It is so refreshing to listen to a filmmaker, and even more surprisingly a studio head, talk about how storytelling is the most important aspect of filmmaking.

@jorahkai

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@mexreax4493

11 ай бұрын

the stories are already there. People have rejected his story telling. Look at how horrible flash is doing

@vonpoevii

11 ай бұрын

That's all Snyder did, what are you talking about lol

@imjusttoogoodlmao8281

11 ай бұрын

@@mexreax4493James Gunn had nothing to do with The Flash. When the Script was developed and etc he wasn‘t even head of DCEU. He‘s the head of DCU. major difference, why are people like you acting like he‘s a bad comic book movie director? i beg of u. his comic book movies are fucking great. he understands and he will make good movies here in the dcu. Zack snyder will never come back, stop meatriding a dead thing

@imjusttoogoodlmao8281

11 ай бұрын

@@vonpoeviiyeah sure, thats why superman was such a wholesome hero! saving people, letting thousands die while fighting! wow man, that just lights my heart up! that moron snyder tried to approach the realism way with man of steel. he copied marvel. even back when there were not allot of em. snyder is a joke and his new movie that drops at the end of year is so ass holy shit

They need a Lex with the same gravitas as how Kingpin was played in Netflix daredevil. The way Vince played him should be a masterclass for actors. Your Lex felt more like that than any other I believe.

@MikeySkywalker

11 ай бұрын

Make Vincent D’Onofrio Lex! 😂

@talon3684

11 ай бұрын

Well said 💯

@crashingcoyote

11 ай бұрын

Apparently James Gunn wants Bradley cooper to be Lex Luthor (the voice of rocket raccoon) plus him & James love working together

@doc8013

11 ай бұрын

He was good in Daredevil but it def wasn't a masterclass lol. Still, it was really solid performance.

@talon3684

11 ай бұрын

@@doc8013 I disagree with you. Vince was phenomenal. It was a masterclass in my book.

James Gunn *is* a kind person, and I saw it happen once. He was at DragonCon one year, I believe soon after GOTG was a hit. He was scheduled to show up to greet fans one day, and the crowd was huge, including my daughter who wanted to see him. Well, as it happens, he was two or three hours late for a variety of reasons that were not his fault. When he *did* show up, he stayed till he had talked to everyone in that huge line, showing everyone respect and was the nicest, most energetic "celeb" there. I stood off to the side watching the room, and it was obvious that everyone there to see him mattered to him. Incredible, and humbling. I marvel at that to this day.

@zactionfigures

11 ай бұрын

I was there that weekend too! Such a great guy, signed free autographs 😊

@j0hn00

11 ай бұрын

He really is one of the most down-to-earth "big" movie makers out there. I guess he wasn't a huge movie maker at the time he did Guardians, but I really respect that after being shot to stardom and essentially staying there for a decade now, he's still just the same dude. He didn't let it all go to his head

@hemanabanana6906

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't let that fkr anywhere near my kids .

@connorsheridan3755

10 ай бұрын

A true chad

@valentinesolko4039

10 ай бұрын

He's a pedophile but okay

Finally, a creator that understand that superman is not a perfect god, he has flaws

@PreacHDefiant

12 күн бұрын

What? The most popular thing to do with Superman is explore the Evil Superman themes. Most directors look for his flaws

@netzach21

12 күн бұрын

And they look in the wrong places because most directors, like the general audience, only know the character from the Christopher Reeve movies, and now the Syner movies. And there are a lot of very good modern stories of Superman in the comics, but people in general don't know them

@Lt.Lickit

10 күн бұрын

@@PreacHDefiantnot necessarily. He can have “flaws” that he can learn from. Having a flaw while trying to be a hero is way more important than just evil. Since the hero has to focus on how he can do good without causing some type of harm. And since the hero is also trying to prove that people can be better. Where as an evil Superman most likely will not think twice before doing something he thinks is right. The problem with that is that he is an evil Superman that has to be taken down by other more than a hero does and most people see his ways as well, evil. Which will make it much harder for people to accept him. Evil Superman doesn’t learn, he realizes at the end when the damage is done. Hero Superman learns along the way and doesn’t cause as much damage as an evil Superman would. And with him having flaws that he conquered, he will have a much easier time getting people to accept him.

I love that he understands there is a difference between DC and Marvel characters. DC has the fictional cities that could never exist in the real world. The heroes have strict moral codes and are more inspirational than relatable. The secret identities are another huge distinction

@tylerdurdensmayhem

11 ай бұрын

Nah dc is more relatable

@seanleon2766

11 ай бұрын

@@tylerdurdensmayhem Because their characters exist in fictional cities?

@tweeks9896

11 ай бұрын

@@seanleon2766 way more weight to their personal lives compared to marvel characters

@JadedMax

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, there's no point in trying to capy each other

@dynaguy3

11 ай бұрын

They’re still relatable. Superman has a day job. Batman trained like any person hypothetically could. But when you see the Justice League lineup (especially in the intro of the animated show) it’s like looking at the gods of Olympus

He’s so confident in his super man script and that excites the hell out of me. Can’t wait!

