Haha the "We want Travis" sign. These artists are all great. 👍🏻

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesthoreson4162 right, and you know there's a difference between genuinely not feeling something presented and out right being dismissive just cause you're used to something else prior

@Blastanker

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that is great lol

@presidentskroob

2 жыл бұрын

@@leelohaskin7941 apparently not a lot of people on these threads do

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

@@presidentskroob yeah🤷🏽‍♀️

@royalty843

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the marvel styled thumbnail

I shouldn’t have laughed at “Inoki getting older and losing his mind, and Baba getting sick and dying”.

@metallicbigtoe3949

2 жыл бұрын

Fuckin hell 🤣🤣

@vulrare

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah,Inoki almost killed NJPW with his antics....Tanahashi is thought of by many people as the savior of NJPW.

@The1776er

2 жыл бұрын

@@vulrare yup, it's true

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@@vulrare what were some antics? I loved learning more about Japanese wrestling (deathmatch and traditional) from this episode, but I know the history is much much deeper in that part of the world.

@colonelkenpachi5009

2 жыл бұрын

@@Charsi_Escobar Inoki believed in Shoot Style as a legit fighting style so he taught alot of people in the dojo that style and then put them up against legit MMA fighters because he wanted to prove his way of fighting could work. But it didn't turn out that way as alot of people got wrecked people like Kojima, Nagata, Nakamura (who actually succeeded somewhat), Tenzan. They got obliterated by the legit opposition which eventually lead to Bob Sapp winning the IWGP heavyweight belt.

No wonder Shibata left and Tanahashi hates Inoki. Inoki’s MMA obsession nearly killed New Japan. Gedo had to Americanize New Japan because the promotion was at its lowest in 04-09. It was near death until Tanahashi became the main event star and then Okada took over.

@patale1640

2 жыл бұрын

The way Shibata was forced to retire was poetic. Like the last bit of Inokism dying off.

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

@@patale1640 well I'd use the words bittersweet and heartbreaking in Shibata's case but I get what you're saying

@thewoodchipperr

2 жыл бұрын

Now New Japan is in the shitter. Eating itself with fucking KOPW shit Without Inoki, there's no Nakamura. No actual wrestlers/skilled fighters in wrestling, which helps in the REALISM that people always say they're searching for in wrestling. No professionalism or keeping the sport in pro wrestling

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewoodchipperr it's actually the opposite. Inoki throwing inexperienced guys into the lions den hurt their credibility. And pushing guys that were legit and knew nothing about how pro wrestling works hurt the watch abilitiy of the product.

@thegreenjackal

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewoodchipperr Nakamura was a limited example of success. The common stories are of legit fighters who couldn't wrestle and wrestlers who couldn't fight getting thrown into situations where they got beat. New Japan has much bigger issues especially booking wise than a lack of legitimacy or realism.

Flair was the grandpa doing "interesting things". lol

Taking me back to my tape trader days in the 90s

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

Before my time, but it sounds like it would’ve been a golden time to be a wrestling fan.

@kshinokevin

2 жыл бұрын

Video Tape Trading: I have read about these in the back portions of various magazines: Pro Wrestling Illustrated / The Wrestler / Inside Wrestling.

Don't look down on Japanese Independant Wrestling ! It has also been the primary place for Shoot-Style Wrestling for a decade now Hard Hit, Heat Up, and now the bigger GLEAT promotion (among others less known). While the biggest Promotions are doing the same Strong Style matches again and again, there's genuine unique technicians/shooters in the indies like Yu Iizuka, Takatoshi Matsumoto, Tetsuya Izuchi...

@normaningemann3868

2 жыл бұрын

2:09! So W*ING was the Japanese version of Memphis? The first time I ever heard of a wrestler named Leatherface was in Memphis!

