I'm only about 7 to 10 minutes as I type this but Jewish guy here has a very very very good and clear understanding of all of this.

Very important work. Building bridges between the 2 great houses of faith. As a Christian I can certainly appreciate the Jewish people and the gifts they have bestowed upon the world. I am grateful for the life and death and life of Jesus of Nazareth and his early followers who brought many of these gifts to the gentile world. While I love my faith I am kept from being arrogant by the fact that we have caused so much unnecessary pain and sorrow to our Jewish brothers and sisters. I can appreciate the one I call my messiah, while allowing and respecting the Jewish people to disagree on who he is. It is nothing but pride and arrogance to deny the very people who created the concept, their right to decide his identity, as a people.

@aweiss5206

2 жыл бұрын

Pain and sorrow?

@richardbluett958

2 жыл бұрын

@@aweiss5206 The Jews killed by Christians because they would not convert to Christianity, does that answer your question. OH and don't forget the Holocaust, learn your history.

@paradigmshift7095

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Excellant, I enjoyed the presentation very much.

I love listening to intellectuals like this.

In fairness, the idea that prophecy is only about -- or is focused only on -- foretelling is not necessarily a Christian notion. A lot of Christians also know that prophecy is exhortation. I guess the focus on prediction/ foretelling has been because of media hype (in recent times, particularly), and also the emergence of movements that promote reading of prophecies as chronological maps pertaining to our time (there has been many such movements across the church's history).

The question/answer needs more volume. Okay, they finally picked up a microphone.

We need this in Spanish

Tovia Singer you tube channel explains this better

@secallen

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Jews for Judaism is another excellent channel. See also Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi's debates with a messianic Jew/church pastor.

I think one of the main points about the emphasis on uniqueness is this: As Michael Peppard said himself, it allows Christians to refocus. For example, that the Gospel of John's discussion of the Word was thought to be uniquely Christian; we never knew that this is common Midrash. But knowing this now allows us to learn that what's unique in the Johannine Evangelion is the notion that the word was made flesh. Hence, it allows us to focus our attention on the mystery of Incarnation. Other example is Paul's idea of the rapture, the idea that the end days is happening already, it has began. While we tend to focus on the notion that salvation has already attained, we forget that this 'already' aspect should also refocus our attention that this 'already' thing is already the 'end days'. So, just as Peppard said, it allows us to see the brokenness of our current world. How prepared are we now that the end days are already happening in our midst.

@richardbluett958

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You do realize Paul thought he was living in the last days, and like everything in the new testament was proven wrong, study Tanakh and find the truth, and the kingdom of G-d will be on earth not heaven, Zechariah 8 : 20 - 23 20 So said the Lord of Hosts: [There will] yet [be a time] that peoples and the inhabitants of many cities shall come. 21 And the inhabitants of one shall go to another, saying, "Let us go to pray before the Lord and to entreat the Lord of Hosts. I, too, will go." 22 And many peoples and powerful nations shall come to entreat the Lord of Hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord. 23 So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." They don't teach this in church, because it proves the new testament is wrong, and a Roman invention, because Rome never fell it changed it's name to the holy Roman church.

18:00 - Paul's writing and letters didn't suggest this.

Centuries of persecutions and blood libels and hitlers condemnations voiced by Luther in the kristalnacht event, as the protocols of the elders of zion.

Brethren: You've missed one vitally important act in presenting a unification and/or dialogue between Jews and Catholics...Catholics are not Christian followers of Ravi Mashiach Yeshua's teachings. He taught, "Call no man your Father, Rabbi, nor Teacher, for there is only One Father Adonai, and I am your Rabbi and Teacher. The Catholics bow down to and worship icons and pray for the dead to appear. Ravi Mashiach Yeshua never taught anyone to do that. They call their religious idol worshipping leaders "Father" although Ravi Mashiach Yeshua commanded otherwise and the list continues. The only way that Orthodox Jews and Catholics could unite would be to continue to disobey Ravi Mashiach Yeshua's teachings and position. You both have done this today. God forgive you, for you know NOT what you're doing. You have chose to remain blind.

Acts 2:38 the real message of salvation! 🙌

@ncarmstron

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Who needs Jesus when we’ve got a quote from Peter, placed on his lips by an anonymous writer 50 years later?

They? They did accept Messiah. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John n etc were Hebrew. We are THEY if we are grafted in. Romans 11

@richardbluett958

2 жыл бұрын

Who wrote your gospels it wasn't Matthew Mark Luke or John it was Rome.

@thewizardoz3917

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardbluett958, they were literally persecuted by Rome. Paul, who was the human author of most of the New Testament, literally got his head chopped off when he had an audience with Emperor Nero.

