Hikikomori is not a medical problem. It is a social problem. Young men are told they must proceed through endless levels of education and employment. The young men who find they are incapable of completing this process are diagnosed as either with mental illness or lazy. They are neither.........

@Yayofangamer16

5 ай бұрын

Japan caused all this. I sadly don't feel pity for the recluses. If they don't want help, we can't force them. It's a big dilemma.

@jamesyue1348

5 ай бұрын

@@Yayofangamer16 are you kindly explain how japan caused all these ?

@krashme997

5 ай бұрын

I don't necessarily agree. It is both a medical and societal issue. People with mental illnesses, such as autism, asperger, depression, ADHD, etc... are not being diagnosed or treated because mental illnesses might be deemed taboo, so they're simply passed off as lazy or weird, and they might find it a lot easier to fit in, until they break and shut themselves in their own world. In other words, mental illnesses cause inadequacy, inadequacy pushes people to flee society, and the lack of proper diagnosis and care prevents them from ever returning to the outside world. Sure, we might argue that being a recluse for many years worsened their mental state, but I think there was something messing up with their brains from the beginning for most of these hikikomoris.

@claudiakara1720

5 ай бұрын

It can be mental health issues and trauma from school.

@claudiakara1720

5 ай бұрын

@@Yayofangamer16how sad. We don’t ask for sympathy we already know how messed up people are . Also being one I have been diagnosed with mental illness. Easy to talk without knowing

To tell you the truth, I want to work 10-15 years, gather money, retire early and live like that, completely alone. I just don't want to be around people anymore. I don't mind dying alone in an apartment. I would be dead, what would it matter to me anyways?

@Be1New2You3

3 ай бұрын

Dying is often a slow painful process. That's why people dying are on morpheme for months.

@tonymoretti2347

13 күн бұрын

Weird

from the american perspective its not hard to see why it happends here, go 50+k into debt for a degree, now go work living paycheck to paycheck for the next 40+ years until you die. Never own a house, never feel financially secure so if you get sick or hurt you will be ok. Not hard to see why some people just shut down. of course the parents dont want to throw them out because they end up homeless or worse but on the other hand what can you do?

@aisnow5788

6 ай бұрын

My friend is throwing out her son.

@minhlu3518

6 ай бұрын

Everything is free including home made meals? That's a good life. Poor places doesn't even have food to eat. End the fed. Buy crypto like hex went up 10,000x in the first run up.

@limitlesky

5 ай бұрын

Move to Sweden.

@regiluthfi

5 ай бұрын

US education system is a whack, you could graduate from ivy league school and still ended up doing minimum wage job.

@tabbypanda82

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@aisnow5788you friend is smart and probably at her wits end with her son

It’s not anything new, it’s the overwhelming stress and anxiety to perform at a high level in our ever evolving society. The breakdown of the family unit in my opinion is only one of many many reasons young people are finding it extremely difficult to function independently.

@Yayofangamer16

5 ай бұрын

Japan caused all this. I sadly don't feel pity for the recluses. If they don't want help, we can't force them. It's a big dilemma.

@kelc-1373

5 ай бұрын

@@Yayofangamer16Japan didn’t cause the global trend of Hikikomori. Late-stage capitalism did that.

@hiseggcelency

4 ай бұрын

Spot on, harder and harder to climb, the middle class is ever shrinking.@@kelc-1373

@hikikomori_eu

4 ай бұрын

@@kelc-1373​​⁠Exactament! Social media induced hypernormalisation will only create an unresolvable stumbling block in understanding some of the more nuanced & complex reasons centred around the Hikikomori phenomena. 20 C “pull yourself together” thinking belies a fear & frustration that will only widen the ever widening gulf of misunderstanding on this topic. Let’s be brave & face the challenge head-on, despite the terrible odds.

I m a hikikomori, I'm also schizoid, I'm very shy, used to be harassed at school, stopped socializing then became completely isolated from others, I've got myself a new hobby for painting, philosophy (spend a year listening to philosophy teachers on youtube, fascination for the existentialists), I also like hmm reading, japanese and russian literature I have no friends, though I'm fine I'm doing good I want to use the knowledge I've gained from listening to them to become a writer maybe, existentialism + painting + literature + classical music

@hafizsenadbrick

5 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong living alone and enjoying peace. It's the way of Buddha and Jesus.

@reshmisaha

5 ай бұрын

We go through a lot of pain before choosing complete social isolation, I'm on the same boat as you and a few of us in this world, it's not yet considered normal by most people but only the strongest people can survive isolation

@jaysmyth119

4 ай бұрын

hope u are doing ok, just be the best u that you can be ❤

@makoto3212

25 күн бұрын

yes.. is that so bad? if you order shopping and eat nutritious foods + regular exercise (like one of those stationary bikes) and take vitamins daily, i don't see the problem with being hikikomori? why do people always want to paint it as a bad thing if it is how that person wants to live their life

@user-wm1lx9sg2p

19 күн бұрын

Erik i am the same way but my harassment didn’t come through my peers rather family and authoritative nature of my school and the authority figures themselves. They have views and opinions of me which don’t match my character, as they interpret surface behaviour or mannerisms as my entirety when it’s a small fraction. but anyway, I did the same thing as you minus the painting. Japanese and Russian literature as well. i think we could be friends, says the schizoid 😵‍💫 I want to attend university to help with strucute to develop my writing skills and the like. Because of my similarities to you I can’t help but think we will feel empty from our pursuits as we do with life. Meaning is something to be created not found. I suppose this is the relationship to discipline. Have you read philosophical text on will power? I would like to.

