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@jonathanbair523

2 жыл бұрын

You may want to look up the time Japan landed forces in America up in Alaska.... Also the mini subs that went into Pearl Harbor to take part in the attack... I got to hear about the mini subs from a vet who was on the USS Ward and she fired and sank one of the IJN mini subs that was sent in for the attack...

It’s crazy to think that the atomic bomb made it to where less lives were lost

@LunaticTheCat

2 жыл бұрын

And set Japan up for a much brighter future as the alternative of being occupied by the Soviets would have been catastrophic for the future of Japan.

@Tennischamp450

Жыл бұрын

@@LunaticTheCat the Japanese hated communism more than any other people on earth, I can’t imagine the Soviets involvement going well. Maybe could have led to WW3.

My term paper for my WW2 history class was actually about how the US government was deciding between Operation Downfall and the A-bombs. Easily the hardest paper I ever wrote and researched on. What you saw was a very simplified version of Downfall, because there was also soviets planning in to invade japan as well, starting in Hokkaido. The end result with Downfall is that Japan would have turned into its own Korean War, and Japan would have most likely ended up with the same results, permanently split into 2 countries

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

very interesting

@gregs4748

Жыл бұрын

A Soviet invasion gets floated around a lot in alternate history, but it completely ignores that the Soviets lacked basically any sealift capability. How would their massive armies actually land on Japanese soil? They were totally reliant on the USA for transport.

@costakeith9048

Жыл бұрын

@@gregs4748 Initially there were plans plans for the US Navy to transport the Red Army to Japan for the invasion. But, after Germany surrendered and it became more and more apparent that the Soviets did not want to leave the lands they had captured, the US started to worry about this plan; this was certainly part of the calculation that led to the US dropping the bombs. It's hard telling whether, in the end, they would have included the Soviet Union in Operation Downfall or not. But you're right, the Soviets had no sealift capability and would have been entirely dependent on the western allies (as they were with the invasion of the Kuril Islands).

@andrewpatton5114

Жыл бұрын

That or Japan simply ceasing to be a country because of the extreme casualties. The fighting would have been fiercer than Iwo Jima and Okinawa, but beyond that, Japan was experiencing severe famine in the summer of 1945, such that they were resorting to eating rats. Had the war continued into the winter, they would have been resorting to cannibalism.

My father served in the pacific, he said to me I wouldn't be here if there was an invasion as allied casualties were estimated at a million. Accurate to say fewer lives were lost with the atomic bombs, but in the most horrific way possible.

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

right

@mattzukowski1207

2 жыл бұрын

@@Choppylovechoppy It's hard to say on that. After the first atomic bomb it was thought we only had 1 and keep fighting. After the second, well, it was thought Japan could move underground. It gets a bit confusing after the firebombing of Tokyo and Russia invading. There was a bit of a split between what I call Operation Ostrich (move underground) and surrender. I believe some in the military tried to intercept the emperor's recording but failed. It's hard to say if it was actions of the US that caused the end or Russia thought to be friendly turning around and invading. One of my favorite tropes is a Japanese WWII veteran left stranded for 30 years returning home to 1970s Japan and asking, "Are you sure we lost the war?".

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you also had a Blockade as an option if you were alright if a million Japanese starved to death.

@andrewpatton5114

Жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 You're dreaming if you think it would have been only a million Japanese starving in a blockade.

@MrZenGuitarist

Жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 Yeah! As someone mentioned there was already famine in at least parts of Japan even before the invasion..or, at least - people had begun to starve already. Since they were reliant on food from China and their other colonies, which obviously couldn't come through the allies. So, if the Allies were going to go for the blockade 'option' - which was the most likely one, since they didn't want to either have a million or so marines dead, OR kill children - well, then countless millions of people would have starved to death, and cannibalism would have raged through the entire island(s?). It would most likely have been an even greater catastrophe than the 2 A-bombs. Even after Japan had surrendered - and the Allies supplied as much food they could...countless people still starved, or froze to death - since many homes, especially in the cities and suburbs were destroyed. As cruel as it was, and the pressure every side was under - they went for the A-bombs: which was probably and actually the least inhumane way of ending this never-ending war. I realize it is hard to look at it that way - but those were truly brutal times.... Oh, we are lucky to live now - and not back then. (At least if the mad-man Putin doesn't go totally insane and actually do nuke Ukraine, and perhaps other places as well..? Who knows with that MoFo?)

