. Need to take jim outback and old yeller his opinions

@dennisbowen452

4 жыл бұрын

@Guerilla PSYOPS youre right. If you use your whole brain you'd understand and liked the "match"

"I hope the cameramen are fired and never come back"

Cornette's the type of dude to get pissed that Scarlett Johansson doesn't pretend to be Black Widow in an interview

@billybadass3056

4 жыл бұрын

what?

@jordonsmale7850

4 жыл бұрын

You would be the guy that gets mad because ur mom forgot to put pop tarts in ur lunch

@turdsandwich4265

4 жыл бұрын

Jordon Smale that's gotta be the most generic 5 year old insult i've ever heard

@jordonsmale7850

4 жыл бұрын

@@turdsandwich4265 I did that on purpose

@franz8072

3 жыл бұрын

Cornette's the type of dude who wants wrestling to be wrestling not acting.

We need a jim Cornette puppet

@johnselwitz5362

4 жыл бұрын

Oh God, yes!

@machosavage4194

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao facts

@kismetghost

4 жыл бұрын

Book it, Jim Henson Studios.

@Rocker5593

4 жыл бұрын

voiced by Bruce Pritchard lol

@kismetghost

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rocker5593 Vince Russo should voice it for extra salt points.

Jim, I actually agree with you more than I disagree with you, but you really have to understand that your idea of what professional wrestling is doesn't exist anymore. Wrestling is not, and will never again be about trying to sell people on the idea that it is a legitimate sport. And it's not because of Vince McMahon or Vince Russo or The Curtain Call or Kenny Omega or Japanese schoolgirls or Marco Stunt, it's because people aren't stupid. The internet exists, the wrestling business was ALWAYS going to be exposed, no matter what anyone in it did, it was inevitable. Wrestling, right now, is a TV show about people who wrestle, their motivations, their characters, their trials and tribulations. That's it. That's all it is. And this "match", was the absolute greatest dissection of a character I've ever seen in any piece of storytelling. It beautifully navigated through 18 years of John Cena, his failures, his flawed motivations, his missed opportunities, his entire career.

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

The internet and access to information by millions of fans killed the business of simulating conflict. The reason wrestling is at its best when the lines are blurred is because people WANT to see it as a legitimate sport/conflict. And it HAS been so in the times of internet. Lesnar gets legitimately disliked because he doesn't let people into his private life and doesn't kiss babies or give shoot interviews. Reason Undertaker didn't give them until now is because he knew it'd kill the mystique of the character and you'd never get invested in his streak as much if he did. WRESTLING MATTERS. And fucking Omegas and people making it about pancakes, sunshine, rainbows and fireflies while trying to add some obscure wrapping ideology around it are killing any chance of us getting a match to actually care about.

Jim Cornette is the pure definition of the old head who doesn’t like anything new

@smallworldz7241

4 жыл бұрын

All the new shit is garbage you fucking pussy

@WatchHawk

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong, you clueless child. He actually loves The Revival (FTR) and had them on the show. He hates the product now, and rightfully so, because it is absolute garbage. Get on the WWE Network and watch everything from 1996-2006 to see how great it was and will never be again.

@theeternalsith9702

3 жыл бұрын

Wow talking shit from behind a keyboard the three of you guys must be proud. You should be ashamed of yourselves because if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say a goddamn thing.

@mannhouse8014

3 жыл бұрын

The corny fanboys come to the defense of their resident old man... Just like him they're set in their ways.

@WatchHawk

3 жыл бұрын

@@mannhouse8014 Because somebody who was in the business for 40 years knows what he's talking about, you dipshit. Not that I agree with him on everything. For instance, he hates all the pyro and hated Kane and Undertaker's supernatural abilities. But I'll take his word over any clown from AEW or people who root for the modern garbage any day.

My eyes lit up like a kid getting a PlayStation in 1997 when I saw there was a drive thru on this. Cornette must have gotten coerced into chiming in on this!

@user-mf9fv6rt1k

4 жыл бұрын

@Danny in that case I shouldn't speak for everyone haha

@amd1273

4 жыл бұрын

@Danny I had both, I preferred the N64 but I wouldn't call the PS1 a disappointment

@amd1273

4 жыл бұрын

@Danny now the Dreamcast was a disappointment, I had a choice between that, ps2, or GameCube and I chose the Dreamcast, it just didn't have enough games

It was like a nightmare sequence from a early 2000s wrestling movie directed by Tim Burton

@wackydsquarediv3805

4 жыл бұрын

Dagon Briggs Wow kid. Try Dream Warriors.

@MrDagonOfTheDead

4 жыл бұрын

@@wackydsquarediv3805 exactly, Freddy Krueger with the Nintendo Power Glove Style

@jeremypelter6898

4 жыл бұрын

You guys give this "match" way too much credit.

@The_Eastbound_Hyena

4 жыл бұрын

More like David Lynch's "talented" nephew.

@njinhere

Ай бұрын

I just watched that match and this is top five most disrespectful comment on KZread

I actually liked this. The only mistake was booking it as a match.

@mattypaul87

4 жыл бұрын

Good point. It was a good batshit crazy segment and it fit with the Firefly Fun House goofiness, but it didn't need to be an actual match.

@7654x

4 жыл бұрын

It was a match, it had a ring & a 3 count. The Boneyard "match" had neither 🤷🏾‍♂️

@dilldozar296

4 жыл бұрын

MrKillian1983 idk why anyone would have any negative thing to say about this. Two night ppv during a pandemic. It’s booked as a match cause it is a match. With your logic taker and aj isn’t a match. This firefly match bridges 5 years of story line for the fiend. It was very complex and very necessary. It’s also the most old school thing Wwe has done in decades. Old school wrestling is hokey bullshit. That’s what this was.

