Korean and Italian subtitles have now been added. Thank you for your patience ^^ KR: 한국어 자막 추가되었어요! ITA: Adesso sono disponibili anche i sottotitoli in italiano!

@user-sx1dz2qy7m

3 жыл бұрын

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Incredible smart vídeo : that mix of geopolítics and beauty industry.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

😁😁 thank you! It's a great summary of my educational background hahaha 😉

I absolutely love the blend of geopolitical influence upon the skincare industry. Your vids are so interesting. Odile. Thank you.

Thanks. Enjoyed this. I grew up in southeast asia. Japan was the forerunner in culture beauty and entertainment in the 80s and 90s in my region before it was gradually eclipsed in the 2000s by South Korea. The brands Shiseido Kose and Kanebo were regular fixtures in our luxury section in our malls. Then of course SKII came along. When Korean wave was just rising back in early to mid 2000s I was on a business trip to Korea and I asked my south Korean colleague about BB creams and what brand does she use. She replied I dont use local brands I only use Japanese! Surprise! That was 15 years ago. I can see KBeauty has indeed grown from strength to strength due to its innovative spirit and passion. Well done South Korea. Finally im also going into Korean skincare now 😁

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, can definitely relate! I still remember when the best sunscreens available in Europe were all from Japanese brands! It's incredible how quickly things changed!

@choux7746

3 жыл бұрын

I tried so many Korean dupes of SK-ii essence cause it was cheaper, but alas, IMO nothing compares to it.

@asthenamesuggests9513

3 жыл бұрын

@@choux7746 well, to be fair you can't really compare with their totally different price points, but for me personally, I like missha time revolution treatment essence better than skii (I've tried both). Skii feels good and do make my skin look better compared to before I used it, but Missha just blew my mind. I've been using missha for a year now and could not be happier.

@choux7746

3 жыл бұрын

@@asthenamesuggests9513 I wasn’t comparing their price point as a factor for which is better (although some people have) I merely stated I wanted to give it a try because it's easier on the pocket. ;(

Thank you for this! I have been writing a chapter on K-beauty for a book I'm contributing to. And growing up in SEA like some other commenters here, I also grew up with a great deal of Japanese makeup and skincare, although at home it was all French skincare as my mother is a French-trained aesthetician. However, when Korean skincare started to be distributed in SEA, I slowly felt a great difference. The 'ear on the ground' ethos of constantly pivoting and innovating was so refreshing. Especially since Japanese skincare for all the good things, were still hung up about increasingly outmoded ingredients such as widespread use of alcohol. Even now, I find myself avoiding a majority of Japanese lotions due to the consistently present alcohol content. I have grown to love things coming out of both industries and feel so enriched experiencing the popularity of both industries. More importantly, watching these industries now change the attitudes in Anglo-American beauty industries too. "Whitening" was always cast as culturally regressive, but suddenly every hyperpigmentation and melasma fighting ingredient, including the calls to abandon UV-based tanning altogether is deemed as the right thing to do.

I'm binging your videos cause they're so well researched and knowledgeable! Thanks Odile 💕

I love this video ! This is such an interesting topic that only few people talk about it !! I find it so unnecessary when I see posts or people comparing k/j - beauty , specially when you have amazing products from both sides.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

I know right! It feels absolutely unnecessary and preposterous 🙄 Thank you for your support!

Thank you Odile! Really appreciate this thoughtfully explained post! I’ve loved many gorgeous products from both countries. These two countries have a very long complex history together & it’s important to look at that imo 💕🌸!!!

OMG amazing info & video!!! 💖

I only recently found your content. Very well constructed, learned a lot.

저도 한국에 사는 한국인이지만 2000년대 초반까지는 일본산 화장품을 주로 썼던 기억이 있어요 품질면에서 한국산보다 더 낫다는 인식이 있었거든요 하지만 지금은 굳이 한국산을 써야겠다고 의도한건 아니지만 스킨케어 전 제품 모두를 한국산으로만 쓰고있네요 굳이 일본산 제품을 써야할 이유를 모르겠어서요

Another amazing video. Love the historical background intro, it really makes you understand the reasons behind these misconceptions. I can feel how much this topic was important to you from the analogy with the male politician :P !! Love the new look you have here too !! Keep going Odile

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 You got me there! I think it stems from the frustration of having to explain the same things over and over whenever these arguments are brought up in conversation. Thank you, you know how much your support means to me ❤️🙏

So interesting and good to know; thank you!

