Jaguar XJC V12 restoration part 4. Rebuilding the engine, 7-litre Lister, Tom Lenthall..
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The Jaguar XJC V12 manual's engine needed rebuilding so it was sent off to Jaguar specialist and well known racer www.tomlenthall.co.uk/ for a complete rebuild. We also discuss tuning the Jaguar V12 and Lister 7-litre conversions..
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Tom is a true craftsman who takes pride in his work. What an amazing shop!
@henryviii6341
3 жыл бұрын
makes me proud to be 🇬🇧 🏴
@rodneyhull9764
3 жыл бұрын
seems more trustworthy than the charlatans Harry has used previously
@henryviii6341
3 жыл бұрын
@@rodneyhull9764 have already earmarked HIM for my Jag XJ8 and V12 Series III
@henryviii6341
3 жыл бұрын
@@rodneyhull9764 and NO bloody MASKS. evil and stupid which i thought Harry was intelligent enough to realise. was so disappointed to see HIM take the knee so to speak to the BS mask idiots. this one He seems better form. Old Jags are gorgeous. I love my XJ more than my Mrs but that’s another story !
@jorgegomez4608
3 жыл бұрын
Harry 7 liter you only live once
I'm so glad that there are people like Harry who are prepared to take on these restoration projects and see them through to completion irrespective of the challenges and cost.
@tonywillans7556
3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it.
@alanfleming8945
3 жыл бұрын
Mate you want to check out Marko from Rust 2 Rome - he is the man Harry wishes he was!
@stephen300o6
3 жыл бұрын
You mean rich?
@Boric78
3 жыл бұрын
@@stephen300o6 Rich and a petrol head. We should be thankful. In about 3-5 years someelse will benefit from this work. I know if the ad says ex Harry Metcalfe it means its been loved.
@guitargodbynameofbob
3 жыл бұрын
@@alanfleming8945 I just looked up Rust2Rome, WOW 👌🏻
I like the way Harry keeps comparing the cost to the Espada rebuild to convince himself this rebuild is a good financial decision 😂
@tonywillans7556
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Another 10k! That would've been 30 on the Lambo. Only problem is the capital L's stamped all over the engine block. Can't get away from where this 'anchor' of an engine came from.
@benjaminbenson8714
3 жыл бұрын
Ide still rather have the Jag.
@jbuckley2546
3 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny. Will easily double in value. Whether Harry see's that, or his kids......
Get that Red Lister for a full episode
@dipren443
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! Came to post this. Glad someone beat me to it. 👍
@cayboy420
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too Harry we need this! All the other Le Mans videos on youtube are rubbish.
Xjc restoration part 5.... Harry. . "having slept on it I've decided to go for the 7 litre lump" Tom.. "I've already ordered the bits" Just love this channel, great content 👌
@Boric78
3 жыл бұрын
LOL - it would not be Harry otherwise. "I am trying not to get carried away..." As faults go being a rubbish liar is not a bad one.
@davidepperson2376
3 жыл бұрын
lol
@chadderton
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing would surprise me with Harry....
@ololiver92
Жыл бұрын
Mrs. M's reaction 😂😅
Fascinating...another chap like Iain T who knows his onions.
@harrysgarage
3 жыл бұрын
I can see Tom could host his own KZread channel in the future, no problem..
@MrCapacitator
3 жыл бұрын
@@harrysgarage Definitely, I think this is the best video on your channel so far, I could listen to an knowledgeable person like that for hours. If I had a classic jag then I know where I would send it to for work. The engine will look brand new by the time its finished.
@Martin_in_Cheltenham
3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I had heard Tom was a good guy and his down to earth presentation style and incredible knowledge comes across in spades during the video.. thanks to everyone for putting this together.
@NJRD977
3 жыл бұрын
you know he has a lot of stories to tell - the little comments about other cars on the grid gives that away. Another fascinating engineer at work
@thomaschetwood6249
3 жыл бұрын
It's just brilliant to watch and listen to, ain't it? I'll probably never own an XJ12C or a Fulvia Zagato but Harry does what I would love to...