@somersfamily

10 ай бұрын

😂😂

@JohnDavidSullivan

10 ай бұрын

you might be one of the few

@MalamuteMan1

10 ай бұрын

🤡

@megatronsroyalemissary382

9 ай бұрын

@@MalamuteMan1🤓

@aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh6424

8 ай бұрын

@@JohnDavidSullivan Nah, he's one of the many

Shoutout to Rosenbaum for asking the character of Lex to be methodical and serious and not goofy or crazy. Luthor is a presence when he enters a space and is someone who always has to be the smartest in the room. As far as films go, no one has nailed Luthor

@chaost4544

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. All the live action Lex Luthor's have been "crazy rich guy doing stuff because of reasons". Rosenbaum's performance gave reason to Lex Luthor's actions. The most formidable villain of the most powerful thing in humanity should be a complex character instead of one note.

@clayongayle8870

11 ай бұрын

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@kal-eljordan8329

4 ай бұрын

Lex plays 3D chess while everyone elese is opening the box of checkers! That is how he should be portrayed. And keep his prority in doing the things he does because he believes Superman, and other Metas will be the downfall of humanity. Love to see a live action Red Son!

@SilverAlaunt

4 ай бұрын

@@chaost4544 Yup. Personally, when I look back and remember his version of Lex Luthor, I see a character that finally found a friend only to see that friend get all the attention from his father that he wanted and that festered resentment. So, the relationship between the two was them navigating that minefield (that was filled with other hurdles and issues) and ultimately finding that while they would never truly be friends (as it first seemed like they might be) there was at least respect that developed between the two.

@carlgriffiths5108

3 ай бұрын

If they could get a person like Bryan Cranston's Walter White as a Lex Luthor character, that would be the template for a great Lex Luthor. The smartest man in the room, three steps ahead in every way, not afraid to do what needs to be done to get his plan done and that ego that knowing he is the only person who can truly be equal in villainy as Superman is a hero would be great to see. Or just get Bryan Cranston....

Gunn's love for Superman 78 gives me great hope for what he'll do with his film.

@catobaskerville5980

11 ай бұрын

Singer loved Superman 78 as well

Michael GETS Lex Luthor. I'm so glad he mentioned (at 1:11:46) that we need a serious, authentic take on the character in a live-action movie, where Luthor is both charismatic and terrifying. Please James Gunn, make it happen!

@dynaguy3

11 ай бұрын

Funny how they trashed Jesse Eisenberg’s Luthor

@Ishai1

11 ай бұрын

@@dynaguy3 He wasn't wrong though, those were some odd choices for the character when you compare to other iterations and Michael picked the right word there, gravitas.

@pkrmkn31

11 ай бұрын

@@Ishai1 no they wasnt, he was ripped straight from the golden age version of lex luthor, who did look and act different and over time has evolved into the character we know today, which is what snyder was planning to do, but you pribably wouldnt know that because you knew nothing about comics until the MCU got popular. nah here you go just have perfect lex straight away from the start just doing evil villain things hehe . snyder didn't understand the characters and gunn does? come on you cant be serious.

@Ryan_Wayne

11 ай бұрын

Funny reference considering that Gunn is basically poster boy for goofy movies and characters.

@jazzman7320

11 ай бұрын

@@pkrmkn31nyder very clearly didn’t understand the characters. Just as he didn’t understand Watchmen. The entire comic was against the fetishisation of superheroes, about how they’re all fucked up and do terrible things, and Snyder filled that movie with epic shots glorifying every single character. Granted, he did show some horrific things being done by them, but seeing as all the horrific moments he chose were integral to moving the plot forward, it’s hard to give him too much credit there. I’d recommend watching Patrick H Willems video on Snyder if you finally want to see his filmography a bit clearer!

I’ve worked in comics for 27 years, and James’ throwaway line about so few people reading comics was a kidney punch. Knowing you’ve put your life into an art form that’s withering away by inches is one thing; having the head of DC Studios say it is the kind of affirmation that’s soul crushing.

@SPREET5454

11 ай бұрын

Yeah. Unfortunately Print media as a whole is going away. Comics are still fun! Manga/Manhwa just seems to be a lot more popular at the moment.

@scienceByV

11 ай бұрын

Having picked comic books after becoming an adult, let me tell you comics are amazing and they have helped so many people

@frostyrose6597

11 ай бұрын

Don't give up! There are still people out there that care for this art form and you never know, there may be a renaissance for it.💗

@mj-hn5jx

11 ай бұрын

Take pride in the fact that while not many people read there is still so many fans out there that enjoy this beatiful art form. The art, the paneling, the dialogue the potential for greatness in this medium is infinite and there s a reason why directors like snyder sometimes copy them page by page in their films.

@ComicBookGuy420

11 ай бұрын

They'd be a lot more of substance if they didn't keep making movies that change everything about them The stories and characters are iconic for a reason, very few changes required

Superman Legacy is definitely one of the most anticipated movies of this decade for me. I really hope Gunn nails it.

@HueyFreeman666

11 ай бұрын

He'll nail it easily.

@ajuuvex4132

11 ай бұрын

1 things for sure is that Gunn Supes movies will not as good as ZS /MOS its might be goofy childish movies like GOTG

@Wolfhunter5607

11 ай бұрын

@@ajuuvex4132it definitely can be better than MoS if u said action wise then id understand

@romesrepublic

11 ай бұрын

With the way he's talking about it, I'm sure he will. He actually reads comics for fun. His Superman will be the most accurate we've ever seen.