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure 😊

If you check the history, Shiseido is probably the oldest cosmetic company in Asia and was born about 40 to 50 years before the first Korean cosmetic company of the same scale. That says it all. Besides, if you know the women in both countries, you will see that there is a huge difference in beauty philosophies. I would say J-beauty is much much more organic than K-beauty.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

Жыл бұрын

This argument is already addressed in the video. It's not fair to compare the economic development of two countries, when one of these two countries actively hindered the economic development of the other.

Enlightening thank you.

I‘m so glad I found your channel!! Thank you so much for sharing such valuable information, definitely subscribed!

That was very informative and unbiased content; we really appreciate your work Odile. Will you also please do ASMR? Lovely voice and phenomenal accent :)

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words! 🙏

thank you for this subject ! i really enjoy and always wonder corean or japan beauty care is the best ! i think both of them xoxo

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️ Thank you! I agree that both of them are really valid and the products should be judged on a case by case basis!

This was so interesting! Every video of yours I learn something new. (:

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Very glad you're enjoying them! 🙏

Loved it ❤

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😎

Very interesting video, thank you for your content.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

AMAZING Video, in some many levels! And this was the 6 video watched in a role, absolutely in love with your Chanel and your huge care on your content… thanks a lot for so much! Learning and thinking very different after your help! Huge hug from Brazil ❤ dear Odile!

Great Video

Very interesting!

loved it🥰🥰😊

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ❤😍

wow! mindblowing! thank you! I was choosing where to go - South Korea or Japan for my first Asia visit. South Korea, here I come :)

Highly informative video. I respect both skincare methods and products. I have some skincare products fr both countries. I agree with you when you mentioned Korean skincare invests in research and new ingredients. It's good in a way. But I get overwhelmed sometimes when there are numerous release of new products when I just want the best haha

congrats on a spectacular video. wow. You definitely have tons of knowledge that is presented amazingly in this video. Thanks!

GREAT!

Thank you Odile for this very interesting video! I have never connected the dots between the political context and this silly K vs J Beauty war. at the end, I have some absolute favorite product both from Japan and Korea (and France by the way) and It is working just fine for my skin :) I would maybe add as a major difference between Japanese and Korean brands for a western customer like me : it can be very difficult to find English data for some Japanese product, which is usually not the case with Korean product.

Thank you for this video. (=w=)/ I use Hada Labo and MISSHA by years so there is an international friendship in my bathroom! These are my two fav brands matching my 44yo sensitive skin. I am just east-european woman who loves asian skincare.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

That's it! That's exactly what I wanted to say 👌 we can definitely enjoy products from both countries (from all countries really!) without making groundless generalisation about one or the other. I think these generalisations are end up hurting both J-Beauty and K-beauty on the long run because they encourage consumers to buy products without doing proper research. Thank you for your comment! 🤗

@SalomeaDragon

3 жыл бұрын

@Abc Defgh Morning: HAda Labo blue bottle lotion, Missha MISA Yei Hyun Emulsion. Sunscreen MISSHA safe block spf 50. Evening: Hada Labo red moist lotion, MISSHA Vita C ampoule, MISSHA Vita C cream.

지적수준이 굉장히 높으시네요 구어체에서 쉽게 볼 수 없는 용어들...ㅎㅎ 저도 외국어와 문화공부좀 해야겠어요 응원합니다!

Hi Odile, I love your videos and content. Can you make a video on sunscreen under make up? Can you give some recommendations ? thank you in advance

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🤗🤗 Can I ask you what kind of things are you struggling with? Is your sunscreen pilling under makeup?

@anadanaya

3 жыл бұрын

@@OdileMonodTheMonodist Yes, it creates skin buggers and my foundation creases on top. Your makeup looks so nice that I thought about asking you :)

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

You're too kind thank you ❤ It's hard to tell exactly why you might be experiencing pilling without fully knowing your skin's situation, however usually it happens for one of these reasons: - You might be over-hydrating your skin / using too many products so your skin is not absorbing all your skincare products properly before make-up. It's easy to recognise this case because your skincare would take more than 30 minutes to be absorbed by your skin. If this is your case, try to look at your current routine and reduce the amount of products. - Some of the skincare products you're using need a little more time to be absorbed (over 5 minutes, less than 15). This happens when you use products with a thick/ concentrated formula. If you think this might be your case, try to wait 15 minutes before applying sunscreen (and make-up) and see if the situation improves. - You might have a weakened / damaged skin barrier. You can recognise this case if your skin recently became more prone to irritation / redness or becomes dry really quickly. In this case you might want to look for products to rebalance your skin barrier (on my channel I have a video on probiotic skincare that might help). - You might be experiencing a keratin buildup (I personally get this a lot!), basically there are too many dead skin cells on the surface of your skin. You can recognise this case because your skin tends to look quite dull and lackluster. In this situation, it's a good idea to exfoliate more frequently. I personally use an exfoliating pad every other day after cleansing, many people swear by the Neogen pads but tbh I find them really overpriced for what they actually do and I prefer the Vitamin C pads from Goodal or the Hypoallergenic Cica Rescue pads from Dermatory. - Lastly, either your sunscreen or your foundation might be too heavy for your skin type. A good way to test this is to use a different sunscreen / foundation combination and see if you're still experiencing pilling. I hope this helps!