@cyberpunkgrappling6447

2 жыл бұрын

@@normaningemann3868 No. W*ING was even more hardcore than FMW as they were using Glass and Fire on a regular basis However... if that can make you feel better IWA Japan (which was the successor of W*ING) had a more western style starting in 1997, yes similar to Memphis. There was a guy on the undercard named "Crusher Takahashi" and he had a Dusty Rhodes/Barry Whindham ring-attire and a moveset very similar to the Funks brothers I think he hasn't wrestled much in the 2000s but he had a couple of single matches in 2017. He's a very skilled technician for a independant wrestler

“It’s like this Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan, no one can replace him. Antonio Inoki is Antonio Inoki. Giant Baba is Giant Baba. Onita Atsushi can only be Onita Atsushi. One generation, no successor.”

@dominiquejones3805

2 жыл бұрын

I agree wit that

@Supervillain725

2 жыл бұрын

It seems as if AEW is trying to make Moxley the new Onita.

@Nephewwayne

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominiquejones3805 I disagree with you on that one Jon moxley is not a draw onita sold out arenas John moxley sells out high School gyms

@MarquisLeary34

2 жыл бұрын

@@Supervillain725 And failing.

@Supervillain725

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nephewwayne, they play "Wild Thing" for Mox and try to give him a personality. Plus, he does some of the hardcore stuff that made him sort of famous.

NJPW is the most legit promotion on the planet, but yeah, Jim right. There are tons of promotions in Japan but nothing that holds up to modern njpw or old school ajpw and njpw.

I can't wait to hear Jim's take on XPW

@pleaseshutup7053

2 жыл бұрын

Is that the promotion where new Jack almost killed grimes lol.

@jay_1212

2 жыл бұрын

@@pleaseshutup7053 yup

@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma

2 жыл бұрын

@@jay_1212 Lied about trying to kill him. Watch the clip, Grimes clearly jumps into the bump.

@countof3everybodyOD

2 жыл бұрын

I still want to hear Jim on the best promo ever, the JEEZUS promo

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he wont watch it like he did with the Nick Gage episode 🤣

Onita is on a different planet than somebody like Nic Gage. Onita was legitimately trained to be a wrestler and was a great worker with the traditional style of wrestling. He just suffered a horrific injury and had nowhere else to go, so he had to come up with these great ideas to get over. But in the end, he used a lot of classic pro wrestling concepts to get himself over. He was a sympathetic and likeable babyface that is one of the best sellers of all time. That will always equate to big money. He understood the spectacle that pro wrestling could be and how that environment is unique and draws fans to see. And he continuously came up with ideas that somehow topped previous ideas. I think the puroresu talent pool has declined over the past 20 years. I remember all of these fans praising KENTA as the greatest thing ever and then watching him wrestle against Misawa who was way past his prime and Misawa basically spell it out for him. It's really about being able to do flips, kicks and finishers at any expense, even with regards to the optics and believability.

Honestly compared to the Plane Ride From Hell and Chris Kanyan this episode was pretty light fare, aside from the suicide.

all japan in the 90s was probably the best promotion in the world

All the guest artists have been great. I think Cornette should occassionally have guest artist to give Travis a rest time to time. But Travis can't ever leave us. Lol.

@indus7841

2 жыл бұрын

@DefN0Tadam;) cry about it you little girl

@madamefeast4824

2 жыл бұрын

@DefN0Tadam;) Stop being awful

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

Resting from illness or injury?

Is it me or is Jim looking like hank hill's long lost brother lol

@williamhowe1

2 жыл бұрын

"Do I look like I know what a hammerlock is!'

@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of these guest guys are drawing him like that. Mudshows and mudshow accessories, I tell ya what...

@dj_mcfuggernugs507

14 минут бұрын

He looks like a grown up version of Bobby with the short hair

I want an artbook with all these guest artist and the normal artist stuff. Everything has been great.

@Christoffski

2 жыл бұрын

Fan art book would be awesome. I look forward to seeing the art people create almost as much as the show

NJPW and AJPW in the 90s blows anything modern away. These modern fans have no idea how big it was.

Would love an episode on rikidozan

@susan-meaaz4879

2 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Sharwood true, but still would be awesome.

Hey man, y'all be nice to Jesse's artwork now. Yes we love us some Travis art, but the artwork as of late has been beautiful in its own way

@BASEMENTWORKOUT-s2o

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but more like king of the hill meets 1992 Royal rumble artwork.