About time to have a proper documentary on this phenomenon that isn't just based in Japan. I lived it in the West and knew it wasn't just a Japanese phenomenon, they were just ahead of the curve. Over the years I've watched as many documentaries as I could find on this subject, and this is the best constructed. Can't applaud it enough. Let us work towards better integrated societies with insight and compassion. Now is the time.

@no-xz1vw

3 ай бұрын

i think the reason is that the social pressures in school and work are way higher in japan. you can watch some documentaries on job applications in japan. it's cruel. i honestly couldn't do it. it just makes sense that there's way more hikikomori in japan, so they even made a word for that. of course all countries have people like that, but not in that extreme. also the fact japan has a word for overworking yourself to death "karoshi" and also places like the suicide forest (aokigahara) just adds to my point

@sluglife9785

3 ай бұрын

@@no-xz1vw Indeed. The pain and stress of other people's judgment seems to be a primary factor. So in a more judgmental and demanding culture it makes sense that it will be more widespread.

I think i’m going through something like this currently.. i’m a 15 year old girl and I stopped going to public school at my 1st year of highschool. 6:47 talks about bullying, harassment and a ill parent. all 3 happened to me at the same time. along with people also making fun of my mother who was almost under 100 lbs at the time due to toxic mold sickness. (they falsely associated my mom losing a lot of weight with her being on drugs). I got bullied bad for it. And it kinda scares me from going back. i’m not particularly scared of the outdoors. Nor do i have severe social anxiety (even though I do struggle occasionally) but I get where a lot of these people are coming from. Just thought sharing my story could make others feel better idk..

@nunomartins2209

5 ай бұрын

Hi u should seek professional help, try going to a new school etc Hope u get better

@raaaaaaarr

4 ай бұрын

I dropped out of 10 th grade because of severe social anxiety, exclusion and agorophobia. I'm 30 now and can barely work at a gas station. Living in poverty going to the food bank.. Homelessness threats and such. Best advice is to get a psychiatric diagnosis now!! That way you can st least apply for disability if you end up where I am. I can't even take the trash out it's ridiculous. And when my mom took me to get a diagnosis at 16, I lied, panicked, and ran out of the room into the city. Now it's like a ten year wait list for a diagnosis and I feel doomed. Ask parents for counseling and equally as important, diagnosis in case. My mom always told me, "mental illness is worst in your late 20s. You have to deal with these things now" and she was absolutely right.

@elita__

4 ай бұрын

@@raaaaaaarr thank you 💟 and good luck

@Rockerlady

4 ай бұрын

​@@raaaaaaarrI had anxiety due to bullying. Let me tell you, parents do not live forever. It is not their job to take care of a 30,40 year old. You will need to take care of them before you know it. Face your fears and go outside! Go for a walk on your block. Then go to the market. Go to a pay bill in person(such as a utility bill). Don't expect your parents and your phone to do everything for you. Even if you are scared, so what? Someone thinks you are ugly or weird, so what? Sometimes you have to force change. The sunlight and vitamin D will be good for you. It is time to work full time and support yourself. Take a chance.

@schmelzikasefaust8193

4 ай бұрын

how are you doing?

I AM A HIKIKOMORI BECAUSE MY SOCIETY IS SO JUDGEMENTAL 😒😒😒 THEY DON'T ACCEPT U FOR WHO U ARE 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ THEY WANT TO DICTATE US 🚶🏻‍♀️🚶🏻‍♀️🚶🏻‍♀️AND MY MIND IS AGAINST THE FLOW 🧠🧠 BUT I GO TO WORK ALMOST DAILY AND SHOP ONCE A YEAR ... I LIKE MY COMFORT ZONE 🍵🧘🏻‍♀️☁️

They’re parents are very understanding. I know my parents would yell at me like crazy

@Ellybis1730

3 ай бұрын

Mine would have kicked me out of the house. My parents never understood me. 🙁 I think I really don't have a family.

@user-gz4ve8mw9l

Ай бұрын

@@Ellybis1730 I'm sorry you never had a family, you deserved to have supportive loving parents. Know that despite this you aren't alone in the world.

@loup8109

Ай бұрын

Be thankful your parents yell at you that means they care. If they weren't strict you would end up a hikikimori

@w3w3w3

Ай бұрын

@@loup8109 did you watch the doc? that young teen turned hikki because one of his parents were strict lmao

I have a friend who went through this for 5 years with her son. She spent a small fortune on getting help. Eventually she decided she was enabling his behavior, paying for his phone, his internet, his food outside the door, washing his clothes and bedding, emptying his piss bottle. She stopped, after all, he was an adult and had the right to do what he wanted to. After a week of zero contact he came out. He now lives alone and appears yo be doing ok.

@Itried20takennames

5 ай бұрын

Good idea, necessity is the mother of invention. And if you have a comfy spot…easier to hide from life’s challenges and difficulties, but it’s a trap which only makes things worse with time.

@123dweaver

5 ай бұрын

It’s exactly like enabling a drug addict or alcoholic family member by giving them money.

@simshengvue4642

5 ай бұрын

My friend was turning into this and I told his mother to put the computer in the living room. He had a job by the next month

@mrmanio4935

5 ай бұрын

why brake them? what if he would go on the train tracks or a cliff?

@Gerryjournal

5 ай бұрын

@@mrmanio4935 His life

This is a societal issue worldwide.