@7654x

4 жыл бұрын

@Krystal Giove lol

Jim Cornette should just watch boxing and UFC if he wants real fighting statistics and analytics while also being sports based lol

@pyrhusofeprius

4 жыл бұрын

Zelos311 news flash loser they always have!! Bill Watts was the exception and guess what his promotion wasn’t around very long.

@TheFailedmessiah

4 жыл бұрын

Does he watch it? He would like it, the way ufc presents is right up his alley,

It was amazing. Does everyone hate it on here just for the sake being influenced by Jim? The thing was a breath of fresh air..It came out that Cena was involved in the booking. But there are only so many empty arena matches you can have. I think with the current situation they were forced to do something different and it was fun and hell to watch.

@KeithEveland

4 жыл бұрын

I see the vast majority of comments say they liked it and that Jim doesn't get it. I watched it as it streamed and thought, 'What the fuck is this?' Then I answered, 'It's a pile of shit.' I love the Fiend. John Cena has proven himself to be one of the greatest, even though at times I couldn't stand him. But this "match" was a steaming pile of shit. I've been a wrestling fan for 45yrs. I hate to see it go down the toilet.

@richieadams6701

4 жыл бұрын

@@KeithEveland if this were a typical mania with a crowd I can see why people wouldn't like it. Honestly I laughed and it was different. Me as a pro wrestler myself, I appreciate a good match and story. All I can do is disagree with everyone when they say it was shit. People either loved it or hated it.

@justinsayswtf

4 жыл бұрын

@@KeithEveland It wasn't a match at all. I wanted to see Fiend vs. Cena. That was the match that was advertised, and it didn't take place.

@richieadams6701

4 жыл бұрын

@Zelos311 💜💜💜💜💜💜

@BrokenToy

4 жыл бұрын

@@KeithEveland you clearly need to stop watching WWE since you obviously don't like it. Go watch your indie boring wrestling shows like NJPW and ROH. WWE is about wrestling that is surrounded by elements of entertainment

The Boneyard Match was supposed to be a fight, so it worked as a filmed action movie kinda deal. The Firefly Funhouse Match was an inside joke for wrestling nerds like me. I loved it, but can see how it would make no sense to some and piss off others.

@thelinedrive

4 жыл бұрын

I think calling it a joke is ultimately does a disservice to what this was. This was a deconstruction of not only the John Cena character and career, but attitudes about wrestling within WWE for years. So those who know the thing makes sense as both a character piece for Cena and a deconstruction of decades of philosophy within the company. So the only way you get is if you know it, but if not it’s rather absurdist.

@ekwrestling

4 жыл бұрын

thelinedrive that’s very well said but it stretched the suspension of disbelief WAY too far for me

@madddoggnogood1491

4 жыл бұрын

This was a reward for keeping up with everything

@SplitGoose

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelinedrive It was also a joke. That does this segment no disservice, because that was what this was. You're not "smart" for noticing the elephant in the room. The meta commentary was OBVIOUS as was the fact that this... segment was a joke.

@thelinedrive

4 жыл бұрын

Enlightened Komedy and I get that. But I’m okay going crazy with stuff and experimenting when the angle calls for it. This is clearly not going to be a regular thing. This only works because of the performers. In this format you will see more Boneyard matches than FFFH.

I disagree with Jim here but i understand why he hated this. I loved it. From my point of view it was Bray not only getting revenge on Cena but calling him out on how he isn't the happy nice guy good boy wrestler he thinks he is. John's words coming back to bite him in the ass in the end as well. I loved it but i understand Jim

@americasevilgenius

4 жыл бұрын

But how do you explain Cena showing up in all of his own gimmicks? There's no way that you can portray this as real...therefore it completely fails as a wrestling match or as any sort of pro wrestling presentation.

@cheekclappa69

4 жыл бұрын

It was a member berries filled build up, promo video package that should've played on the go home show to get us ready for an actual match. I kept waiting for it to end to get to the match that I forgot about it and just had it on in the background at work. I didn't realize it was over until about two minutes into the main event. LOL Oh yea, the cena vs wyatt video is over. What happened to the match? hahaha!

@MattAlbie

4 жыл бұрын

@@americasevilgenius Irish whips are not real. Punching in wrestling is not real. Suplexing a guy with his coperation is not real. Nothing about wrestling, NOTHING is real. Every aspect of a wrestling match is artificial. People like Jims era feel that by pretending an Irish whip could happen that allows them to make it plausible... But it's not plausible. It's fucking stupid. I don't care if Big Show Irish whips me, I can stop myself from running uncontrollably.

@KokoTheGorilla69

4 жыл бұрын

@@MattAlbie it's morons with your attitude (usually big fat guys with beards who wear Hot Topic t-shirts) that killed wrestling. Thank god I was watching in the 90's when it was cool

@donaldfreeman1589

4 жыл бұрын

DiamondDave yeah when you had big boss man killing and tricking another man to eat his pey

“wasn’t easy to follow to begin with” you obviously had predetermined feelings about this anyway lmao

@gorouw2534

4 жыл бұрын

This guy represents annoying marks who complain yet watch wwe and they just wanna see midgets do flips and rolls for 20 plus minutes, wrestlers with no character and wrestling with no storytelling

@skum73

4 жыл бұрын

@@gorouw2534 You obviously dont mean Jim because he stands for the complete opposite of everything you just said.

@trashboat2687

4 жыл бұрын

Y’all must be new. Y’all need to check other Jim Cornette shoots because y’all have no idea who Jim Cornette really is

@trashboat2687

4 жыл бұрын

DejaVoodooDoll that’s irrelevant

@trashboat2687

4 жыл бұрын

DejaVoodooDoll oh wow that’s awesome

I don’t thing Jim understand the character of the Fiend...

Nah it was great, it was like nightmare on elm dream sequence about Cenas career and biggest failures, his refusal to go heel (vs hogan who did and revitalized the industry) and at the end he burried himself. It was brilliant. Id take this 100 times over some bullshit Goldberg match or Reigns looking strong.

