Jeep Willys Xtreme Recon vs. Jeep Rubicon Xtreme Recon!
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Jeep Wrangler Willys Xtreme Recon vs. Jeep Rubicon Xtreme Recon
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Can't decide between a Jeep Wrangler Willys Xtreme Recon and Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Xtreme Recon? I thought it was the perfect time to compare my High-Velocity Rubicon XR with my Dad's Gobi Willys XR. Which Xtreme Recon Jeep Wrangler is right for you? Let us know in the comments!
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Thanks for watching! Which one are you going with?
@jasonrandall6473
Жыл бұрын
I ordered the diesel from your dealer last month. Looking forward to the road trip back to New Mexico
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Looking to forward to you picking it up!
@Verb130
Жыл бұрын
I have a '21 Jeep Rubicon stripped down on options inside and out (nothing extra) because I'm building it up. The only factory upgrades I did was 2.0 Engine, 8 speed auto transmission, hard top, dark gray paint, tow package (a must), floor mats and spare tire carrier. I have put aftermarket: bumpers, side armor/sliders, two inch lift, sector shaft brace, power stearing boost valve with cooler, 37's on bead lockers, and running 5.13 gears. It does everything I want offroad and drive excellent even at highway speed.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great options and a good idea!
@lizzieEray91
Жыл бұрын
I have a 21' Willys Unlimited. LOVE my Sarge green.
One of your best videos. I will stay hooked on these two Jeeps, comparing and contrast how you build them out and hopefully how they perform comparatively on the same obstacles. Very interesting.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Stay tuned!
Another great video, have always wanted a closer look at a more base vs the rubicon… love your Jeep and the set up and you’ve given me something to chew on… keep up the great work 👍
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Awesome video very informative thanks Matt
Awesome vid! My 2023 Willy’s XR in sarge green should be here any day now! I also got tan seats like your dad! I can’t wait!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You’ll love it!
Ordered a ‘23 Willys XR in Granite Crystal, can’t wait for it to get here. That Gobi looks incredible too. I like how the Willys XR is becoming an alternative to the Rubicon. Lower price point, similar creature comforts and you can always add leather seats, lockers, and discos aftermarket if you need them.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You’ll love yours when it comes in, we took both to the beach and they did amazing on the sand!
Matt, these are excellent videos. Very informative and have been very helpful in deciding what I want to order as I am new to the jeep world.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc!
As a new subscriber I find your presentations to be well done. We recently bought a Wrangler sport so we are new to the Jeep family and enjoy seeing videos of other peoples vehicles. Keep them coming, and all the best.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! Definitely stay tuned for a ton of advice! Happy jeeping!
@goldsh24
Жыл бұрын
Yea this guys delivery is top notch.. quick, informative, no bs.
Great video. Looking forward to your future content.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! This will be a fun channel for sure!
I ordered a Willy’s with XR in august! My brother has a 392 with XR and that’s what got me hooked! Great video!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! You both will love them!
Outstanding video!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Nice comparison- really helpful
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dawn!!!
I enjoyed this video. I have the High Tide edition and I'm really enjoying it!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The high tide is awesome!
Best video. Thank you so much. Just crashed my beautiful JKU and moving up to a Rubicon Recon model. I don’t want to do any mods like my JKU. Been there done that. Just want to enjoy. Thanks for this comprehensive video
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching!
very detailed; thank you. 👍🏼😎
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
I bought the Rubicon, one and done! Thanks Matt!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Same here!
both great choices!great video
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Loved the video. We are enjoying our new Sahara 4xE.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The 4xe is great!
Love this video. We are in the middle of trying to decide between these 2.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim!
Great channel - well done
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Great compare Matt actually between this video and your video on a 2.0 turbo super helpful and making my decisions. Struggling with the leather seats versus cloth when I order do you find the cloth is more problematic when you do a bunch of off roading Or do you intend on doing upgrades later to the seats
Thanks for information
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Not a problem!
