is there a different way of purchasing these bits besides registering with Japanese Amazon?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

I just found a couple third party sellers on Amazon USA that have Amazon fulfillment of the Prokon Sakisubo bits. I added these links in the video description. VESSEL PROKON Sakisubo bit: amzn.to/3EHkK98 VESSEL PROKON Sakisubo bit 150mm: amzn.to/3ucSzdr

@UncleIvan1

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug thank you sir, yes I have purchased few things from them. obviously not the same variety and selection. I would have to pay another subscription if I register with Japanese Amazon right?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

@@UncleIvan1 It will not cost you anything to create an Amazon Japan account. Only if you wanted an Amazon Japan Prime Membership would you incur additional costs. If you have an Amazon Prime membership here in the USA, the benefits will not transfer to the Amazon Japan site. But you can setup a non Amazon Prime account on Amazon Japan and choose Priority shipping (more $) when you check out. I personally do not have an Amazon Prime Japan account, just regular Amazon Account in Japan and Amazon Prime here in USA.

OMG!!! Thank you for explaining the JIS dot on the "phillips" screw. Around 2012: I had a job (one of my first) to wall mount a flatscreen. The TV was on leg-brackets. There were these huge (like between a dime and a penny size) "phillips" screws with the dot, holding the leg brackets to the back of the TV. My large phillips kept caming out, it wouldnt grab the screw. I had to use a large pliers to slowly unscrew the "bolts" I sent pictures, and asked a ton of people, no one knew what that dot meant.

Used these for YEARS with my Makita impact. Love them

Because well made tools are intrinsically beautiful.

I’m about $300 in on Vessel/Anex/Sunflag/Omie Seiki/KTC/Etc bits. And yes, I have the purple Makita TD172D drill too.

@edwardtan1354

Жыл бұрын

looks like someone saw AvE's video on the JDM drill

@markm0000

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardtan1354 Hello fellow AvE viewer. We find ourselves in the deep corners of the internet discussing tools from the land of cherry blossoms and karaoke.

In another life, I was a copier tech and we started supporting Canon color copiers. We constantly stripped Phillips screws and it turns out US Phillips were loose in JIS screws. When we switched to JIS bit inserts I never stripped another screw. The tolerances were so tight that occasionally the bit would pull out of the screwdriver bit holder. The fit on US screw had no play. I use the for anything manufactured in Asia. Computers, electronics, toys, etc. They are so much better than Phillips. Ah! and another thing, the bits were Vessel. They lasted forever. Well hardened.

This is really helpful. Thank you for all the videos!

I work on industrial Kubota engines and those “Philips” screws would constantly get stripped out with my set of Dewalt bits even though they were the right size. Now I realize the JIS design is slightly more precise and that extra few degrees is more than enough grip to prevent rounding a nut. I will order some bits and never have be frustrated again. Thank you very much for these videos. I have several JDM tools and I cherish them just as much as my tools made here.

Great video 👍 Can’t wait to see more thanks

That was great, very informative.

Vessel has some really neat stuff. I have a mini kit I use around the house. Honestly want more of their stuff

Oh you went All In!!! Thank you as always -CY Castor

Same here. I also have the Japanese built Makita TD172D impact driver. It performs better than the American version of the same tool. Working for a Japanese company I've had to travel to Japan for work and I took the opportunity to pick up a few tools while I was there. Years ago I learned about Vessel screw drivers and purchase a set for my Honda motorcycle. It definitely has helped with preventing me from stripping the heads of soft screws on both my motorcycles and both of my Honda cars.

@Dave-dh7rt

Жыл бұрын

Man, I just bought the TD002G with the 4.0AH battery. It doesnt work right with lots of play with the fuckin american 1/4" hex adaptor. Its a BEAUTIFUL impact driver. The quality and the features on the driver is extremely impressive

@El_Diablo_LI

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave-dh7rt This is why you need to invest in some of the Vessel bits that are shown in this video. You need bits that are 13mm detent, and not the 5mm decent like we use in the US.

The reason I found out about vessel is because I have a Japanese motorcycle and it uses JIS screws so I had to get JIS bits for it, and vessel seems to be the gold standard

Soo good! Thanks a lot!

Awesome Japanese company high quality tools I bought some vessels as well they have no play in the Philips screws. Also I got them so I can use it on my Lexus 100% made in Japan.

I disagree with one point: Phillips drivers are absolutely not compatible with JIS, even though the reverse usually works well enough. Phillips is designed to slip, using them in JIS fastners is just a recipe for bunged up, stripped out screw heads. If you work on Japanese made / designed products, bottom line: use JIS drivers. For professionals, especially (mechanics and equipment technicians) it's non-negotiable, IMO. The first guy working on a particular screw might get it out and back in, but ruin it for anyone else who touches it after him.