Just ran across your video. As an American now in my 50's, I served as a young young man in the US Navy, so I studied in depth what is known as the "Pacific Theater" of WW2, since an overwhelming amount of it was fought at sea and the adversary (Japan), was an island nation. I did marry a half Japanese woman, her father was a US sailor stationed in Japan in the late 50's to early 79's, he married a Japanese woman, she was one of the kindest souls I ever knew. There are many lessons from the war in the Pacific. Not the least of which is that Japan was aspiring to be a hemispheric power, no different than European nations, and America. Indeed, America's own history is full of both good, and bad actors and actions, so Japan was experiencing those growing pains in the 1900's as European countries and America experienced them in prior centuries/century. I cannot stress these points enough, because even both my grandfather's, who fought in WW2, fully understood that both the German and Japanese would be critical Allies post WW2 against Communism, which was the post war threat of the time. When you had leaders such as Soviet Stalin and China's Mao killing an estimated 100 million people my grandfather's realized WW2 number of dead could be dwarfed. They taught their children and, in time, their grandchildren (me) to study Japan, study Germany and try to connect with the people. History is written by the Victor's so the saying goes, only, in the case of WW2, while very heavy hearted at the death and pain suffered, I am grateful the US calls Japan a friend, because Japanese fighting spirit is definitely like looking in a mirror. It just took a major catastrophic event to get us standing side by side, for the betterment of humanity. Thanks for the reaction. Enjoyed.

Honestly, most of the axis powers in WW2 feel like actual supervillains sometimes

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you think we got our inspiration from from?

@steveisthecommissar4013

2 жыл бұрын

That’s mainly because the basically were

@jiraffe9600

2 жыл бұрын

That’s probably part of the reason ww2 is such a popular war. Unlike most wars in history where it’s hard to find good guys and bad guys, this war is different. Don’t get me wrong the Allies did terrible things, but nothing compared to the Axis.

@drewwar9344

Жыл бұрын

​@@jiraffe9600 what things?

@jiraffe9600

Жыл бұрын

@@drewwar9344 Mostly bombings, like the nukes, Dresden, and the firebombings of Japan. There is also stuff like the massacres of surrendered soldiers and of POWs.

A japanese person told me in 1945 when he was 10 he was drafted into the army around this time. He was happy to serve and knew he would have to fight america or russia. he expected to be given a uniform and a gun, but was given a sharp stick and 2 anti tank mines. he was told to stab american soldiers with the stick or lie under american tanks with the mines and blow himself up. He was afraid so he ran into the woods, threw the mines into a river and hid in the woods so the soldiers wouldnt shoot him for deserting the army. He lived eating bugs and frogs for a few weeks before an old woman found him and told him the war was over. He eventually moved to america. 11:05 Also my great uncle (grandmothers brother) was killed in this exact kamikaze impact.

@NathanThomas-ic5tq

3 ай бұрын

He was also ordered by his evil Japanese empire to commit suicide by sword or as a kamikaze if his mission failed. Japanese people should have fought against their evil emperor and the evil empire. Instead, Japan morality disappeared, and millions of civilians died. Did you know that in World War 2, the Japanese empire and Nazis murdered 45 million civilians and killed 16 million soldiers?

My Uncle was part of the trained invasion group. Dont get my wrong the 2 Nuclear Bombs dropped were obviously horrible and devastating however, this would have been so so much worse.

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@goodiegoodygumdrops

Жыл бұрын

Also America won Japan that a second attack was coming if they didn't surrender but Japan didn't listen to me I would just straight up somewhere like oh I wouldn't like that

@goodiegoodygumdrops

Жыл бұрын

Oops

Personally, I am not ashamed of the US using the atomic bombs. We were at war. This was at a time when wars were intended to be won, not intended to be continuous. I have no animosity against modern Japan, but the Japan of the 1940s was very different.