@JHiggles

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't mind it as a promo or build up to a match but a Mania semi main event i don't know. Pretty goofy

@maverickr.3433

4 жыл бұрын

The Fiend killed Cena like Freddy Krugger and i like it.

@LoudFlimzz

4 жыл бұрын

You have to watch it more than once too, there's just so much in there.

@grim9467

4 жыл бұрын

Anyone who liked it is retarded.

@angelito1358

4 жыл бұрын

Droid X seams like y’all marks just look into it way to deep and make it seams so poetic and brilliant. This some silly shit. I support wrestling and the business but this ain’t neither.

Jim doesn't even know how to talk about this.😂😂 Imagine if AEW would do this. Jim's rant would be epic.😂😂

@darnelldarden9429

4 жыл бұрын

Or imagine if AEW not only did it but Kenny Olivea was apart of it

@lindyxmjh4589

4 жыл бұрын

@Krystal Giove Cornette's the only one who thinks wrestling needs to be saved. Wrestling today is fine, but it's not his form of "wrestling" anymore, hasn't really been since the 90's, and he's mad he can't be a part of it anymore.

@isaihvega9928

4 жыл бұрын

I think he gets more worked up over AEW cause he cares more about AEW. WWE is lost and itll stay lost for a while but AEW was the new alternative that had more of a hope to change things. And it doesnt have the corporate feel that WWE has. Even if wwe improves itll still always be corporate at the end of the day but AEW can be different

@lindyxmjh4589

4 жыл бұрын

@@polojuice2432 People point to the ratings like it's just wrestling that's down compared to yesteryear. This isn't twenty years ago, people just don't habitually watch weekly TV anymore, so you're never going to get Attitude Era numbers again no matter what your main event is. RAW still brings in millions of people to the USA network though and viewership to online programming and replays on Hulu are actually up with similar numbers. Streaming is up all around. And for a company that's barely gotten started, AEW's numbers are second only to basketball on TNT (on a f'n Wednesday no less). Plus you have a independent circuit that's bigger and more popular than ever on a global scale thanks to easier exposure from social media, and I do mean global because outside of the American bubble wrestling is still very popular in places like the UK and Japan, so like I said, wrestling is fine.

@lindyxmjh4589

4 жыл бұрын

@Krystal Giove Given you're hanging on to Cornette's words like the gospel despite some of the garbage he's been involved with or even wrote over the years, I don't know if one should be talking about taste. The product is 'fine', which means passable but with plenty of room for improvement. But improvement comes from constructive criticism, not just ranting and shitting on the product like an out of touch old fart on some old time message board as if he actually has more to contribute in today's world other than just hating what's new and different and shouting "not my wrestling!".

This match was genius. You'd have to know alot of the history of the story to catch all the metaphors and things going on. It was not 'silly shit" it wasn't mocking the business.

@codyjohnson4174

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it was actually very clever, funny, n smart. Let people be mad and closed minded this showed the genius of bray and the amazing creativity of John cena

@themarinect

9 ай бұрын

It wasn't really a match

@StevenBeverage

9 ай бұрын

@@themarinect ok...it was a work of "sports entertainment' genius during the pandemic that went through all the wrestling tropes of the last few decades

Of course Cornette wouldn't like this but it's annoying how they're acting like it's impossible to like. I thought it was one of the best things I'd ever seen.

@popo0129

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah my only gripe is that it's wrestling and I saw only like a minute of it. It was entertaining as hell though and a bit silly. Taker vs Styles I found a bit ridiculous but was still cool to see something like a video game fight (reminded me of that one wwe game where you fight random people in random areas like a mall or factory).

@raoulduke8725

4 жыл бұрын

chocolatepain it is impossible to like if you’re expecting to watch wrestling.If I was expecting to watch a black comedy of a parody of wrestling making fun of wrestling that was an awesome match it was funny,however it was not.

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

​@@raoulduke8725 Exactly that. And people fail to see Cornette's view on this, because parody and comedy really frankly is NOT wrestling, is it? It was a vignette, a promo, a KZread Clip. Nothing more. And why would you want a guy doing promos but barely ever wrestling seriously as a big star? I cannot understand this mindset.

It's funny how Vince "didn't get" Woken Matt Hardy's whole Hardy compound gimmick but totally loved Firefly Funhouse..... I mean, what's the difference! Lol

@iAmJuiceePablo

4 жыл бұрын

Vince didn't like it

@cobrakaiisback4709

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Hardy created it outside wwe and firefly funhouse is a wwe production. Both are great and wrestling is better for it.

@TheForeverRanger

4 жыл бұрын

Vince had little input if any on this. It was all Bray, Cena, Borash and Pritchard I believe.

@manuginobilisbaldspot424

4 жыл бұрын

One was created under the WWE umbrella...

@jarrettjordan

4 жыл бұрын

cobrakaiISBACK exactly. He buried it because it was created while Matt was in Impact. If Hardy came up with it in WWE, he would have loved it. Silly over-the-top shit is right up Vince's alley. I loved both.

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand the easter eggs and meaning to all of this

@J.G.Wentworth69420

4 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't... That's why it's so stupid.

@eastwaters4082

4 жыл бұрын

@@J.G.Wentworth69420 I guess watching a sequel to a movie is stupid too?

@J.G.Wentworth69420

4 жыл бұрын

@@eastwaters4082 That's the thing... This is supposed to be simulated combat. If they wanted to make a movie they could make a MOVIE. Moron.

Has anyone ever told Jim that Bray Wyatt is son of Mike Rotunda and grandson of Blackjack Mulligan

@dilldozar296

4 жыл бұрын

Gogo right!!!!? People don’t do their research anymore

@moralesharold87

4 жыл бұрын

I think he knows because he has referenced it before.

@lonnieharris1984

4 жыл бұрын

@Zelos311 Well, Bray is more charismatic than his family. Well he was trained by WWE machine, so he is limited. I think Bo Dallas (Bray Wyatt brother) had the wrestling ability but WWE buried him badly.