@kumiliarostreamsarchives3079

2 жыл бұрын

Love both artists !

@drdoom246

2 жыл бұрын

I dig this artwork. Better then some of the others.

@timothy4011

2 жыл бұрын

Shut up. People are allowed to dislike what they want. “Be nice”? How about “Grow balls!”?

@OfficialHavocOsiris

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothy4011 HOW ABOUT YOU BE NICE MAN 😆😆😆😆😆😆 Nah you're good fam. Carry on

This was a pretty good rundown, however Jim didn't mention IWE or Pioneer Senshi which are also pivotal to the subject.

"bank-addicted drug robber" sounds like an interesting gimmick

@dannymcelroy922

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly he sucks. Lol. He's a low budget stuntman at best.

@dominiquejones3805

2 жыл бұрын

Only Jim lol

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannymcelroy922 Fucking guy is over with some fans, though. Fan of his or not, can’t buy that connection with the crowd

Now I really need to hear Jim review a Zack Sabre Jr, Shingo or Tanahashi match.

@joshuaDstarks

2 жыл бұрын

Won’t ever happen. Too busy watching terrible wrestling.

@abealih92

2 жыл бұрын

Just send him email to watch that.

the artwork is great for this title cover. hope our buddy is well and healthy tho.

To be fair, the whole thing with new/starting NJPW guys being kinda samey is by design. Guys in their developmental Young Lions program are taught the basic wrestling stuff, and they all have pretty uniform look of those black shorts. As they learn and develop, they start diversifying their looks and styles more. To name few guys, Tanahashi, Okada and Naito all came from the program, and they are all very different from each other these days and are easily recognizable. I'm not saying that the idea of doing this is great or perfect, but there is logic to it all.

That transition into the Ad read was a thing of beauty.

I love being first introduced to NJPW. There's no denying the star power that came from there.

The manscaped commercial at the end is also entertaining lol

Amazing job on graphics design

The body of water here in question was the Kanda River in Tokyo. They took care of all that in the late 1980s. Kandagawa Jet Girls, the cross media which includes the PS4 game and Fall 2019 anime of the same name, is based off that river. The Spring 2023 anime Mahou Shoujo Magical Destroyers Episode 4 goes into good detail about the now prestine Kanda River.

@loolewis8212

Жыл бұрын

Uhhhh okay…. But I’m sure this is the river in Osaka after Onita won the tag tournament with his partner in December 1992.

I would like to hear from Josh Barnett about 90s pro wrestling and MMA in Japan

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t trust his word, can’t even trust him on a drug test 💉🤣

@toniklocc

2 жыл бұрын

Well you know he was on the roids when he faught in Pride and DREAM

I am still of the belief New Japan got over so huge from 2011- to now because two main factors, girls were watching because the top guys look liked characters from Manga. I mean look at Okada. Also, United States life long Pro Wrestling fans disenchanted with United States Pro Wrestling saw elements of what they used to love, long detailed storylines, faction warfare, great matches with drama. High Speed Internet really helped New Japan more than anything really though.

@sarthakrawat7748

2 жыл бұрын

Aj styles is only reason for their foreign publicity

@WSK9002

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarthakrawat7748 I wouldn't say only reason, although I would say a lot of people especially in North America wouldn't have begun watching New Japan if Styles did not show up.

@toniklocc

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarthakrawat7748 as much as many ppl would deny it. The hardcore fans from the USA were also brought in by the Young Bucks. At the time they were the king of the indies and I think that’s the only reason they were brought it was to get American eyes. They were never fucking over in Japan. Hell even when they went “heavyweight” it was crickets.

@sarthakrawat7748

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonikloccthey were always their wwtchin chyna hogan and that's brain dead japanese legend hell i bet anime bring more fans than em and they werent even famous without balor

@sarthakrawat7748

2 жыл бұрын

Well tbf u might be right since i dont have any stats

You can see the tupelo thing on you tube Ricky one and the 79 one with Wayne Farris htm

Love the Travis sign lol good on Jesse Lebon 👏

One aspect that I was not expecting, Smart Marks want to make it out to be, that Japanese Promoters are so different from North American ones... Onita was the Japanese Extreme Verne Gagne. This guy would marry himself if he could, lol.