@anadanaya

3 жыл бұрын

@@OdileMonodTheMonodist Dear Odile, Thank you so much for such detailed answer. I think you might be right when you recommend exfoliation more often. I do not handle well AHA and BHA so i tend to use enzyme masks. I noticed that after exfoliation the make up looks better. But I also changed the BB cream I was using for a cushion foundation from History of Whoo and I feel it works better. Currently I am using Pyunkang Yul Essence toner, (serum changes but I use the Red serum or the snail serum over Vitamin C serum) (Maybe too many serum) and then the wrinkle snail cream. and the sunscreen from COSRX Aloe Vera one. Thanks to your videos and recommendations I ordered the Gisnasty cream from B of Jose, and the rice toner from Im from. I am so looking forward to receive this order ;) Please keep educating us on K beauty and Hanbang cosmetic medicine. I did not know how skin barrier was important and how hydration could be an anti ageing tool. Big hug from Germany

I understand what you were trying to communicate here and appreciate the unique but necessary angle you took here but still I wanted to know if all of it can be chalked up to marketing. Because more generally speaking, in my observation, this tried and tested, simple but mature and long term approach of Japan and the more fun / experimental , trendy approach of Korea seems to permeate in the culture in many regards in my own observation. So would you really say that the differences are only as far as marketing, aesthetics or anything that isn't related to the actual product? Not saying that one is objectively better than the other, but even if there are some differences in their target outcome, that could help in making an informed choice depending on what one wants from a product. I get that it'd vary depending on the company, their product line etc., but just more generally

😆but i love the cute packaging and im 40. Scouting for new makeup western brands dont suit my skin type never have. Also you have a real asmr voice lovely to listen to thankies

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I feel you! I turned 30 this year and I have an extensive collection of Kakao friends dolls 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Super informative as usual! Where I see this argument thrown a lot is in regards to sunscreens. Japanese sunscreens are viewed as more reliable than Korean ones. I am not aware if there are any differences for sunscreen regulations between the two.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate your words 🙇🙇 Sunscreens are a little tricky. Both Korea and Japan have similar regulations, but the thing is Japan used to be the main exporter of cosmetic titanium dioxide (which is the main uv filter used in mineral sunscreens) in the world so pretty much every beauty company had to buy the ingredient from Japan to make mineral sunscreens. Plus, there are some studies that show that Titanium Dioxide might be carcinogenic (nothing confirmed yet), so researchers came up with some better alternatives to the ingredient, but until last year Japan owned the trademark for all these alternatives so until 2019 other countries had to import titanium dioxide from them and they couldn't develop their own sunscreens using alternative ingredients, which is as ridiculous as it sounds 😩. "We have the best sunscreens in the world! But we own the major sources of the raw ingredients used in sunscreens and we are not letting anyone else develop alternative ingredients." 😂😂😂

Hi, Odile! I really appreciate this video of yours about the differences between J-Beauty & K-Beauty, but I sense based on the video and your comments that you are pro K-Beauty or lean towards K-Beauty more. It cannot be called a comparative video if you prefer one over the other. I've seen most of your videos too and they are almost all K-Beauty. To be fair, maybe you could do reviews of Japanese brands too.😊 I am Japanese and am knowledgeable about the rift between Japan and Korea, things that have happened decades and decades ago, and depending on whom you hear "historical facts" from, you will always get a different answer. Scandals are not the measure of how products should be dealt with. Let's just put it this way, Korean beauty has K-POP to thank for it's popularity. Globally, everyone has been sucked in on Korean food, Korean music, Korean dramas, etc..and this creates familiarity for the beauty consumer. Another thing, and I think this is the most important - for the longest time, Japan has never had English translations in their tubes, tubs, bottles, or whatever beauty product. Lately, they've been starting to label them a bit, but the majority is still in japanese characters. K-beauty has been very diligent with their english translations on labels, boxes, etc., so for Westerners, the English translation is a godsend. Let's not try and meddle with history, about Japan controlling Korea in the past. You are neither Korean or Japanese, so please respect that. Your expertise is on beauty and not on East Asian history. Besides, whether Korea admits it or not, they have always raised their bar because of the standards that Japanese beauty has already established. I'm sure it will not surprise you that professional makeup artists, hair stylists, etc. use a lot of J-Beauty on their clients. So, with that being said, i hope to see you review more Japanese products, not just stuff like SKII and the rest, but more products out there. It doesn't really take a professional to reveal differences. They are made in Asia. Period. And for that, it makes us Japanese very proud. I'm proud of the Koreans too and what they have achieved after the IMF. Asia is here to stay and although we welcome the world to try our products, we would also appreciate it if people outside of Asia avoid biases, because in truth, Japan and Korea do help each other, even in beauty. Where do you think Korea got inspiration for their gel-like consistency sunscreens? Their gel-milky toners? I'll leave it at that.😊😊😊