@richardbluett958

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewizardoz3917 I have been all over the internet looking for Paul's death and no historians know how he died all you have are the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church, and as I have told a lot of people on here the church follows Paul and not Jesus or his disciples who walked with Jesus and learned from him his teachings, Paul even called them false apostles, so who do you follow Paul or Jesus, and Jesus was killed by Rome not by the Jews, The Romans killed 100.000 Jews on the cross, so Jesus was not the only one.

@thewizardoz3917

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardbluett958, I never said they were killed by the Jews. By this point in time, the Jews needed Roman permission to have somebody put to death. And on the subject of “false apostles,” he wasn’t talking about anybody I mentioned above. Paul and the 12 mutually accepted each other. Moving on to traditions, while they aren’t very good for doctrine, they can be a fairly decent historical record. It’s because of this that we know that Paul was beheaded by the Romans. Also, on an unrelated note, the Romans crucified Jews, Greeks, Africans, Gauls, other Romans, and just about every type of person imaginable.

@richardbluett958

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewizardoz3917 This is the place where the Apostle Paul spent 3 years on his third missionary journey, planting a church and training it’s leaders. This is the church to whom he wrote the book we know as Ephesians, his letter to them while he was in prison. Some scholars and historians say Ephesus was the most important Roman city in all of Asia Minor. By the time Paul arrived in about 53 A.D., the city had around 250,000 people. Most importantly, the Revelation letter to the church in Ephesus is one you should pay attention to as Jesus directly addresses them. “To the messenger of the congregation in Ephesus write: These things says he who holds the seven stars in his right hand, he who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands. 2 I know your works, and your labor, and your endurance, and that you are not able to put up with those who are evil, and you tested those who call themselves apostles (and they are not), and found them false, This is Jesus talking about Paul and his false teachings, because whether you know it or not the disciples of Jesus kept the Torah, and kept the sin offerings and the Sabbaths, after Jesus died. and the other thing nowhere in the Hebrew scriptures does it say messiah will die for anybody's sin, and Jesus did not fulfill one one prophecy of messiah.

I always felt bad for all of the persecution the Jewish people went through throughout the centuries, but at the same time I think to myself why did they not all eventually accept Jesus as the Messiah overtime and have the two religions merging into one around the time of the New Testament. That would have made it more simple for all of humanity. I understand the times they lived in and I also understand the Hebrew traditions of the Torah, but it seemed like a new world had emerged and for me I would want to be part of that - sort of what's happening right now in 2020.

@aweiss5206

2 жыл бұрын

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@room7594

2 жыл бұрын

The orthodox Jewish idea is that when the real “messiah” (I use quotes because in Hebrew messiah simply means anointed, and there have been many messiahs recorded in tanahk including Cyrus a non-Jew) comes they will actually fulfill all the prophecies. Including the falsifiable ones that remain unfulfilled; Like those that say that the messiah will be a man who rebukes the nations of the world. It says the nations will realize that G-d is G-d. It says the knowledge of G-d will cover the earth as water covers the sea. At that time there will be no disagreement about G-d. So the Jewish hope is for just what you say: A world of agreement and knowledge of G-d. The Jewish hope has never been that a god-man comes and sacrifices himself (the death of the innocent for the sins of the wicked is explicitly rejected in tanakh) and we drink his blood (again prohibited) and flesh and then we worship the man god with G-d(expressly prohibited) in a world of war and evil. All while waiting for the man-god to return “very soon” to fulfill any falsifiable (and obviously evident) prophecy. But rather that the world will come to the knowledge of G-d and will have their sins forgotten through repentance (that is through turning from evil; the salvation plan for man as outlined all over Tanakh see Ezekiel 18). Jews believe many things about that time that are written in the Bible: there will not be the study of war, and of a time when swords are beaten into plowshares etc. it is a lot to put in a KZread reply. But if you are interested you can seek more about Judaism.

@richardbluett958

2 жыл бұрын

Because G-d told them not to follow false god's, Jesus is a false god.

@yoseffeigenbaum9639

2 жыл бұрын

It would seem from the NT texts that Jesus' disciples were expecting the Jewish idea of the messiah and not the Christian one. Only much later when Jesus failed to return did the shift to a new kind of messiah, totally disconnected to the Tanachic idea, occur within Christian doctrine.

@jonathanbarnes3061

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Tradition.

Didn't the Pharisees use the word of God to benefit themselves?

@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373

2 жыл бұрын

Including Paul

@room7594

2 жыл бұрын

@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 Don’t muzzle that ox! Oral Torah/tradition/interpretation is evil unless paul is speaking…🙄

@secallen

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@@Truth.is.winning Why is the Pauline cult so popular? Why is islam so popular? Because they are easy. Say a few words and you are saved.