@jackdaone6469

3 жыл бұрын

Zelos311 Really? A charismatic and talented in-ring performer has no talent, eh?

He sounds like such a confused old man, not willing to understand new stuff in wrestling.

@ashtonbaum3192

4 жыл бұрын

Harry Pig Orr thank you 🙏🏻

@NUTnCASE

4 жыл бұрын

If anyone WANTS to understand this new shit then they're morons.

@BrokenToy

4 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Haynes XD woooooow you totally aren't 100% mad 😂

@airj0rd3n71

4 жыл бұрын

This ain't wrestling lol wtf. This ain't "new shit" wrestling. Had nothing to do with wrestling this was some bullshit that had no reasoning whatsoever behind it. This just was icing on the cake that WWE has lost its mojo. Shit was sad to watch

The artwork is amazing 😂 Travis you are King.

I will do Dave's job for him LOL TOP 5 teleporting Wrestlers of 2020 1.Rosemary 2.Undertaker 3.Matt Hardy 4. Su Young 5.Bray Wyatt

@anactualopinion868

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@wilsongreen3169

4 жыл бұрын

randy orton also.

I've been watching wrestling since the mid '70's. And I LOVED it.

@JONDAVIS111

Жыл бұрын

I loved it too.

Watched this “match” for the first time today and immediately had to see what Corny thought about it

Are you guys sure that Kevin Sullivan did not produce the Cinematic masterpiece

@DreMurrz

4 жыл бұрын

It woulda been sinister enuf 2 where u would've known Kevin's hand Waz n it.

@johngallagher72

4 жыл бұрын

The fiend trying to corrupt Cena if done well could be like Kevin Sullivan trying to convert Dusty Rhodes to the dark side back in the day.

@DreMurrz

4 жыл бұрын

@Bill Ding 😏 heard bout dat😁

@michaelallanrubin2376

4 жыл бұрын

Wow that was bad

@michaelbartholomew8155

4 жыл бұрын

I heard it was Jeremy Borash.

"Feedback is mixed" Bryan Alvarez did an informal twitter poll about this match. Over 26k votes, 82% "Loved it" to 18% "Hated it". That is not mixed feedback, that is overwhelming support.

@sebastianvella8992

4 жыл бұрын

Hitler was elected to chancellor and the people chose Barabbas a thief over Jesus. If this is too deep for you and you've never heard of these I suggest you look at what was the most popular song year by year in terms of sales and compare that to the songs from the same years that are still popular today because TIME is the best sifter. One of the most popular songs in the 1960's was Rolf Harris cover version of 'How much is that dog in the window'. By the way in the seventies people believed Mr. Brady of the Brady bunch was an ideal father and then he died of AIDS cause he was gay and in the 1980's everybody believed that Bill Cosby was the ideal father and we all know what happened right. I could go on and on and tell you how people were wrong so many times in their contemporary perceptions, but I think I made my point. Time will show that was nonsense.

@Njbear7453

4 жыл бұрын

Andy Parker there would’ve been 80 K people at mania so that means only 1/3 of the crowd would’ve enjoyed the firefly funhouse.... not good.

@sebastianvella8992

4 жыл бұрын

@Andy Parker I'm sorry for bursting the bubble of little boy Andy, but 'Time is on my side, oh yes it is...'

Thought personally it was a masterpiece Bray is a genius

@stevenhanna1434

4 жыл бұрын

@Zelos311 douche bag

@stevenhanna1434

4 жыл бұрын

@Mitchell Heath your fucking ridiculous

@jesuschrist9638

3 жыл бұрын

I forgive you for that statement

@stevenhanna1434

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesuschrist9638 let me guess your an AEW fan

@jesuschrist9638

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenhanna1434 Nope, I do not watch a bunch of outlaws perform a mud show fiasco on a weekly basis no. As Cornette would say.

I don't really agree with Jim here. I get it, he's old school and likes his wrestling a certain way........but when, in the last 25yrs, has WWE said they are a wrestling company? Yeah, the word is the name of the company, but that's as close as Vince wants it....and lets be honest, how many matches can we sit through and see over and over and over and over and over again? Everyone is entitled to enjoy what they want. To say this killed wrestling? Someone was actually killed during a WWE wrestling event....if anything would 'kill' the business it would have been that......or brawl for all...or whatever shit Russo put out there......Wrestling has been dead for a few decades, my man...

@JH-ij2nm

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Eble god damn look how smart you think you are😂 I disagree with him as well by why tf are you writing an essay for it😂

@alfieminto8972

4 жыл бұрын

@@JH-ij2nm Let a dude express his opinion, bro.

@JH-ij2nm

4 жыл бұрын

Alfie Minto I did, I just also expressed my opinion, bro.

@devinodriscoll

4 жыл бұрын

Alfie Minto He’s got you there.

why didnt they announce everyone 's temperature as they approached the ring?

@j.3o21

4 жыл бұрын

Weighing in at 253pounds, hailing from Portland, Oregon, a body temperature of 36.9c (Sorry don't know what's that in Fahrenheit, maybe around 92?)

@superdemonboy

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, did they??? That sounds so ridiculous but I really like it.

@showtimeman5673

4 жыл бұрын

@@j.3o21 he'd be in big trouble at -6.6 degrees body temp

@steviesmith4986

4 жыл бұрын

@@j.3o21 98.6F is normal

It was simple enough to understand. It was John Cena basically fighting himself and his failures and insecurities. Almost like it was a match in his nightmares. I got it, just didn't like it too much, but it was fine. I can see why people liked it and I can see why people hated it.

@curtissimmons2287

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they had, had a actual match after that Dream

@MikeM-np4od

4 жыл бұрын

@@curtissimmons2287 I feel ya. It just felt like a long promo.

