Jim Cornette on Tommy Rich's career after Georgia
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Tommy Rich is severely underrated and underappreciated.
I saw Buzz Sawyer belly to belly Tommy Rich (Buzz's signature move) on the concrete floor of the Wheeling, WV Civic Center circa idk 1984ish. It was shocking. The whole audience gasped. I hated Tommy Rich but that ol boy could take a bump!
@mdhotstuff
3 жыл бұрын
im amazed they allowed that to happen
@tonyh1718
3 жыл бұрын
Buzz piledrove rich on concrete in cincinnati
"Jesus Christ what is this, his Wikipedia page??" :D
Tommy Rich deserves a lot more credit than he gets. Certainly more than Puke Hogan. As I recall from my youth, he even beat the "Pukester" several times. He was my first favorite wrestler, & I still have fond memories of him today. I was in Augusta GA. the night he beat Harley Race for the N.W.A. title, & I was there for the Last Battle of Atlanta against Buzz Sawyer. One of the all time great baby faces. He wasn't bad as a heel either.
@kevinpayton2664
4 жыл бұрын
I think that he was a better heel than as a face.
@Lewis9709
3 жыл бұрын
But could he beat the Pukester in a pose down? 😄
@dominicalberto2179
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lewis9709 No
@matthewgabbard6415
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinpayton2664 I agree, especially in Memphis
@kevinpayton2664
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewgabbard6415 Exactly
I remember when he went to the AWA in '88. He had a feud with Adrian Adonis.
@VolumedMusicMan
5 жыл бұрын
That’s ironic that both guys used to be in good shape before they let their phisiques go. Adrian used to be a power lifter..
Back circa 1987 I would have liked to see Tommy “Wildfire” Rich teamed up with Jimmy “Boogie Woogie Man” Valiant.
After hearing this, it’s weird thinking I’ll always remember him for his time in ECW.
@tonyh1718
3 жыл бұрын
you werent around for his earlier runs then
@RichardBond-dn2fi
5 күн бұрын
Them Full Blooded Italians! Tommy Rich? What a joke.
Whichever town had the skankiest ring rats, thats where Tommy went.
The scene changed.
Tommy was a great worker.
After the Last Battle of Atlanta, I didn't think he really hit his stride again until his FBI work in ECW.
On November 7, 1981 Tommy Rich went on the Superstation and declared that Dusty Rhodes was a friend of his. A week earlier on November 1, 1981 Rhodes attacked Gary Hart just before his scheduled match with Ric Flair, and became the Great Kabuki came to the defense of his manager, Gary Hart, Dusty Rhodes was unable to fulfill his contractual obligation. Tommy Rich then took Rhodes' place and competed against Ric Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. A few years later when Rhodes was booker for Crockett he refused to hire Tommy Rich, showing what kind of friend Rhodes actually was.
"New Coke, Fake Diesel"
I was there in Louisville for that! It was awesome 👏
Tommy Rich was very over in Georgia, but that was it. Maybe Memphis, but other than that, Tommy was the embodiment of a regional talent. Turner was trying to go national and compete with Vince. It wouldn't have worked.
@eclecticx
3 жыл бұрын
Rich was all the rage where I was and I was nowhere near GA or TN. Turner's underestimation of Rich's popularity was a huge misjudgment. That said, had Rich taken care of himself and worked out, he'd have been huge.
WWF fan who discovered GCW when we got cable. There was nothing like that territory in that early 80s. Tommy was the ultimate baby face. He has to be in the mount Rushmore of baby faces. Fans loved him and the heel feuds were legendary
Tommy went so far so fast that it was impossible to top. And of course his drinking. He was that good though. It’s to bad.
After Georgia, Rich spent most of his time in Memphis. Also had a run in WCW, the dying days of Smoky Mountain, and appeared on ESPN with the AWA in 1987.
@Fnoel98356
4 жыл бұрын
I remember Rich also in AWA. He feuded with Adrian Adonis if my memory serves me correctly.
@mdhotstuff
3 жыл бұрын
ya left out a lot.... Continental - WWC - Japan - ECW .............
Rich peaked with the Sawyer feud IMO.
@cretinousjester3475
6 жыл бұрын
That and the work he did with Lawler, Idol, and Heyman in Memphis. In my opinion those were his best years.
@brainspin7518
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Although I thought the fued between he and Ted "before I became a millionaire" dibiase was good too (the whole masked Mr. R angle)....But never really played out long enough unfortunately.
@kevinpayton2664
4 жыл бұрын
@@cretinousjester3475 He and Austin Idol got major heat after Jerry Lawler lost his hair.
Tommy Comes Home was a great promo
In my opinion, Tommy's last good feud was with Masked Superstar. I don't think that Buzz Sawyer and he were good influences on each other. He got really fat there for a long time and couldn't move nearly as well as he had. He seemed to come out of that off and on. He really looked pretty damned good in the final days of Smoky Mountain. Catching lightning in a bottle once is hard enough being able to do it again isn't always possible.