You certainly opened my eyes for the JA-pan style tool game, and holy shenanigans are they The Bees Knees for precision and “fit”. I am guilty of chucking my 13mil bits in a drill and “customizing” the anvil to fit my Red Tools.

I bought td173D because of its smoother operation compared to all other impact drivers I have used.

I use JIS cross points on my Subaru vehicles. Perfect. Thanks

I have Vessel Robertson(square drive) bits that work better and outlast the hardware store ones. And, living in Canada, I use a lot of Robertson screws.

@math7qc

11 ай бұрын

Where did you buy this bits?? I live in Canada too! (Montréal)

Thank you for making this. Very interesting to see the wide variety. Been loving my vessel and pb swiss.

Just spent 3 weeks in Japan and discovered a new world of tools. Much to my wifes indignation, I spent too many hours trawling through back street tool shops. Needless to say, came back with luggage heavily weighed down with Japanese goodies.

@bzeug

8 ай бұрын

Cool. You are living my dream right now. What kinds of tools are forbidden in luggage if any? Is there some way to show on google maps where you were? I would love to know the details.

@lindsaybrown7357

8 ай бұрын

@@bzeug Not sure about Google maps. Started in Tokyo, ended up in Kyoto with Kanazawa and Okayama in between. Electric City in Tokyo magical place. Scored genuine Mitotuyo for half what I'd pay back home. Small place not far from Kyoto Station was an Aladdin's cave of tools, some quite old. Because I spent so much the happy shop keeper plied me with more. Just gotta avoid the big shopping complexes and walk the back streets. This is where you make the discoveries and meet the real people.

Using American standard Phillips tools on JIS screws causes damage to the screws if you torque too hard on it. Best to use JIS and save the headaches.

@markm0000

Жыл бұрын

I work on Kubota stuff and those screws have been the bane of my existence. They are impossible to remove with standard Phillips screwdrivers once they have a little rust. I got the right bits now thanks to this video and hopefully no more problems.

I've been buying lots of Vessel stuff, I use the screwdrivers daily at work

@Raeilgunne

Жыл бұрын

mostly got into them cause the ball handle screwdriver is so much more comfortable to use than any other handle I've used across dozens of brands.

Has anyone made a 13mm adapter for 9mm setups? I will use them in my JP Makita impact, but I'd like to use them in my US tools. I've cut my own 9mm detents into the shafts, and it works fine... until the day comes that it doesn't. Lol.

I just buy the Vessel bits and grind off the difference to make them fit in north american impact drivers. I then Birchwood Casey Super Blue to make them black where I grinded it. Also the Vessel Japanese impact sockets that fit 1/4 hex drive impact drivers are amazing and I use them all the time.

I wish Vessel would make some sets that included a whole range of sizes for certain bit types. Like an all Cross set, all Slotted set, all Torx. Id really like some in maybe 75mm or 100mm, but the only kinds of sets they seem to have are the Hex... I ended up getting the Ball Impact set, as it had pretty much all the bits I would ever need, although I wish they were longer

@interceptor7905

Жыл бұрын

Look up PB Swiss Tools

Tried my Vessel bits, both 9mm & 13mm in my Wera Rapidapters. The detents lock on both sizes.

As always, lovely review. Thank you. Withal, could you please review ANEX stubby ratcheting screwdriver that I've seen a glimpse of somewhere in your videos? I appreciate

can always take an angle grinder to the base end of the bits if you want the japanese bit to lock fit into your usa/european hex chucks

you should look into the vessel sockets metric bits

Milwaukee surge was not ready yet for such perfection of the bits😅

bzeug, hey man that's exactly what I've been telling to my fellow contractors who purchased Japanese domestic tools especially 1/4" Impact Driver Category! I was telling them that there's a difference though when it comes to the receiver chuck and they don't wanna believe me they said there something wrong with the tool! 🤣 But they don't understand! Here in North America both US and Canada and perhaps South America as well are using a typical 9mm Anvil Chuck Reciever, where as in Japan they use 13mm exclusively for Japanese Market only. And I purchased 5 Japanese made impact tools. Makita TD171 (in US/Canada- XDT16) I bought 1 in color white, then after a year I purchased TD-172 (that's supposed to be the new XDT-19 for North America and DTD-172 for Australia and UK) I bought 2 of them color Black and Purple and these 3 are in the 18V line, then I purchased the new Makita TD-002G XGT40V line I purchased 2 of them color Olive and Yellow. Then I purchased a box of bits too! I got vessel brand, Sun Flag brand, Anex and SK11 brand. They're all Japanese and 100% made in Japan with Japanese Steel and Materials. From Philips #2,#3 and #1, to Reduced Philips head or they call it Slim Torsion bits, then I got Torx from T10 to T40, then Socket Adapters all set, Drill bits too! From 3mm to 6mm, then Hex Ball Allen bit set, Square Drive #2 and #3 bits and all kinds of stuffs! No regrets! I bought a big box and they shipped all of it here in the USA. Because I'm not just collecting them but also I'm using them in my Jobsite as well! That's why I bought 5 Japanese made impact drivers, Im only using 2 then the other 3 is only for Display. And that's for Makita. Believe it or not I also own a Ryobi-Kyocera Brushless Impact Driver made in Japan and that is a top notch Ryobi that is so different from the Ryobi that are sold at the home Depot. Then the rest of my tools are bought here in the US, mostly DeWalt made in USA and Old Craftsman. But for the Quality of the Japanese tools are really exceptional in my opinion.