I want to hear Jim's opinion on the King's Road Style and the efforts of WALTER and Eddie Kingston reviving that style

@starshipfame1

2 жыл бұрын

Jim actually likes Kingston and WALTER

@aaronsejas6442

2 жыл бұрын

@@starshipfame1 then he should watch AJPW in the 90s

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronsejas6442 he won’t watch Japanese wrestling after seeing the little girls and blow up dolls wrestling 🤣

@kshinokevin

2 жыл бұрын

Yes !!!

Why does this art of Onita and Jim remind me of the movie Double Dragon when Billy and Jimmy are in the polluted river?🤔

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

Just missing the golden coin and 90s douchebag villain with frosted tips 💀

@fernandoguajardo2750

2 жыл бұрын

@@Charsi_Escobar You Said It.🤣

Sushi Onita... GREAT restaurant name!

Jim is 100000% talking out of his ass , he and Brian completely speculating and showing their lack of knowledge in current NJPW and why people hold it on a pedestal compared to the rest of the world.

@DeMar0805

2 жыл бұрын

Yea he has no idea about ZSJ, Shingo, Sanada, or hell even Jeff Cobb.

@toniklocc

2 жыл бұрын

Brian does like New Japan.

And Atsushi Onita is in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame

Where can i find that pic?

I love pro wrestling. Technical wrestling at that. Something about grounding an opponent with take downs and headlocks and yet of course a fair amount of top rope moves or drop kicks is what I enjoy the most in the sport. It takes time and doesn’t move automatically to just fly all over the place and or do very horrific matches that lead to well the original sheik almost dying in a literal blaze of fire. I don’t know what to say about onita. Other than I certainly respect how he managed to make a lot of success within the creation of fmw. But it certainly went too far despite onita respecting anoki and giant baba. But I certainly can’t understand doing these matches that can especially kill someone. But I don’t understand why would ecw do half of what they did in order to shock. With one of the worst ecw matches to me was the tai pei death match. Would love to hear your guys thoughts as always.

I just realize Dean Ambrose's look from 2014-2017 was based on Atsushi Onita.

@Sky_Blaze

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yea ...Moxley is a joke cosplay wrestler no originality.

"Onita is actually gonna blow somebody up" - Jim Cornette

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah , his own ass eventually 🤣 And he probably wouldn't want it any other way.

How do we go from talking about Death Match Wrestling to talking a manscaping kit without cracking a frickin' laugh at it . Only Cornette can do it and not miss a step . Priceless .

Brian got it right. New japan's "success" have gone hand by hand with the americanization of their product. Which in a way dimishes his legitimate status as puroresu. They aint puroresu anymore, theyre sports entertainment.

@toniklocc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Because women became more interested in the product when it came to story lines and dressing them up like anime characters.

Been a fan Atsushi Onita and FMW for years and have many of his matches on both VHS and DVD . The pioneer of the death match and he was over big time with his feuds with The Shiek , Tarzan Goto , Tiger Jeet Singh , Mr,Pogo, Genchiro Tenryu and all the crazy matches that came out of FMW which speared companies like W*ING , IWA Japan , BJW where they took what Onita did and upped the ante . Death Match wrestling is an aquired taste and you either like it or you don't . Onita was 1 of the few that made money off of it .

I'd like to see Corny review NOAH

Dang it Onita!

Inoki going insane as told by Jim is something I want to hear

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Sharwood what was some of the crazier shit Inoki did? I don’t know much about Japanese wrestling history :/

I'm surprised Onita as crazy as he was didn't add sharks and crocs and mines to the water.

@therealnmg

2 жыл бұрын

They did have exploding things in the water in some of the matches. The involvement of animals might get them unnecessary bad press during the time.

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

They had piranha involved at least once

@normaningemann3868

2 жыл бұрын

@@natebaxter9551 That was Big Japan!

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@normaningemann3868 you're correct. I get my Japanese outlaw mudshows mixed up.

