Jim Cornette on The Motivation For Outlaw Garbage Wrestlers
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From Episode 460 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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This clip was gold for laughs. “Beholden to the H.” 😂 “Did Y2K scare you?” - “Fuck Jericho!”😂
I'm reminded of Mick Foley's first book where he talks about giving up prescription pain meds after the first time because he realized it was a dangerous path to go down.
@TheFailedmessiah
Жыл бұрын
But at the same time it gave us perc angle.
@Ted_Bell
Жыл бұрын
Yet he chose the fall off everything path.
@daviddzwonkowski4722
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFailedmessiah and may we take this time to thank god for Kurt off a perc
@xylsky1300
Жыл бұрын
@@Ted_Bell lmao 🤣😆
@miked9112
Жыл бұрын
Ah mick the original garbage wrassler
As a recovering addict, I can’t tell you ABSOLUTELY YES! It has had to at least passed through their minds, “this is another way for me to score something legally”. I know that if I was a wrestler and I was an addict, the way I was addicted to pain pills, I would’ve done almost anything to get those pills!
@wallyhavoc860
10 ай бұрын
It's a rough road to go down, speaking from experience myself. There wasn't much of anything I wouldn't do just shy of robbing/killing some or "performing favors." GoFundMe wasn't around during my time with opiates, and that's probably a really good thing. Hahaha
@CheffBoyarBitch
7 ай бұрын
Hey brother real talk that's incredible what you have done. If no one else tells you this today, you are a role model for having done your dance with the devil, lived, and grew from it. Respect man
@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105
6 ай бұрын
And if they weren't addicted before they started, they sure will be when they're done.
Just to remind everyone that the wrestler's name is G-Raver. Grover is just what Jim calls him. See also: Jade "Jane" Cargill and Megha "Megan" Parekh.
@nickhughes8179
Жыл бұрын
Kenny Olivier is Twinkletoes
@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154
Жыл бұрын
@@nickhughes8179 - I know that.
@EwanCumia
8 ай бұрын
He's still a muppet.
@Rjensen2
6 күн бұрын
I seriously doubt anyone cares what their names are. 😂
14:15 Brian: "Were you afraid of Y2K?" Corny: "Fuck Jericho!" OMG 🤣🤣🤣 my eyes are watering from laughing so hard!!
G-Raver in his last match was about to shove a series of open scissors into his abdomen. Yeah, that caused the other guy to quit, but WTF if he had slipped and fell into him, or been so spaced out he freckin did it? Those morons are a whisker from a real death in the ring.
Axl Rose is from Lafayette. Mr Brownstone is named after the place he used to buy his heroin. The Brownstone apartments are still there on Purdue's campus.
@psychobluesfxt
Жыл бұрын
I hope it at least makes it to stand tunes at football and basketball games.
@spanky9676
Жыл бұрын
Now I get up around whenever. I used to get up on time.
@sheepdavis
4 ай бұрын
Brownstone is a reference to the drug. Not apartments.
"He snorted his Go Fund Me" hahaha
They have no motivation. They just have a sad, morbid need to hurt themselves for real in front of nobody, for nothing.
Opiate addiction is no joke and serious business. I empathize with anyone that's fighting that demon. He's not doing the pain medicine because of the wrestling. He's doing the wrestling to amplify the reasons to get the drugs. Addicts have all kinds of excuses. I know this better than anyone.
@Maggot39967
11 ай бұрын
Yeah fighting it myself and it's hell any way you look at it. I hope you're doing good and recovering or at least getting control of your demons.
My God. At the 2:20 mark when Jim said, "Have them beholden to the H", I had to pull over to the side of the road b/c I was laughing so hard. 🤣🤣🤣😂
I remember reading that a few "wrestlers" in czw got paid in pills
@outstretchedwings
Жыл бұрын
That was a different deathmatch promotion. And even John Zandig said that the guy who ran that promotion said he was a scumbag.
@cishansen4162
8 ай бұрын
that was IWA Mid South. Ian Rotten gave pills to JC Bailey as payment apparently
I laughed so hard for a few minutes when I saw Travis's artwork for this video. Grover the Outlaw Wrestler lol
@jesuszamora6949
Жыл бұрын
The powder on the nose really brings the message home.
