Great show! Hopefully we’ll get more collabs with A2HH Mike D was cooking today 🔥🤣

@357jp357

Жыл бұрын

Yes he did!

This was fire man. Y’all gotta do this more often

@thebiggerreality18

Жыл бұрын

Facts

Good show Fellas! Nice to see these collabs with other Hip Hop channels like A2HH. I would like to see another Eeze invite.

Fantastic episode. I love that Mike held his own against the guys and I also love that you all gave him plenty of time to present his points and make his case. Hate it or love it Jarv was pretty consistent from the jump and wasn't moving the goalpost. Mike was kind of all over the place, but I think that's cuz he didn't look at it as Mike vs Jarv but Mike vs RRT. Would love to see more of this in some capacity. Jay in my opinion has been carried by production to some extent after Hard Knock Life, so while I wouldn't agree with Mike's point I can understand why he would make it. As far as white rappers go, I fuck with Action, Aesop, and El-P more than any of the previously named melanin deficient rappers. Freddie Gibbs social media presence has been at war with his rap career for a while now and this is basically the chickens coming home to roost. Gibbs is extremely talented, but he has become the epitome of all publicity isn't good publicity. He got clowned when he got with this chick, he got clowned when Jim Jones beat him up, he got clowned when Benny had him beat up, he's been clowned from his back and forth with Ak, and now he's being clowned by his BM, all of which looks like he brought on himself outside looking in. The bad part is I think there's a lane for him in sketches/stand up/acting where he can get a lot of this off but mixing it so closely with his rap career isn't working for him at all.

this is like if Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe debate each in an imaginary sports platform exchange ❤

Real Brothers linking up. I’m here for it.

Great show fellas. Always great to see my two favorite shows link up 🔥🔥🔥

This was dope! Salute to both platforms!!

Glad ya brought up supreme clientele. I’ve been saying that for years and people look at me like I’m crazy

Excellent content. Compelling and intellectual dialogue. Salute.

Great Debate. Props to Mike D. A great debater and kept it very professional. Cool, Calm, and collected the whole time. Valid points also 🫡

Great show guys

@TheRapRoundtable

Жыл бұрын

🫡

More collabs A2HH/TRRT 👍🏾💯💪🏾

I thought it was a good debate but everybody is gonna have their own opinions ultimately!!

Mike D moves the goal post like he work on a soccer field

overall I agree with Mike...Ye was the driving force, because he was ascending towards his breakthrough and championship run...and honestly Ye got just as much out of it being on Rocafella ...ala Em getting the Dre cosign imo.. ...the carried part is what got you guys pushin back but I don't think he's sayin Jay aint Jay without Ye....he's saying Jay was MJ and to everyones surprise Ye turned out to be Kobe ...and "Kobe" went on his Championship run with a sound and direction he started circa Blueprint 2...thats not taking anything away from Jay...its giving Ye his acknowledgement as a pure producer and album maker...its arguable sure but its a solid argument..when you line up all the hits and hit albums Ye has produced over his career its right there... ...Just 🔥 may have hit more game winning shots for a time during that early period...but in retrospect the playbook was Ye and the college dropout album run was Ye bringing home the rings in his prime and becoming a generational talent... ...but Mike bro you trippin sayin Hitboy aint "carry" Nas on the recent run 😆...the type of artists may be different but its the same thing... you had Hov as goat before the Kings Disease run like myself...Hitboy alone made a potential late Nas comeback win even possible imo 🏆

@TheRapRoundtable

Жыл бұрын

Dope comment but we’re pushing back on the “carried” part because that’s what he said and it was inaccurate. From 01 to present? Not accurate. Mike tried to make it seem like Jay wasn’t Jay w/o Ye when in reality he didn’t “need” Ye until 2009

Literally my whole point against Mike was to be careful giving Kanye so much credit because then u gonna have to give hitboy that same light if even more because hitboy literally revived Nas for 4 albums in a row lol

@jermaineplummer4042

Жыл бұрын

Bro Nas show up to rap tho fuck

@kes9298

Жыл бұрын

Nah Nas and Hit are carrying that 50/50. Nas is going on 50 and supposed to be out of his prime, but he is still rapping and getting better. Jay was in his prime when the work with Kanye was being done. That’s not the same at all.

@Losmarcellalmighty

Жыл бұрын

Hitboy definitely deserves a lot of that credit and I don’t think Nas has a problem giving it

@bundydachosen1

Жыл бұрын

@@kes9298 Jay worked with many producers so to just say Kanye carried Jay is gross negligence on Mikes part ! Meanwhile hit is producing entire Nas albums but it’s different ? Ima need u to explain

@bundydachosen1

Жыл бұрын

@@Losmarcellalmighty absolutely Nas doesn’t mind because to deny it would be an insult on our intelligence lol

48:20 - He was just doing it for the love 😂

Dope show but Mike D lucky Jarv didn't tag me in cause that while argument would've been COOKED 🦃🍗

@TheRapRoundtable

Жыл бұрын

What point didn’t we cover that you would have? We covered every angle of the Mike D’s pandering to Nas fans take

They wanna do to Griselda what they did to Mobb Deep. The core fans refused to let them grow and evolve. Conway is gonna have to ignore them and just let the art lead him cause there’s no satisfying those types of people

Revisit Best of Both Worlds- Jay & Kelly.

At 1:23:27....SMH.. Deeni loses his cool. You were really doing well King. Jay would be proud of your contribution to the discussion.

@isaacsello6097

Жыл бұрын

Normally, the coolest head on the table.

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Mike D cooked with Facts as Jarv was in Losing end of Debate he starts to say Mike changing arguments flip floppin,,, Nah he came with Great points Just Blaze did switch production sound, Jay work suffered with no Ye

@TheRapRoundtable

Жыл бұрын

Imagine saying he cooked with facts when majority of what he mentioned had nothing to do with the topic at hand Lmfao. The man said from 01 to present. That’s also not accurate. But “he cooked with facts”. Cool LOL

How Nas got brought up in a Jay/Ye conversation boggles my mind but not on this channel To try and compare Hit-Boy producing for Nas 30 yrs in to Jay latching on with Ye 5 yrs after RD is just ludicrous, just shows y’all were flailing at that point RR as Mike was debating circles around y’all

DOA was a street record, I understand what y’all saying but how y’all gonna tell the guy who made the record saying it was a street record it’s a street record. How y’all gonna switch it. Doesn’t make sense

Revisionist history. Ppl forget during MDBTF Ye was in the hot seat n Jay was the only A lister left in his corner. Their collaboration was partly Hov trying to keep Ye validated in the masses.

Kanye aint carry no Jay Z. Lot of Jays best work was with Just Blaze and his MC skill on Black Album alone carries itself

Kanye produced 4 songs on the next three albums after the blueprint. 4 out of 56 songs

Mike D kinda plays politics in a way. He is bias at times.

Kd3 did 30k but guess the point stands

@marcusrose5943

Жыл бұрын

@@flyshitonly24 I doubt that but okay

Magna carta album is not terrible its okay

Can’t front, The absolute Hate For Jay do be Wild Suspicious tho lmao

Bodied Mike D with the Hit Boy comparison. Exposed the naS 🍆 D ridin The goalpost movin was outrageous 3000 the 🐐. These guys out here with 3 verses per song, 3 opportunities to outdo Andre and cant. Agree with Deeni. These naS stans be talkin a lot on the internet but naS aint hittin like that on real ground in earth. Slow Jams was a Twista record. Thats why it was big. The anticipation for that new Twista was huge. Kingdom Come had some cuts Good show. Jarv a funny dude.