"I'm trying.....determined....fairly determined to keep it standard" Okay, H, looking forward to the 7-litre video! :p
@MasterMalrubius
3 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking that.
On the next episode: Jaguar XJC V12 engine gets upgraded to 7 litre supercharged 😁
@Ludofjn
3 жыл бұрын
We can hope.
@curvs4me
3 жыл бұрын
I'm all for it, it has enough low end torque. Dual hair dryers would be even better.
@richardharrold9736
3 жыл бұрын
He should certainly go at least 7-litre. You can go to 7920cc on a Jag block.
@edwardlewandowski
3 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't see this coming
@davidepperson2376
3 жыл бұрын
@@curvs4me Dual hair dryers - that's good!
That old oil cooler looks to have been through absolute war. Amazing a thing that looks like that could function!
Oh God it's hard to resist all the goodies when you are in a sweetshop like this. Great update.
Junior's REALLY going to love 'His' XJC now.......Key fight!
Please ask the owner of the Lister to get it for a video! I've seen so many photos of it in the 90´s... That would be great!
Repeat after me: "Just a rebuild. Don't want the 7-litre kit. Just a rebuild. Don't want the 7-litre kit."
@marcryvon
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephenswift9868
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that!
@eskamobob8662
3 жыл бұрын
Finding out how cheap a 7l is is making me want to find an xj12 to put one in tbh
@Dumdadum76
3 жыл бұрын
Nice mantra. But we all know which way this is going really.
@davidepperson2376
3 жыл бұрын
I get the part about keeping it a 6 liter, but for god's sake switch to efi.
I like how Harry doesn't cut corners on these classic cars
Got to take your hat off to Tom, what an amazing guy.
@fredericrike5974
3 жыл бұрын
Not only was the work top drawer, Tom was quick and on point on the cost to do these things. When you subtract the cost of rebuilding four forty year old carburettors and the repair/ rebuild of the dizzy/FI timing unit, things start looking more reasonable. Harry's wallet should begin preparing for an ambush! Tom slipped in that little zinger "maybe 16-17 thou as part of a rebuild", I think I heard him say. It will be awesome when done, whatever it is! FR
Fantastic work but the best thing about Harry is you know he’s going to enjoy them on the road and be taking them to meets/shows for others to enjoy
Good to see someone that knows exactly what they are doing, looks great 👌
When you get to sharp end of a build and the only way forward is the traditional "fuck it just do it " .
Your engine is definitely in good hands.
The production costs per minute of content must be pretty high at the moment Harry, with the restoration work going on on the XJC and Zagato. Worth every penny, loving every minute of both stories.
OMG Harry, a Jaguar Coupe restoration and a Lancia Fulvia Zagato restoration on top of it…. And both are having hidden surprises… This is a rather costly adventure but thanks for sharing this automotive adventure with us. Love every second of it, GREAT!
@LarsAgerbk
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Espada
@r.p.3192
3 жыл бұрын
@@LarsAgerbk Well I guess that money is spent… but yes, you’re right. Another big money eater…;-)
That Lister is beautiful. The aggressive restyling really suits the XJS silhouette
Can't wait for the next episode of "Harry drives my favourite Jag"
@tonywillans7556
3 жыл бұрын
Tagged: Harry drives a 7litre XJC he had restored.
Harry, I have watched all your videos and I love it that you cherish and do your best for all your cars. I live in the NE of Scotland and there is a place very near to me where the owner is the COMPLETE opposite to you. To name a few cars that are left outside to rot away, he has a Rolls Royce Silver Spirit, RR Silver Shadow, Rover P6, Original Porsche 911 with the whale tail, Capri 2.8 Injection, 2 x Triumph Dolomite Sprints, 2 x Jaguar XJS's, 3 x very old Jaguar XJ's and a lot more. He refuses to work on them, restore them, sell them, give them away and it is such a sad thing to see every day, you have no idea.