The purple heart, medals awarded to US military personnel who suffer injuries due to war-related injuries, are still awarded medals created back in expectation of operation downfall.

Tim, I encourage you to one come to America again and specifically my State of Texas! If I can at the time then I would love to show you around. Though I may not be able to so try and get a guide or friend with you because it may likely be an experience you’ll never forget. I wouldn’t know for sure but either way, god bless you and I hope things go according to your vision for life.

@patrickaggie2012

2 жыл бұрын

God bless Texas, and gig'em!

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

I actually want to spend a few years in Texas but current travel restrictions is not allowing me in so just need to wait 😢

@patrickaggie2012

2 жыл бұрын

@@Choppylovechoppy excellent to hear! I'll be moving to japan hopefully in March of next year, I'd be more than happy to teach you everything you need to know about Texas. Texas is a very big state, and where you live will determine your experience

@kevo9352

2 жыл бұрын

@@Choppylovechoppy come to Texas! I’ll be a host

@cctproductions6976

2 жыл бұрын

texas

well my grandfather was drafted by Japan from korea. And thanks to those bombs . it freed us

We love you, Tim!

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

you too !

It's interesting the way he speaks. He talks British but with a slight Japanese accent.

One thing that wasn't mentioned is that Japan would've more than likely used chemical weapons like Mustard gas. In the infamous unit 731 there were plans to deploy diseases like cholera as well as the infamous beubonic plague which would've definitely been used.

Love to Japan from the USA!

Glad all the horrible war years are behind us. We love Japan and her people. Jesus is still the king of kings!✝️

What this doesn't mention is that the U.S. was planning to fight Russia if Russia invaded Japan as well. The US had no intention of allowing the Soviet union even partial control of Japan. If that happened then even if Japan surrendered, the country would have continued to be torn up as the US fought to remove Russia from the island.

A good word that means understanding/comprehend is “fathom” which is like a more literal word for understanding the depth of a situation- ps I appreciate you making these videos

Dude, honest show. :) Kinda' revealing, but a fun watch. GR8 job.

It's OK to be sad about it, even when Japan was the aggressor. It's still your home country. Be proud.

You showed up in my feed and I have been watching video after video, it is enjoyable. I was born in Tennessee but moved to Japan at age 3 in 1975 until I was 12. Father was in the Navy (me too later on) and so I grew up on 2 military bases and visited or went to school on others. Yokohama, Yokosuka, Kamiseya, Atsugi, Sagamihara, and Zama. It by far was my best times in life, the Japanese people and culture are spectacular my Father married my Stepmother in 1980 (Mayumi) so I also have the experience of Japanese Family and traditions. I have not been back since the early 80s and miss it. Only 1 bad experience was visiting Hiroshima at age 10, the museum and sites gave me nightmares. If you ever get a chance to go there, its beautiful now but its a visual reminder of the horror of technology mixed into war. Anyway just wanted to share and say hi, if you visit, stay away from the north by canada in the winter, its terrible with the unbelievable cold lol✌️

That is also not counting the horrible casualties inflicted on civilian populations when it comes to asymmetrical warfare.

Honestly the Pacific theatre of WW2 is extremely fascinating, and although I can understand that it comes with far more than a few uncomfortable truths for a modern Japanese reader/viewer, it gives an excellent insight into the human condition. For example, the Japanese brutality to both civilians of conquered lands and to captured enemy combatants. Part of this was due to the disciplinary structure of the Japanese military. To overly simplify a complex monster of factors, it’s the direct result of a culture of racial superiority and a toxic “shit rolls downhill” policy. The people at the top were absolutely toxic human beings. And so they’d abuse the people under them. Then those guys would abuse the people below them. And this keeps going until you get a random Japanese grunt, who in any other circumstance would probably be a really pleasant person, torturing an American POW because for shits and giggles. And then there’s those moments where a person’s humanity truly shines through. Like when a Japanese officer who studied abroad in the USA recognized an American soldier he had captured. The American was a star football player from the school he had attended, Notre Dame. The Japanese officer chewed out one of his soldiers for beating the American and taking his class ring. He then gave the ring back to the American and told him to hide it from anyone else. If you have the stomach for it, Mark Felton’s video exploring the root causes of the Japanese brutality is an excellent watch. It shows just to the kind of depths normal people who smile, laugh, and love can go to when they are pushed just in the right way.