@Rando1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@natebaxter9551 yeah, Big Japan was the ones doing animal death matches. Piranha, scorpions, alligators, tarantulas.

Dude this is like the third time this same clip has been up wtf??

"Folks....you don't have to open your mouth and eat a bunch of sh*t". Hahaha ahh that's humorous stuff. Anyway I know that thanks to Manscaped I have a VERY smooth sphincter.

The art feels 90s

(Shohei) Giant Baba = All Japan 🗾 Pro Wrestling (AJPW); (Antonio) Inoki = NJPW (New Japan Pro Wrestling). I remember watching clips of Pro Wrestling Noah, Dragon gate (not the Dragongate USA: Gabe Sapolsky's version) and some FMW (ECW: Mike Awesome, Terry Funk, Cactus Jack/Mick Foley) material on KZread. I still have to find out if there are great Joshi federations (that still exist in 2022). I am so used to seeing: Stan "The Lariat" Hansen, (Big Van) Vader, and "Dr. Death" Steve Williams. "A sewage-infested (polluted) water, with open wounds (sounds like Fukushima disaster zone)." (Eating (hepatitis C) Crap; stuff that you could contract, with Abdullah (the Butcher)'s dreaded Fork, his (famous but) trusty weapon of choice (from his old "House of Ribs & Chinese Food" (Atlanta, Georgia-based) restaurant). Abby, also a Canadian like Hannibal, his main specialty were Death/Garbage (Pail Kids-style of)/(ECW) hardcore matches; the "Madman from the Sudan." (ECW wrestlers liked to use Cheese Graters a lot: see the Dudley Boyz, Tommy Dreamer (Prosthetic Legs: Diesel (aka Kevin Nash) used Mad Dog Vachon's fake leg, against Shawn Michaels, in the WWE/WWF). New Jack had used Everything that he could find.) See the Hannibal TV (Devon Nicholson) vs Abby in (Alberta,) Canada, on May 2, 2007) - Corny. Abdullah matches as films and other wrestling companies: instead of inspiring (Akira) Kurosawa symphonies and the old Chikara (the (Marvel / DC Comics) Cosplay / Comic Con league, by Mike Quakenbush), it would be more of a Takeshi Miike, Quentin Tarantino, Roger Corman (producer/director) "Grindhouse"/B-movie/exploitation, Backyard Wrestling (GCW : Game Changer Wrestling = Nick Gage (a former New Jersey-based (Domino's Pizza (cutter) bank robber); XPW: Rob Black) bloodbath.

Wing was terrible when they first came out but after the first year or so they had a couple of really good years and put on some really good shows and matches

Is deathmatch wrestling as popular over in Japan in present day? I know there was Onryo's 666 promotion and BJPW?

@Mondragora99

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda, there's no wrestling promotion who is 100% deathmatches, BJW for example, they havce one of the best Heavyweight Division of the world with Sekimoto and Okabayashi as the top guys there. Walter wrestle there too and his matches against both of these guys are cult classics.

@Rando1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mondragora99 Big Japan is probably the biggest, and Freedoms would be the 2nd. Neither have drawn the crowds like Onita's FMW.

Great sasaki *DIVE*

lol Friday’s taped AEW Rampage drew an average of 622,000 viewers on TNT, according to Nielsen via Showbuzz Daily. This is down 2.81% from last week’s taped two-hour Grand Slam edition of Rampage, which drew 640,000 viewers.

It all started with Pancrase…. Ffs Bam Bam Bigelow even fought against Kimo Leopoldo in one real shoot fight.

Agree

Corny’s hate for death match wrestling will forever fuel me to watch more death match wrestling

@Ted_Bell

2 жыл бұрын

You should participate

@henrygvidonas9573

2 жыл бұрын

You show that retired millionaire in Kentucky who doesn't even know you exist what's what, Chewy! You go, girl!

@xJimbobKOTFx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ted_Bell Okay, Ted

@xJimbobKOTFx

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrygvidonas9573 thx :)

Never understood why Japan went so much for the ultra-violence.

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

Their culture is so straight laced they love the over the top stuff. Tentacle porn and death matches take the stress off.