The depth of knowledge here is intense, all praise the gearhead auto specialist with dogged determination to do it right, for all types for all vintages, all over the world. Somewhere in Africa there's a workshop correctly straightening out Ford tractors, somewhere in Southeast Asia some old aficionado is an Elan expert, England has it all in volume, bravo! The gnawing goals of so called progress will kill off this breed of mechanically minded human and make everyone a slave to the undecipherable and unfixable so enjoy this while you can. This sort of work deserves a wing at the British Museum (perhaps it is there already).
@Juancheros
3 жыл бұрын
"...The gnawing goals of so called progress will kill off this breed of mechanically minded human and make everyone a slave to the undecipherable and unfixable so enjoy this while you can..." This statement needs to be put at the entrance of said wing of British museum. This breed of humans will be replaced by software hackers who shall enact said enslavement.
Hi harry . Thanks for taking the time and money to restore this car.
Such a joy to be part of the journey of this, so many would love to be either in your shoes or able to do the same themselves, others like me watch in awe and quiet amazement at the passion and ability to do something like this correctly and for the right end result. I bought a Rapide this week, partly based on your comments in your review back in 2014, and how if you had kids of the right age (size) it’s a lovely car to own and use. First ever v12 for me and had to scratch the itch, thank you..!
Quite a few of your recent videos seem to consist of you saying, "oh God, oh no" and sighing quite a lot. The joys of owning old cars.
The glorious Jaguar V12. One of my favorites in the garage. 👌🏽
@tonywillans7556
3 жыл бұрын
Only after a modern day rebuild. They were a dealers worst nightmare back in the day. How many weeks/days until they started leaking or not starting. BL and Lucas components were just substandard.
Not *just* a 7.0 Lister - it’s a LeMans with the raked rear screen and no buttresses. Lovely.
Harry, it's great to see all these garages doing so well. Not many dealers would know where to start.
@davidmg1925
3 жыл бұрын
I once saw a picture of an e type engine bay, the caption read "AA member ship futile". Can t recall which mag is was.
@tonywillans7556
3 жыл бұрын
Harry's doing his upmost to keep 'em busy and rolling in coin. Nice one Harry.
'This has happened before your ownership' I'm telling you Harry nearly shed a tear when he said that lol.
"Tom is well known for doing race engines, big bore conversions, injection conversions, allsorts of tweeks you can do on the Jaguar V12. I'm trying not to get carried away but he has the engine stripped over there" I love the way you choose a well known race builder then pop down to his sweet shop while the build is in full swing with the expectation of being able to keep a level head. I would have just been pointing and saying "I'll have one of them, two of those and those, two of those, one of them", etc.
Back in '84 I watched a pair of 7 litre Silkolene Jags win 1-2 in a sound thrashing of a pair of turbocharged 5 litre Benz, which finished a good half a lap behind the Jags. That was at the Sandown race track east of Melbourne, and my son, aged 5 at the time, still remembers the Jaguar hullabaloo. I suppose times like that stick in a kid's mind, but for me, it cemented my love for the v12, whereas he just loves Jaguars in general.
Great to see this engineering in Uk along with Iain tyrell
Tom Lenthall came across as a very impressive engineer and is doing a great job on your engine Harry . . . !!
For what it’s worth, I had my V12 rebuilt with fuel injection, new exhaust, etc etc. It’s now 6.1 litres and turning out 350 BHP with just under 550 nm of torque. I did send a photo to Hairpin to forward on to you. It suffered from sticky throttles mainly due to the cables but the design didn’t help. So have fitted electronic actuators, so we now have autoblip as well ! Work has been completed, I’ll be over in about 4 weeks to pick her up.
@jdmimportlogistics
Жыл бұрын
Which actuators/standalone did you use?
Always good to hear from someone that actually knows. Kudos to you Harry for letting Tom do the talking. When an expert is speaking - shut up and listen!
This will be an absolute dreamcar (which it was already in my opinion) Its fantastic and I love the episodes!
