During our ITR Live show with Jim Cornette, we asked him about his role in the creation of the Kane character. Corny goes into great detail about the original idea, how it evolved and what lead to Kane's debut during the Hell In A Cell between Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!

@masonchapman1242

3 жыл бұрын

First like

@thomaselbojensen8465

3 жыл бұрын

Is there anywhere to buy the full videoes og the entire show?

"If you steal from one person it's plagiarism, if you steal from many it's research" BRILLIANT

@kaigreen5641

3 жыл бұрын

Have you never heard that expression before? Its similar to "bad writers steal, good writers borrow but great writers pay homage"

@SCF721

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaigreen5641 funny how I've heard "Bad artists, Great artists steal"

@TheY2AProblem

3 жыл бұрын

If you pay someone so you can plagiarize them, it’s outsourcing.

@Dank_Dank

3 жыл бұрын

@El Comedy Rogue *Led Zeppelin has entered the chat*

@Hybrid980

3 жыл бұрын

Creation doesn't come out of a vacuum, every single thing you've ever listened to, watched, or read, was influenced by something else, when people complain about someone stealing something it's more often than not just sour grapes that other person was better at something than they were. All creative ideas are about taking influences and molding them into something new.

I love how he always manages to find a way to take a shot at Russo.

@rubbishopinions6468

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think its possible for him to talk wrestling for more than 10 minutes without finding a way to bury Russo again.

@omzimusic3385

3 жыл бұрын

@@rubbishopinions6468 😂😂right

@gregd806

3 жыл бұрын

Take a shot every time he takes a shot at the man, and You will be feeling happy.

@sese6227

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregd806 or end up with alcohol poisoning 🤣

@luisn818

3 жыл бұрын

Because he’s fuckin obsessed with Russo. It’s insane

That Kane debut was one of the best in company history. Jericho's was great to.

@joejackson7140

3 жыл бұрын

I have to say the y2j was good. I just didn’t like Jericho so it was a little underwhelming

@adamparker7769

3 жыл бұрын

I was lucky enough to be there, St.Louis,Mo October of 97. I’ll never forget it lol.

@cragerzz

3 жыл бұрын

THE BEST. Done

@grantheskey5704

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@mitch9186

3 жыл бұрын

Shock master was the best

Like him or hate him, the man can tell a f’n story.

“Couldn’t whip cream with an outboard motor” Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

@adammatis5527

2 жыл бұрын

I came back specifically to find that line again. I'm filing that one away for sure lol.

Bruh, are we just gonna ignore the fact that Corny created the HiAC match? Where some of the greatest events in wrestling ever took place? What a fucking legend.

@jasonberg6550

5 ай бұрын

Dude , maybe _YOU_ are the only one who ignores that fact but some us have known that Corny came up with that match LONG AGO. Quit trying to make it seem like you’re a spokesman here bro, sit your ass down.

@tallaladil8206

Күн бұрын

Fr

Kane will always have the greatest debut ever!

@paulpcarter81

3 жыл бұрын

And raw debut the next night

@Work_husband_energy

3 жыл бұрын

I got him and Jericho neck to neck

@tmac731

3 жыл бұрын

Undertaker debut

@sese6227

3 жыл бұрын

@@Work_husband_energy How? lol Jericho's debut was great, but Kane's was next level phenomenal! The Taker/HBK match hell in a cell match, the crazy backstory, Bearer's involvement & then the amazing feud it produced. It's probably the best debut in WWF/E history.

@sese6227

3 жыл бұрын

@@tmac731 Again, How? lol Besides him being the Undertaker & a Legend among legends, there was nothing that great about his debut. Vince didn't really go all out for the dead man in 90.

That Kane Debut is one of my earliest memories of watching Wrestling as a kid.

@frogpapi4636

3 жыл бұрын

Same, Kane is first memory of wrestling I have.

@SnakesNSquids

3 жыл бұрын

@@frogpapi4636 Yep, me too

@dc9345

3 жыл бұрын

How old are you?