@romesrepublic

11 ай бұрын

​​@@ajuuvex4132 Man of Steel is overrated AF. The only thing Zack got right was casting Cavil for the part. That's about it. I was looking at my wrist for a watch that wasn't there about halfway through that movie. Having a young inexperienced Superman go up against evil Kryptonians in his first movie couldn't have been a more bone headed move. Making him kill the first real threat he's ever faced was also dumb. Pa Kent taking issue with Clark saving his peers in the bus accident goes totally against Pa Kents' character. Zack had no clue what he was doing with Superman, and it shows. He read a couple of elsewhere stories and haphazardly slapped them together. Like he did with all of his DC movies. Elsewhere stories are great because of how different they are from the Canon. But you have to build a proper foundation for them to make sense. Zack is great a directing action and creating cool visuals. But his storytelling skills have always been weak.

James seems like the right person to be running the DCU

Holy moly. Hearing the head of a studio talk honestly about the current superhero movie landscape was amazing.

@mudiametokunboh2370

11 ай бұрын

Facts

@barry2349

11 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

@kevinkzt

11 ай бұрын

@@barry2349 44:00

10/10 podcast episode, so much gems dropped into this one episode. I truly understand why james can portray these outcast characters so god damn well on the big screen. Michael your portrayal of Lex is one for the books some true Oscar level stuff.

@Largentina.

11 ай бұрын

"so much gems"

@guyverxx

11 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@ndo533

11 ай бұрын

He writes all his characters as if they're juvenile idiots. How yall find that appealing is beyond me

@Jrod859

11 ай бұрын

Oscars are for movies. Emmys are for television

James Gunn is such a perfect choice for a Superman film that even his hair looks like the Fortress of Solitude

Man, Michael has gotten REALLY good at getting unique and genuine responses from guests. Howard Stern could take a page out of his book.

@MrHeart12

11 ай бұрын

one thing that kinda gets me annoyed with him is that he puts a lot of sentences in the guests mouths. I guess Stern actually does the same thing. It kinda leads them in a way. Sometimes, I think in a negative way. It also causes guests to say "no, its more like X" which can ruin the flow in my opinion. Just listen to this interview and notice how often he speaks for Gunn and Gunn corrects him. It might be a tactic to get certain responses from guests but I think its kind of annoying.

@jayguero2123

11 ай бұрын

@@MrHeart1247:20

@M613M

11 ай бұрын

@@MrHeart12 Yeah I've noticed that too. Hes gotten better but I remember in past episodes he'd drop a lot of random F bombs too, like to force emotion into the already forced sentences hes putting into their mouths.

@MrHeart12

11 ай бұрын

@M613M I think its just a way he communicates. I dont think he means anything by it. The guests like Gunn that already know him probably know that's how he talks to people and they are probably used to it. But it would annoy the shit out of me that he doesn't at least phrase it as a question.

@datboibaz147

11 ай бұрын

Or stern could jump into the Grand Canyon head first

I can’t help but think of that one shot fight scene for Guardians 3 towards the ending. Fcking brilliant. Gunn is an amazing director/writer, and he always has been, but that shot made me super hyped for not only DC, but for the Superman movie he’s doing. I’m all ears for what he has to offer for DC.

@kenxyooj2684

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. I may be asking a bit much since he’s a busy guy, especially as the head of DC. But I hope gets a chance to direct and/or write a Justice League movie (or movies) in the future. I think he’d do great considering what he did with the three GoTG movies.

@CheebsCheeby

11 ай бұрын

I told my daughter that that scene was one of the best/coolest fight scenes I've seen. Very stylish.

@Ay3shizzle

11 ай бұрын

@@CheebsCheeby it’s definitely a huge testament of how far Gunn has come as a filmmaker and especially with action scenes.

@chunky_mustard5312

11 ай бұрын

I'm probably the only one that wasn't mind blown by that scene. I feel like James and other Superhero movies have made better fight scenes

@Ay3shizzle

11 ай бұрын

@@chunky_mustard5312 yeah that’s just your minority opinion

I already had a lot of confidence in Gunn's vision for the DCU, but now I'm totally sold. He just gets superheroes. The man wanted to be a comic book writer, telling stories is in his blood. And that's what DC is known for, great stories. The games, comics, and animated series have a reputation for great storytelling. It's about time someone brings that great storytelling to the big screen. Make the movies for the fans, and you'll win most of the non comic book fans. Because you'll show them what they've been missing out on. It has never been a better time for a DC live action movie Renaissance since Disney has been releasing bomb after bomb the last couple of years. It's DC's time to shine again. Gunn mentioning creating a DCU bible for the rules of DCU like he did with Guardians was music to my ears. We will potentially witness cohesion in a movie universe, the likes of which we have never seen. Marvel did an amazing job all the way up to Spiderman NWH, but then dropped the ball and hasn't been able to get it back since. But maybe. Just maybe. DC can pick up that ball and run with it. Now that they have Gunn and his team leading the charge. However, I do think Blue Beetle, being the first character in the new DCU, is an unnecessarily risky move. Gun had no hand in that, that i know of. Therefore, it shouldn't be a part of the new DCU.