@Voysh2Voysh69

4 жыл бұрын

If it was a long promo that led to a taped match inside the Performance Center, then it wouldn’t have been so bad. But much like the taped Broken Matt cinematic matches, and now the Boneyard match, these movie scene matches could lead to further dilution of pro wrestling. Hopefully live audiences don’t tolerate this and refuse to buy tickets on match cards that have pre-taped movie scene matches.

@irishpanic

4 жыл бұрын

I kinda liked it

@lavarball3641

4 жыл бұрын

Mike M also it foreshadowed wwe and bray Vince has a history of being out of touch and going with the muscular guy instead of giving new creatives like bray a push

Well people every one has there opinion. however, this skit was targeted to a specific crowd. Everyone including cornet that didn’t understand it, is so focused on the fact that they didn’t fight, or in Their words “that it didn’t make any sense”. But the fact is we’ve already seen John vs bray and we’ve already seen bray dominate a guy. We didn’t need to see them fight. However as I said it was targeted to certain people, people that have watched continually for years, including the years that John came out week after week and did the same thing over and over again. This wasn’t a match, this was a present or gift. Because for years now no one has been able to actually crack the system or expose John or the “typical wrestler” for what they really were, wether they realize it or not. Not only was it a gift, it was classic entertainment that we haven’t seen in an extremely long time. I mean I can’t be the only one who enjoyed going back in time not only through johns career but to wcw. This thing had it all, it made you laugh, it made you confused, it made you think, and finally scared you because of how true it was.

@franknieblas7804

4 жыл бұрын

“...and finally scared you because of how true it was.” Brilliant.

@liamcrossley9292

4 жыл бұрын

Too true, funny as fuck when Jim compares this 2 batman tho

@gkgyver

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was targeted to a specific crowd. A crowd of Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Bray Wyatt.

I kinda predicted what he would say about this but regardless of anyone's reaction to it, It is important to understand a simple fact. This nor the Boneyard match would have happened if the situation wasn't what it is. Considering the amount of matches that did actually happen, it made sense for them to do these two in this fashion. Title Matches have to be normal matches, but these matches had the 4 most over people on the roster in them. Doing these two differently, despite logical counterclaims, didn't hurt any of them. The Fiend is so over that they killed Seth's run to put him in a bigger spotlight. AJ is AJ. And Cena vs Taker squash match at WM34 still got the biggest pop of the night. Still tho, they wouldn't have happened if things went normally.

Jim: "this is the end of wrestling" Everyone watching this: mhmm mhmm yeah yeah go on

@TheSHIELDCap

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Bischoff himself said that the Firefly Funhouse and Boneyard matches gives him hope for the future of wrestling and how will they can be the catalysts of the next evolution of wrestling.

@akeminakajima449

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSHIELDCap Wow because it's really important what a TV executive thinks of the WRESTLING BUSINESS

@chr8985

4 жыл бұрын

@@akeminakajima449 The "tv executive" that beat WWE for 83 weeks.

@BeyondDaX

4 жыл бұрын

@@chr8985 To be fair the WWE was creatively bankrupted until after those weeks

@akeminakajima449

4 жыл бұрын

@@chr8985 Tony Khan beat WWE too does his opinion matter?

As a person that has been around pro wrestling virtually all his life, it is astonishing that Cornette could not follow the incredibly simple story that played out in the segment.

@broccolibeater

4 жыл бұрын

nah, his brain just shut down and he didnt even try

@mrreddick2633

4 жыл бұрын

What incredible story ??

@Charziken909

4 жыл бұрын

@Mauricio93201 It was about how wrestlers from the past had to have this huge body and manly character to become the star of the business. Bray is reminding cena how he couldve let bray become the next star because its what the fans wanted. In the end Cena didnt listen and tried to stop bray again with a steel chair. This time the Fiend defeated Cena and marked himself as the future star. U could tell the Fiend won because he was the last man standing and Cena vanished after being layed out in the ring.

@SplitGoose

4 жыл бұрын

Maceo, it was far too meta to be enjoyable. Sure it was interesting. But I'd have rather seen a smart fun match than a meta commentary over shitty cinematography and shitty costumes.

@ChrisKaliber

4 жыл бұрын

This was not pro wrestling. I don’t think you are looking at this with the same view. Go way back to the roots where two guys settle it in the ring. That’s all you have to do. Having a Hollywood, twin peaks, impossible scenario to tell your story isn’t wrestling.

When he goes “are you fucking ribbin?” I lost it😂😂😂Jim speaks to all of us

I knew immediately when I saw this, Cornette would hate it and I waited to hear what he'd say. I'm conflicted because I liked it but also want more serious wrestling at the same time

@cubah1

4 жыл бұрын

Corbin Macklin this is me all around. When yuh get a good serious wrestling match, it’s awesome. But I like comedy too. The hurricane was one of my favorites who I’m sure Jim hates for being “goofy”. Same thing with The New Day. Like then also, but they are “goofy” as hell. The New Day is over and have been for 5 years, but to Jim they are awful.

@thecadhouse3509

4 жыл бұрын

I mean. There's easily room for both. There's like 40 hours of WWE a week.

@cubah1

4 жыл бұрын

Wrestling like everything evolves, but Jim wants it to be the way it was on the 79s and 80s. With social media and podcasts, the vale has not only been peaked back, its Been ripped off. It can never go back to the way it was. Not to say that serious doesn’t work, because it does and always will

@corbinmacklin185

4 жыл бұрын

@@cubah1 I really hated when Kofi kept tossing pancakes as the world champion and then when he lost it it was all power of positivity instead of acting like any normal adult would who lost something they would like to get back

Nobody has ever said, "I used to watch wrestling...but I stopped because it was way to realistic". But plenty of people have said, "I used to watch wrestling...but I got away from it because it got too stupid". Sadly, nobody in a "major" promotion understands this...and the wrestling business is circling the commode as a result.

@brianmoatlhodi8444

4 жыл бұрын

Ain't that the truth!