@jesuszamora6949
Жыл бұрын
@Pugna. Found the Grover fan.
@nathangillispie51
Жыл бұрын
What did Travis do to you, lol?
Travis strikes again!!🤡 Even Mick has said light tubes are as dangerous as hell. They explode with glass fragments and other garbage.
14:15 Cornette's delivery on that was perfect LOL
@aaronholman8288
Жыл бұрын
"I could stretch him" 😂😂😂
@aliciasimmons8473
Жыл бұрын
Lmao yes that was perfect love Jim! 🤣
Brian just lagging himself in.. "I was more into uppers" 😅
@royalty843
Жыл бұрын
I share his sentiment
@justanotherguy4202
Жыл бұрын
The fda did a 20 year study a $20 of pure snow a day is no different than drinking a 6 pack of beer.
@hervederinel262
Жыл бұрын
@@justanotherguy4202 It's hard to enjoy though.
@northleedspoppa
Жыл бұрын
@@justanotherguy4202 yep shame there is no pure in the country or Indeed in the Americas Heroin pure isn't 'that'bad ...it's just pure doesn't really exist
Heroine is what people turn to when they can no longer afford prescription opiates. Heroine is cut with baby laxative and I've even seen talcum powder. The opiates you get from the pharmacy is much purer than what you get on the corner and that's part of how people get hooked. You get addicted to the prescription but when it runs out, you can't easily get more. Then you seek outside and it's not as pure or strong. You're constantly chasing a high and it drains you financially, mentally, physically and you're just a shell of your former self.
@gayrambo4529
Жыл бұрын
The Wire described what you mentioned as "stepped on trash"
@youtubebannedme4207
Жыл бұрын
depends on where you get it. I knew a guy that used to get china white that was pure enough to snort or smoke. I guarantee you that was better than any pill you were gonna get.
@KOHoxton
Жыл бұрын
You also get physically ill during withdrawal, watched a friend go through it as he was getting off it.
@joemixon834
Жыл бұрын
Actually they shooting up Fentanyl way more than heroin and it's doing far more damage.
@Everson33
Жыл бұрын
A person's relationship to h, were they to have one, is generally much more complex than that. N b4 u give a sermon, spell heroin. Smh.
Brian: "Will you afraid of Y2k?" Jim: "Fuck Jericho" Lol 😂
I totally popped for the Mr. Brownstone reference.
It’s validation. That simple. These folks are from the fringes of society, and don’t have much as far as self-esteem goes. How else do you explain taking a light tube to the face?
@themaskedmark92
Жыл бұрын
This can be a valid point,gcw has started marketing itself as a little promotion with the heart of gold,a place where the rejects are accepted and since 2021 and while i like the idea i think it s bullshit since they mostly do freakin deathmatches
GG Allin would have been an outlaw garbage wrestler today
Indiana resident here, Axl Rose was from Lafayette, IN. I've read that the cheaper drugs are actually mrore expensive. The reasoing being that while it may be $5-10 to buy, a person has to buy so much just for maintanance and ends up spending more.
In his biography, Miles Davis was on his dad’s farm in a separate house with an upstairs trying to kick heroin and he said he was going to jump out the window to die and stop the pain but was worried about if he survived how much worked he would fell so he didn’t do it. That’s all I needed to know.
@skinhead-ej8ff
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about your unrelated anecdote
@goodday2760
Жыл бұрын
Nobody likes to fell worked.
A drug, in society, becomes more illicit based upon it's affordability and the punch it packs, per cost. Heroin is so taboo, or illicit, because it does both quite well; the danger for users: availability and the drive to essentially sell their souls for it. Enough people, then society as a whole also suffers.
I use to enjoy watching deathmatch wrestling back in the early 2000s but I grew up and the whole things is fucking gross and sad
@heydudedolfan13
13 күн бұрын
Shock value wanes. I'm a huge fan of true crime books, I'm a huge fan of horror films. Extreme Wrestling serves no purpose none.
heroin is dirt cheap. i have an uncle who does it and he pays $5-$10 a bag and bags are tiny its enough to fit in a teaspoon. people who do pills, smoke weed,drink alcohol pay more.