@BestOneEver247

10 ай бұрын

like most of your comment.. BUT i disagree strongly with your *Blue Beetle* statement

@romesrepublic

9 ай бұрын

@Bycet3000 And why is that? Blue Beetle is the last remnant of the old regime. It should be thrown out with the rest. A clean slate is what the new DCEU needs. They're already marketing that movie wrong. The trailers have given almost everything away.

Gunn has such an intriguing story. He went from Slither and Super to Guardians and now head of DC. HOW does something like this even happen?

@iambuhlockay8007

3 ай бұрын

He’s just that talented

@dcmastermindfirst9418

2 ай бұрын

Gunn is a genius

I want to tell you, I really appreciated the work that went into Smallville. I was born in 1987 and in highschool I dealt with depression and Smallville was one of my favorite escapes from my life. Thank you for all you have done. ❤

@3031mane

11 ай бұрын

9/5/87, we in the house👍🏿🤙🏿!!!

@amarcellus1714

11 ай бұрын

@@3031mane 11/09/87 Long live KIDS WB, FOX KIDS, WB 11, Cartoon Network, Toonami etc 🤗🤟

Also, Michael Rosenbaum‘s Lex Luther IS the best Lex Luthor, for real tho. I’ll keep saying it from pure desperation of wanting to see him come back as Lex!!! 😂 truly the best character development, dynamics, and acting done for Lex Luthor!

@rrkkmindsvids8774

11 ай бұрын

damn right he is!

@TheI.M.R

11 ай бұрын

But let's be honest the ending ruined his character

@jedsithor

11 ай бұрын

He's good but Clancy Brown was the best Lex.

@smittygaming5322

11 ай бұрын

Michael was the best lex ever and his chemistry with Tom was unmatched

@TheGenXer

11 ай бұрын

Clancy is Lex. Everyone else is second.

James, if you're reading this, just wanted to say thanks for all of the laughs and pure emotions you make us feel watching your movies. Will be there day 1 for Superman, and can't wait to see what comes next for the DCU.

Nothing better than a studio head being a fan of the source material

I’m 15 and aspire to be a filmmaker and this whole thing inspired me so much. James Gunn makes me feel so happy to love superheroes and I pray, if I ever can make movies, I wanna make a movie or something for the DCU. This sounds almost too good to be true.

@HealthHorror

11 ай бұрын

Best advice from my experience, have fun with it and make projects with anyone you can near you. Make many short films until you are ready to make a longer movie. Don't focus on getting fame and popularity. Always keep focus on why you want to tell stories and have fun with it. This helps you be more creative and different. Striving for the fame and power will just make you like everyone else.

@andremachado3831

11 ай бұрын

Nice bro. Just please work hard at it. If you at least push a little bit everyday, who knows what could happen? The world needs more people who actually care about movies.

@HealthHorror

11 ай бұрын

@@andremachado3831 Yep. I grew up studying people who lived and died for their filmmaking and their stories were great. Then I made it to film school in 2012 and quickly realized it was now a trendy thing to do and became superficial. And now you see what happens when we make something lose it's depth. Movies no longer have heart or soul.

@I-speak-U-shut-it

11 ай бұрын

Nice Hungry short film😊New sub😊

@filipratkovic5561

11 ай бұрын

Just make stuff, no matter how tough it sometimes is. Can't wait to buy a ticket for your movie

I always love hearing James Gunn talk about things and learning a little bit more about how someone as creative as himself works. He seems like a very interesting man and hearing his real feelings about chasing love based on fame and external accomplishments was an empty fleeting feeling and how he finally felt real love after being deconstructed and (wrongfully) fired by Disney in 2018 was some real shit. I really like how he talked about success as a gradual thing and as someone who seeks something akin to this myself, hearing it from someone I greatly admire was really insightful and impactful.

@guyverxx

11 ай бұрын

Wow 🤣

Listening to James Gunn talk about how he operates in his creative process gave me a great sense of how positive things are and can be no matter what passion or profession you do. I really needed to hear someone say these words today, just wow… really helped me over a lot of stumbling blocks, thanks for having this podcast!! It truly leaves me feeling better about myself and my environment! 🤯😮🤔😌

James Gunn seems like a really great person to be around 😊

Michael I promise you ARE the best Lex. Not just for me. I see it on all my social medias. You captivated it in such way that in my humble opinion was better than Hackmans. By miles. You made a character that was supposed to be hated so so loved. I rewatch Smallville every year and I just can’t help but love and hate Lex. I love him because I know he needs it and that’s all he wants is love but I hate him for how he goes about things. You brought that to life. And I’m definitely fanboying here, but even my wife says that you’re the best of that entire series. Any other Lex that isn’t you is really just an imposter. Obviously I’ll give whoever James casts a chance but for me you are the definitive Lex Luthor. You have no idea the amount of people that truly love you as Lex. Okay that’s enough fanboying for now. Keep up the good work man.

@bobertgallardo2029

11 ай бұрын

Definitely. He conveyed "layers" to the character as apposed to the generic "bad guy" we've seen before smallville. I'll be it a reason the layers were able to flourish is because being able to translate that over seasons instead of a 1hr30mn-2hr movie.

@karnsingh3768

11 ай бұрын

Rosenbaum’s Lex was an awesome, and ultimately critical addition, to the superman legacy

@grrayfox2300

11 ай бұрын

Nah he was better as Wally West. The definitive Lex Luthor was the animated character played by Clancy Brown

@cowabungadoug

11 ай бұрын

@@grrayfox2300 yup.Clancy Brown is Lex just like Mark Hamil is the Joker. Both completely redefined the character with their voice as the template.