@user-wp2qn6yo1m

3 ай бұрын

I am 57 yr old patriotic China Chinese, but I appreciate your open-minded wisdom. I totally agree with you on "Asia". The world should have more people like you.

I've lived in Hong Kong for a long time and have been using Japanese and Korean products for many years. I'd say that overall, I prefer Japanese products. They never irritate my sensitive skin, I've never had a problem with a Japanese product. With Korean products, though, it's a hit and miss. A lot are quite heavily perfumed and I dislike that, also they love to add an essential oil or 2 to their products, like lavender oil. Basically, with Korean products I've had either some really good results or some terrible results that ended up in break outs or skin irritation. I absolutely love their artemisia products though, I really liked Missca Artemisia essence (the Missca first essence broke me out) and I loved Tony Moly Artemisia 2 layering cream. As for the Japanese products, I like Freeplus repair lotion and emulsion, Sana soy milk wrinkle lotion and emulsion and Maikohan UV gel, also Hada Labo premium products. I also love the Japanese film mascaras. It's a type of mascara that doesn't smudge the whole day but removes easily with water, you can easily pull it off your lashes.

@vitamindust1995

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with this comment so much, particularly the first part. I use both J-Beauty and K-Beauty products but I lean towards J-Beauty because at the end of the day, they've just been more effective for me whilst K-Beauty are a hit and miss. A lot complain about alcohol in Japanese products but for me, the essentials oils and fragrances in Korean products are worse.

@choux7746

3 жыл бұрын

Strongly agree! One of the things that got me into kbeauty is a brands marketing for fuss free and natural safe ingredients for sensitive skin but then I read through a plethora of ingredients then find so many fruity essential oils that would clog my pores and worst is citrus essential oil (which is a phototoxic)! 😞

@Ash2theB

2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that people say Frangrance was the number factor for them sticking to J-beauty. While the other camp, the main reason they stuck with K-beauty was the overuse of alcohol in J-beauty. Also Essential Oils are volatile due to the compounds found in them and the shelf life like lavender (UK loves it) & (Cold Press citrus oil is highly Photo toxic) Citrus: Bergamot and especially Orange/Lemon Peel (rind) which is really common and (Scientific Committee) were placed on restrictions. Manufactures and Chemist have reformulated citrus oils to get rid of the photosensitive compounds but they still have a shelf life and may cause irritation but it doesn't clog pores because it acts more like a exfoliant. I actual stuck with K-beauty because I actually got comedones from two of the J-beauty products (popular skin mask and skin mist) and photosensitivity from a popular Japanese SPFs because of the denature aclohol. I actually have really sensitive skin (exzema/dryness/hormonal ance) but thanks to K-beauty influencers, if I had any issue I knew what to do (it's usual mixing of ingredients or overuse of products or just plain allergic to an ingredient). I know their J-beauty influencers now but I think the main issue is language barriers still. However, at least we have Tina Tanaka now. I also started blogging to keep up with and helped me navitagete both markets.

Japan and Korea are different, so naturally they will target different aspects of consumer needs. More conservative and traditional marketing by more established japanese brands appeal to people 30 and up. Korean brands being newer, and largely popularized by K-Pop and K-drama, is marketed for foreign consumers for the "K-pop" look. That's it.

I enjoy J-beauty & K-beauty equally. I will NEVER buy any skincare products from China...never.

@user-gp1bt4vm3r

3 жыл бұрын

Well, no one follows the Chinese beauty style. I believe even Chinese people mostly use Korean products and a lot even like to copy the Korean makeup style as well.