I'm glad he finally got around to the fact that it's not just deathmatch wrestler. It's the wrestling industry in general.
@Jukeboksi
5 ай бұрын
Yup: cocaine, steroids, alcohol, opioids, from top to bottom
This talk makes me so glad I’ve been straight-edge since I was a teenager.
@dcmans2122
11 ай бұрын
Cm punk would be proud
@Jukeboksi
5 ай бұрын
Somehow I found CM Punk as a teenager and became a fan and adopted the sXe style, lol. Prob a better path than pain pills, dunno
Motivation? Maybe being born in the late 90s and early 2000s and only catching the final few years of ECW and TNA. They think that's what wrestling is. Lame, low budget skits and people doing stupid stunts. Early ECW, except for going too far, was terrific. The realism was great. But as time went on, they lost their talent to the big companies and were left with guys who were just glorified stunt doubles, and that's who these kids coming up want to be. Not wrestlers. Reality show stars and stunt doubles, like the people they grew up watching.
@ameliastencil6058
Жыл бұрын
Well said 👍
@patrickboian8545
Жыл бұрын
TNA was actually good for a long time.
Heroin is exceedingly cheap..because it's mass manufactured fentayl from China.
From heroin to that manscape promo 🤣🤣🤣 holy hell
"Ian Rotten should have done a run in" - Jim Cornette
I'm glad Jim doesn't know heroin is cheap. It became common knowledge in my area after lots of pain pill addicts jumped to heroin since heroin is way cheaper. This lead to a lot of deaths since dealers would cut their supply with any powder that was similar in look and density.
14:14 -Were you afraid of Y2K? *deep silence* -FUCK JERICHO! I CAN STRETCH HIM! GOLDEN. JUST GOLDEN 🤣
What does this say about Moxley wanting to get involved in that scene, and supposedly having a contract to keep him away from appearing at those events, when around the same time he was booking himself into rehab - was it really just drink? Or does he have a history we don't know about, that he was maybe in danger of slipping back into?
Jim why the heck does so much of your fans know about the costs of heroin???
@michaelmfwayne
Жыл бұрын
Maybe because most of Jim's audience had their heyday during the 80s which was basically heroin and cocaine out the wazoo.
Groucho Marx would have said "The secret [phrase] today is "white trash." "It's a common thing found around the indy wrestling ring."
That would be mostly fentanyl very little heroin heroin is insanely expensive it can’t be synthesized cheaply thus using fentanyl as 95% of opium comes from Afghanistan hard if not impossible to get.
WE'VE BEEN DANCING WITH MR. CORNETTE
You lost me once Corny started talking about his manscaping.
Sadly, this is why you can’t give an addict money. All those people who cared about his medical bills enough to donate almost inadvertently killed him with their generosity.
@Ryanonfire03
Жыл бұрын
“You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themslef.”
@patrickboian8545
Жыл бұрын
Yep my cousin was like that for a long time.
@themadviking5746
Жыл бұрын
Who is he talking bout ?
This makes sense .... I totally couldn't understand why people do this .. I get being hardcore to an extent but I just saw a dude take a weed whacker to the damn stomach .. whyyyyy!!!!
@insupportofjunhado
Жыл бұрын
Recently, or back when Nick Mondo did it? If it was Mondo's that case then it wasn't being a drug addict, Mondo really was a lunatic trying to prove he was that hardcore. Depression somehow played a role, getting CZW "on the map" apparently helped him overcome his depression, but once he was in a better place mentally he realized he was going to die and retired from wrestling altogether.
Least dangerous Jon Moxley idol
I asked Neil Diamond Cutter (looks like a Deathmatch Spike Dudley) he said : “The Money.” I was like “SUUUUURRRREEEE!” Lol
@smoothplezing
Жыл бұрын
It's true to some extent. He'd likely make five times more for a death match than a normal match.
@ThrashAD720
Жыл бұрын
@@smoothplezing Certain Deathmatch wrestler can work Deathmatches and also normal matches so it means they are gonna get booked more.
@smoothplezing
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrashAD720 for sure. They all generally make more for death matches though. Tons of them wrestle normal matches all the time.