@annoyedtorchic8270

11 ай бұрын

this is for real, as of today he still is, no one played Lex Luthor like he did

Im SO excited for a creative like James Gunn in the DC leadership. Loved what he said in regards to too many super hero movies being made. His reasons are spot on. He respects story and character. Knowing James Gunn scribbles boards and visuals with his scripts, has made me like him more as a creative and filmmaker. This is why he respects animation too. Can't wait to see his DC slates.

Michael Rosenbaum in DC Studios is something I NEED to happen. Preferably as Captain Cold, 'cuz Lenny's one of the best characters ever made and Michael would nail it as part of the Rogues™ in Flash mythos!

@ToeTag1968

11 ай бұрын

I was wondering where Michael would fit in the DCU. If Brosnan wasn't already cast, I thought he could have been a good Dr. Fate. Gunn definitely needs to cast his friend.

@jamesanderson1139

11 ай бұрын

He'd be a great Leonard, I wonder if he can act as crabby/crusty as comics Cold

@talon3684

11 ай бұрын

Rosey in DC feels inevitable. Has to get the right role

Only people who dont read comics think superman is a God. Supermans humanity and relatability are what people read superman for

Being in a very low point in my life right now, with a sick child and a broken relationship, this video really-if briefly-helped me realize the good old resilience idea that 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' (from 56:00). So, I guess, thank you James & Michael.

@Eserr7856

11 ай бұрын

I am really sorry you are at a painful low point in your life, I pray for peace and blessings for you and your sick child 🙏 ❤

@Pray4Cilley

10 ай бұрын

Hang in there man 💪

@steewith2ees14

7 ай бұрын

same love from me as the other respondents ArmandE hope ur young angel gets better as soon as is possible xx

Great to hear that Blue Beetle has a chance of continuing as he’s the “first DCU character”.

@CheebsCheeby

11 ай бұрын

I hope it's good. The trailer gives good vibes but who knows...

@Sanandresfault

11 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure it will. Early testing screenings say it’s a good movie

@jedijones

11 ай бұрын

@@CheebsCheeby The trailer is a steaming pile and the movie is going to be the latest DC flop produced by Peter Safran.

@Jjw338

11 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s gonna be a hit. Looks very Disney channel type summer movie.

@ethankleinman1067

11 ай бұрын

​@@jedijones *in your opinion

Great interview Mike! And just to be perfectly clear - James was right - you were the best Lex. I loved Hackman - he was perfect for Superman The Movie, and I liked Spacey for Superman Returns he carried that tradition forward. But your performance as Lex, week after week - brought the weight, gravitas and intensity to the role that Lex should always have. If they did bring any one back for Lex - I would hope you'd at least get a call to read - you nailed it. So glad to hear Jame's take on everything - couldn't agree more. James - can't wait to see what you bring to the DCU.

@domingorubies656

11 ай бұрын

Him and Clancy Brown , Animated Series

@grrayfox2300

11 ай бұрын

Clancy Brown is the best

Did he just say that The Flash is one of the greatest movies ever made!? Now I'm worried for his future movies.

@metaldragmire8539

Ай бұрын

Head of DC remember? Can’t go around talking trash about a movie that the studio you lead made. Criticism is fine, but calling it outright garbage might not be the smartest move.

That story about him feeling loved after Disney fired him really got me man. Great stuff. PS every one of your posters on the wall are movies I grew up loving.

I agree - Michael here is the best Lex and the best Flash :) I really liked hearing Gunn describe how he's always asking for ideas and feedback. No ego, just looking for the good ideas and to try to make something good. And then not taking it personally when people don't like something - it only means they didn't like that thing, not that he's a failure or they didn't like him. It can be really difficult to separate something you made from your own identity and self-worth.

James when you got fired it effected me greatly. To see everything that you had built get taken away hurt. It was horrifying to know that that the growth you have experienced in your life meant nothing because of things you said when you were in a different place. For whatever reason I have always felt connected to the type of person you are. So I just want to say I appreciate you being the person you are and how you handled yourself with love. Us fans see that in the people you surround yourself with and the story’s you tell. So dude genuinely thank you for helping us feel something and being a terrifically flawed human being.

@EuroNation

11 ай бұрын

Lmao cry a river brother

re-watched Justice League and Unlimited, and this show with James Gunn reminded me of one of the episodes. It was where Lex Luthor and Brainiac combined with that nanotechnology, and after flash defeats him by going faster than he ever has before, he starts to fade into the Speed Force. And then it is the most overly corny dialogue imaginable, The Flash says that he has to go now as he talks to Diana, she does the emotional no scream, and then Martian Manhunter is doing the clothes dies of his hand out saying that he could still feel your presence and that you're not gone. The way it was all put together just makes me laugh every time with how classically corny it is

@I-speak-U-shut-it

11 ай бұрын

The way Lex's body was being transformed into Brainiac scared the crap outta me 😊But yeah. I love that episode 😅

So glad we finally have a person in charge of the DCU who really understands us as fans

Would have enjoyed the announcement of Michael's return to his Lex role. Best depiction to date

@MikeySkywalker

11 ай бұрын

It’s not the right tone. It would be cool to have Smallville do a an Elseworld show with a modern budget though.