@steadydropnem

2 жыл бұрын

Me too i still remember seeing kane in early 1998 and I was hooked on WWF from 1998 til about 2003 then got in high school and only cared about girls lol

@MrMonsterJamFan

2 жыл бұрын

My first memory of when I started watching wrestling was when kane was with tori and had the feud with x pac Anything before that I have no memory of watching wrestling

As a kid around this time kane was the coolest thing ever the story,the effects,the costume,the fact that he was bigger than taker all made it enthralling

@marked4death076

3 жыл бұрын

I hear that, i used to rewind kanes entrance on vhs every monday like 6 times hahaha end up chewing the tape

@patrickdennler1598

3 жыл бұрын

Hate to rain on your parade and shit on your childhood little Timmy but Kane was never Taller then Taker he might have been bigger as a wider but he was never taller than Undertaker that whole gimmick of him being the younger and bigger brother he had to wear lifts in his boots the whole time to be taller than Taker if you go back and look you can always see that he's always wearing some type of lifts in the sole of his boots Taker never wore any type of enhancement to make him taller that's something they ain't going to tell you bout because it would Ruin the Whole Gimmick lol

@wesleywarsmith1113

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickdennler1598 Glen Jacobs was 7.0 in his prime. Mark Calaway was 6.10 in his prime. Both have shrunk due to age and injury/surgery but it seems he's correct.

“and Kane would just chokeslam every-fucking-body” made me laugh 🤣🤣

@t-boy1gamer137

2 жыл бұрын

Jim cornette made me laugh when he said limp dick pussy😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

I remember when Kane would come out and it didn't matter who set it was, he always was ready to kick ass!!

@HybridRenoII

3 жыл бұрын

Yup he was on his OWN Side most of the time

@daedaethomas47

3 жыл бұрын

That was a shoot! Not a work! Fucking marks!

Cornette spins a hell of a yarn. I could listen to his stories for hours.

"That's got to be Kane" most memorial line from the announcers

I totally forgot about the whole Kane coming to random matches and chokeslamming everyone. Kane's initial run right before Wrestlemania 14 was epic. Nobody fucked with Kane lol.

Bruh I swear. Before Kane was even invented, I sent in a drawing to PWI magazine to participate in their create-a-character section, and the drawing looked like old school Kane, and his name was…Kane. Til’ this day I’ve always thought they somehow got the idea off my character submission.

@OmegaLegacy972

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, that would be neat lol

@AxeCheeks

2 жыл бұрын

Weed is good, yeah

@ReiMarvel

2 жыл бұрын

@@AxeCheeks Hah, good one.

@jonrobbin170

Жыл бұрын

If only Cain(Kane) wasn’t already the undertaker’s name that might be true

"Shawn Michaels wins. So we get out of that fn deal. Shawn Michaels always gotta win. Or else wise he wount show up" - Jim Cornette

@utoresa5193

3 жыл бұрын

*Undertaker tapes hands

@akapbhan

3 жыл бұрын

Undertaker winning the belt actually makes it more complicated. Say if Taker wins where do you go from there. Taking the belt off taker while looking credible would be a bigger headache. Also problem is this Taker was still not Biker taker and could not move like he was able to due to character reasons. So though you have a credible champion you can't have five star matches always because apart from Bret and Shawn there's not much better workers at top of the card at this point. Also making Shawn and Bret losing clean to Taker would reduce their credibility. There's a lot to think about when you put the belt on Taker.

@Dank_Dank

3 жыл бұрын

Shawns 2nd wwe run: LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE Title matches

@Airdathegamer

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, that match had a perfect ending with Michaels winning. It's a horror show in October, and Taker is like a movie slasher. He's essentially slowly and methodically murdering Michaels. We hate Michaels and think he deserves it at first, but then as we get near the end we start sympathizing with him. Sure, he's an asshole, but the poor guy's getting ripped to shreads. By the end of the match he is barely conscious. And right when the slasher is going for the kill, BAM. Like a lot of great horror movies, there's a twist at the end. The hunter becomes prey. Shawn Michaels was paying for his sins, but now it's time for Taker to confront his demons. This cold emotionless killer who basically didn't emote throughout the match, now he has a look of shock and horror in his face. It's the perfect finish for this match IMO.