That HV color looks sooo awesome!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I love it!!
Great video man! As someone that currently thinking about getting a jeep in future. Thanks for show the difference, I did drive my best friends jeep gladiator, last month when we went to big bend. I definitely think the v6 is under power. So a 2.0 turbo sounds like a great option.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad this could help!
very good presentation..good job
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
P.S. I also got it in black that way the front grill was “color matched” along with the black canvas top and black plastic fenders. Even my bumpers match. Plus I really like the finishing touches of the “All-Black” look provided by the black painted Moab wheels and blacked out badging. Did get heritage cloth interior to lighten it up inside.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great color choice! And the tan is awesome inside!
I just received my Gobi 392 when i ordered they dropped the XR package on 392’s but I’m still a happy camper
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! It’s a great color!
Love the high velocity yellow got the same one in 2 door .
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Love to hear it!
I enjoy seeing the contrast in color between gobi and HV
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I do too! Definitely cool colors!
I ordered a 2022 Willys Sport JLU with the canvas top and six speed manual with no creature comforts it’s an amazingly simple vehicle that has more capabilities stock than I still have the courage to use. Yet compared to my father-in-law’s 1969 Dauntless CJ5 the 2022 Willys Sport is a luxury vehicle!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you like it!
That willys jeep looks amazing
You make an excellent you tube video! I Love the new XR,… I have one on order, hopefully here this fall. Would love to hear your thoughts on mods for the wheels? I haven’t seen one ‘in the wild’ yet, but am considering 1.25” wheel spacer - do you think the XR needs a little more aggressive stance (hard for me to tell until I see one in person). Would also love to see some clips with the Jeep ‘in action’, even on some mild off-road terrain
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Video coming soon ! Just got back from a day wheeling! I like the offset of them stock but you could go wider!
I love my 2 door Willy’s 2021 white
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great combo!
Save money & buy the Willys, then spend a few bucks on the drivertrain & it can be just as capable as the Rubi.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great point, you can definitely modify it exactly the way you want with a Willy’s trim!
I have both. The Willys has the diesel and I added the front camera to the Willys.
Great video! Any update on 2023 392 or 20th Anniversary?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully soon! Thanks for watching!
Willys, Willis . Colored matched flares are nice for the MAL CRAWLER.
I have color matched fenders on my Willys Gladiator
Great video! My only hesitation with the XR package is that the bump stop gap is relatively small (
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
It is relatively small, I’m going to add a taller lift and it should work out fine!
Yeah I love your rubicon everything but the red dash
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Going to be changing that soon!
Excellent 👍👍😎🇺🇸
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Willys xr in velocity is my dream
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great pick!
Really wish they would offer the eco diesel with the extreme recon package. Was the hardest decision to make.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a tough choice!
@user-vb9kd3lg1s
Жыл бұрын
V6 all day, maintenance is cheaper and so is the fuel
On Jeep's website I can't build a Willys with the Recon pkg and cold weather group. I wonder if something changed since your dad built his? Thanks for the videos and I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys do with these cool Jeeps
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You can still build and order it with both, it is a website glitch!
It’s so sad to see that in 2023 jeep still won’t give standard led headlights for all models like almost every other manufacturer, do better Jeep, you’re charging 50-70k.
1:28 "The Willis" lol
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
😅😅
Love the video, but I'm really looking for a video reviewing/comparing the 2.0L JLU with Extreme package OFF ROAD... it must exist, it has to. Haven't found one yet though. Do you have a video for that? My fiancé and I work in the mountains but drive 1hour highway to get there. I'm leaning towards the Willy's 2.0L with Extreme package but not sure how it is off road. Technically, we need a 2.0L JLU on the way there and a 3.6L when we're there unless the 2.0L can handle steep hills on winding mountain roads, gravel or dirty roads, washed out roads and light-medium fording, probably no rock climbing but wooded and open trails for sure and large acreage off road driving.