For me is a huge symptom of depression. It’s so difficult to face things and do the normal daily things when we are depressed. And when we feel down we are more vulnerable and is not easy to defend ourselves in certain social situations. Gaming is not the problem, gaming is just a way of escaping. And the psychologist wasn’t really helpful. Asking someone in that state what are his aspirations and goals doesn’t work because it only makes them feel more empty. She didn’t use a good approach in my opinion. It’s not easy though for all involved 😔 mental health issues are the worst type of disease. You are still alive but kind of wishing to be dead it’s a nightmare.

@hulamei3117

5 ай бұрын

Truth

@ShelleyMagner

4 ай бұрын

Well said; thank you :)

@martynilsson4731

4 ай бұрын

This is obviously depression and social anxiety. No need for a new name.

@randomdude8892

3 ай бұрын

Although individuals experiencing this phenomenon might suffer from depression, it's not necessarily the lead cause. I'm currently experiencing this, and I have come across many individuals like me. One major reason is not being where you should be given your age according to the normal standards. Take, for example, someone in their 40s or even 50s. Individuals at this age should have a career, a partner, a family, and a house. What do you think happens when you are at this age and don't have any work experience or a college degree, a virgin, and still live with your parents. Believe it or not, there are many individuals who fit the description I gave you. That's also why so many of them try to go through the exit door. They can't handle the pain of being in such a position in life. There are also many young ones. I'm in my mid 20s and I'm already behind. Zero work experience and no college degree. I'm currently working on going back to college though. We can not say that "life isn't a competition" or "take it slow" or any such platitudes. If you reach your 40s and especially 50s and you fit the description above, then your life is over. No number of platitudes or positive talk will fix your life at that point. This then can lead to depression.

@AsterCalibur

14 күн бұрын

I think Society issues are a big problem. Sometimes it's too much and you feel like you need to limit it which I do. Sometimes these people tell you need to get out and do things it's difficult thing is that lot of things are a double edged sword scared that people know you and getting hurt again. Having things like Depression,ASD,Aspbergers,Bipolar and Anxiety you cannot deal with attachment.

“The medical world seeks to understand this illness” perhaps its not them that are sick, but society

@Nguyentodangkhoi

2 ай бұрын

Mặc dù căn bệnh này xuất hiện đã từ rất lâu nhưng các bác sĩ trên toàn thế giới bất ngờ vì căn bệnh này ở thời hiện đại đáng sợ đến mức nào nó chẳng khác gì đại dịch

@AB-tv2rm

Ай бұрын

Sick society.

@Nguyentodangkhoi

Ай бұрын

@@AB-tv2rm Yes

@randomchain8623

2 күн бұрын

💯% agree

I only just came by this condition called Hikikomori. I didnt realise that there's a name for what I have done since being a child. I relate a great deal to the feelings behind this isolation. The therapist with the long gey hair said that she had treated clients who would urinate in a receptacle rather than leave their room. Its a shutting down, to move hurts, appears insurmountable. You chip away at your world in order to make it smaller and there4 more manageable. It comes from a feeling of being lost, or from loss itself. The man at near the end says.. if he were to be around ppl for too long, he would go crazy.. he needs to rest afterwards to digest the earlier interactions with people. Again that was/is me today and way back when I was a child. I think this condition is triggered by some sort of trauma. Personally speaking I experienced this as a child and my escape was to invent these episodes of a story that I made up in my imagination, this allowed me to inhabit an imaginary alter life, and I would dip back into it when needed. Again this reminds me of the Hikikomori position. And to reduce your world and control it with whatever, usually the gaming, the internet is involved as it allows a person to communicate but from a distance/and sometime with a anon ID. Basically I feel this stems from a powerful drive to avoid pain. The affected have realised that pain is other people, and there4 they have withdrawn their participation.

@nightingalesastra5451

5 ай бұрын

You said it perfectly. For me, people are the source of all the pain in this world. It is bliss not having to deal with people.

@reshmisaha

5 ай бұрын

I've never fit in anywhere I've been my whole life and always seemed like a crazy person to most people. Then I tried to seem a little normal but it made me more unhappy trying to fit in. It's just not for me to be like most people. I also ended up living a lonely life for many years now, people are the only cause of pain truthfully, and I try to find peace in the sound of flowing waters and chirping and singing of birds and watching the clouds in the sky. If you ever feel comfortable talking to me, please know I'll really be there for you and anyone else who is going through isolation even if we're million miles away.

@raaaaaaarr

4 ай бұрын

Omg lol... I pee in a cup so I don't have to see anybody sometimes. I didn't realize that was part of it

This is not a medical condition to be treated with medication! Listen to the woman talking about "you dont have a son anymore" See? Our atitude is that we have, we have children, we have a job, we have money, we have a career, we have, we have, but we are nothing. We are nothing to this system but production factors population, voters, consumers, we are not us. From childhood on we are told to be productive, what does that mean, consume, work to consume. We instinctively want to be, but rarely can we. My generation, those who are now in their 50+ years, we put up with it. We took the abuse from our parents, from work, from family and society as general, we took drugs and drank to help ease the pain when it became too much. There are many, many out there who are sick of this system, sick of being played, sick of being blamed for things they never chose. Scociety is sick, stressed and empty and no medication can cure this. The young, who are still alive see this better then anyone, they withdraw in disgust. The older become angressive and cynical, lashing out and hurting where they can. Some become greedy, every one has their way to deal with this. Maybe we should be more understanding and search ourselves, maybe we should open our eyes to those sick games that are being played with us.

