Jandy JXI Pool Heater - Brand New Not Running Check Ignition Steps & Flame Sensing Failure
Frequent mistake preventing pool heater operation resulting in Check Ignition Steps
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Make the trades great again Mikey Pipes. Smash that Like Button Folks. Smash it for Peter. That first coupling is a shipping coupling. Hacks.
Mike, You are the man.
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The REAL moral of the story is if you are NOT calling Mikey Pipes, you are getting screwed!!
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
Yet the haters say the opposite. Go figure.
😱🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ seriously? What the F were they thinking?? Running a mechanical unit non-grounded talk about liability plus 🤦♂️🤦♂️ but serious great troubleshooting skills right there❤
I'm stumped. The heater was already wired and power was present? Changing the voltage should not had required reconfiguring source power wires. 😳
Wouldn't have known that it sucks in the gas so the lower number is okay. Learnt something!
Mike but the heater was running prior correct? Or did someone come before you and switched voltage settings and walked away?
no comments yet
@Samlol23_drrich
Ай бұрын
How about now?
Word of advice: require the pool contractor to subcontract out the heater installation to a qualified and licensed company like Pipe Doctor.
@jasongeo2
Ай бұрын
Mike where do i park my car if I come into work ? Parking seems tight there and there's a Woodmere parking ticket maid running around.
@jasongeo2
Ай бұрын
No punt to you Mike. But all anyone needs to rig up a pool heater is basic plumbing and electrical skills and common sense. Plus knows how to read instructions. That's all you need
That’s not even a coupling on the gas line. That’s a thread protector.
@jasongeo2
Ай бұрын
I mean they didn't have the right size pipes so they kept extending them. Obviously sloppy work no details. The electrical conduit poorly connected or say not even secure to the chasis leaving exposed wires. Thats why Mike likes to as he says observe the surroundings and how it all looks before taking next steps. It was easy to see Amateurs rigged it up
Did you have to contact tech support to resolve the electrical connection issue?
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
No, I knew the issue. I've seen this many many times before.
If you had to rewire it, why not terminate the liquid tight correctly and correct the ground wire? since you were the last to touch it, could they blame you for leaving it that way, if someone got hurt, or I guess as long as you tell the customer then you are in the clear? it looks like they could have removed that black grommet to fit the liquid-tight connector if they did not want to drill it out.
That gas line looks like it's made up with a "thread protector" rather than a proper coupling. They have straight threads and aways leak.
@harryschrysan3183
Ай бұрын
You are right looks like one of those they put to protect the threads. It's all the way threaded. Whatever works right?! 😅 🤣
Why didn’t the home owner just contact Jandy directly? It’s under warranty, it’s a brand new heater. They could have gotten it taken care of free of charge
@JesseDoesHVAC
Ай бұрын
Jandy would have come out, voided the warranty and charged a call out anyway. Thats why id bet Pipe Doctor got called out to bring it up to code and get it running…
@Jasheon
Ай бұрын
@@JesseDoesHVAC gotcha
I was checking the service manual and there is nothing pertaining to the L1 and neutral wires needing to be reversed when selecting 120 volts on the voltage selector board. Idk...not sure what you found?
@Poolmedic
Ай бұрын
That is a thing with Jandy. If you switch the hot and neutral the heater will not work properly.
@jasongeo2
Ай бұрын
@@Poolmedic I'm going take this as the line and neutral were improperly connected from the get go?
@Samlol23_drrich
Ай бұрын
I guess when it was 240 it’s 2 hot leads with no neutral. When someone switched it to 120 one of the legs is hot and the other is neutral and to fire the igniter it’s polarity specific, so if it’s done backwards it won’t fire.
@jasongeo2
Ай бұрын
@@Samlol23_drrich So if Mike would had switched the voltage selector back to 220 would it had fired up?
@Samlol23_drrich
Ай бұрын
@@jasongeo2 I don’t think so cause there was only 120 coming in. Same 3 wires as 240. 240 is HHG 120 is HNG. Guess there were the 2 lugs where the wires go whether 120 or 240. But if 120 one of the wires is N and it’s gotta be on the right lug.
Re Bonding - Why is their a concern of electricity traveling from the heater to the pool, if the connections from the heater are all PVC. There is no metal.
@GoogleMe-en9sg
Ай бұрын
Water is a conductor of electricity.
@StevenGage
Ай бұрын
@@GoogleMe-en9sg Thats the concern? That a pump or heater will have some type of short, and electricity will flow thru the water in the pvc pipe to the pool?
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Is this the same guy as the indoor heater?
@kens.3729
Ай бұрын
LMAO 😬👍
@steveg5576
Ай бұрын
That's funny !
What about the PRV and ground? GFI protection? Who paid for the repairs?
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
Homeowner
Hey Mikey, of Mikey Pipes Plumbing not easy being cheesy. There should be a number six copper bonding wire going from gas fired equipment to the main electric panel. And the equipment should be a GFI circuit. Again, a Class one, Hazaardous two location? "people, water and electric do not mix well. 42 volt can kill. But again, you are just a dumb plumber. Love you buddy, you be safe out there.
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
Love you. No homo gene
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Teflon tape on gas pipe , great.
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
Yeah. No shi*
The sound the heater made when firing the last time did not sound healthy. JXIs fail on a regular basis. We went through 2 of them. First time was through warrenty and second time I switched brands. Even if the install is correct the heat exchanger will still fail within a year regardless of water chemistry...
NYC fuel gas code. 403.9.3. Tape is allowed. But not at pressure regulator. Would certainly not consider it good practice.
@PipeDoctor
Ай бұрын
Wrong 😑
@aaronkoster3940
Ай бұрын
@@PipeDoctor was pretty shocked myself when I saw that, but it is in the New York City code. Apparently new to 2022
@aaronkoster3940
Ай бұрын
Look it up. It's there
What a screwed up install. Hope the owner has some recourse and needs to find another pool company. Installer needs to learn how to install it correctly
How is a Pool Company allowed to Install a Natural Gas Pool Heater ? Pool Company College Intern Program Special ? 🤪👎
morale of the story, don't let fools work on pools? 🤣
If an actual pool professional installed it, it would have been done properly and to code. Obviously this was not a professional company. As a pool professional we install pumps, filters, heaters, chemical control systems, automation and other equipment per manufacturer recommendations and to code. Telling my industry to stay in my lane and clean pools is offensive.
@kens.3729
Ай бұрын
If your Company is Qualified and Competent, you have every Right to Install the Items you Listed in your Comments. The Issue is there are a Lot more Unqualified Companies. 👎