@Ira-vv7bq

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed im scared to use skincare from them because sometimes its hard to find good stuff since theyre mostly secretive country

@chickeabiddy

3 жыл бұрын

There are J brands that manufacture their products in China though.. like Hada Labo

@susanzhu9416

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Chinese products are sketchy

@insolitasiempre8326

3 жыл бұрын

China has different standards therefore, I used to buy Korean products when I lived in China because I knew I could trust them. Korean shops were widely found there although I would also bring my own cosmetics in the suitcase most of the time

I've watched your latest video about K-beauty controversy. What do you think about the Myth 3 now? I'm curious about the regulation around cosmetics in Japan. I've heard the regulations are strict there.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

The process of sunscreen approval in Japan is almost identical to the Korean one, yes they don't have the Article 10 exemption, but that doesn't prevent incidents from happening. Japanese companies are just better at being hush-hush about it, so most consumers are not aware of the past controversies surrounding Japanese cosmetics. Just to mention the most recent ones: www.donga.com/en/article/all/20200108/1946420/1/Radioactive-materials-detected-in-Japanese-mascara-and-eyeliners www.cosmeticsdesign-asia.com/Article/2018/08/15/Kanebo-agrees-to-pay-more-damages-for-skin-whitening-lawsuit Plus, big ODMs manufacture products for different markets so many non-Korean cosmetics are actually manufactured by Korean ODMs but consumers don't know about it because in most countries, it's not required to disclose the original manufacturer of a product. Case in point: Cosmax is originally Korean but they have plants in several countries (www.cosmax.com.cn/en/introduce/group_cosmax.asp) and they make cosmetics also for Western brands. Likewise, Kolmar, the sunscreen ODM I mention in my latest video, is legally a Japanese-Korean joint venture (the Japanese side of the business is called 'Nihon Kolmar') and they make cosmetics (sunscreens included) for the Japanese market as well. To sum it up: 💩 happens in all countries, malicious companies are going to break the law or find legal workarounds in all countries, and the country of origin of a brand doesn't certify that their product was made by a manufacturer from that country, so the most important thing for consumers should be finding reliable brands / companies / manufacturers they can trust. Hope that answers your question!

Whenever I think of Jbeauty, glutathione comes to mind. It was a very popular whitening and brightening product that a lot of Jbeauty products have that became very popular here in Southeast Asia. And eventually, a lot of our own brands made their own glutathione products. But the idea that Jbeauty glutathione products are superior still stuck on people's minds.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

I remember those! When I was growing up, they were all the rage among Asian beauty fanatics for some reason 🙄

와 진짜 속이 다 시원하네. 영상 만들어 주셔서 감사합니다. Nothing but truths said in this video.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

감사합니다~~

J Beauty has been overall an underwhelming experience for me. It can’t touch K Beauty….ESPECIALLY since discovering History of Whoo last week at our local H Mart! Wow! I’ve never gotten quite the sensorial experience even from other more expensive luxury western skincare brands as I have from History of Whoo. At 56, I’m here for it! I bought the Cheongidan set (balancer, essence, emulsion, face, and eye cream). It makes my skin feel like velvet. I love K beauty in general and have been a convert to their toners/essences for 2 years now and I’ve enjoyed many brands. History of Whoo though is in a class by itself. Would love your specific History of Whoo recommendations for my 56yo menopausal skin? Also: one of my sets came with a small vial of ginseng oil I think? When should I use it in my routine? Love your channel!

OMG I love wasting my precious time in Odile's channel. ugh! Keep it going Odile!

I remember growing up and saw news of heavy metals found in Etude makeups 😅

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

11 күн бұрын

These things could never happen in utopian Japan right? edition.cnn.com/2013/07/24/world/asia/japan-skin-whitener-recall/index.html

Korean skincare is better in summer and japanese in winter But now i see japanese more like have watery products so both are good . I am sticking with 5 or 3 steps 😅 but then this i can't 😅

That's traditional and typical what japanese always have done.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

👀👀👀 yep, indeed. I wish people would just learn to recognise cultural propaganda when they see it.

@JulienArbor

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdileMonodTheMonodist Sadly, my country (USA) is one of the worst when it comes cultural propaganda and it has gotten considerably worse as a result of the passage of the Smith-Mundt Act that occurred towards the end of the Obama administration. Most people are unaware of this but it allowed for propaganda to be used by the U.S. government on U.S. citizens, which was previously illegal.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

2 жыл бұрын

Dokdo is a really sensitive subject in Korea, Japan keeps claiming the island is theirs despite multiple historical documents that show the area originally belonged to Korea. Standing up against imperialist bullies doesn't qualify as propaganda in my book 😅

If you are a Korea based artist of course you will say that j beauty is overrated