@cyberpunkgrappling6447

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they also accept minimalist/pure wrestling more easily For exdmple Osamu Nishimura had a Karl Gotch gimmick for 20 years now

@elianeduardo

2 жыл бұрын

The same in Mexico, there were blood baths in the toreo de 4 Caminos, El Santo almost died in his retirement match for using forks and kitchen knifes and people when crazy

Tmnt inspired artwork?

@slyfox2022

2 жыл бұрын

That's what i thought

WE WANT TRAVIS!

The FMW "Dark Side of The Ring" is an episode I really enjoyed because it wasn't a hit piece, the people that were actually involved in what happened, the key people, the ones who are still alive, were interviewed. I am noticing a pattern in Japanese Pro Wrestling, two to be frank one is, A) When a Veteran Promoter hands the keys to the company to people who have no idea what they are doing, the industry as a whole suffers, same thing that occurred to All Japan and New Japan occurred to FMW first. B) Japanese Promotions tend to put all their Eggs in One Basket in terms of their Ace and they rarely have a solid back up plan. What happened with Hayabusa when his career ended is eerily similar to when Misawa died in 2009. FMW never recovered after Hayabusa died and Pro Wrestling NOAH never was the same after Misawa died. In truth, there would be no XPW, CZW, Hustle, DDT, Pro Wrestling Promotions without FMW first, but it also shows the lesson that no one will ever learn... If one bases their entire company around Thumbtacks, Flaming Tables, and Barbed Wire. One is going to be lucky if they have a Five Year Run of Good Business. However, no cares about that fact still to this day. Pathetic really.

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@Gen and you’ll see now more of the top guys, who were talented enough like Rock and Cena, leave for Hollywood and make themselves incredibly wealthy.

I Get Garbage -Pail Kids Trading ‘ Cards who Has Toilet-Smeller’s Card?

kind of like a “new” americanization of Japanese Pro Wrestling?

Never heard of hayabusa this is why I enjoy dark side of the ring the matches I saw recently he looked excellent. I really gotta respect aew short time as a company they have not gone through any real controversy the only tragedy was from the great Brodie lee. I hope aew continues to be this. I think all wrestling fans would agree we have seen way too much tragedy in wrestling.

@Ted_Bell

2 жыл бұрын

They were lucky Hardy didn't kill himself going back out after having a concussion.

@pleaseshutup7053

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ted_Bell forgot about that and you right they avoided a tragedy twice with the Matt hardy situation.

@JesusSaves-yq3cp

2 жыл бұрын

Hayabusa is such a mega foundation within Pro Wrestling, man was a pioneer of his his time, Sugi is a little bit like him, but Hayabusa can never be replicated

@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma

2 жыл бұрын

@@JesusSaves-yq3cp Shame he only had one match in North America.

@dannymcelroy922

2 жыл бұрын

As much as they botch in aew, someone is bound to die in ring unless they tighten that work up asap. There are a ton of pointless risk spots. It's basically a numbers game if they keep going that way,

Did they re-upload this?

@pleaseshutup7053

2 жыл бұрын

No they talked about onita now they are talking about it again after the episode.

I have to agree with the "We want Travis" sign.

How many times has Cornette inadvertently created or popularized something he hates now? Lol.

This was a real dark side of wrestling here. Pissing on wrestlers and firecrackers 🧨 n asses, a owner committed suicide, unpaid talent, a paralyzed wrestler and exploding pools and barbed wire matches

@SAM-ru4vx

2 жыл бұрын

Not one but 2 leather face wrestlers working matches with Friday the 13th and Halloween characters. Yeah Jason Voorhees & Michael Myers vs leather face and super leather in a no rope barbed wire Caribbean death match with glass, spikes, blades, baseball bats, etc all on 🔥 on an 🏜️ Island with 🦈🐡🦂 in fish tanks or pools

@shane5597

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dominique, this comment shows how “educated” you are on FMW and the history of deathmatches in Japan

10:28 "In 1984" Oh my god Jim, NJPW has kicked ass for years now, just accept the fact that something you don't like can actually be good.

