Tyrion in canon: Oh you’ve earned more than that, Jaime. You and our sweet sister and our loving father, yes. I can’t begin to tell you what you’ve earned. But you’ll have it, that I swear to you. A Lannister always pays his debts. Tyrion in the show: vArYs nO cOcK

@TheLapisWarrior

9 ай бұрын

I love this line! It shows that Tyrion says that they earned spots on his list of vengeance

I remember this scene really hitting me in the feels when I read it a long while back. It’s so sad that this is the last you see of Jamie and Tyrion interacting in the books. They’re last meeting is that of one brother saving another, only for them to leave with nothing but sadness and resentment by the time they part ways.

@CookieMonsterMC11

Жыл бұрын

@@globoy8702 Stay strong brother!

Jaime always was surprised by Tywin's unending cruelty.

@Ironcorgi2

5 ай бұрын

You would think he would understand after the tales of the reynes and tarbecks. He constantly thinks his dad won’t be cruel.

@phantomguy1237

4 күн бұрын

@@Ironcorgi2 because tywin was never cruel to jaime. jaime was the golden boy, spoiled by tywin and given everything he wanted.

"Oh you've earned more than that Jaime, you and my sweet sister and our loving father, yes. I can't begin to tell you what you've earned. But you'll have it, that I swear to you. A Lannister always pays his debts." This was pure catharsis after having to suffer through all of the bloodshed the Lannisters had caused the last 3 books.

@Argos-xb8ek

Жыл бұрын

And the best part is The Lannisters did it to themselves

@Spongebrain97

Жыл бұрын

@@Argos-xb8ek yeah I like that being the biggest irony with the Lannisters with how Tywin in particular always stressed how important family was yet his family didn't love each other and if they did it was a warped love or none at all.

@joeschmo4646

5 ай бұрын

@@Spongebrain97nah man Tyrion genuinely loved Jaime and his Uncle Gerion and a bunch of others too. He hated pretty much only his father and sister. Tywin was a MASSIVE hypocrite though.

What strikes me about how awful this is is that there were plenty of ways Tywin could've gotten rid of Tysha; it'd be easy for him to arrange a convenient "accident". But no, he goes about "punishing" his son and Tysha in the most sadistic way possible. There's a reason why this, and not the extermination of the Reynes and Tarbecks is considered Tywin's Moral Event Horizon

@islandboy9381

Жыл бұрын

And it makes him bedding Shae even more hypocritical (plus the tunnel to the brothel which is hilariously scummy), it shows how deeply Tywin is filled with self-hate and he needs to be put down.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk

10 ай бұрын

​​@@islandboy9381no it doesn't Tywin was simply bedding a whore in secrecy, he wasn't being manipulated by it or loving it so it didn't ruin house Lannister in any way while Tyrion a second son tried marrying a common girl and threatened to have his nephew raped for Shae. The main problem with Tywin is he's lack of emotional support and awareness for his children, I mean he could of just told Tyrion ways to secretly bed whores but his obsession with perception wouldn't allow him to open up not even to his family. And honestly his hatred for Tyrion is kinda justified if you look at thier history.

@osmanyousif7849

8 ай бұрын

But it also makes what would possibly be the fate of King’s Landing very ironic. As it was Tywin’s hubris and ego that lead him to do what he did to his own son and first love. He let his own son to believe that he will never be worthy of anything, not even love. He in turn created a monster, someone who would end up destroying the very home he had. In the end, all of Tywin’s plans to help King’s Landing and its people would be for nothing, as he sealed the kingdom’s fate so long ago.

This is a 100 times better than the show

@ChadKakashi

Жыл бұрын

Yep. They ruined it in the show and it all went downhill from there n

@Orangestardust

Жыл бұрын

The show is a pale imitation.

@Alknix

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadKakashi The warning signs were there looong before it all went to shit. It's just that the source material was so good, even those two nuklefucks couldn't ruin it. Once they were on their own, it crushed and burned instantly.

@kingofdragons7

Жыл бұрын

​@@Orangestardusta fanfiction, if you will

@Argos-xb8ek

Жыл бұрын

​@kingofdragons7 What I hate is they had so many moments between Tyrion and Jaime where this bombshell could've been and should've been used.

These are my first times listening to the audiobooks, and Roy Dotrice is definitely not overrated. R.I.P

@Fatp1gtrollpig

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he has a very wide range of voices

@kameron7178

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a lot of posts on reddit of people criticising his work but I just don't get it, I was so taken with his voices

@oifikd1

Жыл бұрын

@@kameron7178 The only problem I had had with him was the inconsistency between and sometimes within the books.

@ChadKakashi

Жыл бұрын

I don’t like the voices he uses for the characters that much. But his narration is on point. It’s like I’m listening to the sagas of old.

@oifikd1

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadKakashi Guess that's a matter of taste. I especially enjoyed his Jamie and Tyrion.