@tsdobbi

Жыл бұрын

" it comes with far more than a few uncomfortable truths for a modern Japanese reader/viewer," The US has it's own sour history in the Pacific where the details never see the light of day in school curriculum. Therefore I am not going to crap on the Japanese not wanting to face their countries behavior in WW2. If you want to know what I am talking about, do a deep dive on the Spanish-American war and the subsequent Filipino rebellion against American rule. What the American military did in the Philippines would have garnered the admiration of the worst WW2 Japanese war criminals.

Thank you for your videos. God bless you. So happy the invasion of Japan never happened. Amen

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the Atomic bomb was arguably not the worst option. They could have done a Blockade and potential Starved Millions of Japanese. I'm thankful now and unnerved that the A bomb WASN'T the worst option.

Hitler felt, if he lost, all Germans should die with him. The Japanese military was similarly insane. Fortunately neither got what they wanted, given loss, at the hands of the Allies. Of course given their own preference, the Soviet Union would have been much rougher with Germany if they had occupied all of it, same with however much they would occupy of Japan. The nukes plus the Soviet declaration of war against Japan, made the Emperor and civilians see sense, and a military coup against the Emperor, to stop the surrender, failed on the grounds of the imperial Palace, due to a random five minute blackout, or Japan would have fought to the last civilian ;-(

If u ever come to America again, u should visit my state Virginia. It has ALOT of history behind it that I think u might enjoy ^^

That's insane, I was never taught about this in the US either. What you said about your grandfather just barely being young enough to avoid the war also hits close to home, because, while not talking about WW2, my family as immigrants were in a very similar situation with the Soviet Union. Also, is there any way we can contact you about inquiries? There's no email in your KZread About Me or anything.

@GoGoPooerRangers

2 жыл бұрын

You were never taught what? The possible land invasion? They teach what actually happened, the atomic bombs.

@tsdobbi

Жыл бұрын

"I was never taught about this in the US either." It's not surprising, because it didn't happen, lol. There were LOTS of plans in WW2 on both sides of the war that never came to fruition. That applies to history in general. Primary School isn't in the business of waxing poetic about woulda, coulda, shouldas when it comes to history, they teach what actually happened, because there isn't enough time to go into the what ifs of history. When you go to secondary school and pursue history academically, that is when it makes sense to engage in the nuance.

Q-shoe. Edit: also imagine what Japan would be like after that version of the war. Probably would be no such thing as anime. I very much prefer the way things went, I wish it had gone better, but it definitely could've gone worse.

😂 omg your reactions are so funny

If the Allies had been forced to invade the mainland of Japan, as they did on Okinawa, the Japanese Empire would have ceased to exist and millions would have died....no one would have come to their aid

Kamikaze is a Japanese loan word in English, just like tsunami or typhoon (taifuu). The pronunciation has been anglicized and sounds more like “kama kazi”.

I highly recommend you watch videos on napoleon

damn homie looks like hes gonna do a mukdang

And it’s not a big deal I don’t even think your ancestors are bad people just like I don’t think the soldiers fighting under the communist banner were necessarily bad people and even the nazis fighting under the third reich, we’re all humans and war is never black and white, i’m probably the most patriotic American you can find but I’m a realist to and we invaded Vietnam we were the bad guys American soldiers murdered thousands of Vietnamese family’s and displaced even more from their homes all under a false flag operation called operation northwoods, It was declassified 2004 that in 1964 the United States did a false flag operation to get us in to the Vietnam war and blame it on the Vietnamese, as from Japan we were taught that the Emperor of Japan didn’t necessarily want to do everything that Japan did in World War II but the generals were more in control than the emperor was(from what I’ve learned)and they were the ones That was waging war in the South Pacific not the emperor, I think most soldiers are good men no matter what banner you fight under, war never changes, and I’ve also heard stories of Japanese people that were never involved in World War II crying about what their ancestors did and to me that sounds messed up the people try to make Japanese people feel bad for what their ancestors did it’s like people here in America trying to make me feel bad for what my ancestors did in the 1800s(even though my family came to America in 1940s during maos communist purge in China