@orbchords533

11 ай бұрын

@@MikeySkywalker I think he could pull off any 'tone'

@MikeySkywalker

11 ай бұрын

@@orbchords533 Okay, but you specified his particular depiction. That's the only reason I said that.

@NeedMorePlebs

11 ай бұрын

​@@MikeySkywalker how do you know what the right tone is?

@MikeySkywalker

11 ай бұрын

@@NeedMorePlebs I didn't say I did. Lol. James did.

THE SUICIDE SQUAD was so underrated , that movie is EPIC!

I'm on season 6 of Smallville, started rewatching because of Talkville, and your Lex is so cold and ruthless now, that it is heartwarming to see you on this podcast and Talkville as the nice and wholesome person you are. Love what you do and love Gunn's laughter at the episode start.

@clayongayle8870

11 ай бұрын

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That was a terrific episode. It is great to see a more personal view of Mr. Gunn and his creative motivations.

Love how Rosenbaum did a slight roast on batman v superman Lex Luthor lol

@MrAsmontero

11 ай бұрын

Worst Luthor ever

@I-speak-U-shut-it

11 ай бұрын

​@@MrAsmonteroFAAAAAACTS Zack Snyder. As a crappy storyteller that he is. Should've never brought it Lex Luthor. He should've just cast another Zod 2.O. Another alien. Like Parasite, Lobo... Zack Snyder did an amazing job with man of steel in terms of bringing in alien fights. One or two on one fight against Superman. Lex Luthor is a character that requires good storytelling and Snyder sucks at that lol

@kevinkzt

11 ай бұрын

I think they went overboard. Michael Rosenbaum shouldnt just say that obvious like that

@user-he3op5pi6i

3 ай бұрын

phuku @@I-speak-U-shut-it

I truly hope Gunn does DC justice he made the best movies in MCU and peacemaker was a fantastic show !

@midnightxtale

7 ай бұрын

MCU is the worst

Wow, I loved this! I am a fan of Snyder's DC, but I'm very excited to see what Gunn does with his vision for DC.

I'm very optimistic after GOTG 3 and Peacemaker. GOTG3 really hit me, (spoiler) he showed you can have the most heartbreaking (yet positive) trilogy ending without killing the leads off. I really hope that his Superman is one for the history books. Also - yes Michael is the best Lex, this shouldn't even be a discussion. Yes Hackman and Brown did their thing, but Michael had the benefit of many years to develop him and IMHO owns it (in my head cannon Clancy Brown is just playing Michael as a man in his 40s or so....)

@ben_jamin197

11 ай бұрын

It'll be shit.

@TSF15152

11 ай бұрын

We already had him with Henry now he will turn DC into a comedy movie with terrible boomer jokes every 5 minutes

@guyverxx

11 ай бұрын

😂 fuqin normie

@aegnor2102

11 ай бұрын

​@@TSF15152 so you understand nothing about Gunn DCU. He already explained many time that there is going to have movies and series from many genre. Swamp Thing will be horror, Supergirl will be a violent SF movie, Booster Gold will be a comedy, Paradise Lost will be a politic/game of thrones style show, Waller will be a dark TV show, Creatures Commandos will be in The Suice Squad style... Nothing like a humor dictature like you're saying

I love how Gunn just casually dropped that Blue Beele IS INDEED the first character in the DCU!!! Hell yes!!!!!!! Can't wait for that film!!

@freebird6591

11 ай бұрын

I wonder if that implies that the xurrent flash at the end of the flash film might not technically be considered as going into the new dcu?

James is right about emotional connection. Every one of Gunn’s movies tend to make my eyes water. Especially at the end

Love to see the close friendship these two have, made the episode that much more entertaining.

Great episode! I didn't expect James answering DC questions so openly, obviously you are a smart guy and didn't ask questions you already knew he couldn't answer but anyways both of you took a few risks and spoke more than one could ever imagine without disclosing any secrets. Great one Mr. Rosenbaum.

I think something that a lot of live-action interpretations (particularly in film) that they miss about Lex Luthor is that he resents Superman for what he represents to humanity and how he's idealized. He believes that humanity should not put its faith, trust, and hope in this incredibly powerful alien from another planet. They should rely on themselves to solve their own problems and lift up their own species to achieve its true potential, and holding up this extraterrestrial on a pedestal as an ideal for humanity to strive toward hinders that. Lex himself is a successful executive and is an extremely intelligent human, so he sees himself as an example of the potential that humanity as a whole should strive to achieve, so there's a personal resentment that this alien is being put on that pedestal when he believes that he, as a paragon of intelligence, ingenuity, and success, belongs there more.

@troillandford7679

11 ай бұрын

When you put it that way, lex has a very logical world view

@adrianarcega4058

11 ай бұрын

@@troillandford7679 Which is why Lex done properly would make for a compelling villain. That anyone of us can easily buy into Lex Luthor's ideology. Kevin Spacey *almost* touched on that.