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

9 ай бұрын

Congrats, you have the comprehension skills of a 5 year old! 👏👏

I'm actually interested about the topic of J Beauty has this category of "quasi-drug", where it's cosmetic, but has a different regulation Does K-beauty and other asian country has that? Or any other part of the world? And how does quasi drug differs with a normal cosmetics? Is it just another marketing term? The product that I know is quasi drug is Melano CC serum from Rohto But knowing you specialised in K-Beauty, I hope I found someone who as thorough as you, but in J-Beauty version:")) I like both K and J beauty product, but as consumer, I just buy something more accessible or more affordable between the two:)) and it differs from product to product, so yeah

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

2 жыл бұрын

Yes their quasi-drug products are equivalent to Korean Functional cosmetics (they're briefly mentioned in this video when I talk about how marketing claims are regulated). In both countries, this category of products is really important because it identifies products with active properties that have to go through a lengthy pre-market approval process that also involves clinical tests meant to prove the truthfulness of the marketing claims. This process prevents beauty companies from making groundless claims to sell their products and it’s an important guarantee for consumers in both countries. Korea has an additional category of products, called "quasi-drug" but they're different from Japanese quasi-drug cosmetics, they're considered and regulated as drugs, only they're recognised as having some cosmetic properties so the pre-market approval process is a little simpler compared to straight-up drugs. Some good examples of the two categories are: - Cosmetics with anti-wrinkle claims > Functional cosmetics - Perfumed Hand Sanitizer > quasi-drug

@hanamiya8008

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdileMonodTheMonodist ah I see! It's interesting to know that both have term of quasi-drug but it's has a different meaning Thanks for the explanation, it makes me understand more on the marketing part in this video I would love to see more about functional cosmetics in the future!

So what Korean face creams are packed in a cute jar? This is what took the entire Korean beauty industry into the world. Cute packaging was something different, new and refreshing, something that hadn't been seen and exactly the difference from ordinary, boring packaging was the reason why people chose to try Korean products back then. We all are childish in some way and I still love that Tonymoly packaging. Sometimes we pay so much money for a glass jar or the name of the brand, but only thing that matters is results you get from the product.

Interesting! I never heard this distinction between J-Beauty and K-Beauty, but I have always preferred J-Beauty because K-Beauty puts fragrance in just about everything. In particular, J-Beauty sunscreens are usually fragrance free in my experience.

@monicali8569

2 жыл бұрын

Asian beauty products as well as euro beauty products pretty much all contain scent as traditionally that’s how the cultures prefers. Myself as well. American skincare is the only one that’s very much into fragrance free. At the same time they never feel very luxurious or soothing.

@jessicarowell227

2 жыл бұрын

@@monicali8569 Yes, I’ve noticed that! I’ve had much better luck finding fragrance-free Japanese skincare products as compared to Korean ones, though. I don’t mind fragrance; it’s my skin that sometimes dislikes it! Usually not right away, but after repeated use of a fragrances product my skin starts getting irritated. It doesn’t always happen, but it happens enough that I prefer to avoid it when possible!

@user-wp2qn6yo1m

3 ай бұрын

Strange. Fragrance? All my k products are fragrance free

More is more vs less is more. But both are good.

Japanese skincare products are not even popular here in our place. When you go to mall, every products has hangul or made in korea lol. It just recently japanese skincare products are booming here There products has even a less access such as products of SKII and IPSA. We need to order it from Hongkong or in its origin country Japan

You are more than a youtuber you are an investigator 😳😳

Is it true that KFDA had just heavily regulated the ingredients for their cosmetics since many times American FDA rejected kbeauty products?

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say so to be honest! It's true that in the past 10-15 years the Korean regulations became a lot stricter, but this was mainly in response to some high profile scandals related to the safety of cosmetic products in Korea. I briefly talked about it in my video on Cruelty-Free K-Beauty, but you can probably still find some articles online if you look up 'toxic korean beauty products' etc. After the scandals, consumer associations asked for a strong action from the government so the Korean FDA introduced some new requirements and criteria to meet these demands. By any means, they also introduced some international-friendly regulations to make the exportation process more agile, but I wouldn't say it was the driving force behind this process if it makes sense 😁.

What about C-beauty? Chinese traditional medicine is very similar to Korean TM. As I reside in China, I used the opportunity to randomly explore their brands, and the products I'm blown away by are super cheap, made by small brands. Like a lavender infused "scar repair touch up" cream. It is the only product ever to smooth my deep frown and forehead expression lines. They have their own major hi-tech brands too, hope you can review them in future.

@user-wp2qn6yo1m

3 ай бұрын

Really? I have never heard of C beauty. Will look out

Mmmm 🤔 llevo 8 años comprando k Beauty por que es más fácil conseguirlo pero gracias a este video comprare el japonés, tendré mi propia opinión.