@elita__

5 ай бұрын

agreed. my mom definitely relates to this comment lol.

@yoursoulessmate

3 ай бұрын

Agree!

@Trisof88

20 күн бұрын

A+ statement. Every word hits the mark!

@pearlyung

14 күн бұрын

These people just don't want to follow that template that society expects of them. After all it is that template that destroyed planet earth. Maybe they don't want to be sheep like all of us majority. Maybe the majority is wrong.

@Travis_Yangzte

9 күн бұрын

@@elita__Hi Elita, I feel the same way. I’ve been introverted, mainly because society has affected me and humanity. I’d rather be alone than hang out with fake people. 😐

Excellent documentation. Thanks!

i used to be in similar situation until few months ago, im now getting an education but I'm unsure how long it'll last because since i started i've started to feel worse. more isolated and lonely. its hard to function in this hateful society as an autistic person. I wish i could lead a normal life, have a job and friends, I wish i didn't have this condition..

@dialatedxpupilzx

5 ай бұрын

Big hugs, Remind urself when ever needed, that the world is filled with hateful people. BUT the problem is never you, or autism. I dont say this to diminish you individual struggles. I say this to point out the fact that hateful people in our society would exist no matter what. Im a firm believer that everyone should seek to find their tribe. Find the people who get you, treat you right and respect you and who bring you joy and support you...and remember that Its quality over quantity. Ive had so many friends before, i couldn't count them all at points in my life..and now i only have a couple. and im FAR happier now. I too isolate a lot. But finding a few good ones, can make it all worth it.

@Bonebounder93

Ай бұрын

same i have a job but i feel even worse now i think for me its because i have agrophobia and nothing to do videogames and anime dont please me anymore and days fly like seconds

@byttercandy

15 күн бұрын

Same 😞

Let's all take a moment to acknowledge the great work Java Discover does👏 Thank you guys, for always bringing us very informative and interesting documentaries .

First case: nobody feel his pain, nobody reached his emotions. All the tone of the conversation is "hard"... she is not able to connect with the young lad in mental pain. People without emotions talking with a guy that numbed his feelings. Human beings need some warmth.

In nearly every case, there is an enabler. Part of the solution is to help the enabler to dial back the support, step by case. Also in so many cases, video games

I think they're extremely shy and sensitive.

I’m what you call someone who’s ”outside of society” in Sweden, simply because making adaptations to suit neurodivergent people in workplaces ”cost too much” according to authorities. The only thing I want is to be off welfare and have a normal life, but here I am unemployed and approaching 40.

I have suffered from BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) OCD, & Social Anxiety for the last 40yrs. So i can TOTALLY relate to what these men and women in Japan as Hikkomori's go through. In Japan if you don't fit into that "collective society" they live by your pretty much shunned. That is once you graduate college and don't get into the business world get a good paying job, climb the ladder, get married, and have kids in THAT ORDER your shunned. In America we live as an "individualistic society" where we think more about what's good for ourselves. In a collective society like many Asian nations live by. It's thinking and working as a group in every sense or aspect of one's life. If you deviate from that your frowned upon. This is where Hikkomori's typically develop shunned by family or society for not living up to a certain standard if you will. I love the Japanese culture and people but i DO NOT admire there collective societal pressures they place on people. It's to much for ANYONE to live up to in terms of standards. And so they have a major problem now with social recluses living off of there elderly parents money and under there roofs. Withdrawing from society due to these very pressures and a lack of society trust. In America we have more mental health awareness now they we ever had before. Japan is lacking in this area and only just starting to see the bigger problem or picture here if you will. A lot of these folks were NOT Hikkomori's before and it's societal pressures that forced them into that reclusive lifestyle. However, many do need deep psychological help and intervention through therapy and medication. Some are getting it MOST are unfortunately not. My hope is that Japan becomes more aware of this troubling problem. And makes the appropriate changes within there societal standards with less pressure put on children. In having to conform to a certain set of rules everyone must follow. Instead allowing kids to form there own opinions and most importantly path in life in terms of career and personal choices. And above all parents be comfortable and accepting of those differences. For me personally, being American i lost trust with society as i don't have many friends. And have difficulty making them or being in large crowds. I believe a lot of it is innate in other words i was born this way. And with American being an individualistic society people just don't care because they are to self absorbed within there own bubbles they live in. Granted i've gotten better through therapy and medication. But i still have a very difficult time trusting people and trying new things. Some of it is due to me being burned by past relationships or experiences. And this can lead anyone down a path of reclusivity. Particularly in a society that is very judgemental which i believe America is. Just because America is an "individualistic society" doesn't mean we don't judge or cast assumptions of others to hastily. Bottom line is both sides of the coin here be it Japan or the U.S. needs far more educating on these matters. They require patience and sensitivity most of all understanding. Individuals like those in this documentary or myself are just as disabled as someone physically. And we need to drop the stigma of; "If i can't see the problem, then they must be ok". That couldn't be further from the truth for MANY folks out there. So instead of pre-judging someone lend an ear or ask how that person is doing. You just very well may be saving a life in the process. Because that's all the individual needed was someone to listen and care.

@heinmolenaar6750

4 ай бұрын

Partly the japanese social weird culture is to blame.

38:20 "fragile adults" its not a word to describe people under this situations more when anyone could end up on this "fragile" state in any moment, watch out the vocabulary employed because at the end make it sound like most of the rest of population who have misconceptions about it without much knowledge and its worst when its comes from a documentary trying to raise awareness of the topic.

