Only here because of Neil and Ronnie Montrose, RIP brothers

@Augfordpdoggie

2 жыл бұрын

yea....this music is awful...so is the other song Marabi...just awful

Vocally it's very typical of the 80s but the playing from everyone is unbelievable and what an unbelievable treat to hear Jeff Berlin, Neil Peart and Scott Henderson playing together who all sound fantastic. RIP Neil Peart & Ronnie Montrose

Extremely sad for Neil Peart`s death. His contributions to music , poetry, literature and above all, drumming are imense. Thank you for touching and enhancing our lives with your art. Edgar Froese once wisely said :“There is no death, there is just a change of our cosmic address.” , i really hope he is right and Neil and other greats are preparing a great gig somewhere out there.

I bought this album back in the 80's but it's only now that I fully appreciate just how "80's" it sounds.

I absolutely love this track. It's just a tremendous bit of upbeat rock fusion. Fantastic to hear Jeff and Neil Peart playing together. My favourite bassist and my favourite drummer!

@karlsalocks

6 жыл бұрын

And apparently Neil playing on this track was a nightmare (heard from various people who were at the session). Playing cool fills to Tom Sawyer isn't in the same league as playing with a real, elite bassist

@mzmadmike

6 жыл бұрын

"A real, elite bassist"? Sorry, I've seen both live repeatedly. Jeff's a legend--half history and half myth. Geddy's a bass god, at this point on par with Jack Bruce.

@karlsalocks

6 жыл бұрын

No disrespect intended re Geddy. He's a very solid rock bassist. I've seen both live as well. On that note, I absolutely stick to what I said. I should note that playing jazz/fusion is significantly, significantly, significantly more difficult than rock, and makes musicians who pursue the style WAY more versed in a very wide spectrum of styles, and difficulty levels, harmonic concepts, etc. A guy like Steve Vai is great, but he'd be a true deer in the headlights trying to do what guys like Frank Gambale, Scott Henderson, and Allan Holdsworth do (please don't take issue there. The guy has problems even improvising over a simple blues. Throw some real harmonic changes and I'd bet my life on it that he would be locked up). The reverse, not so much. Those guys would easily hang with Vai-esque rock. That said, Neil is solid and recognizable for what he does, but take any really experienced drummer (I don't mean someone who never outgrew just being a rock dude), and he isn't exactly a jaw dropper, and no, the guy can't seem to swing to save his life. I could see Jeff having a problem with that. Anyway, my 2 cents. Not trying to offend!

@XanAxDdu

5 жыл бұрын

i may remember you the opening track from the album product of brand x as prog fusion from 1979

@RiquezaEmGotas

4 жыл бұрын

​@@karlsalocks Sorry but i saw Berlin replacing Chris Squire at ABWH tour and although he is technically light years ahead of Squire he could not reproduce the feel, the sound and agression of squire`s bass lines. He is a jazzy guy, he barely touches the strings, he is not fit for Prog Rock or Rock and Roll period.

If you listen to Rush's Hold your fire record, you will hear Geddy playing several bass lines and phrases that are heavily influenced by Jeff Berlin. G. Lee started to use bass chords and arpeggios more often right after Neil's performance on J.Berlin's Champion record.

@pilotpete405

3 жыл бұрын

Listen to the intro of prime mover and compare it to this intro. Quite similar!

@RiquezaEmGotas

3 жыл бұрын

@@pilotpete405 Yes, Lee was under Berlin's influence during the late 80s.

I love this album.

I always loved this song. Great uplifting lyrics and vibe. An excellent memory from the 80s. Thanks for posting Bryan.

Great song. I have this on record and CD. If it's still available go buy this CD. It's not available on iTunes which is a shame. This CD and Pump It are among the greatest recordings of their time. Jeff moves me!

Neil Ellwood Peart RIP

Happy to do it. I really love this album!

Love coming here after hearing about Neil and seeing all the recent comments about Neil...definitely can hear the subsequent influence in Geddy Lee

Love this album and remember all those great artists of that time. Thank you for the memories. :)

Thanks for posting!!

Neil Peart and Steve Smith on this track.

Very very good job.

I had this on cassette because of neil. I think it's fine except the snare is too loud lol

I remember hearing about this album via Guitar Player magazine in the late 80s. Never heard it until now. As much as I love Peart's playing, this is weird because it doesn't sound like him. I would never have guessed this was him if asked without foreknowledge. Cool that he did it, strange that it sounds like someone else.

@RobSwindell

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds exactly like Neil playing someone else's drums to me.

@unclerhombus

Жыл бұрын

They had to have Steve Smith come in and play over Neil’s recordings because his drumming was too stiff for this genre.

Who's on keyboards?