Tom I like the fact that you are happy to keep the engine fairly close to original size and spec, unless it is intended as a dedicated track car there’s probably not a lot of point in going to 7 litres...However I think the main beauty of an XJC is in the body and interior. Great series! Thanks and stay well 😊
@philtucker1224
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Harry, (I’m sure you must be a bit younger than Tom Cotter anyway 😊)
The more I see of this car the more I'm amazed it ran and that you used to hoon about it in. Bloody death trap!
A family friend had an XJC V12 when I was growing up, still have a soft spot for them now. Great to see enthusiasts like you keeping them on the road 👍👍
Great to see a Lister le'mans ,a mates dad got one new in the late 80's...it was like seeing Cindy Crawford in the co-op. he's still got it in a warehouse with about 7k miles on it (and a Walkie talkie mobile on the dash)...what a guy
Tom and his team keep my XK, XJS and L322 going. He is superb and the service he has given Harry Metcalfe is the same service he gives the likes of me. Very glad to see his expertise showcased in this excellent video.
Impressive man Tom, and he's just up the road from me! Looks like I found someone to look after my Jaguar-Landrover's.
Harry what a lovely man Tom is , lovely to hear him talk!!!!
I can really see part 5 been 7 litre engine upgrade!! Cracking series loving this and the lancia rebuilds
@williamwilliams8145
3 жыл бұрын
You can hear when he says he wants to keep it standard that he's trying to talk himself out of it.
@ryanforeman3650
3 жыл бұрын
@@williamwilliams8145 oh yes definitely, maybe if he wasn't rebuilding the lancia he'd have 100% gone for it
@MrGaryGG48
2 жыл бұрын
@@williamwilliams8145 That's funny. I hear Harry talking to us in his video but it sounds like he's using us as his "sounding board" to talk himself into what he really wants to do. I really enjoy Harry's channel. He's a wee bit older than the "Trendy is Cool" crowd and is just a down-to-earth guy that knows cars inside & out. I watch every one of his videos and I'm going back to gather this restoration collection from the beginning. I find time to watch them later.
I'm pleased someone as seasoned as Harry has the same reaction as me when a sensible job suddenly turns into one you have to talk to your wife about in order to finish.
@twoeyedbob
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not 100% sure either a Jaguar or Lamborghini v12 rebuild has ever come under the ‘sensible’ banner 😁
@russcattell955i
3 жыл бұрын
For 24 years I have been on a mission with my wife to go with "the best you can afford". As a long service soldier she was used to "well, if it's good enough for Govt work"
@marcryvon
3 жыл бұрын
@@russcattell955i 🤣🤣🤣
@marcryvon
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'm in that position right now, restoring my "new" old sail boat for the last two years. You know the "well, since we're in, why not upgrade this or/and that" syndrome. The wife going "Are you telling me that this #*&!&& boat of yours (!) won't be out of MY backyard anytime soon !??" 👹 Aaaaah, well, honey dear, aah, huum, maybe not this year... 🙄😰
@matthewgodwin3050
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcryvon I've had so many conversations like this, I've actually lost count. Top tip: when she starts asking difficult questions, politely suggest that we start counting up the cost of her shoe collection. Works every time.
As a petrol head, I store pieces of information in my head for decades without ever using them. One of them is, the Jaguar V12 is fine as long as you change the coolant every two years. I never really understood the full implication of this advice until I watched this video. Now it all makes perfect sense. To be honest, all cars should have all their fluids changes every two years regardless of mileage. One on the most interesting videos I have watched in a long time. Thanks Harry
Just so satisfying listening to these experienced guys from all the workshops visited
Got to love the way Harry cut him short on the injection upgrade, he could see the money jumping up
@rossilake218
3 жыл бұрын
Parts are not really expensive, (iMO) but when you multiply by 12. Here in, comes the problem. Lol
Can’t wait for an update video in a week where Harry bins off the concour and gets the 7litre kit 👍
So interesting to watch people like Tom over their shoulder and listen to them. Thanks Harry ! And don't fret about the costs. You can shoulder it anyway, you help a good workshop by paying them, and, by the way: the bills for this project will be way higher 5 years down the road, our central banks money policy will take care of that, thank you very much. But in the meantime, you will already have had so much fun with the restored car. And I don't wont to imagine the state it would have been in in 5 year's time, if you had not decided on getting it sorted out properly today. This special car is so much of a good thing, worth every big one spent on it, no worries. And yes, leave it as it is.