@VincentOfDreamhouse
6 жыл бұрын
You are so right and I will take it a little further by saying it was not only his best feud but it was one of the best feuds ever. For me personally there was Rich/Superstar and then there was Flair Steamboat 70's version as my two favorite feuds. Terry Funk and Dusty was pretty awesome too...
@Oldguitar57
4 жыл бұрын
Tommy could take a bump. Buzz belly to bellied him on the concrete floor of the Wheeling Civic Center. It sounded so horrible the whole audience gasped and covered their mouths!
Sad to see Tommy working wrestling in front of 50 people.
I only remember him when he was at Georgia Championship Wrestling.
Tommy must have weighed 180 and was billed at 220.
That's not true! Ricky Morton is still a teen idol.
you can tell it takes Jim by shock that people are this well schooled in his business you can tell he is shocked and its one of enjoyment
@cretinousjester3475
6 жыл бұрын
Jim's said this and that before but he does seem to be willing to stand with those he counts as true wrestling fans.
I wouldn’t say Dusty stood in Rich’s way, but he did ALWAYS put himself first. If he wasn’t alone in the top spot, he would attach himself in some way to whoever was and it wasn’t always best for the business.
@VolumedMusicMan
5 жыл бұрын
84sp84 They were Dick Murdoch, Magnum, Manny Fernandez, Dick Slater, Barry Windham, and Nikita Koloff are just some of the stars that Virgil sunk his claws into to get that extra personal push...
@brainspin7518
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an old triple h quote...."whats best for business" lol. But a true statement none the less.
Tommy Rich was a fixture in southern wrestling. The Fabs with Tommy and Eddie flopped. The head heal team would I liked Tommy Rich and Buddy Landel were great and they should have been the original Fabulous Ones
Some one say something bout fired up!!
In his Memphis career he was really over. He was a big draw when he came there.
Tommy also wrestled for Dick the Bruiser WWA promotion along with Scott Steiner
His run as a tag team with Doug Gilbert was fun.
This proving my theory that a large, silent segment of the old wrestling audience were gay. That’s not a joke either. The wrestling magazines were a source of gay literature before they could legally be out in the open. It used to be all winks and nods and implications. A lot of old liquor ads are like that too
Tommy Rich is a tale that should be told to children as a warning.
He also was in Dick The Bruiser WWA when it went to Toledo.
I thought that the Tommy Rich and Buzz Sawyer feud was great as a little kid , I was rooting for Buzz. I saw Buzz belly to belly Tommy in the concrete floor in Wheeling and that kept kayfabe going for me for another year.
I was so fortunate to move from WWWF MA to DE in the early 80s and got access to GCW - He was the hottest thing there and just like Dusty in Florida, he was fed a constant flow of villains by the promoter. Another wrestler who was better as a big fish in a small pond. He was a main eventer in Continental, Memphis, TWA, SMW - I know he was part of the FBI in ECW but I have yet to see that run. Plus he took bookings in WWC and SCW. Oh yeah and a AWA run - He had a great career and thank god he never went to WWF - they probably woulda made him the Albino Rat
Tommy Rich is a great example of a territorial star. At the time if his peak , ya had others like Wild Cat Wendell Cooley, Nightmare Danny Davis , Gino Hernandez , and other really great talents that were huge in their respective territories but never had any recognition nationally . Tommy was missing or lacking a few things to really get over on a bigger stage.
@tonyh1718
3 жыл бұрын
at the time of his peak, there was no national
Is this his Wikipedia page??!! 😂😂
should be a WWE HOFer
@ronaldadkins6762
5 жыл бұрын
David Hamilton Tommy Rich should be a Hall of Famer period he is a former N.W.A. World Heavyweight Champion!
I watched The Last Battle of Atlanta Steel Cage Match on You Tube it was so brutal and bloody. Hardly either one looked like a winner both Tommy and Buzz Sawyer looked like they went through a meat grinder and cheese grater
@tonyh1718
3 жыл бұрын
their only complete match on film and it was tame and short by their standards
@gregorylevi1826
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyh1718 IT WAS!? 😱😳
fbi.
Rich was as hot as JYD
He worked for the FBI
Tommy was over Dusty on every platform. Wtf is Jim smoking?
@mdhotstuff
3 жыл бұрын
I guarantee you that in any pro wrestling poll - Dusty will rank way higher then Wildfire
@gregorylevi1826
3 жыл бұрын
Not in 85 or after he wasn't
@kevindouglas5333
Жыл бұрын
Tommy Rich didn't matter after 83
I watched Tommy Rich back in the day. I thought he was ok but definitely not a top guy. He was another bleached blonde with little charisma.
@chrischar9428
3 жыл бұрын
Little charisma Holy fucking shit
Tommy rich is gross.