@marmcd2003

2 жыл бұрын

@@akapbhan Shawn wasn't the champion at Hell in a Cell Bret still was this was before Survivor Series, in fact Bret had beat Taker for the belt at Summerslam 1997 because of Shawn accidentally hitting Taker with a chair. It's only because Vince wanted Shawn and Bret so badly since Wrestlemania 12.

😂 what he said about Shawn "Couldn't whip cream with outboard motor!" Wow!!!

Glen jacobs pretty much owes his entire life to undertaker. Characters come and go. But when your character is "related " to undertaker. You got a job for life. If not for the kane character, glen would have fazed out in the independent scene.

@troystaunton254

2 жыл бұрын

Nah if glen had been horrible the Kane character would have lasted 2 months and been over with. Undertaker being involved helped but really it was all glen.

6 month build to the payoff with great storytelling. Now its a 4 week build with poor storyline and the wrestlers phoning it in with wwe.

@NarutoExplained

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@ladistar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn hahahahaha savage Lmao

@EazySCT

3 жыл бұрын

Legit, this is exactly what it is.

@Pauldjreadman

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the 11th hour before every show.

@saidsuka184

3 жыл бұрын

Really was almost a year build Paul bearer was saying taker had a secret after he won the title at mania and it was Kane greatest build to a match ever

best debut of all time. Great storytelling and he looked like a true badass

"the Unabomber was hot at that time so I named him Unabomb"

Damn Jim’s idea for Kane sounded amazing

There was one of the promos after Kane debuted where they discussed Kane getting burned and the family as well scared the fuck outta me. I bought into it and was scared to leave to walk somewhere that day, and it was still light out. That's how good they were back in the day before they took things "more seriously" and scripted the hell out of everything.

Few things have been more lit in the history of wrestling than the earliest days of Kane matching off with his long lost brother, The Undertaker. Epic!

They brought in Kane brilliantly, I became a fan immediately

I love how much contempt you can hear in Jim's voice everytime he even has to reference Vince Russo.

One of the greatest minds in the history of the business...

SWEAR TO GOD...the way Cornette described HBK at the time of the hell in a cell encounter made me fall out of my chair.

So this is the man responsible for creating my favorite wrestler of all time.

One day I want to attend a Comic Con type thing where Bruce Prichard, Paul Heyman and Jim Cornette are in the same room talking and telling stories for hours. Would be the greatest thing ever.

As glad as I am with how long the streak went on, Kane at wm 14 had all the momentum in the world to win but he lost sadly and ita happened alot in kane's career to win the big one

That was the most exciting time to be a wrestling fan. Tuning in every Monday night, not knowing when Kane was going to strike. I vividly remember the 6 man midget match because my best friend and I were talking on the phone as it happened, and I remember King going apeshit cause he thought Kane was going to smear a bunch of little dudes haha. That original run with Kane from 97 through 98 was the best. And then they castrated him and he never recovered.

Actually, vignets with the "looking through Kane's mask at pictures of Undertaker" would have been cool to do, but AFTER he'd debut'd at Hell in a Cell.

@kevoconnor145

3 жыл бұрын

@ShadowAngel the reason it wouldn't work before the debut is because part of the story was Undertaker not believing Paul Bearer when he said Kane was alive. It would have worked after the debut as a way of showing how long and how obsessed he was with getting "revenge" on the Undertaker.

@kevoconnor145

3 жыл бұрын

@ShadowAngel don't be so condescending. Just because people have different views from you, it doesn't mean they are thinking "1 dimensionally" and it doesn't mean their view isn't any less valid than yours. The fact that all we had was Paul saying he was alive made it a more intriguing angle and the fact we had no evidence to prove it, made the debut better, imo.