@wieran35000vr

4 жыл бұрын

Many of my friends who I used to watch with stopped because it's just [First Name Last Name] vs [First Name Last Name]. So in a way, that's it becoming more "realistic" as well.

@zakunick1

4 жыл бұрын

Wieran Right? Too realistic can be too boring sometimes. (But that hasn’t been a problem in a long while)

@goldendovah7613

4 жыл бұрын

the attitude era was the epitome of stupid. Realistic is usually boring. Wrestling is scripted so it does not need to be stupid but fun and entertaining.

@radarlovedr

4 жыл бұрын

Yep.

This segment was literally the destruction of John Cena's character. It wasn't that hard to understand lol

@Yoshiinite

4 жыл бұрын

@Joe Greene Hm to each their own, I personally liked it, I prefer this over a 48 minute match full of no crowd and lots of moaning like Edge and Orton had lmao

@reallydude111

4 жыл бұрын

Yoshikai Nintendragon Then just stop watching professional wrestling, cause that segment was definitely not it. Yea Edge and Orton went on a little too long but still better than that shit.

@Yoshiinite

4 жыл бұрын

@@reallydude111 It wasn't it because it was a segment, clearly, it's like saying pro wrestling has to be all matches with no promos behind them. Did you really want a boring match with no crowd between these two? I certainly didn't, I rather have them save it for later when there can be a crowd, so having a story segment to further the rivalry is better for now.

@kliq11

4 жыл бұрын

@@reallydude111 You should stop watching cuz this kind of stuff is going to be all over the place now. You are going to lose the kind of wrestling you like and it's awesome. Lol

@Lobothemainman23

4 жыл бұрын

How is dressing up and playing around with Bray in a skit "The destruction of Cena's character?

“It doesn’t make any sense” It’s like going to see Avengers Endgame without seeing any other marvel movie and saying it doesn’t make any sense 20 min in. Bray has been building to that moment forever and Cena looked like he was having fun.

@the_spruuuuce1179

4 жыл бұрын

Itz Khalib hopefully then they could recognize it drew juggernaut money at the box office and not cause it’s some niche thing. People went in droves to see it and it was so good people went again.

Cornette describing the match had me in tears. I’m dying laughing over here.

We some “That ain’t the Wrestling business “! T shirts 👕

"Wrestling fans discover movies: they're apparently great"

@That_Guy-

4 жыл бұрын

Hipster smark:"Roddy piper and John carpenter where the originators of this style of wrestling"

@franz8072

4 жыл бұрын

I personaly enjoyed both boneyard and firefly funhouse. They were entertaining "movies" but that shit should never be the climax of a wrestling feud. It's like screaming out loud cinema is far superior to what our athltes can do in the ring, therefor, wrestling is not worth watching nor producing.

@franz8072

4 жыл бұрын

@John Volken Idc anymore. He can do as he pleases.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 waiting for this since the match ended😂😂😂

"You can look, but you can't touchhhh"

@jasonkraatz5968

4 жыл бұрын

That line by Bray would have made everyone pop. It was hilarious.

@Jibarra411

4 жыл бұрын

that was so funny

@gir3009

4 жыл бұрын

"That's some good shit!" -Vince McMahon Puppet

I just watched it . I thought it was a promo for the actual match lol

@brianmoatlhodi8444

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh!!

@eLiFILMSinc

4 жыл бұрын

It was but the match happened 6 years ago

MLW and NWA are still very mature and reliable options.

Jim doesn’t get why most fans enjoyed this in 2020, water is wet

@Dave_ja_vu

4 жыл бұрын

@Mitchell Heath the comments here do not speak for everyone in the wrestling community.

@billybadass3056

4 жыл бұрын

@Mitchell Heath I know after yrs of not watching, for VERY GOOD REASON, I tried watching that horse shit I stopped right after that first women match.... I felt if this is the show now then I'm done ALL Together with this puke.. Later wwe I promise you u WON'T be missed.

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dave_ja_vu Point being people 'like it' because it's cool to mark out over it. I didn't mind it. But it wasn't a match. It's seemingly enjoyable as a segment, quite grotesque. However people add shittonnes of ideology to what really is just a vignette taking the piss out of the past is something a bit counterintuitive given this is the same crowd who would cheer Rock or Austin or whichever attitude era wrestler if they came back permanently.

@Dave_ja_vu

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriss790 nostalgia is a huge draw, and played a huge factor in people's enjoyment of that segment. You're right tho, I wouldn't class it as a match either.

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dave_ja_vu Nostalgia is a draw only when the past product was good. I mean, kids will not be getting nostalgic about Seth Rollins or Kevin Owens, or this series of stupid Fiend feuds without meaning. Will they?

I didn't get it at first either, but it did have a meaning. The fiend beat John Cena by getting in his mind & exposing his fears & insecurities about his career. It was thought he couldn't turn heel, so the NWO Cena is a "what if" , had he took the heel path Hogan did. His willingness to play it safe & not take chances to secure his spot at the top. His failed rap career & so on. Whether it's good acting, wrestling or everyone's cup of sports entertainment tea is an entirely separate debate

@anthonynorman7545

4 жыл бұрын

+

@maverickr.3433

4 жыл бұрын

The whole match was like a Freddy Krugger killing. He took over John and made him face his tribulations and made him face his demons while the Fiend is always in control. And yes the nwo part is like what if Cena turned heel. And like Freddy Krugger he killed his prey at the end... it was the best match ever in wrestlemania

@LoudFlimzz

4 жыл бұрын

just the amount of thought and detail that was in it. You literally have to watch it 3 times to catch everything, and it gets better every time.

@brettperry3737

4 жыл бұрын

I about hit the floor when I heard the CM Punk chants during that one scene.

@LoudFlimzz

4 жыл бұрын

@@brettperry3737 for me it was Bray singinging "you can look but you cant touch." 😂😂😂

Sometimes it's fun to listen to an old man yell at clouds.