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

you're right

I also would probably never have existed if the invasion gad taken place. My father was a landing craft pilot for the November 1, 1945 invasion. If the invasion had taken place he would have been transporting troops and supplies from the ships to the shore until he was wounded or killed in action. The expectation they told him n training was 90% of landing craft pilots were expected to be wounded or killed the first three days of the Kyushu invasion.

Ya. Your reaction at the end as a German American (similar to you as a Japanese British). Is that Japan was almost lucky. As ducked up as it is to lose less than 1 million civilians. The nuclear bombs prevented millions and millions and millions of people from dying and from an actual takeover puppet state scenario by the Soviets. Germany was not so lucky. They lost millions of civilians and were invaded by the Soviets until the 1990‘s. The nuclear bombs ironically saved japan from their crazy imperial family willing to have everyone die in their country just to avoid a war crime tribunal. For the damage & death it delt japan received the least destruction of any country in ww2 besides England despite killing more than nazi Germany. I Hope more Japanese learn like you do. It’s not to feel guilty it should be the Japanese government that’s guilty for giving excuses for not teaching it. It is modern history and it made japan the country it is now despite the crazy conservative parties swearing it was the samurai and only the samurai/Meiji era. Germany teaches its modern history extensively so that it never happens again and so they may see forgiveness from their neighbors. Japan is yet to do so besides hush Money & watering down everything there is to do with their dark past. Like you said this was like 80 years ok. It’s so modern people forget about it. I’ve been to both Germany and japan. Great countries but i never see memorials for those killed by japan in Tokyo. I’ve seen dozens in Germany. Hopefully our generation will be the one to teach everyone about everything so that it NEVER happens again:)

Don't feel bad about what your country did, man. Your country's sins are not your own. Some of my relatives were German SS soldiers, during WW2. I don't feel bad about that because their sins are not mine. All the love from the US. 🤙

@andrewpatton5114

Жыл бұрын

The only thing this generation of Japanese needs to do is make sure they never do what their grandparents and great-grandparents did. It may become necessary to amend the Constitutional provision renouncing offensive warfare, but they must never seek conquest or become so obsessed with honor that they would rather the nation perish than admit defeat.

勝てば官軍負ければ賊軍

Hey in all fair we dropped leaflets on hiroshima and nagasaki days ahead instructing all innocent life to leave they were going to razed to ash and the japanese government pulled a stalin and wouldnt let the civilians leave thus all the casualtys

Lot of wild stuff the Japanese army did during WWII. Like the suic1d e cliffs of Saipan, where hundreds of Japanese civilians jumped to their deaths to avoid the enclosing marines. The propaganda about the US military and the marines in particular had been extremely effective. They were told that in order to even become a US marine, you had to kill a family member as initiation, and that the most violent and sadistic people from prisons and insane asylums were recruited to be marines. They were told that if the americans took the island, they would torture and kill everyone and do unspeakable things to the women, and eat and kill the babies. So death before dishonor was encouraged, with ending ones self being advertised as the better alternative. Marines on saipan watched through binoculars as hundreds of civlians walked down onto the beaches, into the ocean, drowning themselves. Others jumped from the cliffs, theres video footage of the event on KZread. Some fathers threw the children off the cliffs first, then pushed their wives before jumping themselves. The propaganda was so effective that they genuinely believed they were saving themselves and their families from horrible suffering ):

7:44 9:51 sounds the fking same to me

Japan attacked America America kicked Japan's ass no offense end of story.

