Get you someone who looks at you the way David Patrick Harry looks at Jay Dyer

@uchennanwogu2142

11 ай бұрын

😅

@janntyler5950

4 ай бұрын

Bro 😂

@t.d6379

2 ай бұрын

You Internet Orthodox larping as Christians makes me sick. Honestly GO TO CHURCH get offline.

@FaithfulComforter

Ай бұрын

💀

Taking up my cross, sounds like work to me, working out my salvation, sounds like work to me. Suffering for His name's sake sounds like work to me, keeping and obeying God's commandments, sounds like work to me. Forgiving and loving your enemies sounds like work to me, repenting, and self-denial, sounds like work to me, presenting my body as a living sacrifice sounds like work to me, renewing my mind, sounds like work to me. Doing good works sounds like work to me! Visiting and praying for the sick sounds like work to me, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked sounds like work to me, visiting and caring for the widows sounds like work to me. Praying unceasingly sounds like work to me. Fatih without works is dead, amen.

@Flame1500

6 ай бұрын

They would say salvation =/= discipleship. We are saved by faith in Christ, with this salvation we are offered as a free gift we then follow Him not the other way around.

@dannisivoccia2712

Ай бұрын

Genuine faith is the root; works are the fruit, which includes obedience. Faith in Christ does need any additives to make one justified before God. "Without faith it is impossible to please God." God most certainly deems faith as paramount.

Paul said to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. James said faith without works is dead. It is sad when Calvinists say that simply believing is work. For God so loved the world that whoever believes ...

I would like to learn more about this topic. Can you reccomend any books to get me started?

@t.d6379

2 ай бұрын

The bible.

@FaithfulComforter

Ай бұрын

Yes I recommend the book Iustitia Dei: A History of The Christian Doctrine of Justification by Alister E McGrath

Algorithm boost.

Does the Orthodox Church believe people in general and other believers outside of the Orthodox Church are condemned? And if they don’t, what is the ultimate point of it being the one true church and being apart of it if salvation and a relationship with Christ can be attained outside of it?

@MrBrimbles

3 жыл бұрын

Only the Church has the truth, and joining it and following its teachings is the surest path to salvation. But only if you actually do follow its teachings after joining it. Receiving the truth and grace of the Church means you are closer to God, but you are also more culpable if you fall away from God, because you have been given an advantage that those outside of the Church do not have. Those outside of the Church may still be saved, even if they never find the Church during this lifetime. That is up to God. Only God is capable of seeing the entirety of a person's soul and determining whether their virtue outweighs their sin.

@JR-gj8kb

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph Kerr thanks for the reply. I understand that, but in a way it makes the church seem like a life jacket; you don’t need it to swim but it helps if you don’t know what you’re doing. Is the Church nothing more than a helper? Does it serve a necessary function in the life of the Christian in the explicit meaning of the word necessary?

@MrBrimbles

3 жыл бұрын

@@JR-gj8kb If you find the truth you should cling to it. Those who know the truth and choose to walk away from it, will be judged by Jesus Christ for doing so.

@JR-gj8kb

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph Kerr certainly a good reminder of the ultimate reality. Thanks

@BarbaPamino

2 жыл бұрын

We're in the Ark that'll take us through the flood. We can still throw some spare lifeboats out there and drag some of you along with us ;) I didn't know the official doctrine on what happens to the 90% of humanity than never experienced the Ecclesia, but I don't limit the power of the Lord. It's out of my hands. If all of you are saved as well despite yours rejection of the full Truth I won't be upset and say it's not fair, I'll rejoice that you're saved and with me in the Kingdom. But it's not up to me.

I don’t understand the meaning of Matthew 27:46? Why does Christ cry out “why hast thou forsaken me?” I’m confused :(

@billcynic1815

Жыл бұрын

He's quoting the beginning of Psalm 22, which is one of the most explicit Passion Psalms. Matthew's Gospel makes other references to this Psalm in the crucifixion (e.g. Matthew 27:35 to Psalm 22:18). I would strongly encourage you to read Psalm 22 while mindful of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection (pay particular attention to verse 24 in light of your question).

@sabrinafair35

Жыл бұрын

@@billcynic1815 Thank you!