Merci bien d’en parler, on se sent moins seuls face à ce problème et ses conséquences.

That was sad how it didn't occur to her to go and see why her 58 year father could not get delivery of the cell phone, and/or visit him, just in general. But that also happens in the US as well, people don't want to be bothered anymore.

sadly this is not just Japan...

How is it suffering when it makes you feel good to be left alone? It’s society that’s the problem. This world is crazy.

@sito2601

4 ай бұрын

Sure but people need to be social, we are social creatures. Do any of these people in the documentary seem happy to you?

@Trisof88

20 күн бұрын

​@sito2601 People may need to be social, but some have a preference against it because of anxieties or that they don't have access to good people. Maybe the people around them try to eradicate their self esteem and worth so the only other option is to become a recluse

I have simphaty for these reclusive man. I have trauma during teenage age that change my character into opposite. Before that, I used to be very productive, cheerfull and always have high energy. Now, i am almost a recluse on daily basis. Everyday is always low energy. A trauma or something like that indeed can change person's personality.

These documentaires fascinate me because even though I’m not at a hikkikomori level of reclusion myself I understand where these guys are coming from. Our modern culture is so screwed up and atomized I’ve had weeks where I couldn’t leave my house but I somehow managed to stay in college and keep a job I give all the credit to my family for being extremely supportive because I probably would have ended up a drug addicted zero if it wasn’t for them. Don’t know why I’m writing this but it feels nice to get it out there. I really do feel compassion for these guys even if our society largely disdains or forgets them. The number is unfortunately growing and I hope we can make a change because it isn’t the young men who are broken it’s our society.

Hikkikomori is a destructive condition that affect not just the person but yhe family members. Victim cannot comorehend how to save themselves but at the same time living off parents , causing more burden without contribution. They felt remorse and guilt but parents suffered along with them.

@Rockerlady

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. It is as selfish as drug addiction, hoarding, gambling, etc. The family members are used and abused. Then the person with the condition plays the victim when confronted. These people should be ashamed of themselves. Parents shouldn't be bringing them food and letting them stay in the shed or wherever. They need to stop and think what would happen if parents got sick or died.

@ndjdj7989

Ай бұрын

One of the reasons why most people have kids is that so someone will take care of them when they get older, which is incredibly selfish. Getting born without your consent then being forced to live and follow the rules of this capitalist hellhole

@pinkgangsta6157

12 күн бұрын

​@@Rockerladyyour comments can make other suciede

@kenn_foxx5563

11 күн бұрын

@@Rockerlady Ignorance is bliss 🙄

the solution is try to step into their world... do the things that they like together, build up conversation on their interest such as gaming and compliment them for their interest..slowly branches out conversation for other things in life....giving them hints to get back into society working again or exercise

@eatntell1421

3 ай бұрын

I sort of agree with this. Most of the time, people need at least just 1 person to accept and love us. And it applies to all kinds of people. But there's no perfect formula, especially in extreme cases like this. How much/long do you support financially? How much should you push for change? What is too harsh or too lenient? Regardless, may we all be a true friend/family to the people around us. ❤

@mariabowers9604

2 ай бұрын

Or, you are 18 years old, go get a job if you want to stay in my house, not gonna let you sleep all day, play games all night, serve you food, clean after you, wash your clothes, pay for your internet and vaping.

@kenn_foxx5563

11 күн бұрын

@@mariabowers9604 Ignorance speaking? I live(d) it and it does not work that way.

I dont blame hikkikomoris. The world is a living fucking corporate nightmare hellscape. There is no mystery to me, concerning their condition. Its annoying why people find it so mysterious. If you ask me, theyre people who are especially sensitive to the real level and ubiquity of darkness in the hearts of people.

I am bipolar and I get like this half the time. The other half I’m all over the place. It’s really hard to find or even know what the middle ground is. I think another difficulty is at times I think it’s the idea that I have to be out and about that causes more stress than actually being out and about. I don’t think it’s a totally bad thing to isolate oneself.. especially since the world doesn’t line up with our ideals. Of course we have to interact with people.. for food.. work.. etc. but if a person doesn’t have to… and can live comfortably isolated and are content with that.. I think that’s perfectly fine and good… not saying we are all da Vinci… but there are benefits that comes with isolation. The danger comes if it is used as an escape. But.. if you don’t like people.. you don’t like people… not everyone out there share your world view or atttitude towards life.

that french lady made him feel heard, I couldn't handle a case like this with my temperament ( good thing i'm not a shrink), but I'd try making him understand that he is loved and he is a valued member of society.

@redleeks6253

5 ай бұрын

The parents are definitely his probablem because seems he is willing to open up with someone who is willing to listen and apparently cares.

36 here i became a hermit when i was 27 i live in the netherlands

@eternally6659

5 ай бұрын

That’s a weird age to start

@Wheyooo

5 ай бұрын

u need to understand u can not start this, it happends to u @@eternally6659

I wasfalling into agoraphobia for a period of my life. It was so hard to get myself out.

To be honest I'm not bad at making friends. I proved myself and others I can be extremely sociable and fun. Then I came to the conclusion that people are the ones who don't know how to handle me. You can't have independent mind and thoughts, they don't accept it. You can't be smart, they won't understand it. You can be humble but it is never enough. If you're lovely you will be consumed. So I'm better off behind doors. I'm not losing anything, put in your head is quite the opposite. Lost many years of my life after braking up with someone and with the world. Now when I need to face people I just do it, but then I have to endure a new disgusting feature; if you don't talk anymore to them to preserve yourself, you're "antisocial" to them.