@BrotherNero777

4 жыл бұрын

and for his sidekick to yell right beside him

@bookmark7859

4 жыл бұрын

I know. Vince McMahon has been yelling at clouds for at least 30 years, thinking he's impressing people with this crap. And Bruce "The Parrot" Pritchard falls right in tune with him. And all the little marks fall right in line, as if a Pied Piper is calling them...

@DeusExCanis

4 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if that's bad sarcasm... I thought the Funhouse match was amazing, but I also love Orange Cassidy, when Kenny wrestled that little girl, and think everyone is entitled to their own tastes.

This is why you don’t cater to “casuals” idiots who don’t get “it” because you lose sight of what made the product attractive in the first place. But most people don’t get that.

They are telling the Bray storyline. Listen to what he end at the end. He repeated what he said about Bray on Friday. That Cena was overhyped etc. It's storytelling and I thank WWE for taking our mind off things.

@Dontwanthe24

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks wwe for this below sub par product

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

Telling a story without actually WRESTLING isn't WRESTLING. And this was a straight up parody and people think things don't get better than this. What has Wyatt actually done? Other than crawl from under rings and record a bunch of shit in front of camera? This was just fans eating up visual cues about something they already knew from a guy who excels at presentation without simulating conflict.

@therealoddballz7114

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriss790 Ok you got a point 😉If you don't like it stop watching it🤷🏻‍♀️

@Dontwanthe24

4 жыл бұрын

chriss790 it’s so bad that I can’t believe I believed in them

@chriss790

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealoddballz7114 Trust me, I am not. All I know is that every other SmackDown dude does a promo from the tron without actually getting in the ring more than twice a feud. So long as he does it without being treated like a serious champ material I have no real problem with it. Otherwise it's like every other criticism and as a viewer I don't like the product.

the wrestling/Sports Entertainment has left Jim Cornette behind. How did you not get what was going on. Bray Wyatt literally said John Cena worst enemy is John Cena. the wcw nitro segment was John Cena turning heel like the fans always wanted him but he never did. and Bray wyatt deleted John Cena from the WWE. Jim just wants two big men slapping meat. also you guys forget Matt hardy and Bray wyatt were a tag team and they literally come from the same universe

@ReDav1s87

4 жыл бұрын

Bro I hear you. Im with jim on alot of things but how did anyone hate this. I bet you bottom dollar motherfuckers were cheering this untill they realized its still cool to hate vince. So dumb. I'm excited again for this character. It was getting BORING IN THE RING.

@mr.x9566

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think Wrestling/Sports Entertainment has left Jim behind. (mainstream American) Wrestling as he and many others know it, has been molested beyond recognition. I'm guessing Jim (like lots of others) prefers wrestling to resemble a sport, with an element of competition. Although pre-determined at the turn of the 20th century, wresting and its premice, largely stayed the same for about 70-80yrs. Many sports have hardly changed at all since their inception. Wrestling has pandered to its audience and insulted the purist fans.

@FMITB

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but I also think the nWo was a jab at Cena being the Hulk Hogan of this generation - almost always going over people who were more talented

@Jibarra411

4 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Haynes lol talent is 100x better in the ring today.

The "match" was great. The only highlight they missed was Cena's greatest sin. Super Cena buries the Nexus and Wade Barrett.

@emperorjoker9240

4 жыл бұрын

Odinson42 I think him punching on the pig where it showed all the highlights of him losing to his former rivals was meant to count as the nexus too.

@amitkale4624

4 жыл бұрын

There was a point during which Cena slipped on the nexus armband thing. It wasn't highlighted, but included. There's so much stuff in that match that Easter eggs like that are so easy to miss lol. It was exceptional.

@DonaldLump

4 жыл бұрын

@@amitkale4624 I missed that. When did he slip on the nexus armband??

@amitkale4624

4 жыл бұрын

@@DonaldLump I don't remember exactly when. Wrestletalk made a video recapping the match and listing all Easter Eggs. Maybe check there? Hope that helps.

@amitkale4624

4 жыл бұрын

@@DonaldLump Hey, my bad. It wasn't in the match itself, but in the hype package for the match. I mixed those two up in my mind.

Sometimes Jim Cornette makes himself look really stupid when he’s attempting to seem smart

@leonardohenriquez7814

4 жыл бұрын

Rell Simmons yep

@Roodsteam

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder what a good Show in his mind would look like

@leonardohenriquez7814

4 жыл бұрын

Roodsteam Big Sweaty men slapping meat! His spank bank material

@kalenwalker755

4 жыл бұрын

Rell Simmons exactly, it wouldn’t make since you the everyday watcher, but for someone whose so invested in the industry should be able to comprehend exactly what the match was trying to get a crossed

@evanh.6097

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This guy said that Keith lee, who’s been doing this for 15 years, is green🤣🤣

"Turn out the lights the party's over" in the Slick singing voice

WWE is finally presenting the product they’ve always wanted. No fans, no rings, no wrestling.

@kamfisher1714

4 жыл бұрын

Cole S They presented that because they had no crowd, it was unique and creative and something people back in the 80s wouldn’t have thought because they still live in 1978

@joehilner4830

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamfisher1714 oh, we thought of it, and when we wanted to see it we went to the movies. We tuned into wrestling to see fights.

@captainburble86

4 жыл бұрын

Kam Fisher what in the fuck are you talking about . We want professional wrestling not Hollywood movies

@cobrakaiisback4709

4 жыл бұрын

@Joe Greene Wrestling ratings peaked in the attitude era when shitstain aka vince russo was doing his creative genius. Monday night raw had nothing but wrestling this week and it was mostly hated online.

@maxxdahl6062

4 жыл бұрын

@@cobrakaiisback4709 You need to lay off the purple micro dot. It was more popular in the 70's and 80's. You know when there were more companies, a healthier pro wrestling economy, more people employed in the actual wrestling business, and you know, more fans.