@LoveMachine-gk7dc

2 жыл бұрын

1984 New Japan and current Japanese wrestling are night and day. There is a ton of trash wrestling in Japan today. It's not just him not liking something. The Bullet Club influenced a lot of the booking with their run-ins, and that isn't like what New Japan used to be

@darshin95

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMachine-gk7dc No one wants things to be the way they used to be except for Jim and these dorks that listen to him. Literally a wrestling podcast that has 250K listeners, let's talk about how shitty everything is these days. Old man yelling at cloud energy. Every year is further away from 1984.

@LoveMachine-gk7dc

2 жыл бұрын

@@darshin95 Dude wrestling sucks today compared to the way it used to be.

@jaydav6521

2 жыл бұрын

@@darshin95 Jim has been very complimentary of AEW in recent weeks. He called Grand Slam the best TV show they've ever produced. Tony Khan recently said that he respects Jim and agrees with a lot of what he has to say. Meanwhile, Jim has gained over 200k new subscribers since Dynamite started airing. There's clearly a market for Jim's opinion, and Tony Khan is admittedly a fan.

@toniklocc

2 жыл бұрын

It has and it’s worked along time to get there. But there’s no denying the 80s and 90s were insane. Today Gedo books it more like the wrestling territories like Memphis. I love New Japan. But when more than one major company was offering killer product like AJPW it made both flounder in those time

I guess its a positive thing dark side is running out of good ideas seemingly...the drug robber as cornette says, kanyon, a plane ride, bruiser (& not brody), independents...I wouldn't watch any of em, i guess its good not much truly awful has happened

BJW is almost at the level of FMW but still nowhere near the 'wwe level/major league level' of FMW, its not filling up as big of stadiums despite BJW Standing for 'Big Japan Pro Wrestling', its on much more of cult level than FMW was but is the closest thing to a spiritual successor to FMW out there, guys like mr. Pogo went to BJW after FMW went defunct.

@bloodlustvid2503

4 ай бұрын

The name doesn’t have anything to do with it being “Big” it’s just a name ffs lol and Pogo was in BJW doing matches even when he was in FMW, he only did a few matches in the Entertainment era of FMW before going back to BJW

Corny loves to go on about garbage wrestling and we all know that he likes what he likes and hates everything else, but the bottom line is that the biggest draw in pro wrestling is giving the audience an emotional connection with what they're watching, and Oneida might have been one of the best of all time at it. The genre of wrestling is almost meaningless.

@HkFinn83

2 жыл бұрын

12 guys in a barn doesn’t count

@HkFinn83

2 жыл бұрын

If there are more wrestlers in the ring than there are fans, wtf is even happening at this point?

@pleaseshutup7053

2 жыл бұрын

@@HkFinn83 😂😂😂 why you gotta do him like that. You speaking facts tho. Although respect to those 12 people who show up to shows like that I could never haha

@Ted_Bell

2 жыл бұрын

Lol are you insane?

@henrygvidonas9573

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that emotional connection you have with pain pill junkies slicing themselves and each other into little pieces of mincemeat for the pleasure of you and your 9 half-brothercousinuncles, while you're breathing in carcinogenic dust from the broken light tubes...

I had no idea indie wrestling even existed in Japan. Whenever I think of Japanese wrestling, New Japan always comes to mind.

@cyberpunkgrappling6447

2 жыл бұрын

And that's the problem, because New Japan has it's own style and doesn't represent Japanese Wrestling as a whole

@natmason5528

2 жыл бұрын

Or NOAH. It's probably #2 in Japan. NOAH works with many of the American companies.

@user-hc9qv9yb9m

2 жыл бұрын

what does "indie wrestling" mean?

@Mondragora99

2 жыл бұрын

@@natmason5528 After New Japan, DDT is the second bigger japanese promotion today. Ps: NOAH, Tokyo Joshi(promotion of Maki Itoh) and DDT are from CyberFight, a umbrella company who hold all those 3 together.

@natmason5528

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mondragora99 That's all well and good, but IMHO DDT is basically 🗑. As far as the guys, if I want to watch a show on NJPW level, then I'll go with NOAH.

