This is probably significant enough to ban an entire speedruning category isnt it?

My only theory on why they changed it was that they maybe wanted the three-fingered one to match the precursor robot arm that the lurkers zeppelin were trying to pull up from Boggy Swamp. Perhaps the implication was that Klaww was due an upgrade for his scrawny unarmoured arm once the Lurker zeppelin was successful?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

This sounds like a sensible explanation. I just can't find enough screenshots.

@trashlord3214

Жыл бұрын

I *was* gonna say that they probably initially changed it in the PAL region because it's considered offensive for characters to have four fingers because a lot of people working industrial jobs get injured and lose fingers... but then i did some research and found out Japan got NTSC games . _. (EDIT) maybe was easier to localize a PAL game to NTSC-J than NTSC to NTSC-J so they made the change earlier for convenience sake?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

You can see that it was just simply changed after the initial version was sent for manufacturing, the wording implies they wanted this change in all releases. This is not a regional difference.

@teguh.hofstee

Жыл бұрын

@@trashlord3214 Wyverians in Monster Hunter have 4 fingers and that was also released on PS2 in 2004, though admittedly a lot harder to see.

@martinbarrettgamer4333

Жыл бұрын

​@@LuminarLight being that I had watch your video since the beginning it's like ya got bad attitude., I ask you on your other video do you have social anxiety you never answer me , I ask you how do you get the early build to work on Jak and daxter you never said any thing you just pretty much ignore me that's all ya you tuber good for any way, soon as ya get big on you tube it's like ya start acting weird. but it's all good I won't make this a big rant, But I just feel like I just had to say something here .

It’s obvious he was a former yakuza who lost his pinky

The one thing I wanna know, is how Klaww came to be, because how did he get that armor and the giant claw

@speedyspeedboi3204

Жыл бұрын

In an unused cutscene the main villains, Gol and Maia, talk about letting Klaww take care of Jak and daxter in rock village while mentioning it being risky.. Klawws armor looks like an incomplete set of precursor armor to me. One could speculate that Klaww is a failed attempt of theirs to control Precursor technology for their ultimate goal to reshape the world. They might have fed a lurker a ton of dark eco to make it grow in size so it could use the armor. The lurker grew so much in strength that they lost control of him and they now use him as a berserker weapon instead. This is just me speculating though hehe :)

I can't believe no one noticed until now lmao

My guess would be that this change had something to do with 4 fingers being considered offensive in Japan. I seem to recall there was a pretty big push for Jak 1 in Japan, likely trying to recapture the success Crash Bandicoot enjoyed there.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

I am not familiar with Japanese culture, but indeed they wanted it to succeed in Japan. And it did.

@lucci_png

Жыл бұрын

they did something similar in Oddworlds Abe's Oddysee and Exodus

@Dante_Sparda_DMC

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight a possible reason I've read on for characters having to have 5 digits in Japan is because a Japanese mafia there is known to remove a finger from those who have wronged them. Characters like Rayman and Crash Bandicoot have had this happen to them in Rayman GBC and even recently in Crash 4.

Kid named lost finger:

@ImpastaBisnis

Жыл бұрын

Came to the comment section searching for this LOL

@Flesh_Wizard

Жыл бұрын

daxtuh

I don't know if it was mentioned before but in the Jak and Daxter Trilogy on PS3 Klaww do have 4 fingers (at least in the PAL version of the game).

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

The PS3 port team had access to all source code and assets. PS3 port PAL/NTSC are not different from each other. Technically, the Klaww with 3 fingers is the newest version of Klaww. So based on what you are saying, I think that they used an earlier version of Klaww than they should have used. You can observe this with many other things actually: *Palace Cable platform texture *Rock Village boulder texture *Jak II skull gem icon in main menu And more that I can not remember now... Thank you for telling me. I never checked this in PS3 version for some reason.

Speaking of Klaww it would be amazing if we could find a build with any data regarding the cut 2nd Klaww

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

The 2nd Klaww is the most cursed thing ever.

@ExplodingRaindeerPoo

Жыл бұрын

Where is there any info on the 2nd Klaww? Google comes up with nothing.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

@@ExplodingRaindeerPoo That makes sense. It is a cursed thing, as i said.