This would be perfect for Kane's doc series like Taker ......w/ Jim Cornette ....

Kane had one of the best debuts ever!

@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301

3 жыл бұрын

yes along with John Cena's

Jim, the Hell in a Cell wasn't a title match. 1) The European title wasn't on the line 2) It was for the #1 contender spot for Bret's World title. That's how Michaels became the #1 contender and wrestled the Screwjob match.

I was there in the 4th row when Kain made his debut. I’ll never forget the heat wave that went over me when the ring post pyrotechnics went off.

They should've used Jim's idea with Kane but I still love his masked attire God I wish he kept it

didn't expect to see jim on this channel^^

@frankunodostres473

3 жыл бұрын

@OJ McClanahan because from what I know kenny and ITR are suuuuuper PC and never wanna offend anyone while jim doesn't shy away from saying controversial stuff

@userjim83

3 жыл бұрын

Jim has a lot of respect for Kenny, he often mentions him on his podcast and he’s one of the best storytellers around so be daft not to do shows with him...

Bruce prichard came up with the kane or so he said in his podcast

Plz tell in which episode ,I can listen this in Spotify?

Was Oly vaping when this was filmed? ;)

@InsideTheRopes

3 жыл бұрын

This was before his time haha

I love listen to jim cornette podcast its entertaining lmao

Kane shouldve been the one to beat the Streak and it didnt necessarily had to happen at wm 14. Kane had nothing to for wm 30 so he couldve challenged taker but he was with the authority so it wouldnt looks so good.

@wesleywarsmith1113

3 жыл бұрын

I think Sting should have been. That way he could claim nobody In WWF/WWE bested the streak. As well as many other perks

Jim is a national treasure.

I didn’t even watch wrestling at that point but when Kane debuted, all of my classmates were talking about him. I knew I had to watch because I was left out

I love listening to his stories. These are the guys i grew up watching and to hear the stories is awesome.

If it wasn't for Corny creating Kane and doing it so well..we wouldn't of got Danhausen

@pendafen7405

Жыл бұрын

well when you put it like that....:/

Jim cornette can't talk about anything without finding a way to criticise Vince Russo 😆

@travelingman5146

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not true at all!

@bricktop.

2 жыл бұрын

" So I was at the store buying some cheese and I thought to my self...fuck this cheese, it reminds me of Russo"

Just want to mention that HBK did not have the title in the Hell in a Cell match, Bret Hart did. The Hell in a Cell match was a #1 contenders match.

@IAmHeartbreak_

3 жыл бұрын

@OJ McClanahan While that's true, Jim Cornette was referencing the WWE Title as he's told this story as well on his podcast and it had to be pointed out to him that Bret Hart was actually the champ at the time

Kane was awesome.Especially in his earlier years.Putting Paul Bearer with him just made it even better.That dude was legit scary.He had the size and man when that pyro hit and he came walking out you knew someone was about to get beat down.The idea of him wearing the cape was horrible though.Im glad they noticed the cape wasnt gonna work,lol.

Kane in a Master/Blaster role would have been cool.

Oh surprised that this channel uploaded something with Jim Cornette in the title due to all the controversy

@rogregg29445

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@DoctrineOfMayhem

3 жыл бұрын

What controversy? He explained everything, all the bullshit is settled.

Wow, never knew Cornette was the creator of hell in a cell, and I verified it by looking it up so he’s not lying. He should get royalties every time they have that PPV.

Kane destroyed everybody. I hate the fact they had him at basically jobber status later in his career

5:25 "That gets Michaels out to work with other people" he just dusts off the Montreal Screwjob just like that hahaha

Who remembers being a kid im the 90s and searching all over the internet looking for pics of Kane without his mask

Ironically the whole pictures on the wall they used for undertaker after the triple h wrestlemania and couldn't leave under his own power

Those Halloween like videos would've been fucking sick!

It hurt when I found out wrestling was fake and scripted. But still respect the athleticism and commitment of the actors/wrestlers. I also enjoyed wrestling spin offs like jerry springer show

Kane's top moment was when he said, "Suuuuuck it!"