@clayongayle8870

11 ай бұрын

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@ssjcosty

11 ай бұрын

As a humanist, I also believe that us humans should rely on our own capabilities to solve our problems and improve our societies, and not just put someone on a pedestal just because they have massive power. "Might makes right" is a morally bankrupt idea. That said, Superman can help, especially in emergency situations. Yes, humans can and should improve things, but ultimately that shouldn't mean you just let someone die in an accident when in that moment you have the option to save their life. People don't appreciate Superman just because he has tremendous power, but because he offers help, he saves lives. Lex believes that he belongs on that pedestal more than Superman, but he is wrong. He is rich and powerful, but doesn't act for the betterment of society, nor does he seem to care for the well-being of people. He sees people as disposable tools that he can use to achieve personal power. Someone who really cared about people's well-being wouldn't commit the atrocities and criminal activities that he does on a regular basis. Lex is a corrupt businessman and at times politician, who doesn't care about things like fairness, human rights etc., and whose purposes seem to be to have power, rule others, and humiliate anyone who he sees as a potential threat to his status.

@kyleshea384

11 ай бұрын

@@adrianarcega4058Kevin Spacey touched a lotta things

With gunn mentioning that so many production people don't get brought up enough I'd love to see the upcoming DC movies use the old style of credits that play over the opening, encourages people to actually take in those names rather than idly waiting though the end credits so they can look back up once the after credits scene plays

Such a great laid back interview. I could have listened to this for hours and hours.

Didn't think I could love James Gunn any more but he's so fantastic. I love his absolute love for making movies and doing it right

@xREAVERx

11 ай бұрын

@alex cris he made a poor judgment joke well more than 10 years ago. We've all made mistakes, he's learned from his and never repeated, it's called growth

So thankful james took over DC. It deserves better then what has been the status quo

How can you watch this and not be excited for the dcu, he knows his shit, he not only delves in marvel and dc but other comics as well, so you know he’s a fan, unlike snyder who I love but just doesn’t have that comic book feel to his movies, snyder feels like that jock who read a comic and just was inspired by the visuals of the art but not of the story. James does emotion and dealing with loss really well, something that the old Dceu lacked.

Loved it, I have a lot of respect for Mr. James G. after this interview. Can't wait to see his take on the DC 😉 Thank You very much Michael 💪🏼 Amazing work!!!

The moment I realised I was really and truly loved was when I was diagnosed with leukaemia and my friends told me the things about me and the things I'd done that made me special to them. Acts of kindness that I had done and forgotten about but meant the world to them at the time for example. It was so humbling... as Mr Gunn implied being kind matters and in your darkness moments you are repaid with love and support

Finally!!! Someone that understands DC !! A proper comic book fan. I’ve always been a fan of James. I’m so happy that DC is under someone like him. This DCU will be like the DCAU and Young Justice

I cannot wait to see him take on Superman! I also love Gunns movie "Super" waaay underrated.

@spiceweasle3945

11 ай бұрын

"Super" is so good!!!!!

I'm not a film maker or in the industry, just a working musician. But man I would love to hang out with James Gunn, he is so intuitive and focused on creating a cohesive form of art.

This was a great interview. One of the best I’ve seen and every inspirational. Thanks guys!!!

Michael Rosenbaum should be the DCU's Lex. His role in Smallville as Lex has always been the best version of Luthor outside of comics. Imagine that in a movie made by James Gunn.

@jedijones

11 ай бұрын

LMAO, imagining that makes me sick to my stomach. Great way to turn a movie into nothing but a cheesy TV show that doesn't belong on the big screen.

@ethankleinman1067

11 ай бұрын

@@jedijones lol nah

@I-speak-U-shut-it

11 ай бұрын

​@@jedijonessucks to be you lol

James, I could not be HAPPIER that you are taking over DC. You are going to do incredible things! I would love to see a live-action "Kingdom Come" with Michael playing the Speed-Force version of Wally West. I would really enjoy seeing Rosie suit up as the Scarlet Speedster at least once in live-action

I totally relate to that whole experience of knowing people love me but not really feeling it. Haven't heard many people say that in my life so that's comforting to hear.

Amazing. Thank you to everyone involved in making this interview happen. I liked.

I’m very happy for James success, I love how down to earth and casual this conversation was, and I hope Michael Rosenbaum has the opportunity for a significant role in the new DCU, because it’s always great to see Michael show up in movies and TV shows

I heard rumblings of James working on a new superman (mainly from this podcast) and as sad as I was to hear it will be re-cast. It's great to hear that James is bothered by some of the real problems that are arising in the Superhero movie business especially story wise. Superman matters, and It's great to hear him chat about his approach to the idea and what makes the story important and that DC will be taking a quality vs quantity approach. Can't wait to see what James / DC does for Superman.

@Ay3shizzle

11 ай бұрын

Dude he may as well give us the best Superman film in a long time that’ll help make Superman popular again.

@matthewmartin4394

11 ай бұрын

Not rumblings. He wrote the script, is close to casting Clark/Supes (possibly David Corenswet), & it already has a release date.

@CleansHaven

11 ай бұрын

You heard rumblings? It's been announced by him and extensively reported on. It's called Superman: Legacy

@JohnWick-yw4oo

11 ай бұрын

I heard he was going to cast Bradley Cooper as Clark’s father. I don’t know if that’s Jor-El or Jonathan Kent. I’m thinking it might be Jonathan Kent though.

@jettisonedguy257

11 ай бұрын

@@CleansHaven Yeah I'm a slow learner

42:00 Omg he literally quoted Nora Allen from Flashpoint Paradox 😂❤

I've watched several James Gunn interviews the last several weeks, and hands down this was the best by far.