@Beanie_The_Thrower

Жыл бұрын

@@ExplodingRaindeerPoo You can see him next to snowy mountain in the diorama used in these ads kzread.info/dash/bejne/dommttd7ptyzfMo.html

This is off topic as hell, but did you design the font at the beginning to resemble the J&D logo font or did you find it online? If it’s the latter, what’s it called?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

I just used this: chriskirknielsen.com/fonts/ottselesque/

@themenacingsloth

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight Ah OK, thank you 👍🏾

Are they any different on Jak and daxter September 2001 build , If by chance you do have time , Do you mind sharing it to you tube ?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@martinbarrettgamer4333

Жыл бұрын

​@@LuminarLight I did watch the video, I'm pretty sure you miss under stand my question that I am asking , I am asking are they any more jak and daxter September 2001 build. If it's going to cause you to get frustrated than never mind. I'll keep on observing

I want to know, and this is Klaww-unrelated, is there any versions of PAL Jak 1 with Citadel Skip patched?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

They never patched Jak 1 in PAL regions.

@NotOrdinaryInGames

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight Never ever? Not even once? Oh well, at least it's not a "real" bug.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

Well.... The PAL release was made after they took a finger from Klaww. But no other "fixes" are present, as far as i know.

@NotOrdinaryInGames

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight Alrighty then. I will assume Australian release is identical.

Can you do a video that showcases the differences between all the versions?

@LuminarLight

9 ай бұрын

All the versions of what? And what differences exactly?

So which do you like more 2 or 3 claws?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

I am not sure. What I am wondering about is why was this change even made? Maybe EI preferred 3 fingers (2 claws).

@AG1k

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight yeah it is strange I prefer the 3 claws.

Hey I was wondering if you know about this glitch in jak 2? I stumbled upon a glitched/cut version of the mission “protect hideout from bombots” it featured 4 bombots, also had a on screen bombot sprite with a counter bellow it counting down from 4 for every bombot destroyed. My memory is a bit fuzzy sine this was about 2 years ago, I Still have the save file, unfortunately I saved after doing the mission in question. I went through several of the security gates several times before you were supposed to using the hover glitch, which I suspect had something to do with triggering it. Even weirder is it occurred before the normal “protect hideout from bombots” After playing the previously mentioned alternate version, the correct version of “protect hideout from bombots” was playable either immediately after, or after another mission or two. (I think you had to progress through 2 prior missions before reaching the normal version) I played the greatest hits version, on the last gen slim if that matters.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

Hello, it is enough if you post this once, please delete the other, it will get confusing. There is a bomb bot side mission, didn't you just play that?

@Dirty_Bear22

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight I played a slightly different version of the bombot mission. The total bots to destroy was 4. There was a bombot HUD icon displaying how many bots are remaining. The mission normally has 3 bombots to destroy and no HUD icon… A few missions add a HUD indicator for example: “Blow up strip mine eco wells” has a HUD icon displaying how many bombs are remaining. Unfortunately thus far I have no real presentable evidence. The bombot HUD icon should be an image somewhere in the game files, but my amateur attempt at looking around was ultimately fruitless. Sorry about double posting, didn’t know where it would be more relevant, my bad. I deleted the other comment.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

@@Dirty_Bear22 Yes, there is a side mission that requires you to destroy bomb bots. I am pretty sure you just triggered that.

@Dirty_Bear22

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight I’m aware that it’s a normally accessible mission. I’m trying to say I found a unique variant of the same mission, but can’t get it to trigger again.

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

@@Dirty_Bear22 It sounds impossible. If you happen to find it again, remember exact replication steps.

is NTSC Rev1 the Greatest Hits version?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

They are technically the same.

@Dirty_Bear22

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight Does Rev1 just stand for greatest hits?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

No. There was a revision of the original NTSC release. That is rev1.

I guess that version "rev 1" is the greatest hits version, am I right?

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

No, but they are the same.

@jak3489

Жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight well, that's enough for me to know that I will never find that 4-fingered Klaww, after all I have the greatest hits version