By Jaime confessing this, he sealed Tywin’s fate and what Tyrion would eventually become.

@ChadKakashi

Жыл бұрын

Jamie’s newfound honor isn’t what he expected. Telling the truth doesn’t make everything magically right.

@kingofdragons7

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChadKakashiJamie didn't do anything wrong, only Tywin

@Tk-mj1cl

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingofdragons7Tywin didn't do anything wrong, he just was excesssively cruel in doing everything right

@kingofdragons7

Жыл бұрын

@@Tk-mj1cl the red wedding? His treatment of his children? The man is a brilliant tactitian, but he's a terrible person

@Tk-mj1cl

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingofdragons7The Red Wedding is a good example of a right choice which is cruel. The way to end what could have been a longer and and bloodier war by killing a couple hundred lords, instead of continuing this continental butchery. Speaking of children, all of Tywin's coercions and abuses were centered around teaching them to be dutiful to their family instead of pursuing their impulsive or self-centered decisions (like marrying peasant girls in case of Tyrion or protesting marital alliances in case of Cersei). And he was so good in instilling this values that Tyrion refuses to tell the truth of Elia's murder to Oberyn even when he is about to be executed by Tywin. In feudalism highborns shouldn't forsake their duties to pursue their desires, because the entire system is about being dutiful. What I am trying to say, is that all of Tywin's decisions are either for the good of the realm (as evidenced by his highly praised service as king's hand from Aerys up to his death) or to secure future for his family. Both motivations are good and righteous, yet he is cruel in its implementation. In my personal opinion, out of all characters Tysha is the only person whom Tywin had no cause to mistreat as brutally as he did. So it's ironic that Tysha actually becomes an indirect cause of his death.

The crescendo of “Light of the Seven” while Tyrion’s pain pours out of him gave me fucking chills. Absolutely incredible!!!

But for real though the show leaving out this scene changed Tyrion. Changed him forever. The part when he killed shae and tywin though was badass

@lewa3910

2 жыл бұрын

its' literally the point where the show drops in quality

@arvaakuka8568

2 жыл бұрын

And then, to add insult to injury, he kills Shae in self-defence

@marlondasilva8438

Жыл бұрын

It might have been different from the books but the first 4 seasons are one of the best shows on tv

@justcallmpeter

Жыл бұрын

@@marlondasilva8438 true I could watch seasons 1-4 any time of the week

@zillagrilla315

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, Tysha was only talked about once in both the book and the show. The only reason we learn of Tysha's importance was through Tyrion's inner monologues, which the show can't do.

you will have it. that i swear to you. a lannister always pays his debts.

This broke my heart, I cried when I read it. That poor girl, she loved him, she trully loved him and his family destroyed her for it. 😢

So much pain

Reading about the Lannisters destruction is the only reason I have to finish the series. Watching it wasn’t enough

@PedroLucas-mg5je

2 жыл бұрын

At the end, only the Kingslayer and/or the Imp will be what's left of the Great Lions of The Rock!

@alexandrostheodorou8387

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, some bricks killing Cersei wasn’t enough. I still don’t understand why didn’t Cersei give up the Throne. What made her get the Idea she can have it or even hold it? When Daenery’s showed up with Three Dragons, Dothraki Screamers, and Unsullied. Why didn’t she just surrender the throne and say “hey Im going to Casterly Rock, me and my brother will Rule as Lords Paramount of the West.” Daenerys would have let them. They would be alive and be in their family home. Really weird choice Cersei made. She hates the people. She hates Nobles. She hates everyone.

@islandboy9381

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandrostheodorou8387 I do believe Cersei was going to burn the entirety of King's Landing with wildfire, not just the Faith church, multiple noticed green flames in her eyes and her hatred built up from her being in prison would be the perfect catalyst. It makes no damn sense in the show that she'd just murder with wildfire and then still aim for the throne despite feeling betrayed and hating everyone with her heightened paranoia from that and the prophecy she heard.

@delta2372

Жыл бұрын

As much as I hate the targtards, the lannisters (with the exception kevan, tyrion and when he is not under cercis influence Jamie) that family deserves to die.

In the books this is where Tyrion learned the truth and he swore revenge on his family. All of them especially Jamie. That's what the show gets wrong. This scene pushes him over the edge. He has a hard time ever trusting. The only person that softens him is the lady dwarf he performs with. I cannot remember her name right now. To learn from the one person you loved your whole life betrayed you. When you thought you found the one woman who could of loved you. Really did want to marry you. She wasn't a whole just low-born. Then to watch her have sex with all those men. Just to teach u a lesson. Damn that's cold. The whole your brother knew the one person you trusted. Knew the whole time and tells you before you're supposed to die. He saves you yes. But how could you forgive him. All the while you've never told his secret of sleeping with cersi even when nobody suspected. You could of had him killed by king Robert. Him you're father and sister all gone. But you protected them because they are cannister. Damn this is one of the coldest moments in the books.