@yuumetal2363

Жыл бұрын

Japan attacked military base in Hawaii. U.S mmassa ccrredd nearly 1 million of Japanese civilians. U.S (Flying Tigers) disguised as Chinese air force and attacked Japan "suddenly and sneakily" and also U.S submarine attacked Japanese submarines those attacks are both before the attack of Pearl Harbor. also Japan did not want to fight agaisntg U.S and had been negotiating with peaceful proposals, and PDA refused all the proposals and provoked Japan. Japan had no choice but fight to protect Japan.

@abrahammanders8851

Жыл бұрын

@@yuumetal2363 America gave you a prime minister a president to represent your country not a overpowered emperor my grandpa fought in World War II you're welcome you got a prime minister now you have voting rights now.

React to Potential History's video called Japans last Hail Mary

i see why you didnt really take off

I mean the japanese high command was worried about an uprising from the population. By that point society was beginning to break down and communism was looking appealing especially when the prospect of a soviet invasion seemed real. Then you have America planning to drop at least half a dozen more atomic bombs on japan with a third and fourth bomb ready the same month the other two dropped. August 17-19 would have been the date of the third atomic bomb though Tokyo wouldn't have been targeted.

Thank you for trying to spread the truth of history 💜

Never conquered till the Americans came to return the sucker punch

please react GEOGRAPHY NOW INDONESIA.

Timothy: you don't get daughter much about the specifics because it's too mature. 6th grade teacher: "They dragged him by his feet, non-lethally hanged him, chopped off and burned his di** in front of him, disimbouled him, poured hot oil in his wounds, and killed him by tearing his limbs off with horses. Class:this is normal😐

Sank you...

You should watch some skits for a good hardy har

I love history! And for anyone who is reading this know Jesus loves you all, God bless you guys!

@stormiedavis9665

2 жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien I know Jesus is real and I know he loves all of us, I know he died for our sins and rose again, Jesus is our Lord and Saviour, and know he loves you too! I'll be praying for you, I hope you have a blessed day

for the first 3 mins and 30 seconds i didn't know what the fuck you where talking about

Do you teach Japanese?

Tim stop interrupting

Thank God the invasion never happened..

Small note, the word "kamikaze" has been anglicized. It's nice to hear the proper Japanese pronunciation, but it has been adapted as a word in English.

Key You Shoe Desu ne

@Choppylovechoppy

2 жыл бұрын

lol so dane

Also not in this video, but a pronunciation I always find annoying is when foreigners try to say Yokosuka and say the normal SU instead of the su found in desu

You are so cute OMG haha

What the video doesn't tell, US would likely drop more nukes on Japan. 3rd one was already planned and maybe they would add more. Millions of Soviet troops would likely invade from the north. Soviets would not gain much due to lack of ships, but Japan would end up split between Soviets and the Allies, which is a terrible fate when you look at what happened to Germany. Even without nukes, US firebombing was very devastating. I think, depending on the level of fanaticism of the Japanese, US would likely burn entire mountains and forests to a crisp. Some people say the US shouldn't have used nukes. Some say that Soviet invasion is the reason why Japanese surrendered to the US sooner. It's hard not to feel relieved, knowing just how horrible things could've turned out!

@bishop51807

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, best case scenario Japan would eventually be unified like Germany at the end of the Cold War. Worst case scenario they would be split like the koreas today.