What brilliant workmanship, by such a knowledgeable craftsman who knows how to communicate with us mere mortals. Outstanding stuff, thanks Tom and thanks Harry great vid!👍👍👏👏👏🇬🇧
Project 8 is looking well 👌
I'm loving these engine and car restoration videos, Harry. You've introduced us to so many absolutely brilliant engineers, that with every working day, are keeping our cherished vehicles on the road. Brilliant! There's a whole mini series in 'bigging up' these guys and advertising their amazing skills!
Stripped loads of V12 engines in the 70's for the rear main seal turning and leaking oil , when i worked for a jaguar dealership, the engines were new so no problem in them coming apart, but i did a few later where the cylinder heads were a job to get off, used vinegar down the studs.
LOVE this XJC rebuild. The smaller displacement engine will ref faster and be more playful. You made the right call
Great video. Always nice to see old-school blokes working on Jaguar. Would be good to see the results of refinishing those cylinder heads and dealing with the corrosion.
When you go in this kind a shop, you have to be aware that, this was a trapp..!! You have the idea to just do what you have to do, and then you see this and that..., and, at the end you go with the best engine on earth, and you do not care about money...! Just your pleasure to the forthcoming sound of this beauty..!! And, by jove, you are god damn right..!!! Go ahead Harry... Thanks for sharing..
The people that work their magic on these cars are just fantastic.
@harrysgarage
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, which is all part the fun of doing these restoration projects
Wonderful video, I learned so much. I have an early XJ-S with that engine. It hasn’t ran in 7 years and hasn’t been driven in 21. I would be lying if I said Tom didn’t put a little fear in me!
Having had a V12 Jag, I was so lucky not to need to have gone through this, mine was immaculate and apart from flat batteries, it didn't miss a beat in the 20 years I owned. It only had 110,000km when I sold it last year
I don't understand half of this, but thoroughly enjoyed it anyway 🙂
Harry I think we need to go down the pub for a few pints. It will help you realise the genius of having the 7 litre conversion done with a pair of lairy heads to boot. Its great you keep finding gems like Tom.
Ah the bottomless pit of old vehicles. Great fun. Fantastic video Harry, great to see all the engine details too. Looks like det damage by the exhaust valves not corrosion. Weld reface with the seats out then new seats and recut is the only way. Definitely a sharp intake of breath moment!!! Good luck.
@besenwieslersepp1011
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bad cast near the exhaust valves, wich was under the surface when new. To weld this areas up, they have to grind down to really (!) solid material. That might show a further problem. The other corrosion on the heads could be cavitation as a result of wrong, to less, to old or no antifreeze at all.
@Juancheros
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it seems removing the seats before adding material is the only way. The key is finding someone who can do this properly.
For the first time Harry sounds slightly depressed as he realizes the bill is increasing....welcome to the world of the normal car guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ingvarhallstrom2306
3 жыл бұрын
When your "normal" is an Espada restoration? ;)
@richardsheil5289
3 жыл бұрын
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 don't think he's depressed at all. Plenty of cash. On the other hand I'm surprised how little real engineering Harry really knows.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardsheil5289 He's not a mechanic, that's for sure. But I'm also sure he's deliberately inquisitive as a stand in for the audience.
@stephenpage-murray7226
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardsheil5289 Why? He’s not a mechanic and neither are the majority of his audience..
@gbjl26
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardsheil5289 He's never so much as suggested that he is a mechanic, hes a successful journalist and a farmer and hes never implied any different
Replace replace replace. A leaf out of Jay Leno Garage book, nothing wrong with subtle modernisations rather than falling down the wormhole of chasing perfection from old fundamentally flawed parts due to being subject to the time they were engineered.
Thank you so much for doing the extra work involved in taking us along. If TV were like this my TV wouldn't have suffered an unscheduled rapid disassembly 21 years.