@ThrashAD720
Жыл бұрын
@@smoothplezing Yea but it depends on that person cause if he's good then he's gonna get booked at almost every promotion in North America and also Europe.
Jim singing Guns 'n' Roses has made my day
@scrappy93
Жыл бұрын
🤦🏿♂️
I assume one becomes a death match wrestler because the 7/11 down the street already got robbed.
Dude snorted those bags trying to avoid charges. He was trafficking or muling, probably a habitual user either way, was getting pulled over and tried to get as much H gone as he could. Less weight/bag count = lower charges. He knew he'd overdose, but had a pretty good certainty of a narcan rez with the cops on his ass and took the risk.
@JohnKobaRuddy
Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt anyone being pulled over by the fuzz has time to rack up all ten bags of smack in the car into a line and get it up their nose quick enough.
@jbo8540
Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised
@LuckyStrike01
Жыл бұрын
@@jbo8540 he was already passed out when the cops got there. He was on the side of the road not moving but passed out behind the wheel so he got charged with a dui among several other charges. No way he was trying to scarf it down to avoid time because he was overdosed already. A passerby called the police and reported him passed out and when they pulled up he had to be narcan’d
@Jukeboksi
5 ай бұрын
Simply vile stuff
Heroin is 100 dollars a gram in Baltimore but if you go just a little bit south to Virginia it can get expensive as 50 dollars for 1/10th of a gram
@psychobluesfxt
Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right for Virginia. We can't scrounge up money to renovate all the industrial graveyard or improve the QoL of all the people that live in those areas, or even get our heads together enough to get some major league sports without having to drive up to DC, but we'll gouge you for drugs compared to the states next door. Also, DMV represent!
I always assumed cocaine was the most expensive, it’s a rich persons drug of choice for many.
@natebaxter9551
Жыл бұрын
Heroin is more expensive overall. Harder to smuggle and way more addictive.
@BoondockBrony
Жыл бұрын
@wolfgangkrauser1772 That's probably because as mentioned, it's a rich man's drug. It's a signal to the audience the can afford "the best" or "has taste" if they're lower class. Look at meth, that's the trailer park drug, has no social cache but it's cheap to make and easy to smuggle.
@presidentskroob
Жыл бұрын
It’s a helluva drug
I guess it would depend on how much heroin was in the bags. Pantera wrote a song about heroin called 'Tens', referring to the cost. This is the best reason i've heard yet as to why people do these garbage matches. Not agreeing with it, definitely don't like it but it does make rational sense at some sad angle.
@layersofjade5197
Жыл бұрын
Plus Phil Anselmo nearly died from a heroin OD in 1996.
Man Scape does not pay this man enough, this promo is brilliant
Not that I know anything about any of this but I would imagine there's also a giant quality difference between that $10 bag and/or that glowing briefcase from Pulp Fiction😅😅😅
I once saw a guy overdose on heroin at work, then saw him the next day at his house after he got fired, still doing heroin. I didn’t get it until I was given OxyContin in the military, and it made me feel way too good. I had to flush my pills down the toilet before I got hooked.
@firepenguin38
Жыл бұрын
Good on you for flushing them.... Thanks for your service
@wilcee238
Жыл бұрын
@thebosswolf5680 You’re welcome
@0maxk_
Жыл бұрын
Good choice man! We can fight through our pains to end this epidemic!
@carloscjr23
Жыл бұрын
I remember Joe Rogan saying "it feels like a warm hug" when explaining how oxy felt the time he got it prescribed. The best description ever, I don't remember when I heard it, probably before start using, but as is today I had od 2 times on tramadol (sober now) and since then that phrase stick with me because it's so true. It feels like when you you are in love of your first gf. A very good, powerful feeling, hard to ignore, hard to not want, specially for those who haven't really experienced that in the real world and life, it's something more than just addiction. At some point the chemical addiction just takes over and get lost, you no longer feel the "goodness" of the drug, but keep craving more in hopes of one more time, which is when becomes the last time. Plus withdrawal symptoms are hell on earth, a nightmare. I struggle so much with tramadol I cannot imagine how it is with oxycodone or heroin, but at the same time I wonder how those feel like, I really miss that feeling, maybe one more time? The only thing keeping me clean is the hell that is abstinence, otherwise I would be on heroin by now, probably dead already, luckily I have got the best motivational bump I had in a while and I wanna do something else than just OD, hope it lasts. But, one day at a time.