What's with the PQ?

Still the best of best.kanes story.i still watch the old one.

Attitude Era Is Legend Era in the WWE EVER!

1:54 Mark loved Glenn from the first match they had😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

Glen Jacobs should have gone into the hall of fame as the fake diesel

@sandyunderpants4376

2 жыл бұрын

Isaac Yankem first. Glen will be the first 3 time HOFer.

Thank you Jim Cornette

*That’s… that’s gotta be Kane!*

Great story and content. But I love how he's invited for an interview and basically makes it about himself.

At 6:46 it sounds like someone in the crowd passed out, or Jim said something too controversial..... probably both lol

I was hyped as fuck when I seen kane come out for the first time. Huge Taker fan but I cant lie...I jumped ship real quick and became a Kane fan lol.

Jim’s an incredible story teller

Cornette's stories, like him or hate him, are absolute fucking platinum.

“The Unabomber was hot at that time.” Yes, he was practically blowing up. The Louisville Slugger means well but phrasing. For the love of God, phrasing.

Am I the only one that loved it when Jim Cornette was the General manager of TNA/ impact wrestling

I'm a bit confused about what he was saying about Michaels not dropping the title. He only had the European title at the time.

Great debut. Lights go out music hits. Sounds like the fiend. Who they are wasting

@chadjustice8560

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't watched in years but have seen clips but he is not being wasted. They are trying to recreate the undertaker in a different way which can't be done.

If I remember right in the beginning Kane could not even talk without holding a electronic voice box to his throat.I think he was suppose to have some kind of damage to his vocal chords...

Thank you very much for Kane Jim cornette!

Cornette did get one detail wrong: the HBK-Taker HIAC wasn’t for the title, it was a #1 contenders match to decide who would challenge Bret for the title at Survivor Series. He’s probably getting it mixed up with the HBK-Taker casket match at the ‘98 Rumble (the one where Kane nailed Taker into the casket and then set it on fire), which was for the title and was the actual blowoff to their feud.

4:00 in 😂😂 shawn

2:39 Kane is not *evil* he has a lot of trauma!!!! he just wanted love and safety!!!!! that's my silliest babygirl!!!!!!!!!!!

Percy Pringles idea for brother Kane (Cain)

Jim Cornette sitting on a stage telling a Jim Cornette story wearing a Jim Cornette shirt is peak mood.

Finally we can address this

Great video and Kane is a bad ass. Fucking scared me as a kid. I really thought he was burnt underneath all that outfit.

What if Kane was still the dentist who was burned after a dentist accident

*Not sure if Jim knows this or not but he never talks about how the mask came to be or who it came from? Or who came up with the mask design?*

While I don't much care for a lot of Cornette's thoughts on the current wrestling product, he has always been a great storyteller.

I love Cornette and listening to his storys.

Better then fake diesel!🤦🏼‍♂️😂

@joetheman8550

3 жыл бұрын

And Isaac Yankeem DDS.

That Hell in a Cell wasn’t for the title Bret was the champion

Kane scared the shit out of me as a kid

Couldn't whip cream with a outboard motor Lol 🤣

Thank You Jim!!!

To quote the great Adam Blampied: wonderful wonderful bollocks.

I love Cornette's metaphors man

This was non title match.. it's what made everyone think taker was going to win

@Toast960

3 жыл бұрын

Right. I could be wrong but I believe it was a Number 1 contender's match. It was Oct '97 so Bret was still champ and HBK winning is what infamously led to Survivor Series '97.

@dustman820

3 жыл бұрын

@@Toast960 You are correct. The winner got to face Bret for the WWF title at Survivor Series and we all know what happened there.

Swear down Cornette and Russo cannot do anything without mentioning each other. They deffo had drunk bum fun back in the day and now can't get over it🤣

@tammyforbes2101

3 жыл бұрын

Nah they just cut each others throats and cost each other careers, and piles of cash, so yea lot of hate there!