As we approached the mainland of Japan, the resistance of the Japanese army became fierce, and the death and injury rate of U.S. military ground troops in the Pacific theater was as high as 3.5 times that in the European theater, and 39% of the input troops in the Battle of Okinawa. Great damage of death and injury. The United States indiscriminately killed by an atomic bomb that violates international law Whether the atomic bomb is dropped or the Soviet Union participates in the war, the military will fight thoroughly if "protection of the national polity" is not clear. Emperor Showa and the Prime Minister hope and decide to accept the Potsdam Declaration. After dropping the atomic bomb, the United States did not finally participate in the Soviet Union, but in the mainland decisive battle, 500,000 to 1 million people were killed and injured, and in the form of not wanting to fight 3 million Japanese troops in Asia, "Kokutai protection" Implicitly admitted. Japan is ready to accept the Potsdam Declaration → The United States has been informed that Japan will accept the Potsdam Declaration, but the clear imperial maintenance clause has been deleted from the declaration → The Emperor has dropped the American atomic bomb No matter what the position of the Prime Minister → The military has a thorough fight against the fact that the protection of the national polity is not clear → The Ministry of Foreign Affairs inquires to the United States The United States accepted the condition of Japan's "national protection" because it is too risky to surrender 500 to 1 million Japanese troops in China and Asia by force in the mainland decisive battle. .. Since Japan was able to protect the national polity and the constitutional monarchy, the communist revolution did not occur after the war and democracy and freedom were protected.

Ok, the announcer is pronuncing the word wrong, give it a rest.

Not-so-fun fact: By the time the US decided to drop the atomic bombs, the invasion was no longer an option on the table. While hypothetical plans had been drawn up, the invasion was considered too costly compared to simply continuing the regular bombing Japan and waiting for them to surrender. Japan was holding out on surrendering not because of ancient samurai traditions or whatever, but because they hoped the Soviet Union would intervene as a mediator to help them get a negotiated peace. The US was fully aware that Stalin had no intention of helping the Japanese negotiate a conditional surrender and was planning to invade Manchuria himself. The atomic bombs were dropped to try to force Japan to surrender BEFORE the Soviets entered the war, so that the Soviets wouldn't have a place at the table when it came to the post-war occupation, etc. The atomic bombs were useless because the Japanese government didn't care about civilians. Most of their other cities had already been bombed to hell, and there were elements of the government that wanted to continue the war even after the atomic bombings to secure even better terms. Everyone in the government agreed on one at least one thing: the imperial system should be allowed to continue. The US also wanted to maintain the emperor for political reasons, but didn't want to give Japan an unconditional surrender. They finally found a way to hint at the emperor's survival without saying it directly, by giving Japan a condition of their own, which was basically : "We will ALLOW you to surrender, but only if the emperor agrees to comply with our demands, obey our orders, etc etc." This implied that the emperor would be allowed to live, but also allowed the US government to save face by not accepting any conditions from Japan. The invasion narrative only began after the end of the war, to justify destroying two cities full of civilians. It would look pretty bad to kill civilians needlessly, so the people responsible began telling this narrative of saving millions of lives by sacrificing a few hundred thousand in the atomic bombings. But again, the choice was not between invasion or nukes. There were a number of other options available, including waiting for the Soviets to extinguish the Japanese hope for a mediated peace, telling the Japanese that the emperor would be allowed to live sooner than they did, or even leaking to the Japanese that the Soviets were going to declare war (which would compel Japan to surrender before the Soviets invaded, which would keep the Soviets away from the occupation and spoils of war).

I understand how annoyingly distracting it can be to hear Western narrators mispronounce Japanese names and locations, such as Key-yushu, Toh-key-yoh, Key-yotoh, etc. Yes, it's distracting, to the point where you want to tear your hair out. But you really have to try to just ignore it for the short term. Many Westerners, British and Americans both, are HORRIBLE with Japanese pronunciation, which puzzles me, because I'm American, and Japanese pronunciation is not that difficult for me, once you learn it properly. I've even been complimented on my Japanese pronunciation by Japanese people before. But anyway, in the future, please try to overlook these annoying mispronunciations of Japanese words by Western narrators and others if you can. You might miss some important information. (Just a suggestion, of course.)

@mattzukowski1207

2 жыл бұрын

We can't even pronounce nuclear correctly. New-kew-lar? What is that?