I was introduced to Vessel many years ago when in Germany. Every pro there used them, which shocked me. The Vessel USA brand is not bad, but more like WERA. It doesn't compare to the Vessel JP brand.

I wanna be where the party is : HERE!😂

Great Review! It was exactly what I was looking for. I also use some of the GOSAI bits and they wave very good fit on Phillips, only problem is that they rust a little bit. Thanks!

My Hilti impact driver locks into both 13 and 9.5mm detent bits.

@seano51

Жыл бұрын

Model #?

@trimaranlorenzo

Жыл бұрын

@@seano51 SID 4-A22

They actually have a indentation dot marking them to identify them. that's were alot get mixed up with Ponzi drive's & jis. that's why you always see crankcase screw's chewed up on most Japanese bikes

You are a mster. Thanks for this documentary video 👍

Is there an adapter that has an E6 (6.5mm notch) on the hex end that you can stick into, let's say an American bit holder or battery powered drill for the American market, that has a hex socket on the other end that will hold a JIS (13mm notch) screwdriver bit on the other end? I hope that I explained that correctly....

Have you used any of the Anex bits?

If you go to Japan, you can find these at Japanese Home Depot.

Mark 10 mm on the anvil cut it and chamfer the end I had this problem but was resolved

So is there a Japanese 13mm to US size bit adapter?

Still no socket adapter huh?

Drinking a beer called "Kaizen" as I watch this, haha..

yes, more on vessel, i need to grab some of there bits, as i work printers and computers, i got the wera laser tip and it is way better than "standart" ph2

@rlgonzalez04

Жыл бұрын

Wera makes a "J" philips bit. It is thinner at the end than a standard 25mm bit. I can't measure the angle sizes to see if that's different but again, Wera makes a "J" philips cross bit

@remixedMind

Жыл бұрын

@@rlgonzalez04 yes i know, but its only 25mm as you said, i did order vessel 100 mm bits

@rlgonzalez04

Жыл бұрын

@@remixedMind No sir, they also have 50mm and 89m

Could you do a comparison between Anex and Vessel bits? It seems the Torx bits of Anex fit better then the Vessel ones

Would love to see a comparison between the makita and a jdm Panasonic

Have you looked into xtorque bits? From Australia good looking torsion zone

Mind is blown. 😅

Could you make a video telling us your favorite tools? Please don't include limited edition of Japan only tools. So every category!

🤔 JDM tools to work on my JDM cars….not sure which will hate me more my wallet or my wife. Already have a few Vessel screwdrivers and really do love them I want to get more.

South Korea also uses the Japanese deep anvil size. Every DeWalt, Milwaukee and Makita sold here has the Japanese deep anvil. Expats beware

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Thank you.

Project farm did a side by side comparison of the japanese makita and the Chinese makita....the japanese makita was way better than the Chinese one. It hits harder and faster than the Chinese makita we get here.

What are those yellow tips, right in the middle, in the bottom row, it says 18V in the right upper corner?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

Those are terminal bits. They are a hybrid of plus and minus. Links are in the description.

@commenter5469

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug Thanks. I do automation, mostly European made equipment, and those Plus-Minus are everywhere, especially in pozidrive + -. Was wondering if Japanese combine their cross with the slotted also.

Are these the preferred tools used on gundam maintenance?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

Definitely!

A question for the JDM Makita. Do you have to use an adapter for the plug to US 110 volt?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

no worries. no cord. no charger. no battery. Tool only.

@mph3500

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug thanks for your quick response! Cool!

@twinbee4243

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Holdread, NO! Japan and The USA are both 110 to 120V and other countries are 220 to 240V. I own and using a CORDED! corded Makita Brush Impact Driver it's imported from Japan also made in Japan and it is 110V but I've been using it at home. They're safe. The only thing that you should not use a 110 to 120V Powertools is IF you live in Russia or in the Southeast Asia they're using 220 to 240V there and if you plug in a 120V appliances or Powertools it will explode and fry out, unless IF you have a Voltage Converter/Regulator that will Alter your 120V Appliances or Powertools to 240V so you can use it Safely and that's the way to go. That's why always read the Owner's Manual IF the writing is in different language then find a way to translate it. Owner's Manual is very very important.