Thank you for this video, for me I use a mix of US, european, Korean and japanese beauty. I find that for the same price range, K-beauty has a lot more options than J-Beauty, and some of them are definitely better than J-Beauty if I dig deep enough. The only thing I don't like about Korean is their hesitation to include alcohol in sunscreen, thus some Korean mineral sunscreen tend to be heavier and harder to apply evenly than Japanese counterpart, where there are some really light-weight sunscreen.

Because I am really just now getting into skincare in general and I also lived in a rural town without internet for most of my life, I’ve stepped into K beauty and J beauty in its current state. What’s interesting is because I didn’t have a prior opinion or experience with either during the surge of K beauty popularity in the west, my preconceptions are almost opposite of what you’ve stated. Here are my impressions of the two since I have only just learned about them: J beauty: established, dated, plain, marketed toward older women, sometimes cartoon characters are prominent with the theme of the packaging, way too many colorful words on the package that makes them seem less elegant, more like a tool. Ingredients work, but they don’t necessarily budge too much into innovation. K beauty: marketed to create a sensorial experience and a feeling of opulence and indulgence. Ampoules, toners, serums, masks feel all luxurious, like bringing the spa to your bathroom. Many ingredients are tried and true, but there is a lot of innovation and technology that goes into the delivery of ingredients and the efficacy of new ingredients. Lots of glass packaging, lots of soothing aromas, feeling encouraged to put 3 layers of an essence on. All very “emerging research” marketing. I have a serum that delivers cica in dissolving capsules- very cool. I feel like it’s more accessible to the western market now. I trust a product more if I know it originated in Korea (based on preconceptions alone). So I think with millennials and on the narrative has flipped.

6:06 I really don’t like if a company marketed their products with some “magical” ingredients. 7:32 I’ve tried some J-Beauty sheetmask before that have limited edition ingredients that are native from different prefecture. And.... this product seems more wacky than what they claimed K-beauty were 🙃. It’s more like a unique souvenir to bought home for your friends and family, not actual sheetmask that brings benefit to the skin. Sorry to say. 10:45 I really like J-Cosmetics mascara 😂😂

@blank-etude

3 жыл бұрын

If you're talking about Lululun's prefectural sheet masks I actually love the idea - would definitely buy them precisely as souvenirs (for myself mostly lol) and since I don't use sheet masks in my routine in general, their short-term use is perfect for me. But to also explain, Japan really loves making prefecture-based souvenirs (from what I experienced during the year I stayed there), and it's not specific to skincare at all. So yeah, it's marketing, but also very obvious marketing.

@rambutketiak

3 жыл бұрын

@@blank-etude yeah like I said it’s more like souvenirs for your family and friends back home

@rambutketiak

3 жыл бұрын

@@missplainjane3905 whether they’re elite or not it’s not the issue here (at least for me) because they sell it as skincare. The K-beauty brands also sell cheap sheet mask but I think they have more merits in it rather than that sheetmask.

@blank-etude

3 жыл бұрын

@@missplainjane3905 I haven't tried high-end ones so I can't speak for those but the drugstore ones I've tried are great and get the job done, and it was easy to find holy grail products among them. Canmake, Lululun, Shiseido's drugstore lines particularly Senka and Majolica Majorca, Bioré, and Ettusais, are some brands I've tried. I prefer them to the K-Beauty brands in general but I do have my K-Beauty faves and staples as well.

@blank-etude

3 жыл бұрын

@@missplainjane3905 the biggest difference I've noticed would be how a lot of Korean products like to include fragrance or different essential oils, compared to Japanese products. When it comes to makeup, I've also noticed that K-Beauty leans toward pink-toned formulas, while J-Beauty suits yellow-toned skin better.

After I started using History of Whoo, I couldn't use Cle de Peau anymore. CDP just felt like toys. Hanbang has been a real game changer for me and I've been sharing this with friends.

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

Жыл бұрын

I feel you! That's why I keep repeating History of Whoo is my favourite beauty brand, honestly nothing else compares for me!

세상에 저런 무레한 짓을 할줄이야 역겨워라 애초에 저런비교가 무레한거 아닌가?

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

네! 저도 공감해요! 서구에서는 늘 한국과 일본을 비교 선상에 두는 것에 꺼리낌이 없어요. 한일 역사의 배경을 뿌리 깊게 이해하지 못한 상태에서는 그러기 쉽거든요. 그래서 이 영상을 만든 이유도 이를 통해 서구매체들의 그런 시도들이 누군가를 불편하게 만들 수도 있다는 점을 서양인들이 이해하길 바라는 것이에요. 공감해주셔서 감사해요^^!