Both Japan and U.S learn at school that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor suddenly and sneakily, so the war started. it was absolutely lie. U.S (Flying Tigers) disguised as Chinese air force attacked Japan and also U.S submarine attacked Japanese submarine before the attack on Pearl Harbor. also Japan did not want war against U.S so Japan kept negotiating peacefully with numerous compromises, but FDR kept denying all the proposals from Japan and provoked Japan. Japan had no choice but fight against U.S and western countries that were colonizing entire world and enslaving all the colored race. Japan was the the last country of colored race that was not invaded by western country. also Japan attacked "military base" in Hawaii, civilians were not target unlike the Hollywood fiction movie Pearl Harbor (2001) has scene that Japanese fighter aircrafts are assaulting hospital and such. Unfortunately there were 57 causalities of U.S civilians in the military base, but Japan targeted military base not civilians. as a retaliation U.S ggenno ccidde nearly 1 million of Japanese civilians with mainly incendiary bombs and A bombs. still there are ffool llisshh Americans believe that A bombs saved more people by ending the war. it is a war crime. Japan lost war against U.S but Japan fought against Russia, China, UK, France and Netherlands and kicked them out of Asia and Asian countries could independent. Japanese soldiers who were in Indonesia were teaching how to use weapons and how to fight against western military and fighting together. Japan was secretary sending weapon to Indonesia to help independent. There are so many lies about Imperial Japan created by victorious countries to look Japan as bad. Unlike white nations ccollonnizzed and ennss llavved colored people like livestock, Japan modernized annexed countries and brought infrastructures and educations to build stronger Asia to protect from iinnvvassionn of white nation (Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere). U.S did not have to drop A bombs, because Japan did not have power anymore to fight back and was waiting for fair terms and going to stop fighting. it was Because Japan lost the war, so many Japanese were kkilleedd and rra pped by American soldiers even though Japan offered brothel for U.S solders to prevent rrappe. to protect U.S soldiers from sexual diseases, U.S military contributed 12 millions of condoms. as soon as U.S soldiers arrived in Japan. they lined up to the brothel. GHQ forced to teach American sided history at school. all Japanese believe Japan was evil and U.S were justice. there are so many videos bashing about Japan, but all the Japan sided videos get deleted on KZread.

Don't mess with the U.S

@WesMordine

2 жыл бұрын

70 years ago, though.

@Noslack412

2 жыл бұрын

@@WesMordine Still valid today.

@WesMordine

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noslack412 last war they won...

@mattzukowski1207

2 жыл бұрын

Yep... they will bomb your cities and rebuild your homes and install ovens you'll never use.

@sphjinx1448

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattzukowski1207 I mean, we could’ve invaded, and the casualties would’ve been in the millions, instead of the few hundred thousands, but you’re right. Unlike that guy, I’m not blindly patriotic. Though the US does still have the strongest military on Earth. That’s a fact. We have the best economy, and everything. There’s a reason that the US dollar is the worlds reserve currency.

As we approached the mainland of Japan, the resistance of the Japanese army became fierce, and the death and injury rate of U.S. military ground troops in the Pacific theater was as high as 3.5 times that in the European theater, and 39% of the input troops in the Battle of Okinawa. Great damage of death and injury. The United States indiscriminately killed by an atomic bomb that violates international law Whether the atomic bomb is dropped or the Soviet Union participates in the war, the military will fight thoroughly if "protection of the national polity" is not clear. Emperor Showa and the Prime Minister hope and decide to accept the Potsdam Declaration. After dropping the atomic bomb, the United States did not finally participate in the Soviet Union, but in the mainland decisive battle, 500,000 to 1 million people were killed and injured, and in the form of not wanting to fight 3 million Japanese troops in Asia, "Kokutai protection" Implicitly admitted. Japan is ready to accept the Potsdam Declaration → The United States has been informed that Japan will accept the Potsdam Declaration, but the clear imperial maintenance clause has been deleted from the declaration → The Emperor has dropped the American atomic bomb No matter what the position of the Prime Minister → The military has a thorough fight against the fact that the protection of the national polity is not clear → The Ministry of Foreign Affairs inquires to the United States The United States accepted the condition of Japan's "national protection" because it is too risky to surrender 500 to 1 million Japanese troops in China and Asia by force in the mainland decisive battle. .. Since Japan was able to protect the national polity and the constitutional monarchy, the communist revolution did not occur after the war and democracy and freedom were protected.