@wilcee238
Жыл бұрын
@carloscjr23 that’s exactly how oxy feels. Like a warm hug. I took some then drifted into the best sleep of my life; when I woke up I immediately flushed the rest of the pills down the toilet. Stay strong man.
Someone did a vlog on them coming off heroine was so fucked up how the body reacts. I get how people who are hooked have a rough time trying to quit it.
I’ve been on prescription pain medication for almost 18 years, so you can rightly say I’m addicted……although I don’t understand how anyone gets “high” off Percocet or fentanyl. Yes, they are great pain medications. Without them, I would barely be able to do my day to day tasks (8 spinal fusion operations, moderate/severe nerve and spinal cord damage)…..but if my Dr said “You can’t take these anymore”….I would go through the withdrawal process and just go without the best I could. Street chemists don’t give a good gawddayum about you, your health, or your family. They want your money - PERIOD. People need to stay the hell away from them and use common sense
@josheisert8380
Жыл бұрын
If you been on them of 18 years I challenge that statement. Go one day and report back see if you made it.
@jhonviel7381
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the high insurance premiums!
@bigitaly4554
Жыл бұрын
@@josheisert8380 I’ve had withdrawal a couple times after my fentanyl patch(s) would fall off early, unfortunately that happens.
@bigitaly4554
Жыл бұрын
@@jhonviel7381 No probs, fam 😊 To quote the great Gene Snitsky “It’s not my fault” Try having 19 out of your 24 intervertebral discs ruptured and fused, let me know how much pain you can tolerate.
Him and Mox is gonna headline a episode of Rampage 1 day you mark my words...
@jacemacfie1475
Жыл бұрын
He hasn’t had a match in a year
@randallallgood8661
Жыл бұрын
@@jacemacfie1475 good
Was this on a repeat loop ?
14:15 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "fuck Jericho"
UK drug prices are around £10/g weed £40/g coke, H, MDMA
You can just huff paint. Cheap and easy.
A bag, is usually what they call a point , which is .1 of a gram. Had a junkie ex roommate and he always talked about points
Snorted 10 bags 😂😂😂
Did Brian just admit to cocaine use?
@VirgilZandig
Жыл бұрын
He worked in the music business in New York. That's an admission without anything more.
@Rjensen2
Жыл бұрын
No, he said uppers. That could be anything.
@danielburger1775
Жыл бұрын
@@VirgilZandig Didn't Bolin debunk that?
@VirgilZandig
Жыл бұрын
@@danielburger1775 I consider Bolin a funny source, but not necessarily a credible source.
@gayrambo4529
Жыл бұрын
@@Rjensen2 I doubt he was doing greenies with Willie Mays.
5:02 Yeah, they also ask for several second opinions to get multiple prescriptions. It's called "doctor shopping" Maven, the guy who took out the Undertaker at the Royal Rumble? He did it back in the day from what I remember
@jesusleyva4386
Жыл бұрын
He was drunk when Taker chaired him in the Rumble
@MrT571
Жыл бұрын
@@jesusleyva4386 he sobered up quick as hell when that chair landed.
Holy shit, Corny dropping GNR lyrics popped me!
Wow. I didn’t know who the hell they were talking about. Until I read the comments. I actually got to meet and work with Brandon about 10 or 11 years ago. He was a skinny spot dude. Super quiet and friendly.. I’m surprised by what he’s become.
This thumbnail is amazing
"i was more into uppers" "... I was not saying you but-" "OH..." this 3 lines ( no pun intended ) got me looking for my breath 🤣😂
I'm reminded of the end of Willy Wonka... SO YOU GET NOTHING!....YOU LOSE!...GOOD DAY SIR!!!