Does anybody know if 3/8 socket adapters are made for the 13mm Japanese anvil? I can't find one.

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

Is this what you had in mind? amzn.to/3LeW9gB

@FunkyFresh48

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug That's it! Thank you! 🙂

Would a Japanese 13mm receiver chuck fit into a US market Makita impact driver?

@markm0000

Жыл бұрын

Only one way to find out.

Anywhere I can find the 9.5/13mm combination anvil bits? Tried Amazon Japan and google searches…

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

I'll add an Amazon Japan affiliate link for the Anex brand bits that I own. Here is the Amazon Japan affiliate link, amzn.to/3MsPBJW

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

I also found a VESSEL brand example and put that link in the video description.

@briandoroshuk6837

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug Thanks!

Hi Bzeug how do I get my hands on that physical catalog? I am a huge fan and buyer of Vessel tools. Please share.

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

I sent an email to Vessel and asked for those catalogs.

The wera rapid adapter accepts 13mm detent

Do you have parts number for that pbswiss torq?

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

I buy those from in the USA here: pbtools.us/pb-e6l-400-long-1-4-power-bits-for-torx-screws_c215.htm

I prefer Anex, some Vessel stuff is made in China (which I don't love).

Makes me wonder if they have anvil converter jap2usa?

This 13mm but might just fit the festool centrotec system 🤔 I’ve been trying to find something that works for ages….

@axelundall6298

Жыл бұрын

It does fit!

@wingsdesire1

Жыл бұрын

@@axelundall6298 No way! This is the best news I’ve heard thank you Axel! Does it require any modification? I’ve noticed centrotec tends to be thinner than the normal 1/4” hex This means a lot me really appreciate it

@rlgonzalez04

Жыл бұрын

The current Centrotec is a Wera Rapidapter, they lock a JDM bit. The previous Centrotec was a Wiha, a Wiha Centrofix, that also hold but unavailable unless used on ebay

@wingsdesire1

Жыл бұрын

@@rlgonzalez04 I can confirm wera rapidaptor is not compatible with centrotec as the hex shank is slightly too large. I’m not sure if we are on the same page but I’m after the bit driver approximately 75-100mm long in centrotec as I work in cabinets and need the narrow blade and the longer reach. I do appreciate your input though thank you 😊

@rlgonzalez04

Жыл бұрын

@@wingsdesire1 Yeah sorry I read the question wrong. I see now you were talking about the proprietary Centrotec not the "Centrotec" made by Wiha and now Wera

You dont like the Philips. Well I dont.. But From time to time you have to remouve or replaice em. Am I right.

Hey, thanks for the video /info for tools OTHER than (shit ) made in China. I am SOOO sick of being railroaded into having to buy cheap worthless piece of complete and total junk tolls, AND even everything else that just fails, many times on the very first use! EVERY SINGLE FREAKING THING that is made in China is junk! I have needed, just a bit for example, for a job (construction trades) and some broke on the first use, simply trying to drive a screw. AND of course there was a hole predrilled. Also some (Vix-Bits) they are not the ACTUAL real Vix -Bit brand but some p.o.s. China knockoff , which is the only option at our wonderful hardware stores by the way. It is so very frustrating to say the least. I could go on and on. Hey, also shoes. Not related to this video except for the fact of where they are made too. Falls apart in under 6 months. And that is ONLY wearing them at work. So, the rant needs to end my friend. I am sure you relate. Thanks again for the video! Good day!

Looks like just a collector's waffle, how they stand against real work and vs traditional bits t.i wera, whia, dewalt etc.

so many words so little Information

JIS is meaningless anymore and not needed.

Your delivery tone suggests a condescending demeanor as a parent would speak to a child. I’m all for infinite detail on all things tech however, I feel that your spoken style takes it a bit too far.

BZEUG has helped me so much, truthfully. I have adopted most of his taste in JDM products. Some videos Ive watched several times. Vessel should really gift you all the products you need for the detailed marketing you've done for them and others.

Anex Torx Bits are like those of Vessel? Do you have that annoying movement? On the other hand, in Europe some Makita power tools come with an adapter to use 9mm bits (with adapter) or Japanese 14mm bits (without). m.media-amazon.com/images/I/415MQWI+R0L._AC_.jpg

@bzeug

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I didn't know that. Thank you.

@aaltamiranor

Жыл бұрын

@@bzeug It is a spacer that comes for example with the Makita TD022DS that is sold in Europe (Made in China). Unfortunately I don't know the part number.