One can paint match the Willy's after the purchase if one wants. Also, the Willy's Xtreme packaged comes with the Dana44 axles.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Good call!
You can use fabric markers to black out that red stitching on your Rubicon. I'm with you - if the red doesn't nicely complement the exterior color, puke. I would opt for the brown leather seats so the stitching is white and the dash is gray.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Good call!
Is the 'vented hood' really 'vented? Or is it just for looks? Both great looking machines!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Just for looks!
Hey Matt, do you know what impact the Extreme Recon package has on the towing/payload capacities for the Rubicon ER?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
They are the same as the standard rubicon from what I can tell!
The vented hood doesn’t work unless you replace the vents or cut out the bottom half of the vents I went with Valkyrie vents.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You are correct!
It needs to be said Willys comes standard with rear LSD, which isn't an option for a Rubicon. Arguably this gives you better on road capabilities
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great point!
Do you know if it's possible to get color match fenders on the High Tide?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You can order them seperately, yes
LOL tried to build these...I can't do both XR with Cold weather package..I click Cold weather and it delets the XR and vice versa. seems they want you just get the Rubi if you want XR and Cold weather
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
It’s a weird glitch on the site, we can build them with both on the Willy’s!
Did you get the sand color paint from the factory? I didn't think that was an option. I would definitely pull the trigger on having one built if that was the case.
@DIRTROADCRED
10 ай бұрын
Gobi came from the factory for a limited time!
Thanks for the valuable information 👍 I prefer willys How can I order a brand new wrangler from USA and receive it in GCC? Keep up the great work
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Exporting gets a little tricky and it would have to be done by the right broker!
Well the willies is closer to the original design and I see these "basic" jeeps sell really well. I would like to know how much lighter the willy is. There has to be a pretty big difference and that will also be noticable off road.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great point!
If only the Willy's XR had a rear locker! I didn't know we can finally get the dana 44's without the Rubicon trim. Jeep is heading the right way with better axles on lower trim levels.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Wish you could also! Or maybe lockers in the Willy’s trim!
@darrenroos6408
Жыл бұрын
The locker on the Rubicon might come in handy when rock crawling in 4-lo but for for daily winter driving the Willys will have a LSD in the rear while the Rubicon is an open dif.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@user-vb9kd3lg1s
Жыл бұрын
Ive been through some crazy trails in my bone stock Willys on 33’s, i can’t even imagine what i would need lockers for
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Lol even crazier trails!
Those color matched fenders are just going to get scratched! LOL!
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Lol you’re right!
I have a 2021 Mojave but I've been wondering if the Recon flares for the fenders would fit on the Mojave JT fenders? Thanks for the time
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I know the fronts will fit, the rear from what I’m hearing will with a bit of persuasion, not cutting just maybe a little heat to help mold the plastic!
@kennethmcfarland7097
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED awesome brother. I've been looking for a little bit extra coverage and I like the look of the flares. Thank you so very much for taking the time to help out. Hope y'all have a great rest of your weekend
In 2020 I got the Willy's & loved it, but I wanted lockers. So few months back I traded for 22 Sarge Rubicon 2.0L. Can you make a video about the offroad+ feature? I love using it in 4H. Very little to no vids about benefits & when best to use it.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Going to do one on the off road plus here soon, I had a chance to use it at the beach on the sand and it was awesome!!!!
@DelanoJ
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED awesome. Ur videos were big help to me as new Jeep owner & already subscribed to this channel
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! There will be a ton of new content on here weekly!
I have a sport s but with the vented hood how does that work ?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Did it come from the factory like that?
When is the extreme recon coming out again I don’t see it any more on website. Also how much does the extreme recon cost
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
It’s a $4000 package, it should be available on all non 392 packagez
@JohnnyDominoRican
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED thanks sorry I was looking only at 2 door jl and couldn’t find that package. Then realized it’s only for 4 doors
I have an honest question: Do the hood vents even work? AFAIK, they don't have any holes, and just spit water out the side through a channel in the insulation. Maybe air can seep through the insulation? I'm not sure.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
The hood vents are not functional from the factory!