YO!!! Get my picture off the thumbnail!!!! 😡
Palleeease BRAIN a lil toot here and there don’t qualify 😂
Y2K.. lol... I was ready.. I was in down town Los Angeles and it was a ghost town.. I was hoping the ATM machines would malfunction and shoot out twenties$$.. but nothing happened.. lamest apocalypse ever!!. 👍👍💯😂🤣😂😈😈
Heroin is by far the most expensive drug. It will cost you everything
No heroin is what people go to when the doctor stops prescribing hydrocodone after 10 years, trust me that's why I did
Axl Rose is from Lafayette, IN.
Brian: Was you afraid of Y2K? Jim: (thought he heard Y2J) ...."FUCK JERICHO!" Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭🤔🤦♂️ "ah damn!" 🤣👍
All commercials should be done the way Cornette does for his sponsors.
I just want to know this guys name 😂 I only know him Grover
@Synard66
Жыл бұрын
G-Raver.
@onelunglarry
Жыл бұрын
its g-raver
@vintagetoykid9682
Жыл бұрын
G. RAVER
@namemcnamerton4249
Жыл бұрын
G rover
@russellcampbell3500
Жыл бұрын
Same
That Peterman reference -- topical!
@misterslats
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting that. Those Peterman episodes re: opium were pure GOLD. The one where Kramer's shower head isn't working so his hair is all messed up when he goes to see Elaine at work and Peterman throws him out cuz he thinks he's a junkie? Love it. Still the funniest sitcom ever and I grew up in the 70's and experienced all the great 70's and 80's sitcoms. Seinfeld was just on another more cleverly written level with totally unforgettable characters that came in and out of the episodes.
@SAM-ru4vx
Жыл бұрын
@@misterslats don't blame Elaine⁉️. Suzie was the one that did it.
"10 bags?" Must of been some doggy tranks?
Heroin is actually very cheap....I've never done it myself but my town is kinda known for heroin use. It's only like 10 a bag I believe. Ppl use heroin when they can't afford prescription pills anymore
Bill Burroughs, a Beat reference on Cornette’s show, nice! Next I want an Allen Ginsberg reference.
I argue there is no “real” professional wrestling anymore in this country
It makes sense to me, especially knowing some of the garbage "wrestlers", I've known & worked on shows with. Headcanon accepted
I feel like this total applies to that era of wrestling from the 80s - early 2000s when wrestlers had no care for what they were putting their bodies through. Another excuse to pop that 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 8th pill
Heroin is one of those drugs that has become cheaper as the years went on, while the purity went up. In the 1970s, heroin was about $30 a bag and had a purity of just under 30%. Now you can get it for less than $5 a bag in some places, where it has a purity level of between 80% - 90%. There's a number of factors for it. Partly it would be the flooding of it into the market through growing of the poppies in South West Asia. Mostly Afghanistan these days. When in the 70s, it all came from places like Laos, Burma, and Vietnam. If you want an idea of just how easy it is to get, but also the consequences and side effects of it, then I can't recommend enough watching Euan McGregor in the movie Trainspotting.
I love listening to Jim Cornette roast people and his southern accent makes it better lol
So Grover basically did whole bunch of fentanyl lol
William Burroughs reference
@8:00 - Regulation increases the cost of things. You know that from the industry, Corny.
I'll never look at Grover the same without thinking of this picture.
Did Jim just sing G n R?! 🤟👍
It explains Nick Gage.
The more a person is told they can't have something, the more they will want it. Want to end tooth decay once and for all? Simply outlaw brushing your teeth. At midnight, when the law kicks in, you'll see people on their rooftops brushing away.
Keep going, is what Brian would tell the artist taking drugs lol
“I’m not a heroin expert, but I’ve read _several_ books.” -Brian Last
They want to be the New New Jack.... simple. They never will be though
@Rahab111222
Жыл бұрын
They're missing the charisma, persona and badass presence New Jack had. There's more to pro-wrestling than simply fighting. You have to have the "it" factor, and the young talent don't get that. Even their promos are cringe.
@ameliastencil6058
Жыл бұрын
New Jack was nothing but a thug
it's amazing how much shit we can learn from listening to Corny hahaha no subject matter is off-limits. Toilets, diarrhea, Spectrum, drug prices... LOL
Well that ad transition was weird. Wonder if they had to edit/cut out parts of the 'heroin segment'?
this art is appropriate ... I just got a new strain of bud called Animal Face.