@ACReji

6 ай бұрын

Probably Christ is quoting the first few verses for us to read the rest...sort of like check this chapter and how it relates to what i am going through. So its not about just quoting that verse...but knowing where that verse is coming from and what the theology that the verse is part of in that chapter of the Psalms

So it has to be created if it is temporal? Don't you believe the eternal energies can act temporally?

@nikstrt

2 ай бұрын

Even if he is not right in that argument the fact and the matter is that the trinity cannot be split , that all persons share the same will and that the persons indwell one another. So PSA goes out the window as a matter of pure Trinitarian Theology and Christology .

@dubbelkastrull

2 ай бұрын

@@nikstrt Nowhere does PSA say that the trinity split. Such a strawman. And nowhere does it suggest that their wills were opposed to each other.

@nikstrt

2 ай бұрын

@@dubbelkastrull Just so we are not talking past eachother , I am suggesting that if the PSA doctrine that you subscribe to requires the damnation of the Son by the Father then all the criticisms I provided in my original comment are true . However I don't know how you view the doctrine . But it is true that Luther, Calvin, Charles Hodge and modern reformed pastors like John Macarthur, RC Sproule, John Piper, CJ and the others mentioned in the article that Jay mentioned do express the blasphemous view that the Father damned the Son and turned his will away from the Son or that the Son became the object of the Father's wrath and they do put it forth as the basis for the imputed righteousness transaction . John Macarthur shockingly says that his heretical view on what happens on the cross is the "real meaning" if the cross. Curious to learn what YOU believe about PSA though.

@dubbelkastrull

2 ай бұрын

@nikstrt I think we can say that the human aspect of Christ underwent what we deserved. But this is something that the divine person of Christ willingly chose, hence he was never in disharmony with the will of the Father.

@nikstrt

2 ай бұрын

@@dubbelkastrull yes yes

John 3:16 For God So Loved the World [16] “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:14-15 [14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, [15] that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. John 6:29 [29] Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” John 6:39 [39] And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. John 6:40 [40] For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”John 6:47 [47] Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.

@gch8810

Жыл бұрын

Christ also says that the unrighteous will not see the kingdom of heaven.

@IT-SaacStudios

2 ай бұрын

@@gch8810Anyone who believes is seen as righteous in God’s eyes. No amount of work would be seen as righteous in God’s eyes.

@Averyaveragedeskin

Ай бұрын

@@IT-SaacStudios Yeah? We are saved by faith. Paul said to work out your faith with fear and trembling.

@IT-SaacStudios

Ай бұрын

@@Averyaveragedeskin He said to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, but that’s still after you’re saved. Salvation will mainly have a fire that burns through your works to test your foundation. But even if you suffer a great loss, you will still be saved.

@Averyaveragedeskin

Ай бұрын

@@IT-SaacStudios anyone who denies the son, he will deny in front of the father. If you place your faith in jesus, yet then deny him you will be damned. Of course no works done out of merit to earn salvation can grant you salvation, but true faith neccesarily produces good works.

Also, his understanding of Reformed theology is a caricature, at best. It seems he’s traded one form of fundamentalism for another.

@bolerobolero5668

3 жыл бұрын

How so?

@justinking3080

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t remotely deal with how Paul is using the text from Genesis 15 in his Epistle to the Romans. If anything, Paul’s use of the passage from Genesis affirms justification by faith.

@justinking3080

3 жыл бұрын

Reformed theology has come along way from the caricatures that he has posited. The Orthodox haven’t really commented upon or developed a theory of justification apart from condemning the Protestant view lol.

@Soulful96QC

3 жыл бұрын

@@justinking3080 These are assertions, not arguments, how does Paul's use of Genesis affirm justification by faith, how has the Orthodox view not developed a theory aside from critique? When making such claims, you should explain why this is the case, otherwise you are simply asserting without actually arguing anything to prove the Orthodox worldview or in this case, Dyer, wrong.

@justinking3080

3 жыл бұрын

Fair point. I guess I’m doing what Dyer is doing?

Dyer’s exegesis of the text is horrific

@gch8810

Жыл бұрын

How?

Algorithm boost.