Please don't let Tom use the old wiring loom. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Get a new one!!!
Jewel-like quality level of craftsmanship. It should look great once they put it back in the engine bay. Can't wait to see that video.
For all the talk and detailed shots of the rebuild of your V12, whenever your Project 8 came into view I just could not take my eyes off it, the colour is mind blowing!
Wonderful…. Loved my 1991 TUSCANY BROZE XJS V12 , it was a convertible and she ran cool and strong . Loved her.
Harry: How is the motor? Mechanic: Well...do you sit comfortably?
Everyone on the channel wants you to go for the 7 n/a. we want to see you smile on your favorite road like you did when you got the suspension rekitted! Get us another side by side (by side) comparison around the same bend!
Another facinating video, Harry, and many thanks to Tom Lenthall for taking the time to explain everything so clearly. Looking forward to part 5.
I'm loving this Jag series - keep it up Harry!
OH....MY....GOD!!!!! That red Lister!!!! Who could want anything else?????? It’s.....BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍
An old, modified, rusted car that needs way more money spending on it than makes any sort of financial sense. Absolutely perfect!
I had an xjs from 1976, it was amazing, I will buy another one, I love your videos
Another brilliant video...so great to see people who really know their trade being given the time to talk about what they do - no soundbites, no hyperbole, no marketing speak...yes please.....ps..would love to know the difference in cost between a rebuild on a Lamborghini V12 and a Jaguar V12 (or maybe I wouldn't)..
One of your stand-out episodes among a library to be proud of! Pleased you resisted the allure to let it get out of control as it were. It will be a spectacular result no doubt, excited to see it next episode.
Looking forward to seeing the results, thank you for documenting these specialist workshops
Its so nice to see the experts at work,another arm and leg job
This dude has the gift of the gab alongside mechanical mastery. A pleasure.
It's wonderful to hear this from someone who knows his stuff so completely.
Youi can always tell those who know what they're talking about. Nice E type in the background too
Marvellous Harry it was better than good! The knowledge and skill of guys like Tom is mind boggling.
Great video, Harry. You are lucky to have such a knowledgeable guy as Tom working on your car. Very entertaining. Cheers
Both Harry and Tom referred to the 2-door Jaguars as a "coupe" - I always thought in the UK we called them a "coupé," with the American choice (of word) to describe 2-door cars being something we in the UK would use to describe something you kept chickens in....
Great video. Must get my fathers XJ-S booked in for a service as Tom looks very at ease with the complicated V12!
Tom has engineering excellence on another level....carefully and diligently lapping in the rope end seals with a special tapered tool, amazing attention to detail and very reassuring when the engine of your pride and joy is undergoing open heart surgery.
Hi Harry. It is so good to see that engineering is still alive and kicking in the UK! Well done Tom Lenthall.
Another great episode and happy to see that it seems you once again have the right people on the job Harry :)
Really great up date and some fab machines in that workshop!
Fantastic film, loved the conversation between you and Tom. Really looking forward to seeing the Jag finished and the size of the smile on your face !
Wonderful restoration series on a classic car. Harry really means restoration for his classic cars.
I've been building engines for over 50 years and I always learning new stuff. One thing I learned today was the rope seal bedding in tool. I've never seen or heard of one before! Now i'll have to fire up the lathe.
Amazingly the XJ6-C and the Mercedes 250 C designs always spoke to me and now both cars are simultaneously being restored by true professionals on separate KZread sites. I’m in Heaven. Years ago a friend of mine bought a new XJ6-C in green. His family owned a very large dealership in Southern California and they set about the task of disassembling the brand new car to apply a concours quality black paint job to it. The results were spectacular. He then has the beautiful steel chrome wheels and hubs changed out substituting true chrome knock off wire wheels in their place. The steel wheels sat in his office until I suggested that they might be sold. After inquiring at many dealers and Jaguar specialists in the area we got a whopping $200 apiece for all five of them. Today a NOS cloisonné center cap goes for that amount alone.
Outstanding video! Thanks Harry for talking to real experts like Tom. Makes it worth watching KZread.