I love both Japanese and Korean Products but i Prefer Japanese products, I have been using Shiseido and Sk 2 and other japanese brands since i was in my 20’s. Everytime i meet new people, the first thing they notice is my skin especially my face, great skin is in my genes but without the help of these products, i wont maintain my flawless, youthful and porcelain skin. The korean product im currently using is “ Im from” honey serum, i love it, now that im not getting younger, i prefer skin care products that will prevent fine lines and wrinkles so far until now, im wrinkle free 😄

I love k beauty

Can you please make a video bout " Some Asians have double eyelids since birth." this topic please..? Many Westerns think Asians don't have Double eyelid...

Whatever you say I still go for J-Beauty products. I have trust issues now on K-Beauty products because of their sunscreen scandal

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

2 жыл бұрын

There have been plenty of worse "scandals" in Japanese beauty (just to mention one www.cosmeticsbusiness.com/news/article_page/17000_consumers_accept_Kanebo_pay-outs_after_vitiligo_symptoms/131265), the reason people outside of Japan hardly ever hear about it is that Japanese companies are very good at keeping things hush hush 😊

Haha funny intro

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

I love a cheeky joke 😄

J-Beauty Marketers are going to find a way to use the sunscreen scandal for their goals. Thanks to you we have balanced background knowledge.

The great awakening do not let beauty industry behind. So much lies and manipulation by colonialist mentality. Thanks Odile.❤

한국말도 할줄 아세요? 혹시 혼혈이신가요?

한국 화장품의 품질이 예전에 비해 좋아진 것은 맞다. 하지만 최근의 한국 화장품은 ewg 등급에만 지나치게 의존하는 현상이 있어 걱정스럽다. 화장품이란 ewg 등급이 전부가 아닌데, 소비자들이 맹목적으로 믿고 있어서 제조회사 연구원 화학자들이 이 현상에 대해 고충을 토로한다. 이로인해 오히려 화장품의 품질이 저하될 수 있다는 우려도 나온다. 왜냐하면 화장품 이라는것이 단지 화장품 안에 ewg 그린 등급에 해당되는것 성분만 넣었다고 해서 무조건 좋은 화장품인 것은 아니기 때문이다. 그리고 얼마전 자외선차단제의 경우 차단지수가 조작되어 거짓인 제품이 많아 문제가 되었다. 이 문제는 브랜드사 혼자만의 문제가 아니라 한국 화장품법, 임상시험센터, 제조회사, 판매업자 모두와 긴밀히 엮여 있어 쉽게 해결하기도 어렵고, 다시 조작될 확률이 높은 문제이다. 지금 원래라면 올해 여름을 겨냥해서 한창 자외선차단제 신제품이 쏟아질 시즌인데, 이 문제 때문에 올해는 자외선차단제가 거의 출시되지 않고 있다. 그리고 메이크업을 전문으로 하는 메이크업아티스트 같은 사람들은 여전히 색조화장품의 품질은 일본것이 좋다고 인정한다. 한국 화장품의 품질이 발전하는 동안에 다른 나라 역시 쉬지않고 화장품 품질이 계속 발전 했기 때문이다. 나는 한국인이고 한국화장품이 더 발전하기를 바라지만, 요즘 한국 화장품계가 좋지않은 모습을 보이고 있어서 염려스럽다.

you have an old accent

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

OK?

@Lily-gz3ip

3 жыл бұрын

@@OdileMonodTheMonodist sounds like a princess from the old interviews 🐥

@OdileMonodTheMonodist

3 жыл бұрын

🤣 thank you, that's very nice of you!

In my opinion, j-beauty is a little overpriced

@wewenttomcdonald

7 ай бұрын

Fax

Lol. kbeauty exports world 3rd while jbeauty only 5nd.

It seems to me that South Korea has eclipsed Japan in cars, appliances (large and small) and now, skincare, too!!

I live in Japan and have never found Japanese skincare that works for me. There are just so many issues with their skincare and skincare beliefs. I have acne prone skin and they suggest products to me with "high moisturizing power" (which would make me break out more), hardly any acids/actives and also EXTREMELY high alcohol or perfuming ingredients which irritate my skin even more. They seem to think acne is just "red spots" and I am always recommended "brightening" products, when really most westerners have hormonal acne with deep painful cysts and need strong ingredients like salicylic acid, benzoyl peroxide and adapalene (all of which you can only get through dermatologist prescription here). Korean beauty just always has a much more advanced blend of ingredients for most of their stuff..Japanese products have outdated ingredients and feel more like something my grandma would use.