The first deathmatch , getting Vince Russo into the business, and the booking of AEW done by his protege tony Khan. All things Cornette is indirectly responsible for. Hilarious

@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma

2 жыл бұрын

The first and third ones yeah, but how is he responsible at all for Russo?

@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma

2 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Sharwood I'd say that was more directly responsible than indirectly. I mean, he came up with the finish, even if he didn't mean to.

I dont think people like the guest artists

Corny!!!!

I would have loved seeing pride with the fake wrestlers thinking they were to do pro wrestling moves against real guys.

Meltzer has curated the opinion of modern Japanese wrestling to the hardcore fan. A lot of that stuff, even the stuff they rave about is MID.

Jim just plugs the vice stuff cus he in it and the pay him

@Blueswailer

2 жыл бұрын

Who gives a shit. Like you'd turn down a fat paycheck if your service/insight was in demand.

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

He's promoting something he's involved in? How dare he!

@gobo6175

2 жыл бұрын

You genius

@henrygvidonas9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@natebaxter9551 And he dares to get paid for his work and time, too! The nerve! The temerity! The absolute gall of the man! I seriously wonder how some commenters here interact with humanity in real life. Some seem to barely have higher brain functions.

@natebaxter9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrygvidonas9573 Carlos Lozado is a SCRUB!!! No disrespect.

Jim shouldn't watch FMW, he would blow himself up

It's a shame Cornette got poisoned against NJPW because of the Elite connection. Even without that I don't think that he would be into it or follow it because his love is for American wrestling. Even when he talks about the golden days of Japanese wrestling he contextualizes it, as here, with how they had all the greatest American stars working there in a pure, perfect environment. But it would have been nice if he'd been able to stay open minded to it at least so he could occasionally check out someone like Zack Zabre Jr or watch a great Okada vs Suzuki match. I do agree with him about the Americanization of Japanese wrestling overall and it's a shame. But even so they still do all of that shit relatively sparingly, compared to American promotions. It's not constant 'afterbirths', as Jim calls them, and run ins and backstage brawls and all of that shit where they talk and act as if there's not a camera pointed at them. That is the stuff that made American wrestling unwatchable to me. It's not what it was (and they had a pretty rough lockdown period) but current New Japan is sill the best wrestling promotion.

Hate the new art work I’m sorry

It was Cornette who booked one of the goriest angles ever with “The Master” Kevin Sullivan in SMW.

Sorry Jim I hate your new graphics for your landing pages The old ones were much more cooler These new ones Just don't get it The new stuff is run of the mill, if I didn't see jim cornette There's nothing there to make me have a look in

😎

you got the art work right on this one but it still SUCKS

Japanese wrestlers are hit and miss with me, same thing with luchadores.

New art is like new coke....bring back the classic

The problem with njpw currently is that they cater mainly towards kids like the wwe.

@iamthedave3

2 жыл бұрын

That's patently untrue. NJPW's catering to roughly the same age group as in America.

@joshuaDstarks

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching since 2016, and I can assure you they aren’t catering to children.

@patale1640

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaDstarks Please have you seen Great O Kahn?

@terrywhinery5741

2 жыл бұрын

Listen to any promo on there and then say that lol

@patale1640

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamthedave3 false, you look at the ticket buyers and live attendance. Way more small kids and women at a NJPW show then pro wrestling audiences in the states.

Hopefully there will be no Japanese Schoolgirls …… 👀

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Onita gets down like that, but hell who knows in regards to to others that he associates with.

@kevindouglas5333

2 жыл бұрын

@@leelohaskin7941 you clearly don't know much about Onita

@leelohaskin7941

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevindouglas5333 ohhhh boy... so he does get down like that, have there been any rumors then aside from that scandal with him and the porn star while he was in office? Smh then again he did say he broke Wilt Chamberlain s "record" , hope he didn't break it by way of statutory r*pe smh..🤦🏽‍♀️

Jim is probably the worst person to give wreslting advice. It’s public knowledge the only reason he got where he is was because of what he was willing to give up to Pat Patterson.

All the vice stuff is stupid