I really wish they had the option on the Willys to not get the black grill...I wonder how much it would cost for a body shop to swap out a matching color grill
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I wish that also, I’d imagine 300-500 depending on the shop!
I love my gladiator willys. I just had to have a willys.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
They’re great!
Is there any difference in mileage between the two? What are they averaging at?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Seeing 22-23 mpg in both!
Does the Willys have the same axles as the Rubicon except without lockers?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
Good videos. What else have you done, your voice is very familiar.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a part of CJ off road/ and Susquehanna Automotive
@JeepingMo
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED good videos, your channel is growing quick.
Why is the off-road plus button gone on the Rubicon? Did they remove the ability to have the rear locker on in 4wd hi then? My rubi allows this when in off-road plus mode.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
They still have them mine is a 22 and I have the Button!
@jasonwhite6408
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED At 6:46 I don’t see it. Mine is above the sway bar disconnect button, so maybe they moved it.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
That was stock footage from probably an 18 or 19 which did not have it!
Did you mention the limited slip?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I believe so!
You able to do a video on the off road plus button. Very lil information on the web.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Funny you commented that.. stay tuned for Sunday’s video 👀
@cleveland53015
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED Awesome. 7 Jeep Badge of honor trails between Colorado and Tennessee....never messed with it lol. Did try out the off road "cruise control". Neat concept, but didn't really find it necessary unless down hill. Can't wait to see the vid. THANKS!
Another good video…… when are you gonna start tearing things apart..?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Very soon!!
I keep racking my brain on both a Willys recon or a base Rubicon. I never had lockers on my truck and I won't have time to work on my Jeep for at less a year. Willys should be good I think.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
It all depends on where you plan to take it, I’ve seen Jeeps without lockers conquer a ton of hard trails!
@darrenroos6408
Жыл бұрын
I am on my second base JL Rubicon, and absolutely love them; however, had the Willys XR been an option before, I would have picked it over the base Rubi.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
They are definitely very capable with the XR!
Xtreme recon was not an option when I got my 21 Willys back in Oct 2020. Suggestions on going with bigger tires using the stock rims and no mods to the suspension? Also no spacers.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
I would go for a taller tire with the same or close to the same width to make sure you don’t rub at full turn!
@patrickflores6232
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. Will you be doing a video about tires and the best setup?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Yes very soon!
Yes you can get COLOR MATCH FENDERS ON A WILLYS ,I OWN ONE.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
On a gladiator?
So the Rubicon has a cabin air filter, and from what I can tell from Jeep's website, the Willys does not. Do you know if there is a way to add one to the Willys?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting! I’ll have to double check that!
@williambedard8452
Жыл бұрын
It's in the technology package, just ordered one 2 weeks ago.
What kind of lift and tires do u have on that Willy??
@DIRTROADCRED
11 ай бұрын
Standard on the XR package
All. I miss in my sport from a rubicon would be the lockers even just a rear locker. All it needs, no need to be 25k more for a rear locker.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Right, good point
I would just get willy and just mod, you might lose warrenty but it saves tons of money
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Good call!
Quick question. I just bought a 2020 Wrangler unlimited Willys. Can I just go to a Jeep dealership and order this package to be installed??
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Nope this is an factory option
@Lifeisgood311
Жыл бұрын
@DIRT ROAD CRED well that's bogus lol
Please are both of them the same height ? If no, then may I know the difference ? Thank you !
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
They are very close, I think the Willy’s may be 0.25” or so taller!
@jazumi7798
Жыл бұрын
Lockers; transfer case; sway bar disconnects; all in the Rubicon for off roading along with some more minor things. If off roading isn’t your prime effort and just want a cool Jeep to play around with then the Willys is fine. I have owned both in the past and the Rubi is defiantly worth the extra money for the performance it brings. But- I’m thinking either the Willys or a Bronco for my next off roader. I have no plans on extreme off-roading.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Great comment! Really appreciate the input, definitely a lot to consider budget wise when deciding between them!