"WHAT WAS THAT?"........ here we go

This was the best match in wrestlemania history

@CornyJimDriveThru Hey Jim, I was watching some of your promos of the Glory days and wanted to know who was your inspiration as a kid doing promos? I would like to look them up and see thank you and have a nice day be safe

I watched Mania with casuals. They loved Taker AJ, and everyone was like wtf when they saw the funhouse shit.

@irishpanic

4 жыл бұрын

Casuals wouldn't get it coz there was a lot of references from the past

@lzi9452

4 жыл бұрын

Guy it’s weird and something I’ve never seen it means I hate it

@gorouw2534

4 жыл бұрын

Guy They just wanna see bland boring wrestling

@steveomac385

4 жыл бұрын

@@gorouw2534 you thought the boneyard match was bland and boring?

@leerobbo92

4 жыл бұрын

The Boneyard match was like a homage to 80's action/horror movies. Who doesn't love outdated 80's action movies? They're endearingly serious and cheesy, entertaining as hell, and it even had the older, much loved star that everyone knows playing the hero. The Funhouse match was like David Lynch and Taika Waititi lighting up and making an abstract commentary on wrestling together. Not everyone's going to "get it".

When Corny says "this is not wrestling business", when Ted Turner bought WcW he called Vince and said: "Vince I am now also in the wrestling business" Vince replied: "then we are in two different businesses, bcs im in the entertinment business". I cant say, I was entertained, which is not always the case with WWE lately.

@Spoeism

4 жыл бұрын

Awww the worshipper at the alter is quoting scripture.

@Cobralalalala

4 жыл бұрын

As much as Vince looks down on the thing that made him rich and doesn't want to admit it, he's in the wrestling business and always has been.

@thnzxc

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cobralalalala 👏👏👏👏👏

@grimmnekrokvlt

4 жыл бұрын

World WRESTLING Entertainment, I was entertained but I don't think I was suppose to be laughing my ass off the entire time I watched that abomination.

@Hulkamania4eva

4 жыл бұрын

They are not two different things dumbass. Wrestling is a form of entertainment. It is like THe Office but a sport not a documentary.

I thought for sure that Jim would like this.

@DownClownTownFrown

4 жыл бұрын

I know, weird right? Seemed like it was right up his ally.

@wozthescott2804

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@kevinjackson1275

4 жыл бұрын

Skum 5 stars, would be 7 stars if Kenny Olivier was involved

@skum73

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinjackson1275 Only if it was at the Tokyo Dome

@jackdaone6469

3 жыл бұрын

Me, too. Yeah, it was a match in the ring in the strictest sense. But there was nothing short of incredible wrestling psychology on the level of Jake Roberts in his prime in that match. For me, the Firefly Funhouse match was like the time Jake sicced his King Cobra on Macho Main on the Main Event. That’s what made it awesome.

That thing was literally Hulk Hogan embracing his dark side in wcw.

I respect the hell out of jim and think that he is a very smart individual, but I don’t neccessarily believe stuff like this is driving people away. It’s inconstancy and characters that have no goals outside of win titles that causes this imo and it kills fan investment. Me and about 4 other non wreslting fans watched the funhouse match and they got a kick out of it. The business is evolving and in some respects it’s not progressing in the right direction but I don’t think highly popular guys like bray Wyatt are killing the business. Def not for everyone but a majority of wreslting fans like Wyatt and Hardy

@bigroaststyrone8135

4 жыл бұрын

I do also somewhat disagree with Corny, but I do believe that he’s right in that the business is dying

@dickbicycle9304

4 жыл бұрын

Buck274 They got a kick out of it like someone would get a kick out of watching a clown juggle. After that, nobody thinks of that clown again. Like someone said; nobody has ever said they stopped watching wrestling because it got too real. I’ve even revelry saw a meme with 200k plus likes of a silly wrestling match captioned “this is why I stopped watching wrestling”

@FishJesus420

4 жыл бұрын

Dick Bicycle nah, they just thought the concept was cool and said it was the best part of mania. “Getting a kick out of it” might have been bad phrasing on my part but they thoroughly enjoyed it because of how different it was and how interesting of a character bray Wyatt is. And it’s not like orange Cassidys bull imo. It’s not silly, it actually has depth and meaning to it. It’s not outright meant to be funny, entertaining yes, but it wasn’t a comedy show.

@FishJesus420

4 жыл бұрын

Dick Bicycle he also beat John cena who is currently the most famous man in wrestling whether fans want to admit or not and Wyatt may have just ended him so people are definitely gonna think of bray after the fact. If the clown doesn’t juggle and murders the main act of the circus instead, people are gonna think of the clown

@FishJesus420

4 жыл бұрын

Big Roasts Tyrone oh yeah the business is certainly dying. The people that say wrestling is hotter than it has ever been are just wrong. Maybe amongst hardcore fans but mainstream wise, def not

Amazing imo. Bray took him on a journey. John thinks he made himself what he is today and Bray made him realise that he isn't the hero he thinks he is. He's the bad guy and has been all along. Hes just another Hogan. Selling the merch and being the top guy, no matter who he stepped on. It broke Cena at the end when he realised it was all true and he let the Fiend in.

@theboxingboy7422

4 жыл бұрын

Theres no point trying to explain it wasn't a serious wrestling match so Jim ain't gonna like or understand it

@grim9467

4 жыл бұрын

@@theboxingboy7422 but its fucking stupid.

@jasonkraatz5968

4 жыл бұрын

Now that you put it like that, the whole match made sense. And with that story behind it, I think the match was amazing! As twisted as it was, I'm sure folks enjoyed it more than the rest of the show. Other than the Boneyard Match and Last Man Standing.

@philtll

4 жыл бұрын

I got the bit, the bit just sucked. It was like a rejected Tim & Eric sketch crossed with a rejected Supernatural story.

@Gutslinger

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch the match, but this comment made it sound palatable, until the last sentence. 🤮