@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367

20 күн бұрын

"have sex"? weird way of spelling "get raped"

Omitting this from the series was so stupid.

@kevinkelleher5268

Жыл бұрын

B-But funny dwarf man not bad. Funny dwarf man good!

@DamienHanma

6 ай бұрын

I see the people who have that view, but even if you look at it from a keep him a good guy standpoint. This would have further pushed Tyrion into the victim on his way to revenge type of storyline. Whether good Tyrion or bad Tyrion, leaving out the tysha portion is a sin

@Ironcorgi2

5 ай бұрын

Especially cause it was something that would actually drive a man to murder their own dad. Tyrion is used to being falsely accused, he is not used to being loved. His wife actually did love him. And that was violently snatched away by his father, now he learns that was false and his father was just being cruel to his son

"Thank you brother, for my life"

I really enjoyed the way you edited the music in this particular part at 3:50.Its a tender moment at first but the foreboding music really makes you feel like something awful is about to happen.

Chills. Literal chills

This is so good

I heard about this for years, my god it's good

Excellent narration. The music is a little too loud though.

Tyrion watched him go, striding on his long strong legs, and part of him wanted to call out, to tell him that it wasn’t true, to beg for his forgiveness. But then he thought of Tysha, and he held his silence.

When the white raven comes The Winds of Winter have blown so one so be ready the books are coming

The background music is a bit too loud

I remember throwing my laundry at the tv screen when they screwed up this scene

Do the battle of the green fork

Tyrion be like "🤓☝ thank you brother"

goat scene

That's why I hate season 8 Tyrion suffered so much pain he saw women whom he love get rape and the people who made him watch was his brother and father, cersei how can tyrion forgive all this in season 8

@asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476

Жыл бұрын

Jaime didin’t even know about that, he was the only one who treated him with kindness

@matro2

10 ай бұрын

Tyrion did not deserve to continue living.

@Ironcorgi2

5 ай бұрын

Jaime knew afterwards he didn’t think his father would do that. Also it’s worse than that Tyrion didn’t just see a whole garrison rape a 14 year old girl but he was also forced upon her too. Tywin is truly a sick fuck

moonboy!

Heavy. Thanks for the read.

Dotrice imitating Tyrion is hilarious 😅

Is this just some guy reading the book? Like an unofficial audio book? Great idea.

@oldhunternadir4194

6 ай бұрын

You’ve probably found out by now, but this is the official audiobook.

Leaving this out of the show was literally one of the worst decisions D&D ever made. By leaving this out, all of the character development that Tyrion received throughout the entire story - especially through Season 4 - was rendered completely useless.

@osmanyousif7849

8 ай бұрын

It also also ruins Jamie’s character as well. As Tyrion confesses to him that he knows about Cersei sleeping with other men, including Lancel. Jamie, who didn’t realize this, begins to finally wake up and see what a control freak Cersei really is, and how she manipulates people by having affairs with them.

@Ironcorgi2

5 ай бұрын

Ya what made Tyrion interesting in adwd was he was the blackest shade of grey his character became

Jamie kissing tyrion that's very emotional

Can’t hear anything with the music

it's JAIME

I really want to see their next encounter. Will it be a duel, like Tyrion is implying?

Omitting this from the show was the biggest mistake D and D ever made.

epic shit here

nice audio quality remove random crits

mygod

Kinda like they left the part about Tysha out when Jamie rescued Tyrion in the show. Sure, it’s an unpopular opinion. But, tbh there was really no need to drag that scene out, or have Tyrion become like his book counterpart.

@mehdimoueddene7642

Жыл бұрын

Lame ass opinion, my Friend

@atroe143

Жыл бұрын

there definitely are reasons for tyrion to follow in the footsteps of his book counterpart, though you could say that about a lot of shit in the show lol

@islandboy9381

Жыл бұрын

He already turned like his book counterpart when he had that speech at the court, then they backpedal because they were scared to actually make Tyrion follow that dark path further that would have been more interesting. It makes his intent to kill Tywin less substantial (why would he shoot Tywin for calling Shae a whore when she deadass just tried to kill his ass for seeing that's what she truly is?).

@jugadorcastriot7796

Жыл бұрын

Probably the first change I had huge issues with. Totally kills his motivation to kill his father (shae is literally a whore that betrayed him) takes away a huge motivation to turn Tyrion against Jaime,, and an interesting character arc that wasn't so bland and goodietwoshoes as in the show. He is discriminated and hated on constantly but this event truly broke him. Probably one of the saddest moments in the book

@Ironcorgi2

5 ай бұрын

Tyrion’s main character conflict is him never feeling he can be loved for himself. And the trauma of tysha reinforced that to have it be he was genuinely loved and his father took that away from him and the only person he trusted in the world was the one who lied to him broke Tyrion which made it interesting

This shit is painful