Hikikomori here for almost 7 years.

@artcorbeau

5 ай бұрын

same

@butnevertheless5401

5 ай бұрын

It's hard sometimes, stay strong fellow hiki. @@artcorbeau

@kingcobra66666

5 ай бұрын

​@@artcorbeausame here I dropped out of university,it was too difficult for me

@heyyo162

2 ай бұрын

@@kingcobra66666 Better to drop out. I finished my masters degree and society doesnt want me anyway.

As one myself since i was a little kid i can say this. For me personally there was always too much overstimulations (school as a start) and i felt basically tortured.There's too much expectations, i could not focus because of those overstimulations. Highly sensitive also.

In 2020 after loosing my job i decided to become a hikikomori for over 3 years

@Be1New2You3

3 ай бұрын

who is supporting you?

@billyairline9205

3 ай бұрын

@@Be1New2You3 nobody, can you help me please

Crazy how bullying can make or break a person,does genetics have a play on these things

@DARKINBLADE.

15 күн бұрын

Feels like less genetics and more personality. Some people can’t take the heat, but that’s survival of the fittest. The truth is, not everyone is suitable for the modern world.

I had problems meeting new people etc and then i started going to football matches as a part of the ultras, atleast i feel like i belong somewhere and some of the people started respecting me and greeting me because i always travel.

@neganazmtech

4 ай бұрын

Türk müsün lan ?

There will be more cases. Its a serious social issue.

@artcorbeau

5 ай бұрын

especially young men. Western society is too punishing for men, and not everyone has the ability to overcome this

My destiny

I totally understand. People are exhausting. Best thing that ever happened to me was working from home

I heard about it in the anime Welcome to the NHK!

Interesting

i hope everyone that needs it are getting help i am of the mind i never want to quit being a recluse i cant wait till i never have to come out but that cant happen because i medical problems i just want to be alone and i like it

We've had hermits for millennia. When it was tethered to a religious ideology it was seen as acceptable - often lauded. Now that there doesn't appear to be an ideological underpinning, it's becoming medicalised. Why not turn the whole thing round and ask the question, 'is the world really so wonderful that one must be mad not to want to be out in it?' In essence our species (or more its precursors) evolved to move around the East African Rift Valley in familial or extended familial groups, and the 'civilised' world is something of aberration in the 200,000 year history of Homo sapiens. The whole phenomenon of the Hikikomori was first observed in Japan and I don't think this is any accident. It's a wonder that anyone would feel comfortable surrounded by 35 million people in the Tokyo-Yokohama conurbation and it's a testimony to human adaptability that most just get on with it - though whether they are happy with it is another question. Perhaps we can learn from the Hikikomori and their experience - after all, as the density of population in our ever more pressured, stressed and unhappy world becomes greater, more and more of us are doubtless going to be just like them. Perhaps it's the arrogant and self-satisfied outside world that needs to change as much as the Hikikomori - who might not be as mad or as much of a social problem as we think they are?

@hafizsenadbrick

5 ай бұрын

Buddha's way is to be hermit, living secluded and practicing meditation.

if Some parents's Still not aware of this problem? They should take it seriously and they are only 20 years old. Blame them. Nothing good will happen. ‘Hikikomori’. It is phenomenon. is not a social problem. Can't treat them like criminals.. ... ...Good luck. i have nothing to done for it.

Precious documentary! Only by unveiling the tumors can humanity stand of chance of healign them, this is valid for all of our planet's societies.

I often lock myself in my room then I'll realize that my parents would definitely think it might be their fault why I isolatw myself then it'll make me feel worse.

I'm 50% like this, I'm willing to leave the house to work, but the rest of the time I lock myself away in a room. I am able to work because it's with a few people and I know them all for over 20 years( because i've had the same job the whole time). Living this way without a source of income would be horrible. In fact when work is slow, you can feel it set in more every day that you stay isolated. I also maintain 3 friendships, but they usually need to come visit me, I don't like leaving my "area". I try to not slip into full isolation as best I can.

@cheesyspace

3 ай бұрын

Same. A job is a must but on free time i need time for myself what helps me is going in the nature or excercising in the gym or outdoor at least 2 times a week. Usually i play some videogames, listen to music watching stuff on youtube and thats it sometimes i go camping, meditate, work in the garden or swimming on a remote river and thats it. I try to avoid crowded places maybe its a mix of anxiety and personal preference 😂 but giving up is no option. I never want to go back to full isolation.

It took me like 3 minutes to try and figure out why I was understanding some of these Japanese words. LMAO

how you guys manage these problem?

Whats the difference to severe depression and social anxiety? Just a new name for a mental disease, the symptoms are exactly the same.

I'm an American female hikikomori so for me It's a choice, but mostly a societal problem. I really can't stand society and I gave up on it years ago. I'm very content being in my solitary life. Just because you don't agree with it, you shouldn't force someone to not be a hikikomori…

@cgtrout

5 ай бұрын

If you are self sufficient financially it is fine, but if you are placing a burden on other people it is not. I'd love to have a life where I didn't have to worry about the bills, but that isn't how the world works.

@tescobakery1927

5 ай бұрын

It's fine to be a hikikomori as long as you're not leeching off of your parents or the welfare.