I was excited for the DCU before this interview... After watching this I am even more excited and hopeful that James Gunn will do the characters of DC justice.

The last few shows have been incredible. Great guests, great energy, you guys are firing on all cylinders! I'm still hoping you continue the Star Trek run and do a Poolhall Junkies reunion with Anson Mount!!

Very interesting interview with lots of questions I had about James answered. Great episode Michael

This is a legendary interview and I love it! Thanks for putting it out and asking great questions. Nothing better than a conversation with two olds friends, it just so happens yours runs all of DC lol.

Great interview! Was great to hear James Gunn talk about when he was let go by Disney and all the support he got. Looking forward to his next project.

It’s pretty funny when you realise the poster that is behind James Gunn.

James Gunn just saying Blüdhaven gets me stupidly excited

It was very enjoyable listening to friends talk. You have talented friends, but those friends also seem to be good people that love and appreciate each other. You are very fortunate to realize it and work to keep the friendships going.

The way they danced around Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luther is priceless and the way they called out all of the criticisms on Snyder's Superman was spot on as well they don't want a character to be portrayed like another character and a grumpy Superman was never gonna work for many poeple.

Back in my senior year maybe a little after I graduated I heard rumblings of James Gunn working on a marvel movie and it was GOTG and I was so excited because I was a film nerd who loved Slither and Super so I was hyped at this. Well time had passed and I enlisted to the Navy. I timed my basic training to end so when I got out GOTG was opening for its first week. So once you graduate you get a day out with your family and I spent my day with my parents in Chicago at the theaters to see the movie I was so hyped to see. It was a motivator for what I was going to do when basic was over. Now I’m out and I’m going to college and starting my film making journey. I’ve got a long way to go before I have any business trying to manifest this but I do have a dream of working with James Gunn at some point even if it’s just plugging in lights.

literally the only podcast i watch/listen to, always a great job!!!

This was a great interview. It’s always good to hear JG, but even more so on a personal level and some of the behind the scenes stuff that we don’t hear about

This interview really shed a new light on James for me. I was incredibly disgruntled over his DC decisions. This definitely changed my mind. This was 10/10 interview

@Eserr7856

11 ай бұрын

Hes a genuine storyteller first who cares deeply about the characters, doesn't matter if it's Superman or batmite, he focuses on quality over quantity ($$$) , and it gives me alot of confidence in him leading DC studios

@lobobobo8471

11 ай бұрын

What DC decisions are you disgruntled about?

@kevinkzt

11 ай бұрын

@@namgge2612 Im sure if dcu is successful there is a chance for Henry Cavill to return as in like Crisis On Infinite Earths if many fans demand it

I'm really looking forward to his DCU. I love all his work and he seems like a true lover and someone who understands comic books. I want my guy superman to be back full glory. can't believe it's ten years since the last.

If you are a fan of filmmaking, I recommend a book James co-wrote early in his career titled "All I need to know about filmmaking I learned from The Toxic Avenger." I used to intern at Troma and it was a damaged copy so they let me keep it lol A super fun read and little tips/tricks for low budget filmmaking.

Great interview! Loved the vibe!

This episode was awesome! I am looking forward to see what James has planned for the future of DC. I enjoyed hearing about his creative process. His view of fame is so true. I definitely agree that you are the best Lex ever!! I enjoyed this episode immensely!

Getting to talk to James Gunn is certainly a big get! Michael Rosenbaum, Lex Luthor in Smallville and The Flash in the DCAU, chatting to the Guardians trilogy director and DC Studios co-head - what a combination!

Love seeing James Gunn on here.The new head of DC. Such interesting stuff shared. Really enjoying James' candor and way of explaining things.😀😀

Wonderful interview Rosie! It was great to see the two of you interacting. Really can see the friendship you have. I cheered when you were in GotG 3. Tell James, he needs to let you actually be seen!

All of these interviews are down to earth and relatable.

Bro, the flash telling Gunn telling him not to screw up Lex Luthor was awesome

@jazzman7320

11 ай бұрын

Flash AND Lex telling the studio head and director of the next goddamn Superman movie not to screw up Lex. Seriously, this is too beautiful. What a full circle moment for both!

@I-speak-U-shut-it

11 ай бұрын

I wish Michael would get Zack Snyder on his podcast just to rant on him about screwing up the Lex Luthor character 😂

Love this interview. Love how personal it gets!!

Man we had no idea but Superman: Legacy being retitled as simply, SUPERMAN has been sitting here in this video for months without any of us realizing

Happy to hear that Blue Beetle is first dcu character. Very much excited for the future of DCU.

I really enjoyed GOTG 3. Not sure what James' vision is for the DCU but I hope he changes his mind about Michael as Lex. It would be great to see him return to that role. He really was the best Lex Luthor.

@RandyCassidy-xc3ep

11 ай бұрын

I love Henry Cavill so much not sure how id feel about another superman movie without him.

@ethankleinman1067

11 ай бұрын

He never directly said that Michael is not getting the role so who knows. We will have to wait and see.

You’re the only subscription I allow notifications for. Thanks Lex and love ya.

Being a writer and a DC fan forever, I'd love to work with James and thr new DC team to make DC as big and epic as it should have been years ago. Love that James works with newbies that other big studios would, thats how you find that "lightning in a jar" formula.