@Eklektik40

7 жыл бұрын

Clare Fischer and Walter Afanasieff.

@karilamervo5343

6 жыл бұрын

The late T Lavitz played the bulk of keys on this album.

@chapagnehopita

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Berlin - bass, backing vocals Scott Henderson - guitar Clare Fischer - keyboards Roger Love - vocals Neil Peart - drums Walter Afanasieff - keyboards Ronnie Montrose - backing vocals taken from my old cassette tape's liner notes :D

Berlin is a superb bassist but... i watched a video with him replacing Chris Squire at ABWH tour and although he is technically light years ahead of Squire he could not reproduce the feel, the sound and agression of squire`s bass lines. He is a jazzy guy, he barely touches the strings, he is not fit for Prog Rock or Rock and Roll period.

@RiquezaEmGotas

4 жыл бұрын

@UCRu_Y4CVAZNcHeR0nZt_39Q Yes, that is the point. Squire`s attitude vs. Berlin`s platitude.

@Boethius4748

4 жыл бұрын

If you think Berlin has a light touch then I hate to see what you think heavy handed is. Berlin has a light touch when it's called for but I've seen him play in person and he digs in pretty hard. He's also not strictly a Jazz guy. Squire's tone is aggresive largely due to his choice of gear and using a pick. Not saying that's bad. Squire, I think, had one of the most badass tones ever. Comparing his tone to Berlin's is apples and oranges, though.

@RiquezaEmGotas

4 жыл бұрын

@@Boethius4748 Well, J. Berlin said it himself in one of his clinics or videos. When talking about digging the fingers in the strings he said something like : if you want to play louder just crank the amp volume up and keep playing , no need to force your fingers through the strings. That is his style, nothing wrong with it but he is not apt for Rock and Rock or heavier music. I do not have a problem with that, i just like Squire`s sound, tone and attitude better.

@Boethius4748

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiquezaEmGotas i don't disagree on the tone at all. He may have said that and I'm sure he meant it But he does get in it despite that. Not to the point of pounding the shit out of the strings but it's not what I'd define as a light touch. fwiw I don't Squire played particularly hard, either.

@RiquezaEmGotas

4 жыл бұрын

@@Boethius4748 Ok, i like Berlin`s style too but more in the Jazz Rock style he used to play with Bruford, he certainly had more puch in the late seventies.

Niel's style fits this track! Unfortunately he has a very stale swing, especially back then. You have to consider the fact that all he played was Rush and he put everything into it playing with the same 2 guys touring and recording with not much of a break. Just giving my old hero a little slack. The other tune he played on is a good tune but the drums are weak and it sounds like Steve Smith at the end. It's strange. With that said I've been into Berlin since The Bruford Band. Scott Henderson is like mixing Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth and Stevie Ray Vaughn! He's so good and has refined his style and sound over the years. He's really found his own sound! It's not the most unique sound but it's derived from totally original players Who have unique sounds... So it's carrying on the legacy of Holdsworth who just past away. Stevie Ray! Jeff Beck is still going strong. Anyways if you haven't!? Check out VITAL TECH TONES with Scott Henderson, Steve Smith and Victor Wooten. They made two CD's in '98 n' '00. In your face raw nasty Fusion (especially VTT2)

@mzmadmike

6 жыл бұрын

I actually can't tell it's Neil. Sounds like a generic drummer. If that's what they wanted, he did perfectly. And the timing is excellent. But it lacks character.

The cover art is one of the worst EVER for a fusion LP ... but 50% of the tracks are really very good. Wouldn't part with this disc, though it's hardly in the same league as Berlin's earlier work with Allan Holdsworth and Bruford!

@email3575

3 жыл бұрын

who listens to music for the cover art, doesnt matter, especially jazz and fusion, those genres as a whole are about the music, very little if anything is put in to the cover art unless it is either 60s blue note, or 70s ecm to be kind of noir or artful, thats about it who cares. this cover doesnt matter who cares

Didn't know this existed until today. Not good fusion, not good rock. Just kind of dated and boring. Jeff Berlin is a good player but I didn't notice him hardly at all here and the reason I'm here, RIP Neil.

@karilamervo5343

4 жыл бұрын

Rest in your own shit, whoever Colin

@DamienDrake

4 жыл бұрын

It's okay, Kari. One day you'll grow up and realize opinions are like assholes. Speaking of which...

@colinburroughs9871

4 жыл бұрын

@@karilamervo5343 lol... engrish lesson for the day, "whomever" .. song still isn't good. Thanks for playing though.

@karilamervo5343

4 жыл бұрын

Colin, apologies for me being all too vulgar. We have our opinions here in the free world.

@Tannhauser62

2 жыл бұрын

@@karilamervo5343 You were right the first time. He's an idiot.