"the day in which i realised the objective of life wasnt to be happy-was the happiest day of my life" the author i dont remember now, mother says "we just want him to be happy", isnt a healthy thing, noone can be always happy

Also? Because this topic is a matter of personal privacy. Most strangers (people in society) won't care about them. Especially on the Internet.Stop listening to society as peoples. Those without ‘Hikikomori’ experience. Everything else people saying 'it' can be called a jokes

@yoursoulessmate

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I can literally choose to ignore ur comment, as for an example, no matter what the context is. Sometimes i think there should be some strings that guide us to our people, even if that people if only one person and doesn't have to be a romantic partner, but they surely acknowledge us. Guidance. We need guidance.

6 years hikki here, lifes good

I wonder if people of old had this problem a lot. Probably there were cases, but how prevalent? Back then, if people wanted new clothes, they had to go and buy them from someone else. If they wanted to eat, they had to garden/farm/care for animals. And parents were probably more strict. Just making guesses here. Another thing i wonder about is, could this trend have been worsened by how easy it has become to isolate? How many would choose to stay in a room all the time w/o TV, radio, internet? It's a mystery without a straightforward answer, at least to me.

I disappeared. Nobody even seems to notice.

Pampared for so many by parents and suddenly so stressful by achievement, expectation, work, marriage, and babies. This modus operandi is not working.

In finnish language hikikamari means small rooms of sweating 😂🤔

the background music is too loud, annoying

Japanese documentary?

The world and its troubles have become to overwhelming for them so they remove themselves from the world.

They can baby themselves because they have parental support for sustenance and basic necessities. Hikkikomoris only exist while being coddled and protected by parents. Those without the luxury of this support will quickly find themselves dead or actually developing the necessary survival skills to grow up and move on in spite of the trauma and pain.

@starfox300

Ай бұрын

Correct

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@marpintado

6 ай бұрын

Excelente oportunidade para aprender Inglês, ou neste caso Francês. Pode começar no Duolingo, a minha esposa utiliza e recomenda. Mas tem de ser Português do Brasil? Não pode ser de Angola ou de Moçambique? O Português de Portugal obviamente deve ser muito confuso. Recomendo ler algumas obras de Jorge Amado, João Ubaldo Ribeiro ou Machado de Assis. Tudo excelentes escritores em Mandarim.

@redleeks6253

5 ай бұрын

​@@marpintadoA mulher não entende nem outras variantes da língua nativa imagine entender línguas estrangeiras.😂

@marpintado

5 ай бұрын

@@redleeks6253 E estamos no século 21.

I am German Hikikomori We insultingly call it incel. So you can't just talk about it 🤷 we're equal to assassins or rapists... Personally, the state actually scares me. I was often too easy a victim and if I tried to defend myself, for example with violence, I was punished for it. Cheating is allowed in our society. Anyone who gets cheated is just stupid. At the same time, you are not allowed to protect yourself and defend yourself...So what's left? Hide.

@GreyOatmeal

Ай бұрын

Same experience from Canada, The State and everything going on in the world feels like a joke, a complete fabrication.

I wonder how many cases are linked to autism and mental illhealth.

‘Hikikomori’. It is a very common phenomenon in Japanese society Aka Somewhat similar to Drugged Breakfast. Although I'm not Japanese, I have also escaped for more 15years. Some people's have symptoms of drug addiction themselves of act ect?..without realizing it. This is very common.

Étant hikikomori beaucoup de jugement. Ma mère ne comprenait pas mon anxiété sociale ma dépression et mes crises d’angoisse. C’est extrêmement compliqué et chaque personne a ses raisons harcèlement scolaire anxiété ect… l’avantage au Japon ils existent des organisations qui peuvent aider mais en France aillant vu des docteurs c’est direct prenez des médicaments 💊 forcer vous même si je force je vais pas commencer à aimer comme ça c’est très complexe . Ce n’est pas de la mauvaise volonté de notre part, le fait de rester reclus est aussi une bulle qui nous protège d’une société qui nous comprend pas.

@black-listed

5 ай бұрын

En revanche je te comprends! courage Claudia, je suis dans le même bateau

Thats me for the past 4 years!

Sigh, everyone is wrong. Being a hikikomori is not the problem. If you do it after becoming financial independent, no one would care. I made my fortune through real estate over the years, stocks with steady growth and dividends, and a little crypto luck, and then I decided to just become a hermit and watch KZread and play games at home. Grocery is delivered to me twice a week and I couldn't be happier with my life. No wife, no kids, no pets, no friends, and voluntarily separation from family do not bother me at all. No worries about social or welfare or religion visits cuz I own my own home and living off my passive income and fortune. So you see, as long as you become financially independent, then you will earn your freedom to be whatever you want, including being completely social isolated.

@scheretischlampe6241

5 ай бұрын

In my opinion that's bullshit.

@HarhaMedia

4 ай бұрын

Your family might suffer if they miss you. It's not that simple at all.

Yup, I’m that. However, if I was on the flip side, all hell would brake loose, and would not tolerate this shi’.

I thought this was a documentary about it happening in Japan. Not Europe

What if you can’t leave your apartment bc ppl keep entering your home illegally when you’re outside

They have the privilege of having family support. It’s very sad to spend life in own prisons. Everyone has their dark side. It may be related to their feelings toward their parents and upbringing. That’s why they are not afraid to put the burdens to their parents which could be an emotional revenge. Only those who don’t have financial support cannot have this luxury, so they have to face their demons and work.

@Grandmaster-Kush

5 ай бұрын

Or like me you get into debt between bouts of minimum waging, same lifestyle, just dooming your future quicker.