The willys xr recon gets Dana 44? I know the high tide doesnt just the 456 gears
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Yes they have the full size rubicon axles!
@Xcon00
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED Does the new high tide get Dana 44s?
Is the armour underneath the same?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Correct!
You mentioned that the wheels and tires are equal, but I believe the Willy's has 255's and the Rubicon has 285's. What do you think?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
On the Xtreme recon they are the same
@bloomfieldgriller2957
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED I see, I did not know that.
Willys would be the choice.
@DIRTROADCRED
9 ай бұрын
Love the willys
The only problem with the Xtreme Recon package is you can't option for a manual transmission
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Right)
I may have missed it, but what engine does your dad have in his Willy's?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
He has the 2.0!
@rockcity2157
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Can you get extreme recon on gladiator?
@DIRTROADCRED
10 ай бұрын
Nope! Hoping they might add it to the 2024.
@earlhamil731
10 ай бұрын
Maybe as a kit for dealer install?
@earlhamil731
10 ай бұрын
Seems to me from looking at the Jeep Performance Parts catalogue you can buy all the bits and pieces and DIY it
Love the red dash but not with the yellow. Please get those plastic bumpers off asap. They make my stomach hurt. 😩
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Lol they don’t make me too happy either, dash and bumper upgrades coming soon!
What color is the Willys
@DIRTROADCRED
11 ай бұрын
Gobi
Why cant you get the 3.6 v6 with the willys xr?
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You can!
@turtlesquadd
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED well I guess the website has a glitch because its wouldn't let me pick the 3.6. Maybe the dealer ordering system is different
@turtlesquadd
Жыл бұрын
Really the gladiator needs the xr willys package Id be down there tomorrow ordering one if they offered it
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@turtlesquadd
Жыл бұрын
Love my willy's gladiator but by the time I spend the money of 35s, lift, and a regear, jeep will offer a gladiator willys with the xr package
Willeys looks way better, but Rubi' ftw.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
It’s not “no way” to get colour matched grill and fenders. They are easy to paint actually.
@DIRTROADCRED
Жыл бұрын
You could just no way from factory
@shitloveaduck
Жыл бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED - True,,, I forgot to put smiley faces,,,,, I was being a smart*ss. Sorry about that!! I do have friends that painted them and liked the look. They take on most of the texture of the plastic so it’s not a smooth finish like the factory, except the grill of course. The silver looks good. Stronger colours like red or yellow looks kinda cheap on the painted plastic. I think those colours should have a smooth finish like yours. I like the Willys more so in my case as I’m never rock climbing and only in muddy fishing trails and the like. I HAD a 2019 Wrangler Rubicon diesel. Loved that!! Traded it for a 69 Bronco though. Straight across. I definitely did better in that trade. Now the only Jeep in the family is a Wrangler Sahara 4xe that my wife drives. She does just over 80% EV with it as we live on the edge of a city now.
Amazing how much they increased in $$$$ in 2023.
@DIRTROADCRED
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Unfortunately yes
Is it Willies or Willous
@DIRTROADCRED
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To be honest I’ve heard both at this point…. Lol
@SLICKW1993
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Willis, it’s been around since WWII. I get irritated when people say it wrong lol
really like the rubicon and it's options ... after a few Vodka shots I can move on pass the sticker price shock lol but kidding aside who ever designed this... hint, hint red does not always match with ever color ... truly wished they allowed ya to color match the inside colors same as on the fenders***
@DIRTROADCRED
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I wish that too!
I heard those hood vents are just for looks and not functional
@DIRTROADCRED
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You are correct!
4dr Willys XR would be my choice, unfortunate that their 2dr doesnt have a fastback rollcage like the 4dr though, just an ugly square one
@DIRTROADCRED
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That would be neat on the 2 door