We are human beings. Some are introverts, others are extroverts. We are pack animals. Research has shown that the lack of social contacts makes us mentally ill. Some people are prisoners of their own depressions. They are truly lost there way and urgently need help.

I think you should cover the name of person who died from Hikikomori from the social ID

If the parents showed tough love and kicked them out of the home, I guarantee a good 80-90% of those hikikomori would no longer be willing to live a life of doing bugger all. They’d actually snap out and do something about the fact that they’re now homeless. As for the 10-20%… well, let’s be real, if they’d still rather be a homeless hikikomori, they’re a lost cause not worth saving anyway.

The internet is the problem, people aren't helping each other anymore. People are not there anymore you need more than your wife/husband or parents.

@yoursoulessmate

3 ай бұрын

I agree tbh

@Trisof88

20 күн бұрын

Doesn't really matter anymore. If you haven't sensed it yet, the world is circling the drain. It's the end of days

being adult work pay sleep consume alchool animal corpse secretions oils materialism debpt? ill stay a kid no thx lol

@XeL__

5 ай бұрын

suffering to play video game not working at least you have internet a computer a house and food? lol if its so hard go in india starve on street youll enjoy new problem of starving "boohooo i ate today not easy" no money will motivate you to work trust me.

@XeL__

5 ай бұрын

enabler

@XeL__

5 ай бұрын

it can also be lies deception and manipulation why act healthy if parent pay everything? if gouvernement pay everything? better prettend ill and have easy life i LOVE my tiny room and playing videogame nonsotp alone.. i love being hikikomori... easy clean. eat well exercise dont hurt anoye people gg

Japan's earthquake, Ouch

Japan is always 10-15 years ahead of the west...what happends there will eventually also hit us.....

Lonely epidemic at its worst

They live in a electronic simulated haze on line. Video games and Social media are their lives 😢.

il me semble que c'est une forme de dépression.....

I started out at 10

In my opinion, forcing young people to move out would help almost everyone affected. You can be a good parent, but sometimes you have to put your child in unpleasant situations so that they don't always run away and lock themselves away in the future. Older people who live off the state are harder to reach - here it's probably mostly a case of entrenched depression.

1. smoke weed all day 2. KZread, Netflix, Crunchyroll, Twitter, TicTok, online gambling, Xbox 3. Nicotine vape and bourbon 4. I cook myself 5. A dog 6. Go to church occasionally

I don't blame the hikikomori, and I can see why they have given up.

how can they pay their electric bill and food every day if they are always in the room?

@redwoods7370

5 ай бұрын

They are enabled by family and that contributes greatly to the problem.

@Trisof88

20 күн бұрын

​@@redwoods7370Please leave people alone and worry about yourself. Go and hound the government on why they use our tax dollars for artillery and enabling warmongers to drop bombs on innocent people in foreign countries

Leave him alone. I am not a hikikomori .... yet. But do aspire to be one. I am 70 and in financially secured retirement. I have a wife and two adult daughters. But over the past few years, I am finding it more and more tiresome to have to interact with the so call "normal" world and people around me. I desperately wish to just "drop" out and be a hikikomori, which is what would make me happy. 😀

Long live the ever evolving tech which brought with it the prosperity to a decaying family unison.

mother baby'd him wondering why this happened. Dad was never a man, and never taught him to be a man because it's always what mother said goes.

Seems to affect man🤔

@makmoerdesign1555

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it's interesting

@artcorbeau

5 ай бұрын

life is harder for men in the west

Sheesh. My parents are good people, but there’s no freakin way they’d let me lock myself in my room, and refuse to work because of “anxiety”. Even though I’d love to some days. Some of us aren’t privileged enough to afford staying with mum and dad.

@riotsquadgaming7460

5 ай бұрын

and some of us wish we were normal functioning human beings in society. but sometimes life doesn't fuckin work out like that.

@redleeks6253

5 ай бұрын

There are full time working people, even with their own kids living with parents. I've been almost 2 years like this after losing my job abroad and falling deep into depression. Coming back to my shithole country with low wages and an autoimmune disease didn't help. Actually i didn't want to stay locked in my room at my parents and wanted to off myself. Actually when i left i had people coming after me. The other option was being locked in a mental ward in case i tried to off myself. If i were put out i had the options of going to a shelter or off myself. I would off myself.

@user-lh4oz7gr2s

5 ай бұрын

@@redleeks6253 sounds like you had it rough around that time, sorry to hear that. Hope you’re doing a bit better these days.

@dinobuzzati3055

4 ай бұрын

This is a permanently life altering experience and your answer is that. This is often a curse bestowed upon unlucky individuals who have to deal with trauma, abuse, PTSD, mental illness, etc... And your answer is that. You don't see their pain so you take it lightly, but experiencing that and suddendly waking up or realizing that you waste years, sometimes decades, that life passed you, that everyone is gone, that you're an old person with the mind of a kid, and that it all happened so quickly with no turning is easily the most painful experience someone could possibly experience. On top of years of severe depression that led them to this, they have to face all that regret if they ever want to change and make it. And your answer is that. This is not a fun experience. They're not having the time of their sitting alone in their room wasting away on cheap internet distractions. It's a way to cope with immense pain other people can't see or don't have to deal with. The suicide rates among hikikomoris is insanely high compared to the general population, but you see someone playing video game or coping with art and immediatly assume their life is all fun and rainbow because they don't have to work or be independant.